Full Overview of the Native Instruments Maschine+ - The Ultimate Standalone Groovebox?

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» 0:43 What is New with the Maschine+?
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» 6:30 Taking a Deeper Look at the Plug-ins
» 8:40 Let's Take a Look at the Drums and Start Building a Track!
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@thehomienicked8208 Год назад

My current workflow involves sketching out the basic ideas for my track using my Maschine Mk3 (basically building loops) and then dragging over the audio versions of those ideas as stems into Ableton to build the track, record some live bass and guitar (I prefer recording in Ableton) where appropriate and apply some finishing touches. It works well for me and a big part of what makes it so effective is that a lot of my software instruments and effects work right in the Maschine software as they would any other DAW. Sadly, you can't do this with a lot of the best stuff (even many of NI's own plug-ins) with the Maschine+ when it's in stand-alone mode. This means that the idea of being able to kick back and do that kind of work without being attached to a computer is just a fantasy, at least for me. I can see how for someone who is just getting into the Maschine ecosystem/workflow and wants a fancier enclosure and the ability to at least build their drum beats and do a few other things away from the computer this product could be a good one, but it's not for me. If the Maschine+ were really capable of running all (or at least most) of Native Instrument's own VSTs and a decent selection of the NKS-compatible ones by other manufacturers (like Arturia and iZotope's plug-ins, for example) in stand-alone mode without needing to be tethered to a computer then it would be an absolutely incredible piece of kit. As it stands though it just doesn't run enough of the things that I would like it to when not plugged into the computer to justify the purchase price for me. Maybe the next version of the Maschine+ will deliver on more of the idea's potential and if so then I may well be a buyer. I'd even be prepared to invest at a higher price point if it meant basically getting a decent laptop-level of performance out of the device in terms of what it can run and how well it can run it.

@luigicodeluppi8888 Год назад

hi.I have M + it happens to me that it is in standalone aia in vontroller as soon as I connect it to the pc from the audio outputs a very annoying hiss / noise comes out from the headphone output nothing, perfect audio. I tried them all and followed all the advice of native but nothing. can you help me? thank you. louis

@christdolphin69 2 года назад

that kendrick flow was hot fire

@boabglen 13 дней назад

Does it to be connected to a laptop to use live? What is the maschine version that doesn't need a laptop?

@Madmohawkfilms Год назад

Asked NI this morning if Kontakt 7 going to get integrated into the Maschine plus and rep told me that it’s been deprioritized because optimized for mouse and keyboard. Sad that I’ll have to keep my $1300 plus tax in pocket and continue use my laptop as a Sound Module with Komplete 13(14 soon)

@whoadog8725 2 года назад

You’ve made the spiritual successor to the infamous Beat Thang beat. Congrats…

@RobotSnake Год назад

So the Hardware is sold as fuck but the firmware will always suck?

@chris_seitz 2 года назад

All of your VSTs? Not really, right? Still not possible to run a good piano VST like Alicia’s Keys or Noir?

@steventaylor3789 Год назад

Context: I’ve had an MPC Live, a Force, and now have a Maschine and can’t really understand the comments regarding it being underpowered but I guess that it’s subjective. Is it to do with claims or expectation that it can run the same amount of stuff as a Maschine plugged into a computer?Having come from an MPC/Force background I suppose I just don’t expect it to do that. NI are not the same size company as a laptop maker so they are never going to be able to make something with the same power for anything like the same price although I don’t think it’s over priced. It’s the same price as the Force in the UK and offers oodles for the money. There are limitations to MPC/Force e.g. 8 virtual instrument tracks but they don’t seem to get the same stick. I also see a lot of false maths in relation to both platforms where a single instrument is loaded and the CPU jumps to 20% ergo it’s underpowered. On both platforms adding another instrument seems to hardly impact it (instrument not lots of fx as well). So those figures can be misleading. If I didn’t have a Maschine Plus I probably wouldn’t buy one now due to the constant complaints of poor CPU performance but I wonder if it’s simply the case that a minority are the most vocal. I’m using mine without issue as a standalone and it’s the centre of my studio. That is unless I press a button and my DAW is because y’know other VSTs and full DAW functionality. Anyway, I may have a different opinion to anyone reading this but it just seems right for me to say something positive about the Plus since all I hear is negativity which I don’t think is representative. Disclaimer: I came to Plus ownership in the last six months so it’s likely that it’s improved since it’s release much like the Force did 😅

@gretareinarsson7461 2 года назад

Would it work well together with the S88?

