I was allowed to watch that movie in the cinema for my 10th birthday in 1980, followed by my first visit to a chinese restaurant. Thanks, mom, I will never forget that day.
My husband and I were very, very happy, and had just moved into our first house .. he had bought some new memory for his Apple II computer.. maybe 57 K ??? and I had it in my purse.
I can see some folks thinking this version is "less exciting" than the Jackson version, but honestly there's something so subtle and charming about the delivery here.
@joeswanson5175 absolutely not at all. I'm not saying this version cannot be appreciated but Tolkien didn't envision Galadriel twirling her dress and sounding like a Disney princess when he wrote that line
@@replynotificationsdisabledwell, the issue would be how everyone else reacts to staring directly at the one ring. When everyone else is tempted, they are visibly shaken. They feel a darkness cloud their mind. They feel the weight of the world on their shoulders and a pull stronger than gravity itself. For her to have absolutely no visual negative reaction while dancing and speaking calmly betrays how literally everyone else reacts to the ring's presence. It makes it feel like less of a "test". Jackson wanted the audience to feel the burden of the choice, how difficult it was for Galadriel to make, and how relieved she was to be able to resist it. I think Tolkien painted that picture as well in his writing.
Hahahaha dude when i was reading this part i thought: "if this shit was happening somehow in real life that means they'd probably be taking LSD or something" and they show trippy lsd visuals on this movie hahaha i guess i wasn't the only one.
While Cate is Galadriel, I love this version because she seems so warm and gentle, and you hear her talk of the great power, that all will love her and dispair. It's very multidimensional
@Jack Sparrow you're right Captain Jack Sparrow glad you're alone rings of power is the strongest and most amazingest woman ever she's even stronger more amazing than Rey and it's a accomplishment
I think a lot of people don't realize that one can love both the Bakshi and the Jackson versions, because they're both the same character! It just happens that each production decided to show a somewhat different perspective on her, like two people seeing the same person from a different part of the room.
saintfrancissquare Galadriel is not meant to be motherly or warm. Most elves aren't. She's a Noldorin elf and she's been exiled from her family for her rebellion against the Valar. Most of her kin are gone now and she wants to be with her daughter Celebrian, incidentally Elrond's wife, who is across the sea. Edit: she’s also Vanyar through her paternal grandmother Indis and Teleri through her mother Eärwen
Why a fierce elf should always act brutally ? Just take it as subtle as it is. She is strong and noble. Enough to master her very deep ambition. Actually I found the scene quite frightening, even I would agree it is a bit too light. Blonde and beautiful women though... kind and chaotic.
Iván Dropshipper México This crap forgetable movie, among many others is a greater accomplishments than anything you'll ever do. Because of Bakshi, televised animation started being taken seriously and got back on it's feet after the 2 worst decades of tv animation
I love both versions of Galadriel. It really feels like Cate Blanchett's and Annette Crosbie's performances are two sides of the same coin. Each one leaning harder on a different aspect of her character.
Yeah, both are valid interpretations of the dialogue and it's neat to have both to compare and see how the same book can be adapted to seem radically different.
I don't get why people here are saying this scene is closer to what Tolkien wrote. Heres the quote from the book: "She lifted up her hand and from the ring that she wore there issued a great light that illuminated her alone and left all else dark. She stood before Frodo seeming now tall beyond measurement, and beautiful beyond enduring, terrible and worshipful" She's supposed to seem beautiful, powerful and at the same time frightening. The PJ movie is a closer interpretation.
Jackson version is way over the top. Way too much CGI. This one on the other hand have no drama in it whatsoever. She speaks like she is talking about sunday shopping.
Double DD How is cgi monster face beautiful? That shit's childhood trauma material. PJ is a man who loves overt the top, balls to the walls excess, he sure as hell ain't closer to the book with this scene
I'm pretty sure that isn't describing a literal physical change in her though. Just a change in how Frodo and Sam are seeing her. I think this scene captures the spirit and tone that Tolkien was trying to convey a little better.
Definitely Jackson's depiction of her is not one of beauty although he got the idea of communicating power and Terror down pretty well. I think it's just two different styles of trying to describe the situation.
Closer to the book and just better overall. I never would've remembered this cartoon scene, but the PJ version was memorable as hell before I even understood what was happening.
