When Shia asks "what is your plan?" the perfect deleted scene version is Brad Pitt saying, "I was just fuckin with you boys, come on grab you're guns we're gettin outta here, fuck that shit!"
This is a special film for me because my father served in WWII in the real 2nd Armored Division (82nd Recon. Battalion) under George Patton. He got the full $3 tour from No. Africa and Sicily onto D-Day and then through Holland, Belgium, Battle of the Bulge and into Germany. He passed in 2016 at age 97.
@@vivaan7653 Vivaan, thank you for your nice comment. Yes, he was. One of the highlights of his (and our life) was his singing the National Anthem at age 95 on the 70th anniversary of D-Day before an AZ Diamondbacks game. You can actually see it on RU-vid. Just search his name, Lew Campbell. He nailed it!
@@fidelski2019 I find it kind of funny how German Engineering is supposedly amazing when Tiger tanks broke down all the time because of their shitty engines.
@@fidelski2019 its not some kind of a dick measuring contest dude. It's a fact that Germany had by far the strongest tanks and guns, ateast from early war to 2/3 of the war.
It's not bad, but they made the right choice with the theatrical cut. Everyone arguing and Shia yelling "STOP!" is one of the most powerful parts of the film.
I doubt the director was there, you have to give us good point and not just oh you werent there you dont know shit. Well tell that to great tacticians who just left the academy and kicked ass
@@janys6502 a lot can be learned from listening to Veterans. I’ve spoken to Veterans of D Day, the Philippines, the battle of the bulge, Sicily, etc. They each have their own small account of this massive war, and, while not ALL of this movie is inaccurate (My own great uncle was killed in France by a panzerfaust) a lot of it is just typical Hollywood.
Well, it is a movie, so it's dramatized for the scene, but it's slightly based upon the Audie Murphy incident. Although he did have artillery support too.
There were several scenes (a lot of them pretty gory/gruesome) that were deleted from the released version that would have added significant depth had they been left in.
My grandfather was a B24 liberator bombardier. I miss him, he became a dive instructor and traveled the carribean on adventures. Died from Colan cancer at 65 and still laid blocks every day. Rip papa Greg
Honestly, would have been okay if it was a band of volkssturm. You might expect them to run around like lemmings. But the fact that the movie bigged up the germans as being a veteran SS battalion, no way would the final scene happen. You're right, the tank would be killed almost outright.
Coby Brink-Li Well, not to mention it's 1945, probably out of senior army career officers, and all that's left are political officers, and SS don't get weapons first than the Wehrmacht... Meh... from what I understood.
Yup. Completely made up movies. The tank battles are FAR from how they were during ww2. They also thought it would be realistic to have a battalion of elite soldiers (best soldiers in history) all rush a tank with machine guns.
It makes far more sense why Brad Pitt’s character is the way he is when after you’ve seen the deleted scenes. He got drunk, got in a fight, and drove his girlfriend and brother home. They died from the crash and he survived with those scars to prove it. He was given a choice: prison or the war. When a man like him has seen too much and done too many things wrong he lives to fight hoping he can redeem himself or dying trying.
In another deleted scene it was implied Brad Pitts character was sent to war by a judge to die due to having killed his girlfriend and brother in a drunk driving accident. This video makes more sense when watching all the deleted scenes.
@@cid2852 Totally agree, I loved this movie when it came out and wished it was another hour longer. The only thing I didn't necessarily like is Norman being some type of empath/clairvoyant but the rest of them were gold and added a lot of depth to the characters especially coon-ass.
you better watch the exact scene on youtube whats acutally in the movie, so u can see the different, my english is not good enough to explain all of it. its very simular whats in the actually movie thats right. the camera work is a bit different, the main dialogues are the same, but for example: on this version he said " its god damn ss batallion" two times, and in the movie he said it one time. the young boy is coming over the field to warn the others, in the movie he comes behind the hedge. stuff like this
eraldorh in this version he was much more sympathetic.In the official version it was much more cold and it was relaxed to this version...this one is a bit more panicky and the official version he never actually told the plan on camera.it just said "whats your plan? Go get that dead kraut" then the scene started
After seeing the deleted scene where he confesses the reason why he is in the war, it makes so much sense of why he wanted to stay and fight.... whoever edited this movie should be fired
1234nofear I agree but the most annoying thing is that the whole movie never had a strong background.the deleted scenes shows how the movie could have been different.
