Nope...you lot simply miss the point The moment you saw that size difference, you should easily have been able to tell that "ohh, that's why" You cannot claim that "this should've been the ZF6" whilst also ignoring the literal fact that the little size increments from the older folds to the 6 have been a massive point of debate. You cannot have it both ways....This mental fallacy you guys push, just can't work. This would be the biggest year difference, and the smaller ones already caused a lot of debating. Testing the market this way, is simply a brilliant move. They'll probably have some customer surveys as well in stores that have this, back in Korea. 200mp can't exist due to physical space restrictions. Increase in size will cause issues, what to do?? Test the market. There's a reason they actually sell the products and you guys with your "amazing advices" every year, still haven't been able to get some company to blow up cuz the suggestions are sooooo good. This is akin to the Note Edge Test and the Galaxy Alpha Test. Solid move
They knew they couldn't compete in the Chinese market against Huawei. Thank God I didn't buy it and I know someone who lives in China. Still don't have a release date for China but at least we know it's coming.
Explaining the design changes with paper cutouts is quite a good idea, that demonstration really made up for the lack of the device itself in this video.
4:48 " that's probably why it's not launching everywhere." It's not launching everywhere because there's no real competition on foldables except in China and Korea. Samsung doesn't need to have an SE in the US because no other manufacturer sells one that can compete with Samsung, at least via regular retail outlets.
I wouldn't mind if this evolves into the Fold7, but ONLY if they hold the line on price. This was designed to counter the Chinese fascination with thinness everybody seems to think as "innovative" right now. Ok, you got a thin Z Fold, which can no longer house an internal S pen. Hope you "thin" fans are happy. 😂
No they need to put a bit more into fold 7. Minor, like gorilla victus, antiglare and less hinge crease. Better battery, 5000mah, would do the trick for fold 7
The thinner, lighter and closer it feels to a regular phone, the more comfortable and ordinary it feels. Funny how Samsung has only realised this now from lower sales in China, which is why they probably just released the Special Edition. I'd rather have an external S-pen than a Z Fold with an internal S Pen that feels like a thick brick. Even then, I don't even use the S-Pen on my Z Fold 4.
It will be interesting to see how Samsung improve upon this for the next US iteration. It looks nice and it's a complete disregard to the Fold6 adopters. They should always give us the option of which model we want.
I still can't believe Samsung is only releasing the higher quality model of the Z Fold 6 in Korea and maybe China; it shows they don't care about their international customers. I have the Z Fold 5 and didn't upgrade to the Z Fold 6 because barely anything changed; it went up by a mm or two (I couldn't notice it was bigger than the 5 when using it), the crease is the same as the 5 (the SE 6 apparently has made the crease barely visible according to Ice Universe), it is a little thinner, has a more square shaped bezel, and the IP64 adding mild dust resistance. However, I have seen more people having issues with dust and debris getting into the Z Fold 6 hinge and under the screen than the Z Fold 5 on Samsung Community. The Z Fold 6 SE has a larger inner and outer display; I would love the outer to be a touch bigger. I use the keyboard on the front a lot, and it becomes challenging to type on, so the extra width would be perfect. The camera has jumped up to 200mp, which a lot of people wanted in the standard 6, the casing on the 6SE is titanium and more robust than the 6 aluminum case, the new hinge is much better according to testers, and the increase in screen size with the decrease in the handset size is excellent. Something many wanted on the standard 6, and of course, it is a lot thinner and better looking. The 6 SE has several upgrades and keeps all of the most prominent features, like the ability to use the pen and UD camera. I would have gotten the 6 SE even with the slightly higher price tag; Samsung has let many customers down because there are so many disgruntled people who got the 6 standard edition, and then Samsung released this with the features people wanted but restricted it to Korea. I hope the Fold 7 is a massive jump up from any previous model; if it isn't, I will go back to the S series because the S25's rumored features are brilliant.
You know this is some sort of a "consumer testing" right? If they hit it right, the next Fold variations will be exactly like the SEs. If anything, they might start adding an ultra version of a Fold.
