I would love to see a fight like this start out as a sort of presidential debate between the two. They both have such radically different ideas on how to improve the country, and are extremely passionate about their ideals. It could be an amusing dialogue between them.
I used to think that this matchup would not work as a fight because of how different their abilities are. But now I believe that it could just work and be made better if we make them both have a presidential debate which would slowly escalate into a fight to the death.
I think the perfect battle would be valentine coming to the MGS time period, getting into a debate with Armstrong, then defeating him once the debate turns physical. Like the finale with Johnny, Armstrong and valentine would have a heart-to-heart then join forces to create the ‘True’ America
They arguing if Valentine could undo his shirt or a backpack to activate his power, remember that Funny always carry with him the Flag of UNited States of America and use it to activate his powers. If this fights receive the green ligh. It will be the most patriotic fight of the DB history. It should be air in july
Slight correction - Scary Monsters (the 'turn-into-a-dinosaur' thing) is not Diego's Stand, but that of minor villain Dr Ferdinand. Diego kept the power after Dr Ferdinand died because he was in possession of the Left Eye of the Holy Corpse*. So the main SBR universe Diego does not have a Stand of his own. An alternate version, however, has The World, suggesting that if Dio/Diego acquires a Stand naturally it will always be The World. * All the Corpse Parts grant some kind of power - the Left Eye's is AFAIK never fully explained but seems to be something like 'copy the supernatural powers of others'
I love this matchup! As a massive fan of both Metal Gear and JJBA, I would argue that this matchup is much closer than we are led to believe at first. While Funny Valentine does have the hax associated with D4C, those hax do not garuntee that he can survive/kill Armstrong. In his fight with Diego, Valentine is on the backfoot as Diego is actively trying to make his death instant whilst remvoing oppritunities for Valentine to escape to another universe. Should Diego have succeded in this plan, Valentine would have died before he could swap out with an AU counterpart. A fight with Armstrong would play out similar to this since Armstrong severly outclasses Valentine in terms of physical ability. This can be determined when scaling Armstrong to Raiden in his various feats across the Metal Gear franchise. That must be the power of nanomachines. Even if Valentine could drag another Armstrong to the universe where they're fighting that won't garuntee a win as well. What's stopping the two Armstrongs from working together? As we saw with Diego in his first encounter with Valentine, an individual can escape paradoxical collision. Armstrong's strength could help him back out from a collision and from there he could strategize with himself. That said, this is still a stetch as paradoxical collision would be an effective way at eliminating Armstrong. This makes the matchup a strength VS hax debate which is tricky to figure out. I would argue that it is extremely close, but I think Armstrong would have the tools more often than not to kill Valentine instantly. This remains true until we consider Love Train. Should Valentine have Love Train (despite it not belonging to him), then Valentine will easily win this fight 95% of the time. NOTE: I also don't think it would be fair to scale D4C to any OG universe stands. There is no connecting link between the two universes in terms of scaling outside of stand stats. Stand stats are more often inconsistent than they are representative of the stand's capabilities. Parts 7-9's stand stats may be based on an entirely different metric and I believe it would only be fair to scale stands in those parts to eachother instead of 3-6.
If you think about it, paradoxal collision wouldnt work against armstrong, no joke because NANOMACHINES SON. The nanomachines are millions of tiny objects, if another armstrong was brought in, the nanomachines would block armstrongs actual body from being touched and itd be nigh-impossible for even a single nanomachine and their respective other universe self to make contact since their would be millions that are microscopic in the way, its like throwing a grain of sand into a desert
@@koboldwizard The nanomachines would not block the antimatter collision because they are themselves affected by the collision. They're still the same nanomachines as the one the Armstrong has, so they'd also explode just touching each other. The Armstrongs would have millions of little explosions happening in their bodies until they were all gone.
