Tomo-Zo is a very talented guitarist so she has the luxury of being able to chill and have fun. She seldom shows off. The song is 12 years old when auto tuned vocals were all the rage. Angie was playing it like it was a synth.
"Angie was playing it like it was a synth." - yeah! That's the switch that went on in my head too. Then when Hana harmonizes it magnifies the whole effect. Great observation.
Thanks for checking out more from them! You wouldn't have to worry about a whole ten song set being all auto-tune, it's just an effect they use occasionally rather than something they rely on, the whole point of this song is it was built around the auto-tune effect. Used as an effect I enjoy it, it's just another tool in their belt. The concert this was from IIRC they played at least 20 songs, and this is the only song that had auto-tune as an effect all the way through, one other song was a mix of 50/50 auto-tune not auto tune, all the rest is just normal singing. Check out more of their live stuff, you'll find most doesn't use any vocal effects!
I agree on the autotune. They used it a lot in their older songs, but luckily completely abandoned it nowadays. They even removed it from some songs in their current live performances like Redline. Hope they keep that trend.
They use autotune for the robotic effect (it’s actually either vocoder or autotune).This is a heavier remake of a classic song they had with their original vocalist Armmy. Gacha members are Hana - lead vocals,guitar,drums Angelina 1/3 - lead and backup vocals (pink hair) F Chopper Koga - bass Oreo Reona - keyboards,vocals Tomo-Zo - guitars,vocals (the one with the PRS) yuri - drums,vocals
In this case it's autotune, Gacharic Spin have used vocoders a few times (e.g. Koga's vocals in the prechorus to Kakuhen) but much less commonly than autotune. They'll also use compression/filters/distortion on their vocals occasionally (e.g. verses of Gold Dash, Digital Fiction, etc), and then they use autotune occasionally (e.g. Juicy Beats, Music Battler, Otona Shojo, a few bits in Arabusu no Shojo, Kakuhen, that new song they debuted at Angie's coming of age concert).
It would be more accurate to say that this song has vocoder on the vocals rather than auto tune… Armmy had an excellent voice and she sang lost angel with auto tune. The next couple of years had a fair number of modified lyrics but still less than 10%. Also keep in mind that the vast majority of songs were written by Hana who also sang lead on most of them and though she’s never claimed to have perfect pitch there are few videos were I’d assume she does… Check out her kitchen version of smells like teen spirit where she creating musical instruments out of kitchen supplies and tuning them by ear. I certainly couldn’t do that.. with a piano or guitar or tuning harp. But tuning a ruler by ear. All this music everyone love so much was written by Hana and on a few songs, especially the more electronic ones, she felt like including the electronics of a vocoder. One last thing…though it’s difficult for a reactor to do so, you really should listen to the original before reacting to the live version. Most of the GS fans have heard the studio version hundreds of times before listening to a live version. When they get rather creative on a live and o a bit off the deep end for the casual listener the hard fans just see it as bit of a tweek to an already great song. Anywsy thanks for an intelligent reaction and thanks for getting their name right..makes you a 1%er…
This song is autotune, not vocoder. Gacharic Spin don't have any "vocoder first" songs, only very occasional use of it, e.g. Koga's pre-chorus' on Kakuhen. I agree with everything else you say!
@@nanakakitano9724 I stand corrected…was just reacting to people who think you’re actually fixing a voice rather than creating a certain sound. Angie is really rocking this lead…
They use autotune or vocoders on some of their (older) songs for effect. This is one of them, it's actually the first song of their first (2011) album. They certainly don't need it to sing in tune and don't use it for every song in a live show, it's purely for effect. I personally am not a huge fan of processed vocals either although I find it more bearable than how PassCode uses it for example. I personally can't finish a song by PassCode, but the way they use synths doesn't help with that. That being said, I am not the biggest fan of this song myself even though I can tolerate it. I would say that they use processed vocals sporadically until at least their 2018 album, but certainly not on all songs. And there are some songs that use these type of effects that I actually quite like nowadays. But it was a hard sell for me in the beginning and it is one of the reasons why they didn't completely click with me at first when I was first checking them out (with the exception of MindSet which clicked with me immediately). It is their live shows/stage presence that won me over at first even though a lot of their earlier songs are still my least favourite.