Watching this and reading comments tells me exactly what has been happening. Samsung has always been about the outer screen being usable but not the main display. It is one hand use friendly but many people (myself included) wanted to see it become larger. But Sammy has always stuck to its guns and felt like making the outer screen larger will defeat the purpose of using it while open, which was their stance. I'm kinda conflicted in ways. I want it larger but if it's more like a slab, then what's the point of just opening it up every so often? It's nice to have that option, yes. But then why spend twice to only enjoy what you have seldom? Should the 6 Fold SE been the Fold 6 from the beginning? I don't know. It just wasn't their strategy. While people complain, I am afraid Samsung may be losing what made the Samsung Fold the Fold. Now it will be like the Pixel Fold. Or the OnePlus Open. Kinda like when Pixel went to Fold 2 (well, XL). It lost its uniqueness. I'm really torn on this...
@@SamGalaxyZ Because there's more options now from other manufacturers, they've been doing this for six years and their updates are iterative. Many users who have the 3, 4, or 5 didn't upgrade.
@@emanuelneiconi that's why they need to change it like Fold SE, with larger screen, not cramped remote control narrow cover screen, high end cam etc, not recycled ancient specs & remote control design from their last last last years foldable like they did before...
@@SamGalaxyZ Listen, I'm not arguing this. As I said, I'd like a larger device and the SE seems to be what the 6 should've been all along. All I'm saying is that the reason why Samsung hasn't done it yet (whether it was a good idea or not) is because that was the lane they chose to be in and it seems a lot of users actually prefer the remote size. However, the pressure from other manufacturers is mounting. It would be a very expensive and probably not a profitable decision, but having a regular Fold and an Ultra would make sense and satisfy both users. But there's not enough in sales for foldables at this point to justify such a move.
I signed up for the 3 upgrade a year program with AT&T. I will upgrade when ready. Remember, there will always be something now. Higher megapixels don't really do anything for how we use photos. Hope that helps.
The tall narrow cover screen and internal aspect ratio has been the reason I'm still using the Galaxy S23Ultra (22Ultra before that). Most of what I do is media consumption. That big screen doesn't buy you much if there giant black bars above and below the youtube video, and I don't want to zoom in (it cuts off the sides of the video). The MateXT is interesting, but that's a lot of money, and not available in US markets. This doesn't appear to be a big enough form factor change to make me want a foldable yet
I bought a Z Fold 6 two months ago and I would totally switch to the special edition just for form factor alone. Bigger, thinner and the shadow black color way, I'm sold!
If they really wanted to test the market then they should've released both worldwide. Z Fold 6 and Z Fold 6 Ultra or Plus. Then they'll see which one most people would prefer. I'd personally prefer the bigger size.
M shocked that you defending on a big mistake that samsung stuck on it for 6 releases that bothers us a lot , i meant: the fuckin outer screen aspect ratio 😢
His paper cut outs are way off. The Z Fold 6 measures 6.04 by 2.68 by 0.48 inches (HWD) when closed, spans 6.04 by 5.22 by 0.22 inches when open, and weighs 8.43 ounces. The Z Fold 6 SE is reportedly 6.22 by 2.87 by 0.42 inches when closed and 6.22 by 5.61 by 0.19 inches when open.
The special edition is too wide and too tall. I hope Samsung keeps the size of the normal edition. I can still hold it in one hand when unfolded and this is important. And it fits into any trousers' bag. Compact and still a huge enough screen.
I got the fold 6 on a really great deal I have zero regrets. If the fold 7 is similar to this special edition phone then I will trade in and get it in the future
But I doubt there's no S-Pen support, as I checked the specs in S Korean Samsung website just now 😳.So, now in my opinion the old ZF6 with S-Pen support is better than the bigger and slimmer SE without S-Pen support, I suppose.
Yep they can get fucked. I had a Fold 5 and just got the 6 around a month ago. Now to see this is released pisses me off immensely lol 😆 All I wanted for the 6 was the 200mp camera and a slightly large outer display. Now this "Special Edition" isn't available in New Zealand. First world problems I know but I'm hemorrhaging money constantly upgrading every year for minimal improvements. Along with a cost of living crisis, sub prime loans and housing market turmoil, once again Samsung has let down its consumers. If we had more options here in NZ I wouldn't be using their products. On a more lighter note I woke up this morning with an errection of an 18 year old so it's not all clouds and rain.
luckily i believed the rumors about fold 6 special edition before fold 6 even started selling. Tho as a fold series user (fold 3/4) , nearly 2300USD for a tiny upgraded 1 TB fold phone every year is absolutely a rip off. That's why i skipped upgrading from Fold 4 and wait til a more significant model. Hope this Fold 6 SE will be selling outside China and Korea.
