Fury: Forced to Execute a Soldier (Brad Pitt, Logan Lerman HD Clip) 

theyre actors man

@@zacharygreen2895 No shit? What's your point?

​@@crimsoncherry3525you wouldnt last a day in this movie set man​

@@jessemedina4482 thats called acting

@@zacharygreen2895 bro no fucking shit it's a movie

That's the thing. Everyone is capable. Norman starts this film as an indealistic young pup. He has a good heart and he sees the futility in war, but at the same time he's completely ignorant to the realities of war. His growth throughout the film is equally tragic and triumphant.

@@jaybeam1466 I understand what you mean, but I disagree. I think there are many people, who would rather die than do the things seen in war. Granted, have I ever been in a war? No, but I know that life is not something for me to take. Though I think this is a topic that is debatable, I just simply don't see how everyone on this God given earth is secretly able to do horrible things, as if you just have to be pushed far enough. That's my take on it. God bless.

I think so too. On top of that it might be when he realizes he is so changed he can't go home, and he does not have a home that is not Fury.

didnt your god make you a born sinner? whats the problem here@@CatThwomper

@@jackl7778 God didn't make me born a sinner, I am born unto adam, therefore I am born unto sin (so it's adams fault). Though I have been reborn into Christ, therefore I am saved. But even though I have been born into sin, that doesn't give me a free ticket to sin.

@@dps2646 because the German soldier that got shot had a US army jacket on. So technically they could shoot him without it being taken as a war crime. They treated that German soldier since according to Geneva convention any prisoner of war has to be treated if able with the same care and standard as your own soldiers. Plus makes less sense to equip an American in German uniform and let a German combat medic treat him.

The German medic treating his troops is a dead giveaway. Edit: That other guy that challenged the comment deleted his comment 😂

@@mikkel066h No it is a war crime since he was still wearing his own uniform under the US jacket.

@@mikkel066h the guy in Furys squad is wearing a German helmet. Should he be killed to? Grady is wearing a Wehrmacht jacket and helmet

​@@MrNewAbortion1 It a technicality. Would red cross or any military official look at this incident and take time to gather enough evidence to make a case that it was a war crime. Likely not since the German was in an American jacket and it would need eye witnesses to testify and a whole lot of other things for this count towards a war crime. Plus matters little that you are wearing the German uniform under the jacket. Tha law protects people that can clearly be identified as one side or the other. “It is especially forbidden … to make improper use … of the national flag or of the military insignia and uniform of the enemy.” and The Geneva convention "Clothing, usually of a specific colour/design, and insignia, worn by members of the same military unit. In international armed conflicts, combatants have an obligation to distinguish themselves from the civilian population and this can be achieved by wearing a uniform. Therefore, members of the armed forces engaged in or preparing an attack without wearing a uniform and/or failing to *carry their arms openly are not entitled to the status of prisoner of war*. The feigning of protected status by wearing the uniforms of the United Nations or of a neutral or other non-belligerent State is prohibited by IHL. A combatant attempting to gather information on the territory of the adverse party while in uniform shall not be considered a spy (and will therefore benefit from prisoner of war status if captured).

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He was such a pathetic disappointment. Great actor, and the real man was great. But the character writing was abhorrent

@@fenrirrising131 He is by far one of the most aggravating characters I’ve ever watched on a big screen

Upham would’ve been better off as a POW, lest he rat, which he probably would’ve… never mind, he’s better off working latrines lol

They would have turned him into a real soldier tbh like they did this guy

Yes, he does have nice hair.

He also has a beautiful mangina.

@@fredhammer6413 🤨

no having a hairdresser in the nearby trailer is divine

Have you seen World War Z? I thought he was advertising hair products throughout the entire movie.

Horrible behavior by a commanding officer. Forcing subordinates to execute prisoners of war was common - by NAZI officers.

Even in the last scene of this clip, when he's telling normal to get something to eat, it feels like he struggles to look Norman in the eye for a few seconds -- after what he just did to him. He really is torn apart about it inside

That's what I don't think people get when they disrespect our military or veterans, their job is to literally get traumatized overseas so we don't live a life of trauma like other countries have to everyday.