That tin can Tami is still in service since there's so many of them left in working condition. The Sherman is just a Chaffee but heavily upgraded. So try to compare it other tanks that are a light/medium mix. Not medium/heavy. Can't rely fairly compare even a Panther to a Sherman since the weight and senior values are closer to a heavy tank. Don't even think America had any heavy tanks that were used in wwii. The kv series, t34 and t34-85 are a better matchup up against a tiger. They were pretty big tanks mounted with a more than efficient main gun to face off against armored vehicles/tanks. Sherman's are used for light tank fights and ground support
This film shows a nastier side to allied troops and for that reason, I really like it! Its nice to see that they were cruel sometimes and not just war heroes. War brings out the best and the worst in people!
@@donarthiazi2443 Compared to the Soviets and the Axis Powers. The US soldier did not many war crimes. My grandmother is from Austria. The US soldiers were pretty nice to the civilians. The Soviets raped a huge amount of women even during the occupation.
@@Teufer2 Compared to the Soviets and Japanese and SS the US soldaten were saints. Small observation aircraft circling Berlin reported incredibly long lines of Soviets standing at buildings. Each _soldier_ waiting his turn to rape the woman inside... young or old. Or it could be a young boy whose throat would be cut when they finally with him. Many were raped until death... and sometimes it didn't stop with death. But we were not innocent. Not by a long shot.
@@marchellochiovelli7259 Bombing of Dresden: Civilian Casualties 25'000 Warsaw Uprising: Civilian Casualties 200'000 The bombing of Dresden is comparible small to the crimes of the Axis and Soviets. The Bombing of Dresden was a huge tragedy. But it pales in size in comparison to the "Nanking Massacre" or "The Siege of Leningrad". Don't tell me a noob. You Noob.
A lot of people saying the German's fought badly. I would agree that plot armor takes into account for most of that expectation. The movie also portrays the Germans as only having 1 box (4 Panzerfaust). Remember the first volley by Fury was to take out the truck transport with all their ammo as it is illustrated. In the movie the one successful Panzerfaust hit was to the left turret ring. Since Fury had already expended all of it ammo and it is possible that Fury dumped most of their fuel, not much would have combusted upon hit by the Panzerfaust. So IMHO with the scope of the movie illustrating sacrifice and grit....The Germans did what they could do when all they really had were a few MG42 and some spit balls. The big question is why would any of the German's after the first volley go anywhere near the hull gunner but I digress. The screenplay also had Fury with too little ammunition for final battle. But in the end, it is just a movie illustrating the horror's of war and fragility of men forced to make impossible choices. Later.
If you saw the deleted scene where Top tells Norman about how the death of his woman and little brother is his fault and thinks his purpose is to die, this scene makes much more sense.
"please just get off the fuckin tank lets get outta here!" man you could hear the raw emotion in his voice, he cant leave his commanding officer but really doesnt wanna die here
For everyone saying this isn't a deleted scene, it is, watch it over again and compare it with the one in the film, similar but the lines are different, they obviously shot this then decided to change it, One thing I noticed for this was that Jon Bernthal never said "probably just a couple bums looking to surrender", he didn't say it here, after it was announced it was an SS battalion, Jon Bernthal throws his tool onto the ground, he doesn't do it here. Just thought I'd clarify, correct me if i'm wrong.
This is an alternate take. The take in the movie was much more in depth and emotion invoking. Rather than looking like an arguing tank crew, the movie version made clear that the crew didn't want to fight and Don understood. In order to keep them alive he was fine with them going into the trees, but the crew wouldn't desert him.
