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Thanks that helps !!!

Why? I am researching software

@@AllWheatherSim it's a stupid meme, it started in this video (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dKx1wnXClcI.html) which might be more useful to you

@@prototypeinheritance515 thanks-just watched the link

So how does one get it to work ..or even open? I downloaded Sibelius First. Useless.

Hey man, I am currently working on an Idea for score music programs like Sibelius. If you could just tell me what else you find annoying, I can add it to my target list and start making this really kick-ass!

Sibelius will NOT allow you to turn OFF automatic spacing update, so that when you do the slightest change to an already tweaked measure it completely reverts back to default. Astonishing.

so -grouping identification for individual parts -custom spacing update function Got it! If more comes up. Don't hesitate to post here.

Actually, the need is to be able to attach names to groups and instruments INDEPENDENT of each other so that, say, Horns, as a group, may be named, and the 1st/2nds and the 3rd/4ths may be named, independently and aligned and positioned independently. The spacing problem is that you cannot FREEZE the spacing in place once you've tweaked it. Nothing is more disturbing than to spend vast amounts of time on a complicated passage setting the spacing only to have it go ass over tea kettle simply by adding an accidental to one note in the measure...argh!

I got you the first time, I think I framed it differently. Say, we have a set: group - Orchestra Subgroups - | Horns | Strings | reeds | timpani And you want like, naw man! we got 2 groups of horns one tells the tale of the hunter and the other the role of the deer. so you get: Orchestra Sub groups - | Horns | Strings | Reeds | Timpani sub sub group | Hunter horns | Deer Horns| still being played by Tom, Dick, harry and the 3 stooges. Their names are not afected by group changing, only the hierarchy. That And The nodes for custom framework between the spacing must be capable of being applied with anchorpoints preventing that wich otherwise undermines your specified wishes of spacing

Did you see the video lol? For the second question...

Me too! 😆

Then you are screwed! Start using Dorico by Steinberg and you won't need a numeric keypad. Also all the shortcuts make a lot more sense and the interface is much more simplified.

You can get a USB external keypad. They are not that expensive. Or alternatively, but not as convenient, use an external keyboard that has a keypad.

Had the same problem. This one really helps: www.sibelius.com/cgi-bin/helpcenter/chat/chat.pl?com=thread&start=514316&groupid=3&&guest=1

you can change the keyboard shortcut settings to laptop style in the preference and use you number rows instead.

Yeah - I have the same problem - I am a new user, just a couple weeks and need to add notes or rests to a place other than the unwritten blank space on the right, but cannot place the insertion point between the already-placed notes. Called the 800 number, but they want more money before they answer the question, so they sent me back to this same tutorial.

If I understood this correctly, here's what I would do: 1. Select all the notes from where you want the rest to the end (click on the first one, hold shift, click on the last). 2. Cut them (ctrl-x). 3. Put in your rest. 4. Click on the next rest after the one you inserted, and paste all the notes back in (ctrl-v).

yup

The "live recording" version is awful and unreadable, though. Sibelius claims you can't keep a steady beat, but the jokes on it because it can't even write itself down in the correct time-signature when it's playing.

It depends on which version you have, if you have the free version, you only piano for melody.

Murali VZ 1.) On the main menu, under New Score, click Blank, click Create. 2.) Right-click on the page and click Instruments. 3.) Under Keyboards, click Piano and click 'Add to Score'. It will add a Piano (a) and Piano (b). 4.) Click on the clef that you want to record. 5.) Click on 'Play' tab and press the Record (red circle) button. Hope this helps.

Have you got Sibelius 7 Sounds installed? If so, make sure they are selected in your score by choosing the 'play' tab, then clicking 'configuration' on the far left and making sure Sibelius 7 Sounds in ticked.

SnareDrummer Yes you can. In the main menu, under 'New Score', there's a section for 'Marching Band and Percussion'.

