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Game of Thrones 8x5 "The Bells" REACTION | WHY DID THEY DO THIS?! DAENERYS WAS ONE OF THE GOOD ONES! 

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@itsreeeshaaa7560
@itsreeeshaaa7560 5 месяцев назад
Welcome to the club gentlemen. You’re part of the “I cannot believe they ruined this fucking show” club.
@ChannelSee1
@ChannelSee1 5 месяцев назад
Seriously - Cam.
@React2This
@React2This 5 месяцев назад
She zigzagged like Rickon should have.
@distantraveller9876
@distantraveller9876 5 месяцев назад
Zigzagging would not have saved Rickon. Ramsay was an expert marksman and you can't dodge an arrow by zigzagging. It's like trying to dodge a bullet, the projectiles move way too fast. There's no way to dodge that, especially if you have your back turned and don't see it coming lmao
@TheLife0fdrew
@TheLife0fdrew 5 месяцев назад
Not just daenarys not just grey worm. The north all of them were looking for a reason so murder these people. For Ned. For missandai. For not helping fight the dead. This was a long time coming. Daenerys didn’t go mad. All the signs were there from the beginning. Just gave them fire and blood. . “ when my dragons are grown. We will take back what was stolen from me, lay waste to army’s and burn cities to the ground” season 2. - daenarys I waited so long for her to follow through on this promise. I was not surprised one bit
@pieceofdebri
@pieceofdebri 5 месяцев назад
100% correct take.
@girlmathnerd
@girlmathnerd 5 месяцев назад
It's always baffled me why everyone was so mad. She literally spent seasons telling everyone that she was going to burn Westeros to the ground in order to conquer it. She had a vision of the ash and burned throne room in Qarth! It wasn't a surprise when she finally did it!
@RymeWithORANGE666
@RymeWithORANGE666 2 месяца назад
late reply. but i think the hate comes from them rushing it in one season when they were told they could do multiple to flesh out the story a bit better. its obvious she would go mad. it was just rushed
@hannahhudson9335
@hannahhudson9335 Месяц назад
I 100% agree with this take. I actually like a lot of the endings in season 7&8. My complaint with the end of this show was that there was no reason Season 7&8 couldn’t have been 10 episodes each. Why did they not take their time with these plot lines? The first two and a bit of the Night King Battle episodes of Season 8 could’ve been the end three of Season 7. And then they could’ve used 10 full episodes to tell the resolution of the Night King and Kings Landing. They could’ve even done a shorter 9th Season to wrap up. It just felt too rushed.
@TheKingEllieShow
@TheKingEllieShow 5 месяцев назад
We spent all that time following Daenerys just for it to be rushed that was the breaking point watching it live 😢
@Catherine.Dorian.
@Catherine.Dorian. 5 месяцев назад
And like they said, all she had to do was go burn the keep Cersei is in after clearing all the arrows. They destroyed her character (or failed to give us a proper build up to make this seem in character)
@gabrieloseguera7799
@gabrieloseguera7799 22 дня назад
⁠@@Catherine.Dorian.maaaaaan what ever she been crazy from jump if u go back and rewatch her scenes u will catch the seeds of her agro madness way back in season 2, like I know it wasn’t according to the book so I get peoples dislike for it but this still feels like it was in the realm of possibility for her character given how much she lost coupled with the madness of her bloodline I mean she was acting crazy when she was ruling in slavers bay, her counsel has had to advise her against mass slaughter on multiple occasions and let’s not forget how she was crazy enough to threaten the 13 of carth when she would have died without their help, like I lover her character but she definitely could have gone this route, it’s not a assassination of her character it’s just the bad ending in a dating sim lol both are equally possible
@Gree05
@Gree05 5 месяцев назад
will forever hate the writers for fucking it up like this
@itsreeeshaaa7560
@itsreeeshaaa7560 5 месяцев назад
Same. They destroyed this show with this episode right here.
@CASantos
@CASantos 5 месяцев назад
​@@itsreeeshaaa7560 ep 3 did just as much damage tbf
@Gree05
@Gree05 5 месяцев назад
@@CASantos whole season😂
@ChaosLierLen
@ChaosLierLen 3 месяца назад
I have so much schadenfreude about them losing their chance with Star Wars.
