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Full drive using the Comma Three running Openpilot 0.8.8 on Shane's SA-master (See note) custom fork 

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I have had some requests for a full drive. This drive is from the area where I work to just before getting home. I am running a custom fork on the Comma Three found at: github.com/ssh... - the SA-master branch. This fork has the following enhancements that I use plus others not listed:
- No disengage when pressing the gas pedal
- User selectable following distances
- Lane change when using the turn signal over a certain speed without requiring a tug on the wheel.
The car is a 2018 Toyota Prius Prime Advanced
IMPORTANT NOTE: In this video, I am referencing a specific branch, SA-master, in Shane's Openpilot fork. While that was the most current when this video was created, it may not be the best branch in the future. Please make sure you check Comma's official Discord, custom-forks channel for the latest information.

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Комментарии : 83   
@daves1646
@daves1646 2 года назад
Thanks for the in-depth look at what the Comma handles!!
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
Check out my more recent videos on it. It has improved greatly!
@michaelm9621
@michaelm9621 2 года назад
So the Comma 3 will change lanes just by turning the turn signal on. Way cool I didn't know that. So much to learn.
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
Only on a custom fork. On Stoch OpenPilot, you turn on the turn signal then have to tug the steering wheel to initiate the lane change.
@petebuka
@petebuka 3 года назад
Thanks for the Video... My C3 comes tomorrow. Have the 2021Prime. Could you please do a tutorial from start to finish how to load Shanes Fork?
@Hopelessdrop86
@Hopelessdrop86 3 года назад
I only have the C2, but it should be the same on the C3. During the initial boot up it will ask you if you want to install dashcam or custom software. Select custom software. In the next step Comma provides a web address to type into your C3 or C2 to install stock openpilot. Instead of using their address type in smiskol.com/fork/sshane/SA-master if you want to install Shane's fork running on 0.8.8. Hit next and follow the on screen instructions. Currently both C2 and C3 run the same software, but that could change in the future.
@larryboldt4762
@larryboldt4762 3 года назад
What if we already have stock software installed on the C2? How do we install Shane's fork?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 3 года назад
Congrats!
@FlipSRT4
@FlipSRT4 3 года назад
@@larryboldt4762 he suggested you do a factory reset and then just type in shanes link instead of the factory comma link
@Maginnes2010
@Maginnes2010 2 года назад
Yes yes please do a video on how to do…
@-Above-Average-
@-Above-Average- 3 года назад
Thank you for such a great video. Could you please post a video to show how to install Shane's fork on C3? I am afraid I'll make a mistake or anything of that nature.
@BardCanning
@BardCanning 3 года назад
Great video! The lane changes are real slick and responsive. You bring up some great points about follow distance. I would love to see the eventual metrics that comma might be able to gather about the safety effects of all of these different possible settings. Wouldn't it be interesting in the future to see the net accident results from millions of miles driven with different follow distance settings? It could answer if it's safer to "fit in" more with the traffic? Or is it safer to go "against the flow" and result in more aggressive drivers overtaking you? But then, I guess that wouldn't take into consideration if a setting has increased the risk of other drivers getting annoyed and then getting into an accident with another car? The cause and effect is a complicated question. I'll bet that the "perfect" driving profile is something that we could never predict until the accident data comes in.
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 3 года назад
Thanks for the comments!
@timetravellergec2043
@timetravellergec2043 3 года назад
The follow distance is 2 seconds by law in my country. 1st :safety distance should be measured in sec not in meters! As speed increase the meter/sec increase so keeping same safety distance will reduce the time safety relatively at high speed! 2nd: the 2 sec rules is the safety margin for untrained drivers : 1 sec for brain to realize you need to brake and another one to for your brain to ask your muscle move and do the action of braking. Note for race/trained drivers that reaction time is easily cut by half! So following the 2 secs rule should be OK on most of time. It also depend on how agressive is openpilot.
@easternpa2
@easternpa2 3 года назад
Thank you for posting, this is great. I thought Shane's fork restored the 5 MPH increments to the set speed when you hold the RES/SET on the cruise stalk. I was hoping that would be the end of furiously flicking the stalk.
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 3 года назад
On my 2018 Prime, it never had hold for 5mph that I'm aware of. If I hold the stalk, it only increments by one.
@easternpa2
@easternpa2 3 года назад
@@YetNotDead not with OP. That's been an ongoing issue in the community. If you unplug the three to return to stock, try holding the stalk with the ACC set. It should change by 5 MPH per second not 1. Edit: I just remembered that you have your dsu disconnected. The last Prius Prime I was in with op still had the dsu connected. Without the dsu I have no idea how your ACC will behave without the three in the path.
@tsengzhou3126
@tsengzhou3126 2 года назад
very nice video 📸
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
Thank you for your comment!