It would be one-sided though. Your part about a stand user that can between travel between dimensions and bring objects from those dimensions including people diversity is someone with nanomachines and their body. There's no contest Funny Valentine which is ultimately win. Also Senator Armstrong is not a stand user so he can't see funny Valentine's stand ability
@@alovekok9044 Yes, unless the exception to the rule is that you can see “spiritual” energy manifestations like Kenshiro did in Ken vs Jotaro. There are also some stands which are tied to physical objects or locations and as such, are visible.
Even though this debate was horribly one-sided due to circumstances, I feel like after reviewing the facts, the character with the most win conditions won. Even without that one contentious ability, it would have gone the same way. Stats versus tricks matches are always a good time, especially when JoJo is involved.
In terms of raw speed, strength, and fighting talent, Armstrong would clap. But D4C just has absurd hax and Armstrong has no way to put Valentine down for good.
@@mystrenula3911 Sure, one shot, then another one of the infinite valentines shows up. Armstrong literally has 0 ways to win... Also you can be wrong and upset about it as much as you want, but the speed is very much what it is.
@@Michael-bn1oi there's only one d4c and if Valentine dies before transferring d4c to another Valentine then it dies for good, and if Armstrong so much as coughed in Valentine's direction the force of the wind that would cause would make Valentine disintegrate, no time to transfer at all, but if Armstrong gets d4c'd then he's just as dead
I agree , unless Armstrong gets an one shot kill on Valentine , he will come back . If he has Love Train it doesn't even matter if Armstrong hits him , because the misfortune will be sent to someone else on the planet
@@themostamericankenjakuI can't even begin to parse Valentine's powers, but something I never see someone mention in this matchup is that Armstrong is already at an inherent disadvantage, being unable to see or hit Stands.
JoJo matchups are such an anomaly when it comes to vs debating. A lot of their most common matchups, on paper they should lose because the opponent is stronger and can tank their outright damage, but because they have such a lopsided high speed tier and weird instakill powers it makes most of their matchups heavily debatable if not outright wins. About the only outright loses I can think of are some of their Persona matches and MAYBE Kuwabara. It's a scenario as bizarre as the show itself
@AnUnrealBoy While I, personally, don't believe JoJo to be as fast as Dio's episode made them out to be, I have seen consistent calls across the various battleboarding places that do place them at FTL. That's why I said they have a lopsided speed tier compared to their AP. Generally, building to town level AP characters tend to be massively hypersonic to relativistic. JoJo is the only series in that tier that I know of that consistently shows many ftl feats
Jojo’s “Stone ocean, bohemian rhapsody arc” featured Spider-Mans hand in the manga. Even if he is a fake character in this story, he exists in a world where a Jojo story occurs. This means that alternate versions of Spider-Man can exist where Spider-Man does exist like the Marvel vs Capcom games. In one of the Marvel vs Capcom games is the Rathalos armor wearing Hunter which means that monster Hunter is connected to Marvel to Jojos bizarre adventure. Most of us should know that naked snake/big boss has fought against Rathalos before meaning that the worlds of MGS and bizarre adventure are chain-able.
Jonathan, Joseph, Jotaro, DIO, and Giorno were in Shonen Jump games before, linking them to Naruto Lars from Tekken appears in one of the Storm games, linking Tekken to Naruto and JoJo Street Fighter vs Tekken is a thing, so it links SF to Tekken, Naruto and Jojo Ryu is in Smash Bros, which has Solid Snake, linking JoJo to Metal Gear
If there was ever one of these I wished actually got made into a full DB it's this, they both have 3D models, they have wildly different skill sets, and they're both super quotable
@@error-4269well Armstrong has no way of countering d4c, there’s nothing stopping valentine from just sending him to an alternate reality he can’t get back from
@@radiospace7071 he needs to activate his abilities first which he doesn't get to do because he's too slow and I know what his abilities are I read the goddamn Manga
No one gonna mention Metal Gear has multiverses with the MGS2 Substance release of the game there's a multiverse story called "Snake Tales" Featuring multiple realities and different variations of existing characters. It isn't canon but Kojima did write it and it takes its self as seriously as side content can.