@LMarsz
@LMarsz 5 месяцев назад
Said it once I’ll say it again Always Team Mother of Dragons 🐉-🐉🐉
@ayaNjah
@ayaNjah 5 месяцев назад
There's mah sis✊🔥🩸🐲🐲
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 4 месяца назад
The loyals. Mad King would've burned you alive and you would've smiled 😂
@LMarsz
@LMarsz 4 месяца назад
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 just bc I’m team MOD don’t mean I’d be in Kings Landing .. I can be team MOD from somewhere else lol plus I’m team MOD not the same era as TMK
@distantraveller9876
@distantraveller9876 5 месяцев назад
Daenerys going insane WAS George RR Martin's idea from the very first book. Daenerys was always meant to be the final antagonist of the story. Even her name hints at this, "Daen" comes from the Hebrew word meaning "God is my witness" and "Erys" was the greek goddess of destruction. Her name basically translates to "God witness my destruction". There are so many hints and clues throughout the story that indicate Daenerys was becoming more ruthless and power hungry as the seasons went by and as she and her dragons became more powerful. Daenerys was also someone who (despite having empathy for others) treated her enemies without mercy and Daenerys was at her breaking point here, everything she lost and had worked for was on the line and after all the hardship and suffering she had to endure to get it, she just couldn't handle the pressure and heartbreak anymore and snapped. Not to mention her fury over Rhaegal and Missandei's deaths. Daenerys also held no love for the people of King's Landing, as she knew they turned against her father and essentially opened the gates to Tywin during Robert's Rebellion, leading to the Targaryens being overthrown in the first place. So in a way, she probably felt like they too were indirectly responsible for her and her brother's exile and every bad thing that ever happened to her since. She justifies this in her mind as she sees it as a cleansing act, destroying the old so she can rebuild the world anew, in her image. In her mind, King's Landing belongs to her, it is her birthright, it's where her ancestor Aegon the Conqueror first landed in Westeros with his dragon Balerion (hence why the city is called King's Landing) and the city was then built around that very spot. After Aegon conquered and united the Seven Kingdoms, the Iron Throne was forged by Balerion's own flames, using all the swords of Aegon's fallen enemies. All of this is deeply symbolic and personal to Daenerys own journey and is the reason she was so obsessed with the Iron Throne.
@peuzip
@peuzip 5 месяцев назад
lmao you need to be serious for a minute
@Bled420
@Bled420 5 месяцев назад
Another detail you may not have realized, the bells change tone when Dany is about to burn the city down. I think it reminded her of the stories her brother told her of the bells ringing as they sailed away to Pentos as Tywin and the rebel army sacked King’s Landing before Dany was born
@KJPomftet
@KJPomftet 5 месяцев назад
I thought they went to Dragonstone after King’s Landing? It’s been a long time so I could be wrong, but I seem to remember that they went to Dragonstone and then a few other places to avoid assassins before finally ending up in Pentos
@distantraveller9876
@distantraveller9876 5 месяцев назад
@@KJPomftet Correct. Queen Rhaella (who was pregnant with Daenerys at the time) escaped with a young Viserys to Dragonstone shortly before the Sack of King's Landing by Robert and Tywin's armies. Daenerys was then born on Dragonstone during a great storm (hence why she is called Daenerys Stormborn). Queen Rhaella died giving birth to Daenerys and only then did Viserys and a baby Daenerys cross the Narrow Sea and relocate to Pentos (some theories suggest they actually went to Braavos first although this is unconfirmed by GRRM). But Daenerys heard all of these stories while growing up through Viserys, who was old enough to remember everything that happened.
@CarloRodriguez10
@CarloRodriguez10 5 месяцев назад
20:24 “She wants to kill Cersi. So she not gonna kill the innocent.” GUESS AGAIN 🙂
@Nattiie
@Nattiie 5 месяцев назад
“I’ve never known bells to mean surrender.” - Davos Seaworth in S2E9, Battle of Blackwater. Nothing makes sense this season.
@ayaNjah
@ayaNjah 5 месяцев назад
Ser Davos💚💚
@conradmcdaniel8407
@conradmcdaniel8407 5 месяцев назад
She was always gunna snap and kill people. Since season 1 she's been talking about fire and blood, killing the men in their iron suits, lay waste to armies and return their cities to the dirt.... It just sucks how the directors rushed it
@peuzip
@peuzip 5 месяцев назад
you mean the same kind of talk every other character that is perceived as a hero talked?