@@jordanhester4821 Once upon a time that was true. For the past half-century or so we have been the terrorists

@@jordanhester4821 Exactly. God bless their souls, and I hope that, though they may live this live with trauma's that most of us will hopefully never have to endure, they will live in bliss with the Lord our God in Heaven. God be with them all, and help them through their journeys. God bless.

i dont know man... it's quite mediocre really

@@AremStefaniaK okay

@@fadn4 And how much the inglorious Basterds meant

Morality of War is German started the innocent bloodshed, it is a trophy war that is why Grady is wearing a Wehrmacht jacket and helmet. USA is on the right side of WW2. to do not forget who started WW2

There is difference in for example fighting americans in american uniform which is breaking law of war and messing around with captured/looted/taken german uniform as a battle trophy. Grady didn't break a law. Man its two completely different things

@@NAS_Syberia what do you mean he didn't break a law? He committed a war crime, he executed a POW lmfao. Licking boots doesn't let you rewrite history

@@amorantoboy IM into this shit man, if you Wear opposite side uniform to fool and kill your enemies and you got caught, you dont have right to POW status, read some internet then come back and say sorry that you were wrong

@@NAS_Syberia not really the same thing, using captured equipment is fine almost every army aside from the americans frequently relied on clothing taken from the other side if that guy has no coat and there is a one availiabe to take you take it. the rule your refering to would only be considered violated if they could prove that he was wearing a full or mostly full enemy uniform with no attempt made to remove identifying markings he is still wearing german issued webbing a german helmet and is though its not shown it can be assumed a german issue weapon that would be fine escpially in the prevaling climatic condtions. on the other side what bradd pitts character did here was without dispute a warcrime he killed a un armed clearly unifromed surrended POW without provacation with no extenuating circumstances, he also commited a regular crime in forcing the younger man in particapating if he survived the movie he would most likely have faced a cout martial and depending on judge and if the war was ongoing probally the hangman

That’s odd. Americans didn’t liberate Auschwitz

What did he say about it?

Btw my grandfather served and was in Auschwitz’s as well. He was a guard

@@CollectorChronicles When did he say he was American?

My pap survived Normandy and made it to Germany. I asked my Dad if he thought Pap would talk about the war. Dad said do not ask.

not only that, but he was also spared by a German young man the same age as him, it shows two people with clean conscience from opposite sides, they both didn't want to see anybody suffering, they just wanted the war to end

@@edvinparmeza1298 As it was the end of the war, there's a good possibility that the SS who spares Norman was simply a kid that was plucked from his home and forced into the SS. Sure many of the SS were psychotic fanatics with undying loyalty to Hitler, but the kid may not have wanted to be there any more than Norman did.

@@chrishestand1032 the kid was part of those soldiers or generals and commanders who were fighting just as a duty to their country, they were not part of those psychos who were following the ideology, I think the movie was trying to portray this thing, both sides had people with preserved conscience and innocence like Norman

@@edvinparmeza1298 Could be as well. But I do tend to think many of them just wanted to go home by now. If they still had a home, that is.

@@chrishestand1032 true

really stating the obvious aren't we pal

Wow no shit

I wouldn’t need to be forced to do it like this kid did. I’d be like “any more around I can take out? This is fun”

@@DontDefuse wow so edgy and cool

​@@DontDefuse "It's a hell of a thing killing a man, you take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have." I doubt you'd be so edgy when it came down to it, you'd snivel and back down like all the keyboard warriors.

Also that soldier committed war crimes

​@@gamerstheater1187yes it is, but then again if you're on the winning side it's no longer seen as a war crime unofficially.

Not at all. WAR is getting to him.

He didn't want to have to do that to Norman you could tell it hurt him in a way

How tf you know hos bame

@@EricToTheScionti he's in alot of war movies. Not a crazy well known actor but known none the less.

He has a lot of cameos in movies like Fast and Furious and obviously his dad is Clint​@@EricToTheScionti

he’s so fine

Other countries teach more about the other campaigns but the US primarily focuses on Japan and Germany

Have they seen inglorious basterds

The guy was wearing allied army coat, which means he was masquerading as allied troop, which is espionage which is punished by death.