@djjuno106 2 года назад

It integrates perfectly.,there designed too work with komplete kontrol eco system.

@gretareinarsson7461 2 года назад

@@djjuno106 I was thinking of buying the two together.

@haus05 3 месяца назад

still cant decide between the maschine + and the MPC One+ ... Canadian im looking at like 1649.00 CAD vs the MPC One+ at 999.00 CAD... I like the workflow and ease of use of the maschine + but the price is giraffe balls (HIGH)

@bryantwalley 2 года назад

I read ultimate standalone and thought you was doing a Force video.

@dannydecanhas3743 2 года назад

Agreed. Ultimate standalone shouldn't go with anything that's not Akai. And from what I've been told... The bugs and crashes make it basically useless in standalone mode. You have to have it connected to run somewhat smooth. Better off buying the Maschine mk3 if that's the case. Half the price

@Sypher474 Год назад

@@dannydecanhas3743 Maschine+ performance issues are the most ridiculously overblown non-issue I've ever encountered. I purposely avoided Maschine for a long time, but I'd tried nearly every other bit of hardware groovebox out there, so I recently gave up and got a +. Since then, I've switched to using it almost exclusively as the hub for all my work, completely standalone, and I've had a grand total of three crashes in around 4 months. All of them were before the most recent firmware update, and before I upgraded the included SD card. None since, and they added an autosave/recovery thing anyway, so even if it does, you won't lose more than a couple minutes work. CPU performance is absolutely fine. If you build a track from scratch, and aren't lazily using bundled 'Groups' that have a million needless effects on every single sound, there are never issues. If you really push it on purpose to see where it breaks, you can get it to clip, but not in any 'real world' scenario I've encountered.

@Tyler_D444 2 года назад

How good is it compare to MPC One ?

@djjuno106 2 года назад

They’re different..I have both and they both offer something the other doesn’t..too be honest I prefer the workflow and pads on the maschine. If you already have the akai mpc hardware and you don’t mind it hooked up to a computer then I’d buy the non standalone version such as mikro/mk3..there cheaper but do everything the standalone version does and more.. On the standalone mashine hardware it won’t let you use 3rd party vsts/fx also your limited too how many tracks you can use and which native instruments plugins which will work on this…but the cheaper hardware plugged to your computer is pretty much limitless.

@mysticsailor9 2 года назад

If you currently have neither MPC nor Maschine, then MPC One is a better purchase by a long mile. Akai is far more committed to improving and updating the MPC than NI is about Maschine.

@nickgilday8946 Год назад

@@mysticsailor9 I think that is a little off base. Akai certainly pushes out a lot more hardware products, but it wasn't too long ago that people were scoffing at the MPC rennaissance (for example) and pointing towards Maschine saying "this is how you do it". Companies go through ups and downs and have different paths to execute their vision. Competition drives this often times too, so we'll see what NI has up their sleeve next. They have worked recently to broker mergers and acquisitions which could lead to some really exciting prospects for Maschine. It's not too surprising that big "sexy" updates to the plus haven't come out in the interim of all that change, but they have fixed the biggest problem - stability issues. Now that they are partnered with Izotope and formed Soundwide with other companies, who knows what's on the horizon.

@mysticsailor9 Год назад

@@nickgilday8946 Well all opinions of course (and I have both systems)..but to me Akai is knocking it out of the park with updates and NI , other than the recent auto-sampling, has not made any progress in years..and it needs it..lol

@nickgilday8946 Год назад

@@mysticsailor9 I hear ya I'm just saying that this same critique was being made agains akai years ago as well. Companies have to plan for big advances in their tech, can't just magically make it happen right away. I think your not wrong that NI got too comfortable when Maschine was the unit people were looking at and saying "why can't any of my MPC's do this". Years later Akai got it together and has come out swinging. Now NI seems to be planning SOMETHING. Could it be that they are doubling down as more of a plugin/vst company than anything else? Sure. But could it be that they are planning a shit ton of integrations with the plus or even other bigger things we haven't really thought of? Also very possible. Gotta let it play out.