@WLDB
@WLDB 5 месяцев назад
​@@peuzipJon never did. Tyrion never did.
@itsthatgirl98_
@itsthatgirl98_ 5 месяцев назад
Robert was mad, Stanis was mad he killed his daughter, Jon killed a kid who stab him, all of the characters killed innocent people, they are mad too, so shut the f*ck up.
@itsthatgirl98_
@itsthatgirl98_ 5 месяцев назад
@@WLDB Jon did, Tyrion did, they killed innocent people, Tyrion killed his whore and father and many more, Jon killed his mother in childbirth, killed a kid who stab him and alot more.
@Nexrasa
@Nexrasa 5 месяцев назад
@@WLDB You mean Tyrion "I wish i had enough poison for the whole pack of you" Lannister, never did?
@Scambityfactsteam
@Scambityfactsteam 5 месяцев назад
People forget the Mad King was kidnapped and in the dungeons of Duskendale for 6 months until Ser Barristan saved him. He didn’t seem mad in the war of the Ninepenny Kings when he met Tywin.. Plus the coin flip yea she always had the madness in her
@Scambityfactsteam
@Scambityfactsteam 5 месяцев назад
@@Aydan2108 so I see somebody has never heard of the Targaryen coin flip.. if you don’t know wtf you talking bout you should shut up.. Look at the history of Targaryen Kings half of them had madness even the ones who weren’t kings it’s a family thing due to the insess.. So you clearly ain’t read none of the books or none of the other lore it’s a history of they family
@carlosarcoss
@carlosarcoss 5 месяцев назад
I love that you guys are trying to make sense of how drogon can survive all those ships 😭 I did too at once but I just gave up after
@Catherine.Dorian.
@Catherine.Dorian. 5 месяцев назад
I’ve always wondered, why close the gates? If the city rang the bells and Daenarys didn’t react, would Cersei have killed her own people?
@celior
@celior 5 месяцев назад
I think even after all this time, I’m still the one glad that Daenerys did all this. those people were never loyal to Cersei and they’d never be loyal to her. Daenerys’ only mistake was not killing Jon and Tyrion first.
@queenxx1690
@queenxx1690 5 месяцев назад
You know what was missing FAegon to take city from Cersei
@celior
@celior 5 месяцев назад
@@queenxx1690 and Ballerion!
@queenxx1690
@queenxx1690 5 месяцев назад
@@celior Ballerion ?
@celior
@celior 5 месяцев назад
@@queenxx1690 Aegon the conqueror’s dragon
@queenxx1690
@queenxx1690 5 месяцев назад
@@celior but i was talking about Fake Aegon from books
@ayaNjah
@ayaNjah 5 месяцев назад
To me, D&D are the mad queens, NOT Dany. People don't just flip so suddenly. Literally not how insanity works, unless drugs or sever physical trauma re: Theon/Reek. And don't any of you haters comment and say she's ways been ruthless, ambitious etc. Stfu. I will delete and repost. It is just dishonest, if you say that she's always "shown signs". She has had restraint, compassion, learned from her mistakes (meereen etc.) and listened to council. And she always, always cared for the people, literally the breaker of damn chains. So imo. I'll never accept this ending for her character. She's just someone that looks and sounds like Dany, but she is the rushed, watered-down version of a lame, "crazy" queen created by the real mad queens D&D. Sorry not sorry, it doesn't feel authentic to me. Anyways, last ep coming up, are you guys going to do a season/series recap/discussion afterwards?
@freerangegirl4457
@freerangegirl4457 5 месяцев назад
She showed her brutality from very early on.. the only difference is that she listened to advisors and fealt loved. They rushed the decent into madness but all the signs were there.
@pieceofdebri
@pieceofdebri 5 месяцев назад
She didn't descend into "madness", she just snapped because Cersei killed her friend. There is no evidence that she's crazy. And since she isn't crazy, it makes more sense that it happened quickly since her emotions were high. Seems really straight forward to me.