I don't always like autotune, but it works for me in this song. If anything, it's heavier in the studio version. : ) Of course everyone involved can actually sing without it. Anyway, how cute is Angie in furisode? (long sleeved kimono). The traditional age of adulthood in Japan in 20, and she's celebrating that milestone in the appropriate outfit.
This is not Autotune - this is a Vocoder effect - evidently this was a big rage in most of their older tunes - they pay homage to their deceased singer Armmy by still using it
I agree that the autotune is used too much for me. I know they were using it intentionally, but it's not working for me. Fantastic band otherwise, and I believe Oreo, the synth player, has a solo show coming up.
@@xsundayxcore6137 I disagree, but that's obviously personal preference. I can stand some processed vocals in very specific genres or bands (mainly electronic music), but rock and metal bands are usually not in there for me. The only exception I can think of are psychedelic/space rock bands like Ozric Tentacles because their music is very close to the music of psychedelic electronic groups like Shpongle just with added guitars and I think it works for the psychedelic nature of their music. And even then, I generally don't like vocoder and autotune as effects. That being said, I think it is ok in this song even though I wish they wouldn't use them they at least are obvious about it and I don't hear autotune or pitch correction on all vocals on their albums. At least 2 new albums by other Japanese bands come to mind (Hagane and Polkadot Stingray) where they appear to use pitch correction on most of the vocals or have a doubling vocal with pitch correction running behind it and it bothers me to no end. It's like an extra synth is a backup vocalist and it sounds extremely fake and robotic to me. It completely detracts me from the album and makes me enjoy it less, especially on the Hagane album which is produced very weird. The thing that bothers me the most is that I don't think the vocalists in question need it.
@@MaartenT No it's 100% for effect. I used to be very anti processed vocals, but I actually really like it for certain songs with GS - especially Kakhuen
@@homegnome2429 I know that's true for Gacharic Spin especially since they just roll with mistakes or problems, it's why I probably am still ok with it after getting used to it. And yes, I enjoy it in some of their songs as well, this one is just not my favourite. I still don't like the sound of vocoder and autotune though. But like I said in my other comment: I can stand this and listen to this without too much trouble. I sometimes just can't finish songs of bands who use these effects. PassCode is a good example, at least the couple of parts I have heard and my guess is they mainly use it for effect as well. In the case of Hagane, I think she might need it for higher notes (not sure), because it is the most pronounced on the higher notes and they don't bother with it on lower notes on their new album, but she doesn't need to go so insanely high. For Polkadot Stingray I believe I heard I throughout but I have only listened to that album once, so I don't remember. I just know I noticed the backing synth sounding vocals, just the same sound as with the Hagane album. I honestly don't understand why they think that sounds good. Have some faith in your vocalists, I am sure they can do without that stuff. If it's used purely for effect thats fine for me as long as it's not constantly used (again, looking at you PassCode).
this is an older song in which at that point in time they did alot of electronic sounding songs . and that "autotune" was used alot just as an effect for the song
About the auto-tune. It is always used on this song as an effect. To me it is almost an issue that Angie is to good of a singer that they auto-tune effect isn't as over the top as when Hana sings. I'm pretty sure that is the first time in my life I've said that it is a problem a singer is too god att keeping pitch. And before the comments comes, yes Hana is a great singer.
The band's name comes from the Gachapon machines they have all over Japan they're much like the machines in America where you put your money in and you spend the crank and you get a little plastic bubble thing with a toy or folded piece of paper with a press on tattoo in it only they're much bigger in Japan and cost about 1 to 4 yen and they make this loud cranking noise when you spin the knob and that was how they came up with the name Gacharic spin it's totally made up I used to try and Google it and would find nothing pretty cool