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I can't tell if you're kidding or not. If you're not, no. You use DAWs like Ableton, Logic, or FL with Kontakt plugins for instruments + samples/loops. Softsynths like Serum or Sylenth1 are usually used as VST plugins, too.

Thanks. I wasn't kidding. What I meant by rock n roll artists are folk like DJ Snake, Mike Posner, The Chainsmokers etc. Maybe this renosance of the '80s to '90 synth sound is actually "pop". It sounds like a form of rock n roll to me but using synth sounds in place of electric guitars.

That's dance music. But anyway, that sound - I had to help someone get the Chainsmokers sound the other day. It takes a bit of work, but most bands like that aren't too hard. Here read this equipboard.com/pros/the-chainsmokers read that. Their thing is mostly synthbrass and they use sylenth1 and serum mostly , whereas most of teh pop dance stuff uses nexus. Chainsmokers sound is more complicated (they're actual producers), the kid you mentioned with the shitty EDM/pop and most modern pop/dance is just nexus presets. You will be shocked when you listen to Nexus and realize that yes you too can be an EDM artist. EDM is like punk or hardcore when we I was a kid (IDK how old you are) and I realized it's 3 chords and started a band with my equally untalented friends. It's very very easy music to make. I hate it, but the kids like it and if it gets them interested in writing music, eh wtf. So got get logic ($150 or $200) or ableton intro ($100) and acquire a copy of kontakt and nexus and you can probably make better music than that first kid in a bout a week if you have any musical training. Hell, even if you don't. The key is the softsynths.

If you're musically trained, I can explain what they're doing too that way, but I think it's easier if you just look at the software. It's mostly that, what they're actually playing musically is very simple. A lot of stuff you may think is playing is arpeggiations or saws (it's automatic-ish). No BS, about 90% of modern music is just having the right software. It's not just EDM or whatever. Scoring uses software heavily too (and not SIbelius :lol:) esp stuff like Heavyocity's Damage for Percussion. I just recorded a cumbia on my couch (no samples) in my DAW that's pretty much indistinguishable from live instruments. And with multi-racks, I can do it pretty quickly. I recorded a piece using a digital instrument for Kontakt that was a Fazioli, an instrument that costs more than my house but which I purchased at some point from imperfect samples for @$60 or so. Again indistinguishable from a real piano (except for the fact no one would ever let me near a Fazioli the way I play) last week. The technology out there now is amazing. Check it out.

Hey thanks a bunch! I'll certsinly check out those softwares.

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I dont know but it kinda makes sense to not ignore bars.

I solved it. It's called MIDI editing, and it is hundreds of years more advanced than stave writing. You just need any basic music making program. Sibelius has locked itself into the complications of the disadvantaged musically educated of the 21st Century. Yes, bars should definitely be ignored when extending notes and dropping new notes anywhere into a song you're dreaming up. Modern programs do this without looking back. Programs like Sibelius and Finale and now defunct thanks to MIDI editing. You can switch to score view mode in those programs whenever you want anyway. As a software developer, I find the Sibelius interface sinful. And Julian, thanks for the shrug. I hope you don't live your entire life that way.

I absolutely agree with you. I actually use midi editing every day and it makes everything much more efficient. What I meant is when you have a certain time signature it makes sense. You'd have to connenct notes in order to achieve that which can be a pain.

note performer has incredible playback sounds and phrasing, etc

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+Ramiro Sotto I did the same thing yesterday. Did you find how to get it back? I dont really want to watch the video.

+Ramiro Sotto Oh. there it is. They call them fingers, but I've never seen them fing. Oh, there they go.

+Ramiro Sotto Go to the tab "view" click on "panels" check the box "keypad"

Blame it on the Russians.

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I find that you must click to select which clef you wish to play notes into. Unfortunately, there seems to be no way for Sibelius to input right and left hands simultaneously, instead if has a freak-ass low treble note that's impossible to read.

It's not "ten times faster to write the notes by hand" if you're going to be transposing the score into various different keys!