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 4 месяца назад
@@pieceofdebri Sounds good, except no amount of snapping would make someone kill innocent people. You have to be insane to do that
@tsxtina2919
@tsxtina2919 5 месяцев назад
She spent 8 season saying she would take what is “hers” with fire and blood. What did you think she meant?? She was given the choice to save Messandei. She chose not to save her cuz she cares about power more than her best friend. Or anything for that matter. Also. Queen Cersei never did anything to Dany for her to want to kill her. And before you say she killed her dragon and Mossandei she only did that when they started marching against Queen Cersei. Which is a declaration of war. Plus you sided with someone who uses literal fire breathing man eating monsters to control people. How anyone is surprised is beyond me
@tsxtina2919
@tsxtina2919 5 месяцев назад
@@Aydan2108 she said the blood of her enemies and a witch who avenges her entire village is her enemy. That makes the witch a hero and Dany a VILLAIN. Cersei killed Olenna because they were enemies before Dany. Cersei killed a dragon and Missandei once they marched on her. As I said Queen Cersei NEVER did anything to Daenerys Trashgaryen
@tsxtina2919
@tsxtina2919 5 месяцев назад
@@Aydan2108 Trashgaryen fans never fail to justify an evil dictator’s evil actions. The witch only killed her child because THEY SLAUGHTERED HER ENTIRE VILLAGE. Missandie and the evil lizard died because of Dany’s need to rule the entire world. She was give a choice to save her best friend “Queen Cersei demands Daenerys’ unconditional surrender or Missandai dies right here and now.” She didn’t care for her own bff. Cersei killed the Tyrell’s because she saw right through them. They were manipulating her child and killed her first born. Every person Queen Cersei killed all fucked with her. Even Dany. Queen Cersei made sure she showed her true colors and by doing so she insured she NEVER got to rule. How can she be a Queen when she never ruled, never sat the throne, never had a crown. She was an evil conqueror, dictator pretending to be a queen. Fuck the Trashgaryens and their evil lazards 🗑️
@jrafel1707
@jrafel1707 5 месяцев назад
It's not the ending. It's the terrible writing, the terrible dialogue and the path to the ending that had a lot of fans upset. We were given a multi-award winning show for several seasons for the outstanding character development, dialogue and effects and at the end, even the Simpsons cartoon had better writing and development. They completely destroyed characters by making Jon a "squeeky toy" that squeeked out "she is my queen" any time he was poked, Tyrion left his brain somewhere in Merreen, and Bran went through becominga 3 eyed raven so he could roll his eyes back and play live bait for his big role.
@Wizardjudge
@Wizardjudge 5 месяцев назад
100% - spot on analysis. Couldn’t agree more. Felt the same way. The most infuriating element (could be apocryphal) is that the showrunners were spending more time prepping for their Star Wars project in lieu of this season. 5-6 more episodes and these storylines could’ve been earned.
@snowhawk04
@snowhawk04 Месяц назад
roflmfao... show haters just continue to parrot the same nonsense. D&D weren't prepping for their Star Wars project because they didn't sign to Disney until the show was nearly done filming. In fact, their next project wasn't even Star Wars. It was that alt-history Confederacy show for HBO. They started to work on that AFTER thrones ended. 5-6 more episodes was never going to fix your inability to pay attention to the actual story being told or preventing you from subverting your own expectations with fairy tale endings.
@avmavm777
@avmavm777 5 месяцев назад
I’ll never understand the grief the it’s season gets. I loved it. Drama, surprises and poignant storylines. Loved it
@tsmith8082
@tsmith8082 5 месяцев назад
Me neither 🤷🏾‍♂️
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 4 месяца назад
Some folks just have lower IQ
@NewYorkFloridaMan
@NewYorkFloridaMan 5 месяцев назад
Danaerys went straight up Shin Godzilla on Kings Landing
@mirkosuzarteskarica9726
@mirkosuzarteskarica9726 5 месяцев назад
Though I understand Daenerys going mad is a coherent storyline for her character, I don’t think that’s the path she’s following in the books. I also don’t think that was her destiny in the show. Nevertheless, if done with time and good writing, it could’ve been a great turn! BUT THE SHOW HAD THREE VILLAINS IN THE LAST SEASON! How are we supposed to keep up with that?!
@Jujuthecat
@Jujuthecat 5 месяцев назад
LMAO next episode can't come fast enough.
@TheWoody25
@TheWoody25 5 месяцев назад
First! Love yalls reactions!
@ChannelSee1
@ChannelSee1 5 месяцев назад
Second! Love your comments!
@itsthatgirl98_
@itsthatgirl98_ 5 месяцев назад
Daenerys lost everything, if I lost everything like she did I would also stay the way she did, she was a child who never had anything, only a brother who abused her, sold to a group of savages who sexually abuse women, etc... How do you want her to stay mentally and psychologically with what she has experienced all these years? It's impossible! I'll always be on her side, the other characters have also killed innocent people, they also have problems.
