My Mil Wants Me to Give My 3 Year Old Daughter to My Sister-in-law and Her Husband or Else She Would Take Me to Court for Being an Irresponsible Parent, Which I Am Not. #redditupdate #redditstories #askredditstories
How sad that they're disrespecting their daughter like this. They don't understand the damage that poor kid will suffer after first losing her mom and then her dad.
You were way too nice to them. From the moment she threatened you to take your daughter you should have been proactive and gotten a restraining order from there and I would have gone no contact. Them wanting to meet at the Cafe would have been a huge ni and them wanting to be in your daugtets life so they can manipulate her and make them seem like they are cool and have her stay with them would open the door for them to become care givers. And uou can stop them from seeing your daughter. They may be family but they have no right or entitlement or access to your daughter legally. So NTA. You could have gone a lot harsher and even cut all contact with them. Exposing that toxic mess to your daughter is not in her best interest.
Nope because the courts might look down on that as he would’ve made no attempt to be reasonable or reconcile. Another father on Reddit got forced by court to allow a toxic grandmother in his child’s life by taking a strong measure (grandparents rights). Stop thinking with your ego/emotions
@@TimTheEnchanter0 different places have different rules, some have grandparents rights, others don’t. The story you speak of sounds like somewhere that does, because if there’s no grandparents right, the courts cannot make you let anyone visit your child you don’t want.
@@TimTheEnchanter0just make sure they get no alone time with the child. I also would have told SIL's husband. Sounded like he was less on board with the whole thing and he may not have known it was all a ploy to get money. If he knew that he may of left her, at which point the whole scheme is over.
I would not have trusted them also, I would’ve said no and roll down the fact that they decide to try to call you to talk to you the time and the place right it would’ve wrote it all down
adoption is a complicated and expensive legal process. Many couples try to adopt for years and never succeed. Going through the foster system is also difficult with lots of hoops to jump through. It's easier and cheaper for people to try and steal someone else's kid, through legal or illegal means.
I know, but it's worth it. NO matter how much years it takes to adopt a child , they should think of how much life-changing it would be for that child , it not just about them or what they want . It is scary to be helpless in a situation that you have no control or say over it . And I think both of op and her biological daughter experienced that .
Well just cus ur name is Karen doesn’t mean ur entitled. This name is just used by the internet to showcase entitlement so pls don’t go around bullying people named Karen
Take your little girl and run. Go to anothe state, change your names, don't ever let them anywhere near her. Go so deep underground that they will never find you.
Great story, the OP put his MIL and SIL in their place and let them know what this nonsense must come to an end and it did plus their own granddaughter and niece is happy and thriving and healthy, that's all it matters and they should respect that period.
I was going to give Karen and Emily a little grace and suggest they get therapy. But they don't deserve any consideration from anyone. And OP needs to keep Lily away from them. Absolutely get an RA. And cameras, new locks, and let the school know they aren't allowed to pick Lily up.
How could they possibly sleep at night knowing they were trying to use their sister/daughter’s kid for money to solve sister-in-laws infertility I could never even dream of that. taking away your own sister’s daughter to use her for selfish gain unbelievable it’s disgusting and op only ever wanted his kid to have a happy and healthy life but they took that for granted and tried to use her 😡
With her logic is she expecting the government to remove every child from a single parent household and place them with complete strangers so that they could have both male and female parental figure😂 it doesn’t work that way they can have their own kids, but they can’t have somebody else’s just because it’s a single parent home. Their infertility issues is not your problem. They can adopt other kids that have actually been abandoned. That’s why you don’t tell family about trusts funds set aside for your kids. I know I won’t. I have savages for family. I would stay away from those people they were willing to rob her of money she didn’t even have access to yet.
You shouldn't have mentioned that you knew everything. At court they would lose the case pretty hard and have harsh conseqvencies. This is not a family but a group of strangers. I know that you want to keep the family together for Lilly's sake, but people like this who view her as an object does not belong to her life.
Tbh I wouldn't be this nice. If they really had unfounded claims just to get me to lose custody and then I found put it was just for money, oh it would be over.
I would have just met with Emily privately and secretly record it. I'd say ''I hear you want Lily so you can get money for fertility treatments.'' and then say ''if you will stop trying to take my child I will give you the money''. Then if she says 'yes' she will drop the suit you know for sure it was a money thing and now you have evidence.
This is AI generated fiction, not an actual event. So everything that did or did not happen is still in the hypothetical. But taking it at face value, the efficacy of recording depends on jurisdiction. If it was in the U.S., in most states, you have "Single-party consent", but a few states like California and Texas are "two-party consent". You generally cannot record a conversation between two parties without their knowledge and have it admissible as evidence in court without a warrant. So for something like a wire-tap on a phone, or intercepted emails, you need a warrant. A third party cannot use recordings gathered that way. That's why most retailers for example have signs "This location is under CCTV surveillance", that posted notification means anyone who enters is aware and has given implicit consent to the recording by entering a place where they know they will be recorded. Same thing with call-centers that disclose "This call is being recorded for quality assurance", as the notification covers their ass in both scenarios, as all parties are notified in advance. In a Single-Party consent state, only one person in the conversation needs to know and consent to the recording. So you could record your own phone calls for instance, and you don't need to notify the other party in advance. This is how most of the U.S. works. In a two-party consent state, all parties need to be informed they are being recorded. If they're not, the recording is inadmissible as evidence. The recording can still be useful in other ways, just not presented directly as evidence. So it really depends on where they live.