I’ve got some ideas for a Death Battle: 1. Deku vs Ms. Marvel (My Hero Academia vs Marvel Comics) 2. John Wick vs Beatrix Kiddo 3. Zer0 vs Raiden (Borderlands vs Metal Gear) 4. Predator vs Arbiter (Predator vs Halo) 5. Tanjiro vs Hyakkimaru (Demon Slayer vs Dororo) 6. Saitama vs Superman (One-Punch Man vs Super Friends) 7. Akuma vs Yujiro (Street Fighter vs Baki) 8. Link vs Adol Christin (Legend of Zelda vs Ys) 9. Scott vs Naota (Scott Pilgrim vs FLCL) 10. Erza vs Clare (Fairy Tail vs Claymore) 11. Goku vs Jin Mori (Dragon Ball vs The God of High School) 12. Cell vs Fu (Dragon Ball vs No More Heroes) 13. Luz vs Anne (The Owl House vs Amphibia) 14. Ichigo vs Yusuke (Bleach vs Yu Yu Hakusho) 15. Sasuke vs Zeldris (Naruto vs Seven Deadly Sins) 16. Leonardo vs Daredevil (Ninja Turtles vs Marvel) 17. Shikamaru vs Zora (Naruto vs Black Clover) 18. Steven vs Adora (Cartoon Network vs She-Ra and the Princesses of Power) 19. Colonel vs M. Bison (Mega Man vs Street Fighter) 20. Ken Vs Shinichi (Tokyo Ghoul vs Parasyte) 21. Mega Man vs Emerl (Capcom vs Sega) 22. Pain vs Diavolo (Naruto vs Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure) 23. Pit vs Zagreus (Kid Icarus vs Hades) 24. Thanos vs Exdeath (Marvel vs Final Fantasy) 25. Rex vs Sorey (Xenoblade Chronicles vs Tales of Zestiria) 26. Zeus vs Odin (Greek Mythology vs Norse Mythology) 27. Min Min vs Xiangling (ARMS vs Genshin Impact) 28. Vash vs Vincent (Trigun vs Final Fantasy) 29. Aoi Todo vs Tengen Uzui (Jujutsu Kaisen vs Demon Slayer) 30. Goku Black vs Shem-Ha (Dragon Ball vs Symphogear) 31. Zim vs Crypto (Invader Zim vs Destroy All Humans) 32. The Ed’s vs Animaniacs (Cartoon Network vs Warner Bros.) 33. Piccolo vs Magus (Dragon Ball vs Chrono Trigger) 34. Otis vs Shaun (Nickelodeon vs Aardman) 35. Steve vs Akihiko (Tekken vs Persona) 36. Whitebeard vs Escanor (One Piece vs Seven Deadly Sins) And before someone even thinks about putting this on my reply section, the answer is yes, I do know there is a form. Doesn’t mean I can’t also post suggestions.
This matchup would be awesome. This is my first death battle cast I’m actually sitting down to watch, but I think the ideas that you guys bring up for death battle are great
"In terms of the course of war…. It comes down to one move. For one to misread one move means their defeat, doesn’t it…? Will that be you, Senter Armstrong…? It will, however, not be me..."
Armstrong against Funny Valentine? No contest! The Senator wouldn't stand a chance no matter how strong he is. He's not a stand user. Make him fight Prime Minister Shido. They got more in common.
Here's a good idea for a death battle Yang Wenli (Legends of the Galatic heroes) vs Thrawn (Star Wars) At least a giant Fleet battle between the two Yang is good with Hand to hand as well but a strategic fight between the two using their giant fleets of ships would be awesome to watch as well
Question is what fleets do you give them? Are you going to compare SW ships to LotGH ships? Might not even mater who is the better tactician if the ships are too different.