@@86Corvus -Which means he picked up a US army coat, not that he was pretending to be an allied troop, use your head

@@SStupendous That doesn't matter, wearing enemy uniforms has been a war crime since before the second world war, espionage or not.

@@JosefiStrauss He's wearing a coat my guy... so all those pictures of Entente Soldiers in WW1 wearing captured Stalhelms and Pickelhaubes should be treated as criminals and executing them would be justified? Vietnam veterans who used captured VC guns and clothing should be incarcerated at the least? Come on.

@@SStupendous I'm talking about the laws of war, friend, obviously some soldiers will have fun wearing the uniforms of defeated enemies, but if the enemy caught you with them, they justified shooting you

At least they both used the lord's caliber .45 ACP

*Spears

@@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM spiers*

@@msgtvarela : Oops, lucks we're all wrong, it's *Speirs

thanks for the insight brother!! will definitely give it a look

Propaganda museum

⁠@@mr.smithgnrsmith7808my grandmother went through both Dachau and Auschwitz. Whether or not you believe the media and pictures and documents you’ve seen I can tell you that the stories my grandmother has told me and the pain and emotions on her face and in her body language can’t be made up. You may not believe that the holocaust was real but believe me it was

Propaganda museum

probably the guys not genociding minorities

Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini were in the wrong

​@dasportsfan2122 That doesn't mean executing a man who surrendered is "good".

In war. There is no right. Only the grey mist

@@dereklong2072 Morality during war is a riddle. You have to win to get back to morality.

Killing a prisoner of war is surely forbidden in the US Army as well. But it is not taken that precisely 😉😘

@@aldrikvonkralsteyn8117 he was wearing an us uniform so they technically were allowed to kill him

@@reasonableraisin3366 Like the Vietnamese termites in My Lai, right 🤗😘

You put lots of unnecessary thought into the act of killing an unarmed man

@@GeldtheGelded You want to say the soldier is a combatant and can therefore be shot?! In the German Wehrmacht there was also the service instruction that combatants were to be shot immediately, but this man is marked as a soldier, apart from the coat he wears a German uniform, helmet, belt gear, boots. That doesn't make him a combatant. Action and Reaction. This fantasy film doesn't show me a well-rehearsed military unit, but a mentally ill gang of robbers in a tank, who insult each other racially and incite them to commit crimes. So YES, of course I think about what kind of nonsense was produced and what the message of the film is. It's great when you show your guys from the American armored forces as heroes in such a mentally unstable state. Am I really supposed to think that all tank drivers were such an undisciplined bunch? But the fact is that the American tank crews were not held in high esteem by the infantrymen of the US Army, which is why such mentally ill robber units really do seem to have existed. Many in Germany still remember the crimes and rapes committed by the US armed forces against the civilian population

And just as unrealistic

@@todolphy What was unrealistic about it compared to your experience fighting in WW2?

Fury is much better in my opinion. Before this We Were Soldiers was my favorite war flick

Fury is one of the most bullshit films there is want something kinda realistic watch band of brothers

@@vassowned7768 I would say Jurassic World or any of the Star Wars movies are just as bad.

You shouldn't. If they are anything like Pitt in this movie then they are poor leaders and war criminals.

Glad to see you appreciate the savages who turn children into mentally ill monsters

@@thespokenword6456it’s a war crime to wear the enemy’s uniform bruh, not a war crime to execute someone who does this bro.

@@thespokenword6456 im know nothing about war. but im sure I can't put myself on any moral ground to judge none of this men. Or to believe that morality can be sum up on the laws of war or modern perspective in contrast to what war has done this men

@@thespokenword6456 You mean, they're human?

"Take the shot!"

No he didnt

@@snubbyy wow good argument! And why not? Care to elaborate?

@@schouten841 I'm sure trying to understand and judge the decisions of leadership during war is unfathomable, but to say that he made the wrong choice has plenty of merit. He forced a new recruit to commit a war crime for the sake of "teaching a lesson", I would argue that there are much more ethical ways to get your point across, there's also the aspect that you just made a traumatized killer who now might seek revenge and put everyone in more danger.

@@HoodieProduction true, but in his eyes this was the only solution

Arriva Dare Chi

That's because apparently all you've seen are movies and video games. It's estimated as many as 80 million people died in WWII. Try reading a book. Millions died a much more horrible death than this guy.