@MrYoungGun100
@MrYoungGun100 5 месяцев назад
I don't know what show y'all have been watching. How many people does Dany need to crucify, murder, or burn alive before people realize that she's ALWAYS been a maniac, at heart. She did EXACTLY what she said she was gonna do. She told the people in Qarth that she was gonna burn down their city if they did not let her in, she crucified men in Mereen - at least some of whom were innocent, she burned canister soldiers alive, she literally told everyone she was gonna bring King's Landing down upon people's heads. She wanted to burn down King's Landing plenty of times and the only thing that stopped her was Tyrion and Jon. Tyrion LITERALLY said that only her advisors keep her from doing terrible shit. And then, at the end, when she does...somehow everyone is surprised and is acting like it's super duper out of character. SMH. Again...what show have people been watching?!?!?!
@kylerider7125
@kylerider7125 5 месяцев назад
I agree with you 100%. Without her advisers she would have burned everything and everyone in her path.
@OpeningsOpenings
@OpeningsOpenings 5 месяцев назад
Dany was always the dragon She was always entitled (only it came out after her brother Viserys was no longer in control of her) Dany was always easy to anger and ready to “burn them all” “lay waste to your cities” blah blah Why was this a surprise to anyone? Her story trajectory was very clean - plainly laid out and a straight line None of that is what I have a problem with. My problem is Brans storyline being so erratic! “Why do you think I came all this way?” And NO ONE being like - wait, what??? You KNEW this all along and let it all play out so you could claim the throne while saying all along you couldn’t hold such positions since you are the 3 eyed raven… Come on now!!! THAT is the storyline that was under developed
@avmavm777
@avmavm777 5 месяцев назад
Absolutely agree! She wanted power so much. Her whole life had been leading to the throne. Jealousy, paranoia and grief pushed her over the edge. She had had always been quick to anger and had committed horrific atrocities in front of our eyes. I feel that too many invested in her story and for some reason didn’t want to think about her cruel, angry streak. For me, the joy of watching GoT has been the constant thwarting of the fairytale narratives we are used to. Every now and again we were confronted with a twist and a loved character doing something awful or dying. We were never going to g to get the ending many of us wished for - we were going to g to be treated to something surprising, that had been signalled all along.
@kylerider7125
@kylerider7125 5 месяцев назад
@@OpeningsOpenings bran was the biggest villain of the show. He knew what was going to happen and he didn’t do anything about it
@OpeningsOpenings
@OpeningsOpenings 5 месяцев назад
@@kylerider7125 I know right!? It’s crazy the characters in the story weren’t seeing him as a villain after that and made him King
@drsavage3262
@drsavage3262 Месяц назад
This episode will always be hard to watch! Gnarly 💯
@Rayray-kj9cc
@Rayray-kj9cc 5 месяцев назад
Im gonna miss watching this with you guys
@bethelberhane
@bethelberhane 5 месяцев назад
“I never really cared for them, innocent or otherwise.”his whole character arc is about him caring for the people of kingslanding so this literally makes no sense. He killed a king cause he cared for them so the directors are just saying stuff to say stuff at this point lmao
@josht9253
@josht9253 5 месяцев назад
Jaime Lannister is a tragedy, he can’t get Cersei out of his system. He’s like an addict. He’s not the redemption story people were expecting.
@bethelberhane
@bethelberhane 5 месяцев назад
⁠@@josht9253and that’s true but that line specifically does not make any sense to me cause 8 seasons have passed he shouldn’t have been still in denial about him caring about the people of kings landing cause he went through some development even if he didn’t actively save him this episode I don’t think that line should have been added at this point in the show
@JC-wn7ih
@JC-wn7ih 5 месяцев назад
I just like to pretend he never said that when watching. lol!
@pieceofdebri
@pieceofdebri 5 месяцев назад
Jaime is the exact kinda guy who would say something like that, though. Even if he didn't mean it deep down. He was trying to justify to himself why he was leaving Brienne and going back to try and help Cersei.
@tsmith8082
@tsmith8082 5 месяцев назад
1 - he’s just saying it to seem like he doesn’t care. 2 - it was more because he chose his family than caring about innocents.
@WLDB
@WLDB 5 месяцев назад
She hadn't been one of the good ones for a long time. I saw this coming from season 2.