@martinmoore6825
@martinmoore6825 2 года назад
If I install Shane’s fork, will I still get the automatic updates from openpilot every few months?
@martinmoore6825
@martinmoore6825 2 года назад
Yes you will
@charlespotokar2375
@charlespotokar2375 11 месяцев назад
I have a 2018 Prius as well. I’m considering returning it because it has some pretty bad ping-ponging. Did you ever notice any with yours?
@gonzomuppet9255
@gonzomuppet9255 2 года назад
My 2018 puris did come with the lane tracing and the LDA has never worked hardly at all took it to the dealer they said they are all like that
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
The 2022 I have now, kinda works but ping-pongs in land, needs the steering wheel tugged every 15-20 seconds, and can't really handle most curves.
@appleormac
@appleormac Год назад
Are you talking about stock LDA or OpenPilot LDA?
@joewilkinson5866
@joewilkinson5866 2 года назад
Great video! Can you share with me how you set your camera up? What hardware are you using. I want to recored a driving video, but haven't figured out the camera stuff yet. Yours looks great!
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
Thank you for the feedback! I'm using a Sony Action Cam : Sony FDRX3000 Mount: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XIB6SK4
@sasukesuite1
@sasukesuite1 3 года назад
I feel like at 2:15 it could have done that right turn with the long model on
@mdinatale12
@mdinatale12 2 года назад
Anyone kno how this will work on a 2019 Insight?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
Fully supported! See: comma.ai/vehicles
@BonanzaPilot
@BonanzaPilot 3 года назад
I just setup the Comma 3 in our 2018Prius Prime. Waiting for the mount to dry! I got the mount level and as high up as I could get it and still be able to remove the unit, but I accidently installed it about an inch left of center. Hopefully that isn't a big deal.
@BonanzaPilot
@BonanzaPilot 3 года назад
Well I got this thing and was kinda disappointed it wasn't working at all below about 25mph, and stop and go was a total no go. The default ACC system does that. SOOO I unplugged the DSU and it works great. Is there a way to get the stock ACC to work below 25mph like it does without the comma installed?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 3 года назад
Not that I'm aware of.
@fluffden
@fluffden 3 года назад
@@BonanzaPilot in the discord they talk about like a sdsu on the hybrid prius to get the stop n go, maybe it the same for prime?
@suprastar5896
@suprastar5896 2 года назад
Do you have your Comma 2 still? Interested in buying it for my Prime!
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
I sold it a while ago.
@TheChadWork2001
@TheChadWork2001 2 года назад
Can you explain for non car and program nerds what is going on here? What is comma? What is a discord? All i know is you are using some open source software to drive your car. It's there a beginner dummy proof explanation of what you are using, how to configure it, etc?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
Hi! At this time, I generally do not recommend this for non-technical people. In a nutshell, The Comma Two and Comma Three are small computing devices that are capable of running OpenPilot software. The devices have a built in interface for communicating with the CAN BUS in a car (the car's internal communications network) utilizing a car harness that is tailored to specific models of cars.
@FrancisRenolds
@FrancisRenolds Год назад
Are you using gas and break pedals?
@masaya1203
@masaya1203 3 года назад
Thanks for such a great video. I installed Shane's fork on C2. It's great, but lane changes don't work automatically. Is there a difference depending on the model?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
You have to change one of the parameters using op_edit.py to enable lane change on turn signal. github.com/sshane/openpilot#customize-this-fork-opedit
@masaya1203
@masaya1203 2 года назад
Thank you very much. Thank you very much for telling me I'm an amateur so I don't know how to do it. Can you tell me the specific procedure if it can be done easily? Thank you.
@jimbob4456
@jimbob4456 3 года назад
Would that fork work on a 2021 Toyota Highlander?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 3 года назад
If Openpilot stock works the yes, Shane's fork would also work.
@rj8u
@rj8u 3 года назад
I'm a newbie with this system. Once You bought the hardware and the wiring for your specific car can this be install in your car and start working or do you need to download a program for the system to work? Thanks.
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 3 года назад
When installing, if you want to run Openpilot on the device, you enter a URL on the device and it downloads and installs Openpilot.
@dropcapapp
@dropcapapp 2 года назад
Have you noticed a significant difference between the comma 2 and comma 3? I know that the comma 3 has a wider FOV and better monitoring. But the driving experience, would you say it's similar to the 2 or is the 3 different?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
There currently isn't a big difference. Where it will make a huge difference is when stoplight/stop sigh detection comes later this year.
@iVarmint
@iVarmint 3 года назад
Will comma block Shane's SA-master fork from their servers? And just what are we getting from the servers anyway?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 3 года назад
Comma is not blocking Shane's fork. He is careful to not violate Comma's safety rules which are basically don't modify the driver monitoring and don't override the torque limits. The servers collect the driving videos, CAN bus data, and the driver monitor camera, but only if you opt-in to the DM being uploaded.