As opposed to people saying Galadriel sounds flippant, I would say you can hear some coldness and bitterness creep into her voice when she describes her vision of the terrible power she would wield, and her laugh is the laugh of a woman who has struggled with the choice to give up all she loves to help defeat evil. It's like what I imagine a long recovered alcoholic might sound like if offered a shot by a youngin at a bar. Idk I wish people wouldn't pit Bakshi's and Jackson's art against one another: they are both masterpieces in their own right.
I don't hate Jackson's take, in fact it was my introduction to Tolkien. But he is not above criticism and his choice was very Zack Snyderish. Have you ever read Frank Miller's 300? That infamous scene from the movie "Madness? This is Sparta..." played out way more calmly, Leonidas almost gently shoves him into the pit. It is casual, matter of fact, almost chilling. It tells you that for the Spartans this is Tuesday and killing to them is like eating your breakfast. No great pleasure in it but there is no taboo attached to it either. Unlike Jackson there is a visual reference in that case, but it is the same nonsense. We can't have it be calm and nuanced, we gotta have Leo scream in this Persian's face and drop kick him which paints a very different picture.
I like Peter Jackson / Cate Blanchett's Galadriel in general, but I think this scene is a far truer adaptation because of the laughter and general tone. Yes, addiction is a good comparison - she has already struggled long with temptation and expected that someday she would be sorely tested. She wasn't in much danger of trying to seize the Ring by force like Boromir, but now she could just take it without even having to do any evil! I agree it's a mistake to hear her as flippant. It's a dark humor cutting through underlying dread. I hear her laugh as a mixture of surprise, relief, and warmth for Frodo. Genuine surprise at Frodo's level of innocence. Relief, because he has set her with an even harder temptation than she expected, but one which is, ironically, made easier to resist by its very brazenness and Frodo's very innocence. Galadriel knows full well she would be corrupted by the Ring despite her best intentions, yet Frodo idealizes her and believes she could be trusted with that kind of power. I've always read Galadriel's speech as, in part, explaining to him just how wrong he is. And I think she is glad, because Frodo's heart is actually purer than her own and his example makes it easier for her to accept a bitter fate for herself and her people - accept that the price is worth it to do right by the goodness in herself and the world at large. In a perfect world we could have had a film Galadriel who is mirthful AND appears as a terrible goddess, but alas. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@girlbuu9403 There's a strange eeriness to when you speak of something so ghastly and horrible with a calm demeanor. You sound confident for you can say it without so much as wincing or raising your voice. What sounds more intimidating than a guy softly saying. "This is Sparta." As he throws you to your doom, or the man who yells it and kicks you? In a way, you expect the angry approach's attack whereas the calm man is unpredictable. In this animated version; Galadriel is whimsical, as if she's danced with this temptation thrice over. She knows -exactly- what she'd do with the power so she knowingly rejects the offer from Frodo. She paints this illustrious idea of what she'd do with the One Ring if she had its power and we can see Frodo and Samwise despair at the idea. She knows the price of evil and rejects it.
Something that I think is explained more in the Bakshi film is why the Elves are leaving for the Grey Heavens in the west. 1:49 "If the One Ring is destroyed, all we built with the three rings will fade. Time will come here, and Lothlorian will fade. You are the foot step of doom to us, Frodo". In the Peter Jackson films, they all say it once, near the end of the series. Most of the time, all that's explained in the Jackson films is "The time of the Elves is over."
Yeah, actually, all of Tolkien's legendarium is kinda connected to the elves, because they're remnants of the Ancient Days. With the last elven ship to the West, the story of the ancient days that formed Middle Earth ends, leaving Arda to the mortals forever.
Elves in Middle Earth are in sadness and in grief. Because they're immortal but their world is not. Everything they build or grow comes to an end or die and they live on. That's why they leave for Aman. The time is restricted there. It is slow.
I actually think it would have been awesome if the end of the rings had also brought the end of the elves immortality and they all would have aged and died fading into the wind like Melisandre, only to be a distant memory. Arwen escaping this fate by already choosing a mortal life. And before anyone rains the fires of Mordor down on my head yes, I know that the elves were immortal before the rings were made I was just stating what I thought an interesting ending it could have been.