This is really next level of lazy write😂😂😂, if someone try to use your child as pawn for they own gain and you should cut of them from your child life not included them in child life. What a stupid father, for think they will not full this type of stand again 😂😂😂
if I heard that "request" ? I would have pulled out my phone and started recording as I asked her to clarify what she had said .. you want them to adopt her? you want me to sign away my parental rights? would you tell her I was her father? .. and with the sister's visit -- I would keep that phone app handy
I'm surprised that SIL is still married to her husband after this stunt. I bet he felt super uncomfortable knowing what her wife was doing. And they should have started looking for adoption is there really desperate to be parents
They want to get their hands on LIly's inheritance so they can use it for infertility treatment. Meaning they don't give a shit about Lily. The moment they get their hands on Lily's money and sister in law gets pregnant, they will dump Lily on the grandparents, some other family member or maybe even in foster care so they can focus on their 'miracle baby'.
Unfortunately they proved they are "family" ... attempting to steal the child's inheritance... I would have gone to court and gone scorced earth with those deranged criminals.
The only advice I would give to anyone with children is to have a very good will and a person you trust to be guardian for your child, and as life changes update that will!
What is it with all the Communist/Socialist mentality on here? ‘I don’t have X and you have plenty, so you are beholden to give me what I need’ is stupid beyond imagination.
Common among infertile peoples, I seen this often. Many of them wasted their fertility by waiting too long because they chased money or having unhealthy lifestyle since early childhood (extreme diets, revealing clothes in winters, hormonal pill popping, history of std's or terminations, addictive substance use) but then blames fertile peoples and parents for their problem and demands to be given other peoples kids because they typically have more money than families with children and therefore they think they would be better parents. Children are treated like another box to check in life's "to do list" after they get it all in other fields.
Technically he could have also gone with an extortion claim against them. That could have put those two trollops in a jail cell and possibly worse if the inmates found out you are there for trying to steal your own family member's inheritance for your own ego driven endeavors. It would be blood in the water.
its so sad most kids need a father like this not me tho my dads amazing but thats why he has a strong case he is an amazing fauther that deserved to keep lilly
As a daughter of a single father, he and my little brother WERE my real family. Were there certain things I wasn't familiar with because of a lack of a mother? Definitely. But that didn't make my family any less REAL. If someone approached me with a "You're not in a real or proper family" comment I would probably never speak to them again.
How can you weren't too harsh you weren't harsh enough. First of all you shouldn't have told them you known. That was your ace in your pocket bro. If they continued you would have documented at all in fact you should have started recording calls and a visits, and let them dig their own grave. I know you don't want to stop them, but by a continuing you are allowing them to slowly poison your daughter. They are not people she should be around if they are trying to use her to steal her inheritance. In fact the second that they threatened you you should have immediately known to record every visit. Well okay I'm sorry I don't know if you're in a state or you have to have both people's approval or you can just do it on your own. But if you're in a place where you can record with just your own approval, then you immediately should have started recording all of the calls all of the visits everything. They are some disgusting ass people to be using the death of your wife, and"what's best for Lily" I mean from the beginning they had zero feet to stand on, but still, better safe than sorry. Because they could have gotten a bunch of people to lie on you. Strangers whom you barely met. Because the promise of $$$ is the quickest and easiest way to get people on your side especially if it's a large amount. But regardless they are disgusting people to even think that oh my sister died there's a bunch of money that was left to her let's destroy this little kid's life our little niece and granddaughter for the money. And then when the sister gets pregnant, they're going to treat that other little girl like garbage. I'm sorry I'm so angry about this. They care about nobody but themselves and the money. That's benefit off my sister/daughters death by stealing what was left to her from her grandfather and stealing it away from our niece / granddaughter for our own benefit. Ugh. It's honestly disgusting knowing that this isn't the only time this is ever going to happen. People are so greedy and self-centered and narcissistic that you know this happens more often than we know about. Anyway sorry lol apparently this hit me right in my heart. 😅😊
i would protect her from Karen and Emily. I would do supervised visitations. I would still be scared if she is left alone what poison they would try to spew.
There are plenty of single fathers, so how is Ops situation any of the in laws business; spoiler alert, there was a potential financial gain, Lilly’s inheritance.
Your doing the right thing. A kid doesn't need two parent to be happy they just need one that's gonna be their for them no matter what and will support then through life's challenges. In fact, wandering wheather your doing the right thing and think of giving your daughter up shows how great of a parent you are bc your considering what's best for your daughter and is willing to do what's best for her rather than what's best for you.
