FURRIES... WE NEED TO TALK... | Internet Historian Failure of Furry Con Reaction 

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Hope you end up watching some "Lets Game it Out". Josh is my favorite chaos gremlin. Been binging your stuff, your content is fantastic.

If you love Internet Historian, then remember that he doesn't just have ONE other channel He has TWO Incognito Mode (Q&As on his main channel videos and other random stuff like "IN THE FIELD") and Storymode (ever want to hear The Internet Historian describe the plot of a video game, including his brand of humor and personal experience playing it?)

@@drthmik In the field is especially good, love his collabs with other people.

I think you need to see Incognito Mode Balloon Boy and the Q&A after.

It basically became the Australia of furry cons, where all the banned ones would go to

was going to comment this exact thing.

So basically there were a good number of shit heads who were looking to specifically fuck up the whole thing for everyone else :(

Remember hearing specifically that Rainfurrest prided itself on never having banned an attendee, so their attempts to keep that up probably played a huge part in their undoing.

​@@nickkelley9139from what I understand from people who were close to the staff is that they did actually ban one guy who was a former staff member. The guy went ballistic and decided to take revenge. Got his posse to destroy the hot tub and fuck with the toilets, throwing diapers on cars and messaging every hotel in west washington so Rainfurest couldnt move.

This right here. The furry conventions *heavily* police bad behavior for this very reason and I cannot believe no one saw this coming when they decided it'd be open to everyone.

Could have been anti furry people as well

@@ero-senninsama1734 a mix of both but mostly people who where already banned from the other cons.

​@@painreaver7291I see. I have been reading comments and havent seent he Q&A video explaining this. I will check it out

@@ero-senninsama1734Furry suits are way too expensive for that.

*hold my kibble

Hold my diaper

Hold my pony jar.

Hold my water bowl

"Howld my bweewr, uwu (shits diaper) ."- Maxey Lightheart the pack alpha furry.

Apparently they didn't check other furcons ban lists and tended to look the other way on lighter misdeeds so the con became a beacon to the weirdos and psychos.

@@mickyflint yep. That's what I was alluding to. The boats that the rejects are taken on are driven by the rejects themselves, cause the island is the only place they could go

​@@wierdgamer3067i think the organizers were afraid to punish people or ban them because they wanted to accept everyone. Not checking ban lists, fair enough, second chances. Not handling with bad behavior at this con, not so fair.

so... Australia?

there is alot of sex drugs abd feces. and STDs SOOOOOOOOOOO many STDs.

There are always good and bad in fandoms. You cant blame all furries for one thing one other furry did.

@@LovableLex WATCH ME BLAME THEM!

@@RadahnCrossSlashCounter Yeesh. Alicia would be disappointed buddy.

@@LovableLexyou said that like she gives a fuck about RU-vid comments

Yeah, no wonder no hotel with convention center are willing to take them after this. Thousands of dollars in damage a day are disaster for business.

Those few extreme, unhinged bad eggs are hated by the furries as well and aren't typically why people hate them. Most anti-furry people hate them for merely existing.

So many L's in her reaction

There's furrys and there is degenerates most of these people were degenerates

Lmao I am not surprised

I believe you, I have a few friends on discord who are furries

I saw how this year's furry con turned out. Massive difference.

No other fandoms act like this.

Yeah the denial is crazy, I've had to deal with Furries myself. Only a small handful are actually decent

Yeah I don't see the point of defending them, sure there must be some nice people among the furry community and I guarantee you their fetishes are probably within acceptable range probably just tame but alas most people in the furry community are way beyond the nasty fetish meter so you can't really expect good people out of the overall furry community, just some, so it's never a matter of people who hate furries when even within their communities they hate each other for their differences, overall it's very toxic probably 10x more toxic than the anime community which probably has some furries in it as well

@@traphimawari7760 I'm gonna be real with you chief, that is straight up not true. The furry community suffers the same thing every other large community does, in that the bigger it is the more assholes it attracts and the louder they tend to be. The MAJORITY of furries are friendly and reasonable people, regardless of whatever their kinks are or aren't. They're not hard to find if you actually engage with the community like any other.

@@Carcharadroid I'm aware furries have real jobs heck how else would they afford their mortgage priced fursuits meaning there are normal society contributing people among them heck there is literally a furry commercial pilot community but even among said communities there are as you mention a lot of bad and loud people and if you say there are a lot of them that means *they* are the majority and like I said there are good people within said community but you overexaggerate when you call them the majority because I don't think I have ever heard of a successful furry convention not to mention most stories that pop out of my recommended are straight up horror stories and crimes committed by furries and its not just a matter of one person doing it since they aren't just a single individual for them to commit said atrocities they would have others supporting them and motivating them to do so who are also part of said community you aren't exactly making a convincing case when you try to paint them in a good light like they are similar to other communities because the anime community is mostly tame heck there are less news of failed anime conventions and if they do it's mostly on the part of the organizers of the event and not the attendees not to mention the anime community has been around for a while longer than most communities that their sheer size would overshadow any terrible event that would happen within the community meanwhile every other day the furry community always has drama that it becomes a main topic for a while meaning despite your claim of them a community thats ever growing they cannot overshadow their more unsavory issues because there are simply too many of them compared to good things they do in the eyes of the public

@@traphimawari7760 Have you considered using punctuation, perhaps? Line breaks maybe?