@@sidefx996 he specifically said “in a war film” wtf is wrong with you lol. This film surprised me with how cruel the American forces are depicted, its a departure from most black/white morality hollywood depictions of the war. I can’t think of any western films with such grit except maybe that one scene with the Czech defenders surrendering in Saving Private Ryan or the French reprisals at the end of Band of Brothers.

@@pilotwhaleproductions5880 I guess I shouldn't be surprised that kids with cartoons for avatars who have never seen anything besides movies or videos games would be shocked by someone getting shot. In the middle of a war. Go figure. Like most everything else, people's barometer on such things varies based on life experience.

@@sidefx996 your life experience apparently involved no reading comprehension

@@sidefx996 As someone who's spent a lot of time reading stories from and about WW2, this is still one of the cruelest acts I've seen in a war film. You know why? I and the other guy specifically said, WAR FILM. We are not talking about real life. We are not talking about the actual recorded events of history. We are talking about a Hollywood movie. Get that through your noggin and stop being a little wang rod.

He slapped dudes in the hospital with shellshock though, not like this

Well no-one seems to give a shit about the Geneva Convention.

They chose to stand with him, he didn’t make them all stay. He told them to leave, they didn’t want to leave his side. He made his promise and they made their promise to stand until the end with him.

He literally told them to go while he'd stand his ground, idk what part of that seems forced

@@Akodakun It's forced because it's almost impossible to say no to standing by your commander that's probably saved your life dozens of times. I don't think they had a choice but to stay. They would know life would be unbearable had they left him to die.

I don't think that's how it happened I think you need to watch the movie again

@@kylequintanaThey did it out of sheer loyalty not because they really wanted to.

That's a fucking war crime.

​@@marcinsmyczek8583 yepp, but who cared at that time really.

Wrong. There were only ever two stand-out circumstances of this ever happening. In one case, the guy was let go with a slap on the wrist. In the other case, the guy was court marshalled and forfeited his rank and spent time in the brig.

⁠@@TheBuhrewnoShowtrue, one guy was a kid on an mg in one of the camps and he just got pissed and laid out a bunch of dudes. I think he got the slap on the wrist but I’m not sure, I think his co was just like “you can’t do that but yeah”

@@marcinsmyczek8583that was the Meta during WW2

Most Nazis Soldiers were mostly Young Boys And That German soldier Sound like he’s older and he’s just defending his homeland. not All German Soldiers Agreed with With Hitler and All Also German Generals Too. like Ewin Rommel He Rather go with German Empire From WW1. Ewin Rommel Was Forced to Work For Hitler. And Also Just Like the Japanese Tojo Was a Dictator. but Emperor Hirohito was Not Tojo was trying to hide Information From Emperor Hirohito. Tojo Was the one Who Committed War Crimes In East Asia

"I'm not trained to machine-gun dead bodies," Norman says. Pitt's facial expression almost suggest that he's thinking, "none of us were trained to kill, you idiot." Then he forces him to kill a man begging for mercy because its more important to get Norman over that hump, to the point that he is fine with machine-gunning dead (or alive) bodies in order to protect his own comrades.

Giving someone in your squad a good reason to frag you all for being evil pricks sure is a way to get yourself killed too.

It only works when a German CAN kill you. But here he sits and pitifully asks him not to kill. Maybe I misunderstood you or this translator is wrong, but I think you understood me

@@dps2646 But what will the murder of an unarmed, begging for mercy man give. Kill or be killed works when that person actually has a chance to kill you. Forcing a recruit to shoot a person kneeling in front of you is somehow not cool.

Again, not a warcrime, or illegal. Wearing the enemies uniform is Perfidy, and committing perfidy means sacrificing your convention rights.

@@DaftPanda1 The German soldier was wearing a great coat, yet still obviously identifying himself as an enemy combatant to Allied soldiers. He was not a spy, as the German kommandos wearing US uniforms and posing as US MPs during the Ardennes Offensive were. This was a German soldier who found a warm coat to wear. No different than finding a good pair of boots on a dead soldier, friend or enemy, and "liberating" them for your own use. Summarily executing enemy soldiers (and yes, even enemy partisans) who have surrendered is ALWAYS a warcrime if your nation is a signatory to the Geneva Conventions. Let me say it again for people in the back. If you summarily execute ANYONE who has surrendered, you have committed a warcrime. Period, Full stop. This is clearly laid out in the Geneva Conventions.