I think this scene, whether realistic or not, is a metaphor for the bravery and sacrifice of soldiers who fought to keep the world free from nazi fascism during WWII.
@@lalocandadelmistero oh,, the whole domino thing has pretty much stopped and even reversed after Glasnost. What's arising out of China is not communism but something anathema. We keep an eye on them but they play the economic game. It's the far right and Nazis that are re surging as of late. They need some attention too. I'm not going to "thrust" you BTW, I don't swing that way.
Yes the tank battle was unrealistic in terms of strategy and maneuvers, but I must say this movie absolutely NAILED the tank's projectile speed and sound. Can't say I've seen any other movie do it better🤔 That instantaneous screech of a round flying by or the sound of a ricochet tank shell spinning off in the distance. The editors of that scene deserve some props👍
I really enjoyed the "slice of life" aspects of it. The details in dialog, and scene of them just riding around and talking. The non actiony bits were fairly interesting.
This is the exact point in the film where it went from enjoyable to laughable.. An entire SS battalion with panzerfausts gets annihilated like mindless sheep. Puhleeeease..
Based on the old Russian proverb......... "We are a tank, if the enemy destroys the tracks, we are artillery, if they destroy the main gun, we are pillbox, if they destroy the machine guns, we are bunker, if they destroy the armor, WE ARE HEROES". The main problem I had with this movie isnt what most critics focus on, but the fact that they'd choose to stay here and fight it out with limited ammunition and options and almost certain death so close to Germany's capitulation.
I would think that the commander's responsibility is the safety of the crew and not the tank. The M4 is expendables, but the crew is not. Knowing that the there's a whole battalion of infantry that is coming to them while having a broken down tank, without infantry support and still insisting on holding the position. Typical hollywood heroism, in real life the commander would have just scuttle the tank, and live to fight another day.
Not in the case that is given in the movie. This SS battalion had slipped through the lines and outflanked the logistical core, they would have swept through the camp and massacred doctors, medics, cooks, and nurses.
You don’t know that, you weren’t there during ww2😂… every person has a different mind set… if a ww2 commander wants to stay with the tank then they stayed…. How do you know they wouldn’t?! Very possible scenario😂…
Exactly. Good comment. It is just silly to suicide to hold that cross road. Let the Germans take it and you'd return with greater force to capture it. Best part is, You don't die in the process.
I use to be a soldier. Sometimes, it's just a habit to keep yourself human. Some guys tried to keep their hair spotless. Other's grew mustaches. I counted steps everywhere I went. To go take a piss it was always 427 steps from my bed.
I'm glad they deleted this. The scene in the film is far superior and handled the gravity of this scene with far more sensitivity and nuance that this scene demanded. This was a key point in the film where they decided to commit suicide together to stop the SS battalion. It was the ultimate test of their bond.
except it's unrealistic as shit. It would take a motorized Waffen-SS battalion approximately 5 minutes to completely neutralize the Sherman tank. They would also only have been able to kill around 2 - 3 waffen SS soldiers. This is a prime example of bad leadership. Nothing more. No wonder ''Wardaddy'' only was promoted to Sgt. after 2 years of intense combat.
Joshua Garner this movie is fiction, this never happened and an ss battalion would of been able to take out the Sherman with two panzerfausts and kept marching and in an earlier scene Fury took a shot from a Tiger that deflected, the problem is the Tiger Tanks 88mm gun would of punched through a Sherman Firefly with ease and killed everyone inside, its a good movie but its historically inaccurate, if it would of been an m26 Pershing it would if been more believable but the Pershing isnt as iconic as the Sherman
blake vogl actually the shot off the tiger could be deflected the tank was at the perfect angle and it does cause a deep gash in the side plus the 88mm does take out the other 3 tanks witch was normally the case 4 Sherman's v 1 tiger year the tiger was a better tank but the Germans made like 500 of them where as the yanks had like 30 thousand Shermans they were just too many for the germans to destroy
A static tank without infantry protection is a dead tank especially considering the Germans would have panzer fausts. They would just have to attack it from the rear.