@matzer8846 2 года назад

OK ok ... watched this and recognised the comments on low CPU power and ... I do guess the answer to this discussion regarding all "self contained devices" should be: "does it do the job" ⁉ If you want something up-gradable ... stick to your PC or Mac .... BUT always take into account: there are technology switches/transitions on PC & Mac hardware which you can't upgrade too‼ Maschine is a great platform to make music anyway ...

@lextron-audio 8 месяцев назад

I use my Maschine plus as a midi controller for an iPad Pro. Not enough ram and processor isn’t quite good enough as a standalone

@FlatWHDF 7 месяцев назад

Say what!!!!!

@lextron-audio 7 месяцев назад

@@FlatWHDF you heard

@DanielIvan707 2 месяца назад

It would of been cool If they gave it better converters

@houseoflatin 2 года назад

BeatBox-Wars

@Phadddy 2 года назад

Is this video from the future? So far we are waiting for ALL Komplete vsts and effects to run in Maschine+, or at least some more...that has not happened yet. My experience with the Maschine+ is good, but all the missing parts - No battery - No speaker - CPU underpowered - Having to look down all the time can be fixed with Maschine mk3 plus laptop...

@genxfeedback 3 месяца назад

a speaker? really? lmao. Kids these days.

@genxfeedback 3 месяца назад

call fisher price, I heard they got, my first sequencer coming.

@Harzurner 2 месяца назад

No tilt screen, pffft, I'll keep my 2KXL thanks.

@MakingMadBeats 2 года назад

Guys, you definetely need to be way more precise with the infos you give out to potential buyers! Maschine+ is not capable of running all of NI' s Komplete VSTs in standalone mode. In fact the instruments that come with it and that work in standalone mode (Monark, Massive e.g.) are special ported versions of these instruments to work with Maschine+, neither do most of their VST effects. If you want to use all of Komplete and 3rd party stuff, you still need to work in controller mode tethered to a computer.

@BecomingProductions 2 года назад

I wish, but unfortunately it's under spec quite massively. Some preset projects that come with some NI expansions will have this ground to a halt. It had so much potential but the CPU just isn't powerful enough for what the device needs. Of course there's workarounds and ways to use it conservatively. At that price you shouldn't have to though. Also the implementation of the included plugins isn't great. They're fine as preset browsers but for the most part you can't create patches from scratch as you don't have access to some fundamental parameters. For example, you have Massive, a wavetable synth, and you can't select different wavetables. The only option if you want access to all parameters is to create a patch on your laptop and transfer it over. That's fine if they admitted that, but advertising it as having full plugin synths like FM8 and Massive standalone simply isn't true unless you're happy just browsing presets.

@theclaverman 2 года назад

I`ll pretty sure the biggest limitation to The Machine + (or any modern electronic instrument) is not its specs, but a man called Dave Kavanagh (...or Simon Madsen for that matter). Hits have been made on devices with far greater limitations. I think we have become pretty spoiled when it comes to music technology....

@BecomingProductions 2 года назад

@@theclaverman judging a device on its ability to make a "hit" doesn't really hold up. By that standard every piece of music tech is infinitely more advanced than what was available decades ago so therefore there is no bad music gear. That's simply not the case. Not all of us are interested in writing hits. Some of us would be content if the device they paid over a grand for could open it's own sample projects without crashes, artifacts and dropouts from the underpowered cpu. Theres plenty of less advanced and less powerful devices that don't suffer from the pitfalls that Maschine Plus does. Theyre typically designed to run well within their own limitations. That cannot be said of Maschine Plus. You can load a small selection of it's built in kits and grind the machine to a halt. Spin it any way you like but a modern expensive device like that should be held to modern standards and expectations.. Yes there are workarounds available for some of it's issues but this is meant to be a high end device, workarounds shouldn't be required.

@Tinmar_Isation 2 года назад

@@theclaverman you should be amazed of what a banjo can do then :)

@FurkanTopal 6 месяцев назад

@@BecomingProductions "Theres plenty of less advanced and less powerful devices that don't suffer from the pitfalls that Maschine Plus does." - can you name them?

