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My Gunny was a big advocate for the daily 14. The daily 7 to warm up then a 7 mile run. He thought it was a good idea. At the time I was for it. Although now my knees are saying "maybe Air Force was onto something". Good training - Semper Fi.
Every member of Congress in favor of such a change should be required to participate in a PFT before voting. Not that I think they would adjust their stance on the decision; I just think it'd be funny.
I never understood the military PFTs. Like I understood being in shape and always ready but it's just push ups, sit ups, 1.5 to 2 miles always seemed weird to me. Like i was Navy, and i made the comment before that our PFT should focus on fire fighting. You know being able to make it from one end of the ship to the other in full kit, being able to carry and drag an average or above weighted dummy and being able to make it up and down ladder ways fast enough with a hose. I have friends who where Army and Marine infantry deployed who always said I have never ran 2 miles in combat, but I have had to drag people about 100 yards. Now I am not saying those things don't have a place but i feel as though we don't train out PT as we fight.
The run makes sense... And at the same time makes zero sense. It makes sense that it does gauge cardio vascular endurance, and while you aren't going to be running in combat, that endurance is a thing. But it also makes zero sense because, like you have mentioned, and so many others myself included feel... There are more applicable ways to gauge cardio while being more closely related to the jobs of combat. Ironically the ACFT added the Sprint Drag Carry, but kept the run as well lol.
When I was in 3/75 back in the day the standard was always higher. Back the the APFT had the highest standard for the 17-21 age group and we all had to perform to that standard regardless of age. I will say we were all BMFs.
This is classic behaviour of people with no actual answers. Change something inconsequential so they have something they can point to and say it was succesful The French philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre spoke about it in the sixties, nothing has changed.
Honestly, I feel this is of the Army's own doing. I never understood why some groups had such a hard-on to get rid of the APFT. True, maybe not the best measure of fitness, but it was simpler, no need for special equipment, and only needed a few people to organize the event. The Army was switching over to this new one as I was retiring, and I only had to participate in this once, and, I decided not too, as the ball was in motion and I was days away from signing my DD214.
Isn't the idea that everybody can move and fight to standard if they have to? Not trying to be obstinate, I'm just a civvie, so I don't understand the finer points.
No. Everyone should have the same standard. I’ve met cooks “reclassed” as 11b in Iraq. And I’m a Marine. That shit threw me for a loop. “They can just change your job?”
@@i-love-comountains3850 This was true in WW2, when there was actually marching from objective to objective, so you would need to be in shape or be left behind. We don't operate that way anymore.
No one has ever been involuntarily "reclassed" to infantry in the modern military so your point is invalid. That would violate the enlistment contract, which wouldn't fly.. You're either lying or misinformed. @@bobrice5159
Mandatory funday, As an NCO who's been in the same time you have, it's my opinion that the Army along with the other branches has fallen behind in regards to physical fitness. It's an uphill battle convincing troops that getting a 360 on the acft and passing tape by 1% is not what they should strive for. I would like to see big Army attempt to aid in ficking the problem.
The British army now has a gender and age agnostic fitness test now, the standards are abysmally low and all the newer soldiers failed when we did the old fitness test for fun.
Combat arms can be vague, 68W for example can be in hospitals or in infantry units. What standard will they be held to? How about AIT? Will they get their hypothetical combat arms orders after graduation canceled because they passed the non-combat arms PT stand but failed to get a passing score for combat arms?
Are our combat arms soldiers showing signs of being unable to properly do their jobs due to lack of physical fitness? Or is this just a senator / old vet who says everything was tougher back in their day?
I remember when it was annual physical fitness test…. Then they added a diagnostic 6 months prior. & even though it was diagnostic they would STILL flag ya if ya failed.. so it became 2 record apt.. now quarterly?? Y’all have a sucky life. 😮
I love your channel, but I never got the honor to serve. Metal rod in my leg at 17 made me inelligable. Funny enough, overcompensating and running into burning buildings gave me the same PTSD.