M4A3 Easy 8 (M4A3E8) The M4A3E8 is one of the most mass-produced modifications of the main U.S. armored vehicle of the World War II period. The tank featured the welded hull and Ford GAA carburetor engine. A total of 11,424 vehicles with the improved HVSS suspension were produced by Fisher Tank Arsenal and Detroit Tank Arsenal from June 1942 through March 1945. The vehicle is also known as M4A3(76)W. It took part in many after-war conflicts up to the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965. Nicknamed as the "Easy-Eight" or "E8", this tank is a quicker, slightly better armored version of the M4 Sherman. It also has an upgraded 76mm gun with an improved rate of fire and better accuracy. Considering all this, the M1A2 should not be overlooked on the upgrade path in comparison to the M1A1 as it really brings out the E8's strengths. Despite the increased armor compared to the M4 Sherman however, the E8 is still a very soft target and will be easily destroyed if it stays exposed to enemy fire. In addition it's twin, the M4A3E2 Sherman Jumbo has thicker armor and a few more hitpoints than the M4A3E8 Sherman, but worse gun handling (dispersion on the move) and gun depression. Finding a balance is a necessity and is excellent practice for the American mediums that are to follow, which all share a similar lack of armor. Its strongest point is its excellent mobility. It accelerates very quickly on all grounds, and loses little energy in turns which makes it an ideal flanking tank. Anyone who underestimates this gem will very soon become a smoking wreck. The M4A3E8 Sherman leads to the M36 Jackson, and the T20.
Sherman tanks were not built for TANK-TO-TANK warfare. They were built for infantry support. The USA wanted to use large TANK KILLERS to eliminate the enemies tanks. A policy often flawed in the chaos of battle. Sad too that of the 30 Sherman tanks meant to float to the beaches of NORMANDY only one made it without sinking and killing the crew. Just think how those missing 29 tanks would have made a difference. Instead of 5,000 dead US soldiers it would have been more like 500 dead.
For what it's worth it, the 76mm gun was a tank killer. With high velocity armor piercing ammunition it could pierce 6" of armor at 600 yards. The frontal armor was 4" thick on a tiger tank. In the scene where they were ambushed be Tiger 131, Fury would have won much sooner that was shown.
In the regular version Pitt doesn't explain the part about playing dead and before that the guys say much less and are more emotional about Pitts decision to stay, It is similar but clearly a different take.
Yeap I had watched this scene too. In my opinion it's not this scene, but the entire last skirmish that needed to be deleted off. Nonsensical imbecile combat tactics by Waffen SS allowed them to last through the night.
This film may have its faults, but the casting was top notch. It’s great to see film makers doing wwi (1917) and wwii movies (Fury, Dunkirk) etc, as our younger generation need to know about what happened.
maybe Mr Pitt just new this was an elite band of monty python ss that simply run into the fire line until night time fell around 40 seconds later.. and talk about giving the panzerfaustes to the alzheimers lads.. apart from that.. pretty realistic that last 30 mins..
@@jonthinks6238 That's your opinion. Murikkkans can all go and die a grisly death in a stupid war that only benefits the wealthy. In fact, I wish they would.
He lost his family the night he was drunk and crashed his truck killing his love Rose and his brother. The tank crew came to be a small family. And he was going to defend the last thing he cared for that wasn't destroyed. Wardaddy didn't want to live. He told the others to leave but they stayed since they felt he was a family member to them.
In reality, while the crews were attached to their rigs, they rolled and fought in whatever was running and available. Takes a fuckton of maintenance to keep those things going.