@@NightKev that sh1ts for white people who love writing essays, I ain't white enough to do that sh1t bruh I'll stick to doing what I do best and if it triggers you then that ain't my problem it's 3am and I can't be bothered to edit sh1t no more I'm going to bed now peace out ✌️

6:04 probably cooling. There are dozens of ways you can cool a fursuit (because a full suit can legit be like wearing shag carpet), so people might’ve been using a no2 cooler. Or maybe they know it’s also a type of painkiller, and were doing it like a inhaled drug.

...because its true? The whole thing got screwed because there were some select people who are banned from furry cons as a whole were allowed in and they fucked the whole thing for everyone else.

The furries themselves will see to that methinks...

Well yes and no. It was a specific furry and his crew, who got pissed off by the con runners for throwing him out one year. He was actually the one accused of trying to make a glory hole, thus his removal. His crew was responsible for the diapers on cars, the loosened toilets and the fucked up filter in the hot tub, and then sent letters to every hotel and convention space in washington. Everything else though was on the attendees. Rainfurest wasnt thought of as the "containment con" for nothing.

"The call is coming from inside the house."

Lol yeah. "theyre precious beans they dont deserve hate"

Basically, the “Project X” of FurCons.

Cope

@@alanhasmemesnope

​@@alanhasmemesCope what?

@@_Trash_Goblin trying to cope with the fact that these furries were just a bunch of idiots who don't know how to act by blaming it on "le vocal minority" scapegoat. It's like saying smash bros cons smelling like BO is because of a few guys who paint the whole community in a bad light, there were multiple people arrested for many different reasons, several different incidents which weren't done by one evil furry-hater who was trying to sabotage the fun of innocent wholesome furry meetups... When someone gets arrested for sexual assault, someone gets arrested for regular assault, NO2 canisters are found littered around, soiled daipers are worn in the halls and thrown around on peoples cars and in the convention halls, gloryholes drilled in bathrooms for quick sex, rooms being hotboxed and hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of damage done to the place you have to admit that maybe, just maybe, the community you hosted is full of druggie sex addicted paraphilic perverts who don't know how to act in public.

Yeah, makes me sad they paint us this was, the whole event was just another massive bad cloud cast over the good people in our community all over again just like the CSI episode.

That and, as other people pointed out, they would ignore the fact that most of these guys were banned from other furry cons, so much that this was the only convention that some these repeat offenders were allowed to attend

The answer is a resounding yes. History has repeatedly shown that some really *open-minded* people got ahead of themselves. *Looks away from John and Robert Kennedy* In all seriousness though, there is a reason gatekeeping should be a thing. By having a revolving door into a wider community, you invite people who may share aspects with that community, but who are despicable and disgusting in their complete makeup. It's like the LGBT community, the video game community (a community I am sometimes ashamed to be a part of), any political community, etc. By leaving the doors open, bad people will mix in with the good. And that is when things can get really bad. Especially if said community is already reviled by the general public.

an open mind is like an open bin Everyone is going to throw their trash in there

It's called the paradox of tolerance. To be tolerant, you cannot accept the intolerant. Which makes you intolerant of the intolerant. Of course this ends up being used in pathetic attempts by bigoted conservatives to be a "gotcha!" when it's anything but. A tolerant community cannot accept the intolerant or the bigoted, or else they will irreparably harm themselves far more than the minor paradox of gatekeepering the intolerant does.

Yeah it's called every liberal college and city. Which now is accepting open anti semitism. Didnt take long for the group calling everyone a nazi to reveal them doing nothing but projection.

I just think dragons are kinda sick

I don't know about the other mental illnesses, but with depression it can sap your willpower to do anything, including basic hygienic tasks.

@@Jakaze_ But somehow you can work enough to yearn 200$ dollars in order to travel all the way to a convention? Depression is not those people's problem.

@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 That could be the case sometimes in all honesty. Mental health issues can vary .

@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 Sorry, just saw this. I agree with you.

Not all cases can be explained with poor Hygiene. Some people sweat more than the average Person, No amount of Deo or showers can prevent a Body with hyperactive sweat glands from sweating. Beside that.... If you smell bad, that can also be related to your genes and diet. Some people can Look like they just jumped out of a refreshing shower and still smell bad. To make it worse... our brain tends to filter our own smell out, so you probably dont even realize that you smell bad. Some diet changes odor, garlic is Infamous for that xD So yeah.... Hygiene is not always the Problem.