@Bled420
@Bled420 5 месяцев назад
I absolutely agree Dany’s descent into madness was 100% plausible but very rushed in this season. I mean, if you watch her journey she shows sign’s in seasons 4 and continues to show them but she has such good advisors that they managed to help keep it managed. If they had more time they could have portrait her fall into The Mad Queen much better
@Mateoffvii
@Mateoffvii 5 месяцев назад
Honestly, if the show creators had actually wanted to end with this story, it needed much more time and development than 6 episodes could do. The final season is so rushed that it feels like a character assassination against Daenerys rather than a logical conclusion to her character. Could she become the Mad Queen, yes. Did it make any sense in the amount of time they took, I don't think so. Not to mention stories that had been built up for seasons were either rushed or left out of the ending at all. All the goodwill the show built up over the years was thrown away because David and Dan decided that they didn't want to invest the time to actually wrap up the series properly, and instead jump ship and let the story drown. I'm glad their deals fell through because of the backlash they received.
@lukasmarsha6843
@lukasmarsha6843 5 месяцев назад
Remember season 3 ep 4, when she burnt a man with dracaris for the first time. We all cheered her then. Our mad queen...
@honeybbqwings2664
@honeybbqwings2664 5 месяцев назад
I think the reason we all hated seasons 7 and especially 8 so much is because we waited a year in-between seasons and watched for 8 years (book readers longer) for an ending that was done in a way that was so thoughtless for the fans. All the timr and money and emotion fans put into the series for Dan and Dave to just wash their hands of the ending and rush through it. Garbage.
@ayaNjah
@ayaNjah 5 месяцев назад
💯💯This
@MackerelCat
@MackerelCat 4 месяца назад
Why did they do this to her???
@Onlytalents001
@Onlytalents001 3 месяца назад
Only Daenerys haters in the comments
@bravassSubs
@bravassSubs 4 месяца назад
So Daenerys's Arc was becoming her father? Really? That's just plain lazy
@TheLife0fdrew
@TheLife0fdrew 5 месяцев назад
Also to add. In my opinion there was a build up to this point for her ( emotionally ) think about her whole life on the show. She was born in Westeros but she didn’t grow up there. She’s a savage queen. She doesn’t think like them. And she’s surrounded by people she can’t trust who don’t care about her.
@janeathome6643
@janeathome6643 5 месяцев назад
There is a long tradition of Targaryens who are stone-cold sober, but lose it eventually. Also, if Jon had tried to claim the throne, he would have been murdered in the blink of an eye. At the very least, there would have been an all out war between the North and the Unsullied and Dothraki, and the North would burn. Part of the problem (besides the last two seasons being insanely rushed) is that show Dany has always been too good, very different from book Dany. And they kept giving her all these big rah-rah wins and depicting her motives for freeing the slaves as being essentially pure. I think they did that as a deliberate misdirection away from Jon as an alternative, but by doing that they boxed themselves into a corner in terms of Dany's character, so her turn (though foreshadowed) feels like it's coming out of left field. A lot of bad calls these last two seasons, including giving Catspaw and the NK kill to Arya instead of Jon, and then not having Arya use her Faceless Man training to kill Cersei. You really need to react to "The Last Watch" which is a terrific documentary about the making of the last season, and even though it's HBO and a positive take, the table read with the cast reacting to the script is GOLD!!!
@shanekeg
@shanekeg 5 месяцев назад
Cant even hear the show, TURN IT UP!!😂😂
@prico3358
@prico3358 5 месяцев назад
Never cared for Dany, i was always resentful of the blue balling with "crossing the sea". I was over it by the time they crossed.
@OpeningsOpenings
@OpeningsOpenings 5 месяцев назад
Dany was always the dragon She was always entitled (only it came out after her brother Viserys was no longer in control of her) Dany was always easy to anger and ready to “burn them all” “lay waste to your cities” blah blah Why was this a surprise to anyone? Her story trajectory was very clean - plainly laid out and a straight line None of that is what I have a problem with. My problem is Brans storyline being so erratic! “Why do you think I came all this way?” And NO ONE being like - wait, what??? You KNEW this all along and let it all play out so you could claim the throne while saying all along you couldn’t hold such positions since you are the 3 eyed raven… Come on now!!! THAT is the storyline that was under developed
@lukasmarsha6843
@lukasmarsha6843 5 месяцев назад
Please no spoilers! It only episod 5!