This is one of my favorite War movies of all time. Doesn't matter if it's believable or not; seems more believable than my great-grandfather fighting thru the entire European theater from Northern Africa, Sicily, and Italy. Storming Omaha Beach, and pushing into Germany. Then transferring to somewhere in the Philippines. Survived the entire War, only to get killed the morning after VJ Day when a fellow GI ran over a landmine. (Seriously he was DNB August 16 1945)
This scene does the war justice because so many times both sides did a small group hold crossroads or lines and towns from larger groups because we are all war hungry and can’t March past a small obstacle that ends up being our downfalls of strength we originally set out with. Multiple times in history have small groups defied the odds and held back the enemy or delayed them in death for more soldiers to sure up the lines.
Ah, germans were not able to destroy a broken tank? Ok then...all i am saying is: *GÜNTHER VIEZENZ* (Single handedly destroyed 21 enemy tanks with hand explosives, had 4 tank destruction badges in gold, 1 in silver)
Generalmajor Trull talks about how the german army is shown to be underappreciated and how the movie glorifies the allies, yet proceeds to talk about how great the German army was. Pfft! What a hypocrite these Nazis worshipers
Generalmajor, ..... OK then.... all I can say is: AUDIE MURPHY. He single handedly repelled numerous repeated attacks on his position by firing his .50 calibre machine gun while standing on a burning tank. His tank was on fire! .... . I don't know why Nazi-philes get a bug up their ass about this movie. All the Americans, except the kid, get killed. The Americans do not win the fire fight at the end. The Americans do not stop or kill off the the whole SS company. The SS do overtake the tank and all the Americans die. Isn't that a happy ending for you wehraboos ?
I have studied n researched world War 2 for ever and this movie and crew just amazes me . Best world War 2 movie I have seen and the Bible Quotes warms my heart
Its the same, but they had just taken the more cleaner and dramatic take, this one right here is like they are rushing and wardaddy was in his improper character.
I would have bounced and go warn HQ more than likely a battalion of SS would roll right over me in my little bunker tank than smash into an unprotected and uninformed support battalion
@@Ghastly_Grinner That's what would have happened. Forward support artillery - which is notably absent in this film - would not have been too far away. Would have greased that whole grid. Film would have been just as good, showing Fury's crew spotting a fire mission while talking some shit and sharing a touch (bottle)
@@Ghastly_Grinner Tanks don't roll without forward support right behind them - especially artillery. Even a platoon for a mission like this, would have had a section of 105mm SP Howitzers covering them - AND air support. There would have also been a company of tank destroyers providing flanking defenses in the area, in case any Tigers show up for supper. Wardaddy would have had radio contact with his artillery and air control - you know, combined arms warfare that the Germans introduced, and the US/British Army perfected - Because everybody wants to make it home when it's over.
I know it's just a movie, but examples like this are nothing more that shear mindless stupidity. Their job was to fight a war, and go home. Yes, there were many many valiant heroics, we salute and honor those that did not come home, but "heroics" like this are needless slaughter and bringing your obligated crew with you is nothing but heartless. Live to fight another day, with reason and intelligence. No wonder a few COs got one in the back.
You don’t understand filming movie distances, it appears to be closer then what you think, but actually it’s so supposed to be farther. Like how he spots them, it cuts to the marching troops, their not close at all… you think that!
@@TheBaBaTV I'm not sure what you mean? It certainly appears that the spotter was only a couple of fields away..and coz he is running back in a state of panic to his buddies, gives the impression the SS are not far behind..then the tank crew have a rather lengthy discussion..followed by a rather lengthy putting together the trap..followed by what seems a long wait for said SS to actually arrive..as the tank crew settle in to a protracted wait it definitely seems to be hours rather that a frantic scramble..I would say the director is using movie techniques that portray a fair amount of time..It is just how it appears to me..btw I love the film especially the Tiger tank battle with the Sherman and the scorpion style manoeuvring..that was brilliant directing and editing
@@cliveedwards2958 As the crow flys and as the direction across the fields portrays it is not that far, but the road that them SS scumbags are on, as with most roads, never follows the crow.
Give the guy a break, he’s been through Hell already, exhausted. It was just the first instinct of a question to ask. How the fuck would you be?? Constantly mentally sharp as a super computer all the damn time??