@@shawnybullard862 fun fact: Elrond / Arwen's family is the only elven family that can choose whether to stay immortal or mortal. If this story happened, say to Legolas and a female human ( which it never would, but just as an example), he wouldnt be able to choose mortality, but all his offspring would be mortal. Arwen's and Aragorn's lines are of the same ancestry, and his half-elvish ancestors chose mortality/men, while Arwen's chose immortality/ elvish existense. Otherwise elves are doomed with immortality, they exist as long as the world does, even if they die their "spirit" lives on.
Men: Hey um could you maybe wait until the ultimate evil corruption ring has been destroyed first? Would be kinda awkward if you all buggered off and Sauron took over, just sayin
Her “I passed the test” line here feels more “I’ve known that I could resist for a long time. I’ve thought about it so much that now, it’s trivial.” I think that’s as valid an interpretation as “This is my greatest wish, I could take the Ring and conquer all who stand before me. But I must try to resist even as a I terrify this poor soul.”
Galadriel has always aspired to... not power, but leadership in Valinor and thought she could acheive it in Middle-Earth. To rule was always her desire. When Frodo offered her the One Ring, she realized her folly and realized that it was an empty cause. This is why she says "I wish diminish and go West and remain Galadriel". She has given up seeking leadership or rule in Middle-Earth and just wants to go home.
2:05 I feel like this is the one fleeting moment where she feels the temptation to take it, just that subtle widening of her eyes as Frodo offers her the ring. The speech that follows is where she has already realised that she has passed the test, and won’t take it after all, hence why she seems so light hearted during the delivery. Enchanting performance by the voice actress, and equally entrancing animation.
Gabri'el Alexander thats because its traced over live action footage, frame by frame. Its a cheap form of animation that in my opinion is ugly and should be put to rest
revilo_moore Actually, it's not called tracing, it's rotoscoping and it is definitely not cheap, neither does it take little time. As a matter of fact, a lot of Disney's classics used it and many other great companies as well. And it has been put to rest, except a couple of movies, nobody's been using it for decades, insted they use a very similar method with 3D models, that's more manageable and cheaper.
Look up Fire and Ice by Bakshi and Frazetta(or Ice and Fire, I can't remember which it is,offhand). The entire film is done this way and is absolutely GORGEOUS!
I kinda like it, but it sounds arkward. I also agree with Jackson, there's just not enough impending doom in this version. Like, when she said those things, everything thing else but her should darken just a bit, making her light hearten comment about becoming a dark lord a lot more disturbing.
I agree with you Solitude. A middle-ground would have been best. Your idea, of all but her darkening, would be great. Fitting analogy. She would be even more splendid with the ring, at the expense of all else. Ultimately she would mesmerize herself in her own vanity and vainglory, consuming all for herself and ignoring all responsibility. Sauron, too, must have been a splendid sight when not clad for war. But this kind of subtlety isn't what gets the money.
I actually love how jokingly she seems to refer to the rings power. As though it is of no consequence to her. This makes her far more confident and utilitarian in that regard.
@@tsemiu That’s absolutely true. The main reason she even set sail to Middle-Earth along with her Noldorin kin was because she wanted to have some sort of a kingdom of her own, it’s kind of childish on her part if you think about it especially considering the fact that the Valar were really pissed off at her and the rest of the Noldors who rebelled that they literally forbad her from ever returning to Valinor in the West, the ban set upon her went on for thousands of years until when she was ultimately forgiven by the Valar because she not only worked against Sauron in many ways but also refused the One Ring when Frodo offered it to her. I feel like Galadriel, independent and fairly powerful as she is, has always liked power and being in control, no wonder she was given Nenya, the Ring of Adamant/Water with which she has strengthened and sustained her land of Lothlórien for so long.
@@Rotisiv Exactly. When she says, "I will diminish and go into the West and remain Galadriel", that's when she realizes her desire was folly, and she just realizes now it's okay to just go back home and do something else. Frodo literally gave her what she truly wanted, but that gave her insight.
That seems a better casting to me. Ancient, yet ageless. Eternally youthful, yet as old as the hills. Galadriel should speak as someone who has been around for a long, long time.