@@DaftPanda1 Further, even when dealing with soldiers dressed entirely in the uniforms and gear of their enemy (spies,) such the previously mentioned German kommandos, they still retain their convention rights if captured and are (supposed to be) protected from battlefield executions. They are entitled to a military trial and can/will be executed if found guilty. You can never surrender your rights under the Geneva Convention. Your actions during war, if they are criminal, may subject you to a firing squad or hangman's noose, but that is ALWAYS for a military court to decide, not enlisted men or their officers. Again, soldiers cannot just go around administering justice after a battle. That is explicitly a warcrime.

@@DaftPanda1 Funny how westerners always justify their own obnoxious war crimes exactly the same way as the russians do. "it's different when we do it"

And yet most soldiers didn’t care. “You kill him or he kills you, simple math.” The Geneva Convention is some crackpot attempt at making politicians feel more civilized about the disgusting messes they push armies into.

You realize this is fiction, right? That it bears no more resemblance to history than, say, a John Wayne movie?

@@MrSunrise- I'm pretty sure he meant actual ww2 veterans, not the movie.

tranny bathrooms and cultural marxism. nothing like it

They are scum.

At least Millar wasn’t an a**hole who abused his own men or laughed at the sight of death.

Imao

What the character did was allowed in war due to the fact that the enemy soldier had an allied jacked on. His rights are forfeit because of it. It is what it is. Having that said, I will thank no god for Allied victory. While I would not have wanted Germany to prevail... the US and A has completely fucked up the world in the last 80 years following that war. How many countries have they invaded now, again? But these invasions have been justified... until whistleblowers come out and inform us that it was a lie. That fucking country in charge is in no way shape or form an act of God. God abandoned the US a long time ago, at the same time as Capitalism took over a bit too much.

You are a soft man who has never been in a battle for survival... You aren't being asked to "justify" anything. You have no basis for even comprehending war unless you have been in war.

I'm glad that was his experience. I am British, my uncle was in the army in '44-'45, in one of the waves after D-Day (he was slightly too young for D-Day) about the same age as the kid in this clip. He told me only a few things about the war; he said once his section found a small group of German soldiers holed up in a farmhouse. There was a firefight, all the germans but one were killed. The last remaining german was brought out, the sergeant (who had fought through the whole war) told my uncle to shoot him through the head. My uncle could not do it. The sergeant took out his revolver, looked the man in the eyes and shot him through the head at point-blank range without batting an eyelid (a war crime). My uncle later discovered that the sergeant's wife had been killed in the Blitz. Another thing he told me was that some of the retreating germans had a saying: "Surrender to the Americans, they will give you chocolate and treat you well. If you are captured by the British, they will slit your throat and leave you to die" (or, in this case, shoot you through the head). And I can understand why - the Luftwaffe had bombed the shit out of many major British cities (and of course we had bombed the german cities in retalliation), the British soldiers were out for personal revenge.

@@XmisterIS "and shot him through the head at point-blank range without batting an eyelid (a war crime)" That's not a war crime, that's just war.

Hopefully he didn't say what you said he said, and I'll copy and paste what I'm talking about, "this old salty Marine" "They took pride in their presentation as soldiers" Marines NEVER, EVER, EVER call themselves a Soldier, NEVER. And yes, they did curse, where do you think we got the saying, "Cursing like a Sailor" They got drunk in bars and fought each other, they didn't take care of their equipment or themselves, they MIGHT have shaved once a week, but yes, that's how it was back then, he was just trying to blow smoke up your ass.

Sounds like old salty marine was full of shit.

@@armybeef68 That is absolutely a war crime lmfao. Executing a surrendered enemy in the field is evil. Always.

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@@marlonquintana3466 What do you mean?

Like he said, it’s you or him. Pick

A man chooses. A slave obeys.

That's kinda the point, though?

@@benz505 This isn't criticizing execution, it's glorifying it.