Where do they get off DEMANDING that OP just hands HIS child to other people like she's a nothing but a piece of property?! 'You're being selifsh! Your daughter has the right to have a NORMAL family life'. That's complete BS. Ripping an happy, healthy, well-adjusted toddler away from her daddy - after she already lost her mommy - is just cruel and inhumane. I would even call it child abuse. It sucks that sister in law has infertitilty issues, but just 'giving' her SOMEONE ELSE'S CHILD is not a solution. Don't they care how absolutely TRAUMATIZING it will be for OP'S daughter if they get their way? She's 3 years old! Why would you do that to an innocent little girl?! Edit: So it wasn't really about Lily, it was about the trust fund. Okay, that makes them even bigger AH'S.
As soon as I read the title I was like and I quote”WHAT THE FUCK WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD DO A SHITTY THING LIKE THAT” I’m not proud of my outburst and I don’t think I like ur mother in law I know I don’t know u but I don’t think I like her if she treats u like that
What’s best for Lily is to be with her Father. Money can be evil. There’s no way Emily could get Lily’s money since it’s n a trust. Trustee still needs to be aware of the situation, even though the custody battle is over. There r lots of single fathers raising their children, deaths & divorce. Glad his battle was over.
Why is the possibility of OP remarrying a trigger for the SIL? Then the declaration that he's not getting married is a bigger trigger? Nevermind. The money snatch scheme just came up.
--- OP's in-laws are quite unhinged to think that they can use Lily as an ATM. Too bad Karen and Emily not onky didn't get their cash cow, they lost unrestricted time with their granddaughter/neice.
S1 Seeing how toxic his in laws are, OP should have moved closer to HIS birth family within a reasonable time after his wife's untimely death. He would have got assured dependable babysitting from mom at a minimum
You definitely should have taken legal action. - They were jeopardising Lily’s wellbeing and safety all for a little bit of cash. You have to be honestly monsters to do that, and to lie so blatantly and so frequently. You were way too nice and you should’ve been more harsh.
Sorry this MIL and your SIL wants to kidnap your child. It’s sad that they have issues whit conceiving. But they have no right to your daughter they have no business whit who you marry or who becomes Lilly’s stepsister they have mo legal basis to take your daughter. Sorry these people are no longer your family or Lilly’s family they are a threat to you and your daughter.. go completely No contact these people are disgustingly wanting to tear a daughter away from her father her only remaining parent
So... if you don't care about your child you are a craphole, but if you care and do everything to be a responsible father you are a craphol3 father who is being selfish and unresponsible? Wtf??
I repeat, if they can do it once they can do it twice. I dont think reconnect with toxic people would have good impact to lily. What if she got manipulated by them. You can't always be with her and monitoring her all her life. Got lily and you a restraining order until lily turn 25. Atleast she can think more mature at that age, hopefully
Not in any universe I'm gonna let this snakes meet my daughter, they probably gonna manipulate Lily and turning her against OP. I hope hе"ll be wary about their meetings
They messed up not you. Your job is to protect your daughter no matter what and you’re wife passed away, and her family decided to be thieves and try to steal her money in those given your daughter. If someone ever tries to steal something from you just because the family member that was connected to pass away and it’s for something like money there’s selfish and that’s really messed up.
I'm sorry but after that I would have gone completely no contact with either of them. They selfishly wanted to tear a child away from her father after she had already lost her mother in order to steal that child inheritance. If they'd succeeded in taking it and the sil got pregnant she most likely would have started neglecting Lilly for their bio child. It's always sad hearing stuff like this. Adoption is a thing.
Do you think you can do well for your daughters and you’re the best person for your daughter. I know sometimes people think it’s better for kids to go off with other family members but it really highly depends on the situation like if the parents are actually really bad for the child but you seem to be trying to do the best for her so you are the best option. If you think you can do it otherwise talking to your other family members would be a good idea even your family in-laws.
When they say they have evidence and they dont share it when challenged on it, they have nothing. Had a friend claim to have video proof that another friend had abused her kid. I asked her to send it to me so I could see it before I broke the friendship since I won't just take her word on it. She made excuses upon excuses not to show me this supposed video evidence. She claimed she would take the video to the police but considering nothing has happened to that other friend after more than a year, clearly she had nothing even if she had a video of something.
My dad can raise TWO KIDS on his own and we hate/cause a lot of trouble on his own my parents are divorced I have a step dad but she did do the same thing before 8:32
As soon as the mother in law even suggested he give up his daughter to his sister in law like that, I would have looked her in the eye and told her if she ever wants to see this child again, she will drop that conversation and never bring it up again.
Emily needs to realize that if she can’t have kids she’s unfit to be a mothers that’s the reality she needs to look at maybe it’s a sign since she can try and take away someone’s kid then someone needs to tell her it’s for the best since she’s unfit to even bare her own child
As someone who recently lost family, death often shows who people really are. Sounds like death showed their entitlement. They don’t really value family, just their selfishness.
The thing that shocks me the most is how people in this storys are soo calm facing this staf like common its either that you'll are soo major or that i have angar etsiuo😅
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