@@dabiboi6458 I'm well aware of that... I have Silmarillion, she a daughter of the 1st generation of the Elves, so of the 2nd generation herself. But years themselves don't apply the same as if we would estimate people. We better measure the voice to the liveliness she or he has - like the oldness of our voice comes also from the tiring of our body. As it is told in this Tolkien's world that the Elves stay 1000s of years looking like a human in their 20-40s, the voice should be accordingly - or according to the Basic difference of an adult Elf and a Human, as Tolkien described the Elves having more musical and vibrant voice than people. I'm just thinking how the voice fits the character we see - and even more I was just comparing it too the one in the movie.
I will always love this movie. I watched at 14 in my english class and even if I didnt understood half of it moved me so much that i searched for the book and read it. That first time was like magic, discovering a new world and its wonders. Truly an unforgettable experience. So this movie will always have a place in my heart.
The actress voicing Galadriel here is well-known in England for role on the British comedy, One Foot in the Grave. As I watched this clip, I was trying to remember where I know that voice and when I did some research and saw her face, I knew where I've heard her voice. She's amazing!
She is also wonderful as Cinderella’s Fairy Godmother in The Slipper and the Rose .. when I watched this clip it took me a few seconds too to think .. oh yeah, it IS her 👍🏼
I only vaguely remembered watching this movie as a kid... But when I did, I was captured by this scene. It stuck in my mind because of how beautiful the backgrounds looked with the characters. It's like they're floating through space,with a fountain of white glass between them.
My late brother took me and my best friend to see this in Toronto at the University Theatre, which no longer exists. The place was packed...and enthusiastic. I hold the memories very close.
As much as I dearly love the Peter Jackson films and Cate Blanchett in general, I've always preferred Bakshi's take on Galadriel. I know we all have quibbles about which version of this particular scene is more "accurate," but the thing that always stands out is that THIS is the Galadriel and Lothlorian I would personally find difficult to leave. There's an aching quality to their beauty that preserves their alien nature while drawing us in - it makes me understand Gimli perfectly when he says: "Torment in the dark was the danger that I feared, and it did not hold me back. But I would not have come, had I known the danger of light and joy. Now I have taken my worst wound in this parting, even if I were to go this night straight to the Dark Lord. Alas for Gimli son of Glóin!" Tolkien's elves are difficult to get exactly right, not least because we have nearly 70 year's worth of additional fantasy literature that's muddied the water since LOTR was originally published. They're meant to be strange, alien, and a little aloof, but also beautiful, cheerful, and generous. Jackson tips the needle a little too far towards the former and Rankin/Bass swings a little too much toward the latter, but Bakshi manages to find a pretty good balance. It's really a shame he didn't get to tell the whole story.
Your Gimli quote is one of my favorite passages in LOTR. And Bakshi’s Galadriel is closest to the Galadriel I envisioned when I first read it so many years ago, before seeing any other impressions.
In the books, Sam notes that Galadriel is queenly, unreachable as any elf, and a laughing 'merry lass.' You never get that last from the Peter Jackson films. In a world where everything changes except the elves, I think they'd have to have a sense of humor just to stay sane. Annette Crosbie's voice is exquisite, beautiful here.
This is one of the few movies my dad enjoying. At least modern day. I wonder if the reason why is because he watched the cartoon version as a child. Didn’t even know this animation existed. Very touching. This animation is more beautiful then any of the modern day things we have. Love you Dad
In this version i can actually understand what galadriel is saying when she was tested. lol. The animation is so lifelike and masterful , amazing and beautiful!!! todays hand drawn animation has nothing on this(Not including cgi graphics of course lol.).
For anyone who's curious, the woman playing the voice of Galadriel is Annette Crosbie, who is best known for her role as Margaret Meldrew in "One Foot in the Grave"
It's so strange watching this in comparison to Cate Blanchett's performance in LOTR. I think I lean more towards Blanchett's version just because of how well she conveys her aged wisdom and the weight of her power, plus the dark edge to her character.
@@Losrandir After living for thousands of years one can understand not caring for other feelings anymore. I mean by now she embraces words shall never hurt me or you
I loved this version of LOTR. I wish so much a studio would pick it up and finish it, the same way they did it with this one. Rotoscoping and all. The rotoscoping is criticized but I love the look.
Galadriel here looks like a princess out of a Disney film, and her sweet demeanor is like a fairy godmother or Glinda from Oz. Whereas Cate's Galadriel is ethereal but mysterious, untrusting, and dare I say almost "dark" shaped by thousands of years of seeing both good and evil.