I bought fold 4, upgraded to fold 5, saw fold 6 and it just didn't look much different. And this se is pretty much the same story. I'll wait for 7, only because the battery would of lost its chargered. I bet the fold 7 isn't much different.
You are not doing samsung any favors by being a yes man. This product is a shame and samsung should be shamed for it. Its for the greater good of Samsung
They better update the "cameras " to make up the difference. Because I am still upset about the satellite 📡... s22U, s23U, s24U, and the zF6/F6 nothing 😤
the wider outer screen is a big plus but if they did nothing to upgrade the horrible zoom camera then not really worth importing, Ill stick with my fold 6 and pixel 9 pro fold and with the info from this video order myself a vivo x fold 3 global!
I guess we'll have to wait to hear More about the s. Pen and the charge time. I'd like to get a fold.I currently have an s twenty four ultra. I could trade it in for a fold 6 for less than $500. At this point, with the deal that samsung has been running and then down the road trade that in for the better fold. I'm just not sure if I want to jump through all those hoops.
The Fold Special Edition has no S-pen support because ... it is too wide (when open) for most people (including >80% of all women on the planet) to hold comfortably with one hand. The user MUST be able to hold the phone (when open) with one hand (comfortably) in order to use the S-pen with the other hand. In other words, the Special Edition (when open) is a two handed phone, just like every other folding phone (Oppo, Huawei, Google, Honor, onePlus) that has negligible or no S-pen support. If the Fold 7 has the same width as the Special Edition, S-pen utility (for most people, including the vast majority of women) will suffer, IMO.
How dare they not send you one! But the rest of the market fretting that you are not getting one, don't be mad. Samsung is probably releasing this only in Korea and China because: 1. Chinese people are not going to purchase this. 2. They are using the Korean market as Beta testers so they can work out any issues from making it slimmer. They'll use the data from paying test subjects so they can make a more reliable and even thinner phone for the Fold7...for you guys.
Don't buy Samsung foldable next year if they keep launching same cr4p a.k.a Fold6 2025. No wonder their foldable sales is getting less & less every year...haha
Absolutely not... no deal. Worst disaster Samsung ever did. The spen is the most unappreciated and actually one of the best features Samsung has ever provided. To not have this critical component with this larger screen device is a mistake. Those that don't see this as a valuable component are only using their devices for social media apps instead of getting stuff done. Anyone that ask the question on why they would need this spen functionality or anything different than an iphone for just social media, does not understand the functionality you gain with a bigger dual or triple fold phone or the spen as just a few examples. It never should be, if I don't think i would use it o I don't need it. It's about having as much functionality that when you need it, it is always there. With smart glasses gaining traction for the future that will replace smart watches and larger screen media consumption having a single device that is with you is much better on your pocketbook than owning 5-10 different devices like Apple wants you to believe. With Apple and the beginning of their subscription models from back in the ipod music service haydays (not the iPhone as everyone thinks) and getting you to think you need all of their products/subscriptions, how do you think they became one of the highest valued companies (Subscriptions/Ecosystem).
Samsung could have done it for a very long time, just out of avarism, greed, they refused to do it, that's why voting 🗳️ with your wallet 👛 is always the best thing to do as consumers. On the other hand, just like with the Tab S10, it's shameful not to have a Dimensity 9400 or Snapdragon 8 Elite, but above all to no longer have the support of the Spen🖊️, and to still just have 4400mAh of battery 🔋, this Fold SE is all well and good, but it completely defines the current Samsung, Greedy Sit down for 2 seconds, and tell me honestly, how this $2000 Fold SE can be a good deal on the Chinese market (that's what he's really targeting), who has Vivo X Fold 3 Pro, Oppo Find N3, Honor Magic V3... for $1000-$1500 🤷🏽♂️ 🚶🏽♂️ 🚶🏽♂️ 🚶🏽♂️