@prico3358
@prico3358 5 месяцев назад
5:38 the actor that plays Varys was angry at the first table reading of the script. Theres clips of it.
@TonyToneMCMXCIV
@TonyToneMCMXCIV 5 месяцев назад
Love seeing everyone so mad again lol😂
@Toxic0788
@Toxic0788 5 месяцев назад
Still Team Dany 👑🐉. Horrible nonsensical writing won't change that.
@alicia1465
@alicia1465 4 месяца назад
I believe this was George RR Martin’s plan, not made up by the show’s writers…I think the idea is that no human being should possess such power. She has killed hundreds over the years of the story, without ever getting her hands dirty. There is a line in the book about he who passes the sentence should swing the sword, and how it otherwise gets too easy to take a life if you never feel the weight of it. Her checks and balances are dead at this point, she is facing resistance and dislike from everyone in Westeros after being adored in Essos, and has suffered many losses and defeats. She doesn’t trust her remaining advisors and was betrayed. There is a better candidate for the throne she has dedicated her life to getting, and he already has the love and respect she hasn’t been able to get in Westeros. A human being with emotions has absolute control of what is essentially a nuclear weapon. No one should have that power, in a fantasy world or the real one. Things in this story are never as easy as good guy/bad guy. Dany did a lot of good things and often had good intentions, and she also did a lot of bad and brutal things, throughout the show. Her story is tragic, and it’s sad to see.
@Realmediamashup
@Realmediamashup 5 месяцев назад
“If u think this has a happy ending u haven’t been paying attention” -Ramsey (the bastard) Bolton
@jonathanblaze1648
@jonathanblaze1648 5 месяцев назад
The writers even ruined that quote because it was a happy ending. For Jon, Tyrion, Sansa, Arya, Davos, Bran, Brianne, and Bron. They all basically got what they wanted and had happy endings.
@moodyinformed
@moodyinformed 5 месяцев назад
They set up this quote but like....I wasn't expecting a happy ending, just one that made sense for the characters. This could've eventually happened with Dany and all but they needed an entire season before she could get there. Not to mention all the other character assassinations like CERSEI, Tyrion, Arya, JAIME (UGHHH), etc. Jon. 😢😅
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 4 месяца назад
The quote played out in the wrong way. It was supposed to be sad in the show, not sad in real life because the show is garbage now 😂
@kainoa55
@kainoa55 5 месяцев назад
She was turning bad from season one. What are you guys talking about?
@jeffreycleijne3079
@jeffreycleijne3079 5 месяцев назад
The mad Queen has been there since season 2 outside of Qarth where she said she would burn cities to the ground to get what she is "owed". But all along the journey she had her advisors to keep her in check. And now she has lost everyone of them so the mad Queen comes out. Sure the decent into madness is rushed. But not of the blue that a whole lot of people seem to think.
@mathiaslisboa1265
@mathiaslisboa1265 5 месяцев назад
womp womp
@gandalfthegamer4505
@gandalfthegamer4505 5 месяцев назад
@@mathiaslisboa1265 daario fan spotted
@mathiaslisboa1265
@mathiaslisboa1265 5 месяцев назад
@@gandalfthegamer4505 y
@rtellez19891
@rtellez19891 5 месяцев назад
Nahh, the Dany flip was like if Walter White walked the line of being Heisenberg but always being talked out of it. But in the last 2 episodes he becomes Heisenberg and does everything Heisenberg does in those last two episodes. Danys flip was so unearned and rushed 😂😂
@marcinkusmierzak991
@marcinkusmierzak991 5 месяцев назад
I always said the same thing. She was showing signs of that since the beginning but her enemies were considered evil and she was good so it felt justified
@jonathanblaze1648
@jonathanblaze1648 5 месяцев назад
After Season 4 Tyrion was just a plot device to mainly destroy Daenerys. His plans caused the masters to return and attack Meereen, lose her a dragon causing the army of the dead to march south. Trusting Cersei to help fight and she didn't. His plan to not immediately take Kings Landing which caused her to lose the Iron Fleet, Dorne and Highgarden. Tyrion got Varys killed by snitching to Daenerys. And it was Tyrion's plan for Jaimie to take Cersei to that location where the exit was blocked by fallen rocks, so he killed them also. And Daenerys' turn happened in 2 episodes. In episode 3 she's helping save the world against the army of the dead. Episode 5, burn them all!