@BecomingProductions 6 месяцев назад

@@FurkanTopal easily, the entire MPC range or if you want another example Deluge by Synthstrom. Both have way less hardware resources and can run far more tracks without choking up. Also both have a very straight forward file browser for sample management which Maschine Plus doesn't have. It uses that awful tag based system

@FlatWHDF 7 месяцев назад

2023..... I just ordered this. Ppl choice saying it whack!!!

@mrjohnwilkesbooth 7 месяцев назад

⚠️Fatal Flaw: the *'absence of tempo/meter changes'* makes *ALL VERSIONS* of *Maschine* quite *'limited'.* 👉🏾 ⚠️⚠️ *You guys* aren't thinking like a *'Composer'* instead, you are thinking like a *'Musical-Basicalist'* (primitive).

@dankeplace 2 года назад

Akai Force is better and cheaper imo. While it may not have the software, it has better layout for pads and assignable knobs imo. Quirky layout but a great stand alone imo.

@neurosentience5150 3 месяца назад

I’m confused as to why someone would make a drum track like this. Chopped? Wouldn’t you want to make your own beat? Idk, I don’t like this style. I have the mpc one but I use it like an instrument library and loop.

@gffg387 2 года назад

I prefer the MPC Live. But Maschine is good as well.

@reggieware6751 Год назад

It’s not an improvement of the MK3 it is the MK3 stand alone

@crls9827 Год назад

"plenty of RAM for effects and stuff" - that's not true, have you really used this thing? it starts having problems very quickly.

@Tinmar_Isation 2 года назад

Wow... looks amazing! * ah, without touch screen and SSD ** ah, with no battery power ***** ah, with 4Gb limit ****** ah, only 2 outs and a pair of midi ******* ah, no CV ******** ah, $1300 but it's not an MPC so that's nice.

@Sypher474 Год назад

*Doesn't need a touchscreen, UI is very muscle memory friendly - fastest workflow I've had on a hardware device. Connect a USB SSD for extra storage if you want even more space over the SD card. **I run mine on a usb powerbank just fine, and I can replace it when it eventually dies. There is nothing worse than high price devices with internal batteries that fail after a couple of years. ***4Gb ram has never caused any issues. ****Connect it to an audio interface. Midi Thru exists - MidiSolutions QuadraThru is what I use. *****Fair, but not an issue for me. Keystep Pro I use as a keyboard attached to the M+ does my CV. ******Took a risk on this device, and it's easily paid for itself already with how much flexibility and speed it has given me. I'd pay 2k for it knowing what I know now.

@andrzejkucharzyk9970 6 месяцев назад

Stop demanding touch screens everywhere. Its purpose based hardware, not a f... tablet.

@JayfkProductions876 2 года назад

4Gb for vst's 😂 😂 😂 what a joke 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 shoulda equipped it with Atleast 16Gb & SSD support & a removable battery especially for the price of 1400$USD As of today may, 31st 2022 Its 1,299$ 🇺🇸 Sweetwater 898 🇬🇧 Thomann

@D1570R73D 2 года назад

Memory is not the same thing as storage. Also, a large portion of the price reflects the bundled software, which integrates horribly into a daw (looking at you maschine).

@JayfkProductions876 2 года назад

@@D1570R73D in 2022 4GB of ram doesn't make sense & the bundled software affecting price would make sense if all the own NI software was compatible with it Its not, some of their key plugins still not compatible & the price is stupid since it's not even proper standalone since no removable battery, u need A/C power I got a MaschineMk3 for 600$ instead Maschine+ wasn't properly planned out but maybe MK2 will Adress these issues

@gffg387 2 года назад

So underpowered. NI lost a great opportunity with this one. MK3 is for sure a better option for Maschine.

@SourDiesel69 2 года назад

Force is better

@FlatWHDF 7 месяцев назад

How so

@substance90 4 месяца назад

That's what I assumed and bought a Force to replace my Maschine but then the workflow turned out to suck. It basically tries to be Ableton in a box but fails miserably at it. So It's back to Maschine for me.

@stevewoywitka3258 3 месяца назад

I got them and I find the force has the guts to be a master groovebox and almost can be said maschine plus since the sound engine has at best 10 points of automation. But no visual of automation. Force has the envelope follower also

@genxfeedback 3 месяца назад

nope