@@HTacianas you think the sad music in the background afterwards is glorifying it? How about the fact that it shows Norman himself was spared by an enemy soldier at the end of the film? There’s a reason they did that At best this was shown to be a necessary evil, he was forced to execute a prisoner cause he wasn’t conditioning himself to kill non-prisoners

Well who started this shit?

@@randybonner9870 Probably not the guy who got shot

That's a whole lot of justifying a war crime. He executed a POW without direct command to do so. War is ugly and bleak and they don't need us justifying the evils done, even if they may have been on our sixe

Side note, the enemy soldier was wearing a US Coat "WHERE DID YOU GET THAT COAT BOI?" which is against "war rules". It's the rules of war that aren't written down but you don't break them anyways, simply because it leads to actions like this where you get killed from the enemy side regardless of the Real Rules. Now although "two wrongs don't make a right" is absolutely truth, so is "check yourself before you wreck yourself". Don't care if it's victim blaming or justifying a war crime, because it isn't really relevant, it's still going to happen. Wearing the coat of the person you killed from the enemy, that's going to get you killed upon capture. Simply because the idea that YOU are possibly wearing the coat of a dead comrade that the enemy knows one of YOU killed is going to end up with you in Deadsville. Imagine a Russian soldier today being caught running from the Ukrainian Army in a Ukrainian coat, that is going to be a dead Ivan and nobody is going to go to court over it, and nobody but Russia would convict them, and nobody will cry for the dead.

@@amorantoboy unless you go to war against people you despise with all your being than please don’t throw the war crime BS in the argument. Remember it was a completely different time nazis did so much horrors I think a public execution and a gas chamber is not very comparable in this instance you see the soldiers in the movie they absolutely hate the nazis with every fiber of there being. It’s easy to judge and it’s even more easy to see black and white war nearly erases that line. I will never judge them because I have no right no neither do you unless we saw what those solders see it’s not a valid point

As a vet I agree it’s the reality of the situation

@@DamienDarkside Realistically he could've just found the coat or got it off a soldier, or had it handed to him... has happened in many wars in many notable examples. Same with the firearms. Nobody's killing Vietnam veterans for bringing back captured Vietcong equipment and guns.

He murdered a prisoner of war. Dude deserves to be in prison.

@@CarosAnon yeah, fictional character belongs in fictional prison. Smh

@@CarosAnonlmao front lines anything goes. What are you smoking???

In combat you have 2 choices kill or be killed thats something both my grandfather's told me when they served in Korea and Nam

@@justinthebeau2590 they aren't in combat. They shot an unarmed prisoner of war. Your grandfather would hopefully kick the shit out of you.

Colt New service?

@@malgdrummer M1917 Revolver

ACP is auto.

@@stewartmckeand8953 there was .45 Rimed and .45 auto cartridge pistol. You could use both but the ACP did take a separate plate to hold the rimless cartridge in place

Yeah, moon plate. Don't think the average GI carried them G.

Maybe they were trying to show people that lots of soldiers start off with ideals of service to their country and honor but over time realize it wasn't how they thought it would be. My grandmother would tell me about all the wounds and bullet holes my grandfather got in WW2 and Vietnam and how proud he felt of them, but I'll never know if that was his way of coping with it. My great uncle NEVER liked talking about his time in the army, all he would say is when he dies he wants to be buried with his friends

Yeah but that's all war stories to be honest...people aren't born killing machines.

Executing prisoners of war is a war crime, so this was war crime. It would only be legal if this captured German masqueraded as an American soldier at the time of his capture, but he's just wearing the coat because it's April in Europe so it's cold outside. He wields a German weapon, he wears German equipment above and under the coat - including a helmet, so he isn't pretending to be an American soldier. That means he can't be executed as a sabetour.

I think the true answer might be: this kind of shooting didn't happen all the time, because some officers might have reported it, but if no one caused a fuss, everyone just moved on.

Not everyone just climbed down from Mt Enlightenment like you. And I don't know about you but I see lots of people here passing judgment when all they've probably ever done is "lol" from behind their keyboards.

It was justified cause it was the only way to stop Norman from getting his own people killed

Yeah but 99% of the Axis was terrible, so