That site is a like a septic tank

​@@KaaldojulThe furry community in general is.

@@Nyx_2142 mostly true

What I find weird is that only some fandoms are maligned for bad actors. I've been in some fandoms where there are some horrible people and I don't see people complaining about them.

Well said. It's an unfortunate reality that most people outside of any Fandom or group can't help but see the negative connotations that are perceived. This applies to all levels. Political, religious, ethical, sexual, furries, anime, gaming, etc etc.

It's completely normal to hate degenerates that fetishize animals.

I'm sorry what in Raptor Jesus Christ...?! Wha....I don't get people.

@@FubukiTheIcyKing Yup, so far I don't think the person was identified nor did people know if anything was actually injected, but it could still carry lots of bad stuff

Heyo, I actually know the event you are refering to. Turns out it was a massive misunderstanding. Someone in fursuit bumped into a cosplayer in the back of a rave. The suiter felt something sharp stick them in the dark while the cosplayer was trying to slip out thw door. The suiter thought it was a needle and reported it. After an investigation alongside the local PD, yeah turns out it was just an awkward passing between two costumers in lowlighting in a crowded space with sharp costume bits. The hospital the suiter went to couldnt even find a hole, just a small bruise.

@@28Hazefur oh thank goodness....

@@28Hazefur Ah wow, thank you for letting me know

She still has the Varus videos to watch :3

@@dplocksmith91 what about incognito mode?

@@dplocksmith91 I think he was referring to the "Failed Cons" series of IH videos. So just Dashcon, Rainfurrest, and Fyre Festival.

It's brave for more than just the heat. Hatred towards any sort of alternative lifestyle gets turned up to 11 in Texas and Florida. There are rednecks there who will shoot you for doing anything they disapprove of, and boy howdy do they hate furries.

I'm from the north, I step outside to get my mail in the winter barefoot in jeans and a t-shirt. I couldn't even wear a hoodie in Texas most days. Texas has that angry Super Mario World sun that swoops down at you.

@@Tanerion Cold in Texas is in swings. It's either cold for like a couple of weeks, or it suddenly becomes below 30 with cold snaps. Heat is honestly more consistent it truly is the angry sun.

@@FubukiTheIcyKing I'll always prefer colder weather, you can always put on more clothes but you can only undress so much. My class went on a trip to Finland in 1999 when they recorded their coldest temperatures ever (-60.7f). We went to a sauna, our hair almost insta-froze when we stepped out and you could feel the ice particles in the air cut the inside of your nose and throat while breathing, but I'll still take that over constantly feeling like I'm standing under an open oven.

The ballpit was so strong it made people forget that shit

Hahaha, I remember Las Pegasus. Wasn't that the one where some VAs that were booked got abandoned at the airport?

@@passingrando6457I think so But I think it was just a few bronies who did as well

@@ImmaLittlePip Mind you, the crap that Tara Strong has been up to lately, I'm retroactively happy she got left at the airport. Side note, I'm sure you hear this all the time, but I see you everywhere, falloutpone. Fallout and MLP videos, which makes sense, but everything from Vtubers, to gun tube, to Razorfist iirc. You're a real one with cool and varied interests.

@@passingrando6457OH yeah her and Gray DeElise bullied some poor guy just cause he used Ai in his scooby doo fan film (dude is not some multimillion company he's just a struggling student making a passion project) And thats not even referencing the immigrant she got fired over him not agreeing with her politics (Ironic how she was saying how pro immigration she was)

Some of the comments say he mentions it in his incognito mode channel.

Its a thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Though its vast enough to realize that most people whom are more reserved and sophisticated are often accepting of the fact that many wanna try a douse of escapism. Which is many cases it kinda is. Either way, working in guest services in a big safaripark has proven to me that people, in general, are childish, and there's no fandom that collects them. Me? I just like people to give less of a fuck, so furries, despite being neurodivergent in nature, is a fandom I'm in cause they're allowed to give less of a fuck (provided they aren't allowed to do stupid shit like in RF)

I just think dragons are sick. Other then that I just live a somewhat regular life.

I'd argue being anti-furry is also incredibly childish

If more people knew that the staff turned it into the con for the rejects when they allowed commonly banned furries, you probably wouldn't have to feel as bad.

‘Deviant groups’. Okay, preacher boy.

Furriers are degenerates just accept that

@@mitchhamilton64 Wild animals that can harm people and are not afraid of people are shot. They do this with bears, foxes, pumas, etc.

whats Tanacon?

@@karlwikman3874 RU-vidr got kicked out a vidcon. Said screw it! I'll make my own con with blackjack and hookers!...failure and hilarity ensued.

​@@karlwikman3874 Tana Mongeau. She's an internet influencer of some kind. She tried to make her own Vidcon competitor. I think it was supposed to be happening the same time as Vidcon that year as well. It flopped hard.