So if Valentine dies, is that just it, or are we allowing alternate Valentines to take his place and Armstrong has to deal with all of that? If it’s the latter then the senator really stands no chance
He wouldn't stand a chance in the first place if he's not a stand user so he couldn't see the Valentine's stand. But Funny Valentine Stan would be with it attack Armstrong without him even seeing it. Also Funny Valentine disability is if he gets caught in between two objects you can disappear within the dimension but also in order to pull things from other dimensions he has to do the same thing
Didnt like this matchup at first due to it being a one-hit done fight, but if you consider armstrongs nanomachines to be millions of separate individual objects, they would most likely never make contact with the specific other universe versions of themselves, meaning the insta kill move on armstrong is void leaving it up to who can fight longer in a battle of attrition
Here is an idea for a Death Battle I had in mind. I know there is a form you can fill out, but I wanted to share this with you all. It is... Cadence from Crypt of the Necrodancer vs. Chai from Hi-Fi Rush. It would be a battle of the rhythm heroes who move to the music. Their connections are... Both are rhythm game protagonists. Both are affected so they have to move to the rhythm of music around them. Both have had this done to them by affecting their hearts in some way (Cadence's heart was removed and Chai's heart fused with his music player) Both have had their hearts affected by the bad guys (Cadence by the Necrodancer and Chai by Kale and the company Kale runs) The way they came to be this way has a contrast of the supernatural and science (Cadence with the Necrodancer and Chai being an experiment) Both have names related to musical things (with Chai being named after a Japanese pop band) Both of them have used stringed instruments as weapons (Cadence with the Golden Lute and Harp and Chai with the guitar he wields) Both are pretty young in terms of age. What do you all think?
So Valentine can pull another Arm Strong into reality, and if the 2 collide they will cease to exist. So the real debate here is (and I can’t believe I’m saying this but):How long can Arm Strong go without touching himself? Oh god that sounds so fucked up out of context Lmao
Pennywise would win probably. Even the ritual of Chüd was barely enough to vanquish it, meanwhile Freddy is weak to fire and being dragged into the real world. This would basically have to amount to “what group of human survivors could initiate a ritual faster”, but going off scale, Pennywise is an interdimensional demon whereas Freddy is just a common demonic spirit.
Here is another list of death battle ideas I really think should be in season 10 Junior xiong from rwby vs big jack Horner Ryuko and satsuki vs Malachite twins Battle force 5 vs storm hawks The Grimm vs the titans Tarzan vs monkey fist Azog vs general grievous Count dooku vs saruman Palpatine vs voldemort Professor Snape vs darth vader Vlad plasmius vs zs'skayr Skulker vs khyber Fright knight vs pumpkinator Mumbo jumb vs freakshow Malware vs technus Ember McClain vs sartana of the dead Khyber vs the huntsman Valerie Grey vs the huntsgirl Pariah dark vs aku Undergrowth vs biollante Storm vs vortex from danny phantom Vilgax vs ridley Gwen Tennyson vs miss Martian Kevin 11 vs absorbing man Johnny 13 vs ghost rider Kitty from danny phantom vs sedusa Box ghost vs toiletnator Lunch lady ghost vs grandma stuffum Penelope spectra vs asajj ventress Max Tennyson vs agent k Charmcaster vs blackfire Room blokno vs nightwing Dr animo vs dnamy Eon vs savitar Walker from danny phantom vs warden drumgoole Clancy from Ben 10 vs tommyrod Six six vs Boba fett Ben 10,000 vs dark danny Jazz Fenton vs dahlia Hawthorne Frostbite vs luong lao shi vs jasmine Lee Hearblast vs mr freeze Wildmutt vs dogpound Xlr8 vs flash Four arms vs general grievous Diamondhead vs rex shard White Pantera vs jack Fenton Wolverine vs El tigre Ghostfreak vs Kamen rider ghost Ripjaws vs fishface Stinkfly vs firefly Grey Matter vs dr diminutive Upgrade va t1000 Kicker from transformers vs dunken from fire breather Puma Loco vs whitebeard Plata peligrosa vs wonder woman Larry the lobster vs crablante Lord boros vs akuma Boros vs turles Bardock vs Minato Gine vs kushina Superion vs jungle pride megazord Menasor vs samurai megazord Mercury black vs shocker Emerald sustrai vs mysterio Hazel rainart vs Rhino Bilbo baggins vs anakin skywalker Luke skywalker vs frodo Frodo vs lief Rick Sanchez vs jimmy neutron Bling bling boy vs lil Gideon Brain freezer from johnny test vs captain cold Beekeeper from johnny test vs max exterminus from totally spies I really think these ideas and the ones from my first list should be used in season 10 to give the season a bang
Taskmaster vs Garou (Marvel vs One Punch Man) | Slapstick vs The Mask (Marvel vs Dark Horse). I'm gonna comment this on every Death Battle video until they make these ideas happen.