@jeffbarnum
@jeffbarnum 2 года назад
I just got my comma 3 for my 17 Prius Prime. I notice when I engage open pilot on the fwy it tends to ping pong during the drive. Have you experienced this? If so, any recommendations on a fix?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
I haven't had ping pong in quite a long time. Are you on the main Openpilot distribution or are you using a fork? Did you turn on "laneless" if so, try turning it off.
@appleormac
@appleormac Год назад
@@YetNotDeaddo you normally use laneless or not?
@hizokuto
@hizokuto 3 года назад
Did you have to SSH into your C3 for the settings you mention in the description, or were those available by default? Also, I have a Toyota 2018 Prius Prime too, and I thought the DSU had to be intercepted or unplugged to enable longitude. I'm waiting for a cSDSU/SDSU to ship from China.
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
If you want OP to handle longitude (gas/brake), you either need an SDSU or to disconnect the DSU (Not recommended as disconnecting the DSU disables the car's automatic emergency braking). Now, I run with mine disconnected understanding and accepting the risk. Here is the section of the docs on Shane's fork discussing what settings you change by SSHing into the C2/C3 and use op_edit.py. github.com/sshane/openpilot#customize-this-fork-opedit
@dmil8269
@dmil8269 3 года назад
What is the longest trip you have used this on? Have you ever had any endurance problems?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 3 года назад
I did a 7,100 me cross country trip with a comma two and had zero issues. It made the trip so enjoyable.
@aaronelshwan9197
@aaronelshwan9197 3 года назад
@@YetNotDead since owning both 2 and 3, is it worth extra features to upgrade to the 3? I have a 17 prime adv and deciding which one to buy. Thank you for posting this.
@artkrot
@artkrot 2 года назад
Do you still use factory buttons to start acc and autopilot, or you need reach to comma screen?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
You use the factory (car) controls.
@mc333777
@mc333777 2 года назад
Just a newbie on this thing and planning buy Comma3. My question is: If I installed the stock OP on Comma3, and decided to try a custom fork from the community, Do I need to uninstall the stock OP first?. And how do you install the new fork, do you need a PC or Mac to do it? THANKS
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
It depends, if you don't want to use a PC, the you'll need to do a factory reset then you can install a fork. Do a search for "openpilot fork installer"
@mc333777
@mc333777 2 года назад
@@YetNotDead Good to know. I am gathering & keeping these infos. thanks
@kenholle1628
@kenholle1628 3 года назад
Where does one purchase this?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 3 года назад
comma.ai
@larryboldt4762
@larryboldt4762 3 года назад
I have a 2021 toyota highlander, It would take every one of those curves without engaging the warning alert. So the newer toyotas have better turning torque?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 3 года назад
Correct, TSS2 Toyota cars have more available steering torque.
@jimbob4456
@jimbob4456 3 года назад
I have a 2021 Highlander Hybrid and am seriously thinking of getting a Comma 3. The stock lane centering system is not horrible, but it has its issues. What has your experience been with your Highlander? Are you running the stock Openpilot?
@larryboldt483
@larryboldt483 2 года назад
@@jimbob4456 Yes, I'm running stock, it is amazing. I just purchased the C3 so I'm looking forward to the improvements over the C2. If you do much driving, you are gonna love this thing.
@garystinten9339
@garystinten9339 3 года назад
Is there going to be a kit designed for Kia Rio 2013?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
It is not currently supported. It would likely be up to the "community" to develop support for it.
@CBeckMayberry
@CBeckMayberry 3 года назад
Ignorant question: is this fork good for other vehicles or just the Prius?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 3 года назад
As far as I know, it works well in other cars.
@immanueljustin5122
@immanueljustin5122 2 года назад
Does it work on 2018 Honda Accord?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
Go to comma.ai. they have a page where you can put in your vehicle to see if it is compatible.
@fayjaimike
@fayjaimike 2 года назад
Does it still merge if you are getting a blind spot warning? (Merge into another car)
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
Currently it does not utilize the blind-spot sensors. I could in the future.
@brianginn1993
@brianginn1993 3 года назад
Does Shane’s do auto updates?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 3 года назад
It can. Whether it auto updates or prompts is a setting in op_edit. Check Shane's readme for more information.
@joshuareynolds6963
@joshuareynolds6963 2 года назад
Does it disengage on brake?
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
Yes. That is a hard safety requirement in Openpilot
@ianpobanz12
@ianpobanz12 2 года назад
Hey I just ordered mine i’m looking for forks I have no idea where to find them or where to download them or at links etc. do you have any idea on that stuff?? Maybe do a video on how? I see you got a link in your description but I don’t know how do use that to install it on mine comma??
@YetNotDead
@YetNotDead 2 года назад
github.com/commaai/openpilot/wiki/Forks
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