It’s actually laziness. It’s called rotoscoping. It’s literally sketched over film recordings of live actors, which is why it’s so very not-animated-looking in the movements
@@cosmictreason2242 So was Disney's Snow White, the human characters in particular. Let people like what they like, it doesn't hurt you any. There isn't a wrong way to make art, nor is the amount of effort it took to make equal to its value.
This Galadriel just radiates motherly love, its not bad but neither is just better than Cate's Blanchett's Galadriel, they are both different ways of depicting Galadriel, one is mysterious and gracefull, this one is warmth and as I already said, has that motherly love tone to her, both are just beautifull depictions of our Lady of the Galadhrim.
For this scene, I honestly think th Peter Jackson version is more... Accurate... The way Galadriel realise what she can gain if she take the ring, what she thinks she can do with it, and then the realisation that it was a "test" of her resolve against temptation of power. You just don't really get that in this version...
@@tiaaaron3278 But she was meant to be scarily beautiful, not turn into a seaweed zombie. Something like looking at God because she is so powerful and amazing and wise and old is what it’s like in the books
Its easy to forget how beautiful Ralph Bakshi's version was at its best moments like this. The poor quality of tha later parts stick in the memory more
I absolutely loved this version from when I first saw it in the late 70's...in the early 80's I had it on VHS and basically wore out the cassette and at that time I could recite the whole thing from beginning to end! Ralph Bakshi version will live in my heart forever.
Notice that this is, in fact, arguably the single most impressive thing ever done by a mortal in the history of Middle-Earth. We're told in the Unfinished Tales that "Galadriel was the greatest of the Noldor, except Fëanor maybe," and if you haven't read the Silmarillion suffice it to say that Fëanor sets a very, very, high bar. But he NEVER would have resisted; for a being of that power, the pull of the Ring must have been unimaginable. In Tolkien's legendarium, what you're seeing is a titanic struggle. The best thing is, this is probably how it would've gone down. A few seconds of cruelty, majesty, and darkness, then wistfulness and relief, all so subtle and implicit that to a hobbit it would look almost playful.
I dont see Feanor as great. Yes his skills were ummatched in creating extraordinary objects, but he was just a greedy bastard who orchestrates genocide, betrayed family, destoryed other peoples great art and then basically cursed his seven sons, leading to numerous wars and destruction of a large chunk of Arda. If anything, I see Earendil as the greatest Elf, imho.
Agree that it was an impressive act of will; Disagree with calling Galadriel "mortal" as Tolkien's elves, while not eternal beings on par with the Ainur, are considered "immortal" as they pretty much only die if killed in battle or in other very rare circumstances. That's why they can go to the Undying Lands, unlike the race of Men (though men's souls leave Arda, presumably to be with Eru Ilúvatar).
@steelhound duncan Adobe Animate, ToonBoom, Anime Studio, and all and every animation software that there is, and will be; that allow for faster, cheaper, and worse-looking computer generated/assisted animation. There are already full animes and OVAs made completely in 3d. Drawing shit is a thing from the past.
Even Galadriel knew she had a chance to be corrupted by the one ring and take the place of the Dark Lord as a all powerful ruler, luckyly she is abe to see this beforehand. I dont know if it was humilty or anything but that makes her one of my favorite characters of J.R.R Tolkien's universe.
Fio Mo it's why I HATED the way Jackson portrayed Faramir. The dude laughs at the ring because it's promising him shit he doesn't want at all. He was one of the few (if only) humans that was completely incorruptible by it.
Fio Mo it really does show wisdom how she knows, she is just as likely a target as anyone else. She had the ability to know she is no different than the rest. She knows it would corrupt her as well. Yet, in realizing this and denying the ring she proves she is different.
I like how in Jackson’s film she goes all crazy when Frodo offers her the ring. But here she just laughs it off like ‘ah that’s cute. But no that thing is kinda dangerous so maybe keep it away from me.’
wow this is such a different take yet somehow just as appropriate, I only wish the tensions increased a little more during Galadriel's speech like the Cate Blanchett version. I am not sure the "And I came to test your heart" could have been any more perfect!
“Do not think that only by singing amid the trees, nor even by the slender arrows of elven-bows, is this land of Lothlorien maintained and defended against its Enemy.”