Calling Christ’s bones “outside help” is too flimsy. They only exist in this timeline, and they’re fairly within Valentine’s range of influence (ie; USA).
I'm calling it before completing the video i think they're gonna fk this one too, valentine should win in every universe if he didn't, they're too Biased
why? D4C ain't that physically strong and Valentine is just an ordinary human. It's possible for him to win by making armstrong collide with himself and love train is just an instant win button, but without that it's not definite that Valentine wins, in fact i'd lean heavily towards Armstrong.
Saw someone claim on the initial community post the nanites work at “the Planck level”, which is most likely untrue. And even if it were, the idea of Dirty Deeds is that its basically matter vs antimatter; no matter how big the nanites are, they’re going to suffer damages since we’re talking the entirety of interdimensional matter, scale is irrelevant.
The HF Blade is the thing that works at the planck level, we arent sure where the nanomachines scale, but it doesnt really matter, d4c's ability works on object no matter what, and the nanomachines are millions of tiny objects, another armstrongs nanomachines would just bounce off the original armstrongs nanomachines since itd be nigh-impossible for them to all touch their specific other universe self because there are millions and it has to make contact with one specific one, literally a 1/1000000 chance
@@Shanothian oh I know, I just don't think it would even be needed if we do get a Death Battle of it, but it probably would be shown, and then Armstrong is so, so totally doomed
don't forget Senator ate punches like it was nothing from Raiden who can throw metal gears around like it is nothing and even overpowered some of those punches so if funny valentine didn't know about senators strength Senator wins and when he was rapidly punching Raiden he went so fast that it was hard to see
Some part of me feels like pitting someone with powers as straightforward as Armstrong's against any JoJo character that debuted after Part 3 is a bit obvious in the outcome
I think the voting should be more of a numerical system. Each voter on show can cast a vote for say 10% or so each. But the actual percentages from the polls would be their voted totals. This would allow for voters to actually vote for a real option. Let's not even lie that sometimes they vote just to even out the votes to build suspense. The only downside to this is there would almost never be a tiebreaker vote from the guy behind the curtain. But I personally think this would make the community votes mean more overall. Just my opinion. Show is great either way. But I think it would help balance voting a bit more too. Like I said. Just set a value for each person who casts a vote on the show. Could be 10 or 15 or 20 points for each person. I wouldn't go higher than 20 because then it would skew voting to be more in the hands of people on the show. And I think the real goal would be to have it placed in the hands of the masses. The community. I mean it IS called COMMUNITY DEATH BATTLE after all. To reward the live chat viewers maybe make their votes count for double. So whatever the percentages are they get double those points. This also makes closing the gap of the other poll have higher stakes. Idk. I think it would be neat
@@Revshockwave Yeah I know but the flag is probably the most versatile optiln since its small enough to have it in his side always and he just needs to surrounds himself on it