@ayaNjah
@ayaNjah 5 месяцев назад
Brilliantly put👏👏couldn't agree more
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 4 месяца назад
Sounds good, but Daenarys still ruined herself by attacking innocent people.
@Tsunami7964
@Tsunami7964 5 месяцев назад
People seem to forget that Varys said he would talk to Dany if he thought she was going in the wrong direction. Then he plotted to have her poisoned… And don’t get me started on Jon ‘loving Dany’ he couldn’t get away from her quick enough in the last few eps.
@BLACKlVlAMB4
@BLACKlVlAMB4 5 месяцев назад
All bro had to do was be quiet dude had the baddest chick in the world. Could’ve been the king consort had kids and been set but he opened his mouth and what she said would happen did.. Ned died protecting a truth for so many years to have Jon spill it in a matter of days smh
@Mateoffvii
@Mateoffvii 5 месяцев назад
Varys did tell her, in episode 4. He kept his word, he looked her in the eye and told her she was failing the people, and she chose to ignore him. He exhausted all other avenues to get through to her. Just like Jaime he served the Mad King. He knew what was coming and knew trying to stop her would cost him his life. He was faced with an impossible choice, and he chose.
@Tsunami7964
@Tsunami7964 5 месяцев назад
@@Mateoffviiyeah that’s true, although I think Varys was talking at winterfell how he’d prefer Jon to be ruler. Seems his allegiance changed before he had this final chat with her.
@Mateoffvii
@Mateoffvii 5 месяцев назад
@@Tsunami7964 Yeah, I think that was Varys' weakness (not as a person, but more like his vulnerable point) He always wanted what was best for the people of the realm. When he realized Dany was a sinking ship, he sought to put the people's interests ahead of his allegiance to Daenerys. Even though he knew it meant his death. He told her he chose her because he said the people have no better chance than you. When he realized that Jon would truly be a better king worthy of the people, he decided to choose as he always chose. He chose whomever he thought could save the people.
@ayaNjah
@ayaNjah 5 месяцев назад
This. People pretend Varys was innocent. I liked him too but he deserved to die. She warned him.
@Verdent777
@Verdent777 5 месяцев назад
Danny always had the mad queen in her. When you watch it again and again you will see this early on.
@PinkSokka
@PinkSokka 5 месяцев назад
Cersei should have been the mad queen . Long live Queen Daenerys.
@snowhawk04
@snowhawk04 Месяц назад
Psst, Cersei and Daenerys are two heads on the same coin.
@Victoria-kv9oz
@Victoria-kv9oz 5 месяцев назад
My questions was and still is, “Why didn’t Dany go straight for Cersei?!” She had absolutely no smoke (pun intended) for the woman who had her dragon and Missande killed? Dany burned people alive who had nothing to do with her beef with Cersei and why? Cuz she was pissed! I was so mad at her for allowing Cersei to die in Jamie’s arms. She should have died screaming after everything’s she’s done. I’m still mad. lol….Anyway, Dany proved to be no different from her father, The Mad King and no different from Cersei. The Seven Kingdoms does not need another one of them.
@cheryljohns7541
@cheryljohns7541 5 месяцев назад
GRRM needs to leave his Song of Ice & Fire outline and desired ending in his will…just in case he never finishes his books. Put us out of our misery and give us a better ending with a more gradual progression for God’s sake 😂
@DukeJimbob
@DukeJimbob 5 месяцев назад
All he has to do is do the exact opposite of the show and it'll be great
@ayaNjah
@ayaNjah 5 месяцев назад
Fr though😞
@correypeta
@correypeta 5 месяцев назад
Varys was the real hero. He was good.
@chrissears5482
@chrissears5482 Месяц назад
People get too caught up in loving Dany to see this was always going to happen. She had been killing and burning people since season 2 and everyone cheered because they were "bad guys" and then they all forget that she wanted to burn down whole cities multiple times and only didn't because she had friends telling her not to. I do think they rushed her going mad a little fast, but she had lost everyone close to her and even Jon wouldn't touch her anymore and she felt betrayed by him as well for telling people the truth about him.
@bravassSubs
@bravassSubs 4 месяца назад
We didn't see Jon and the Night King fight after 7 fuc**ng season but hey, with saw The Hound and The Mountain fight to dead because, you know, that's far more important to the story.
@thomiJohnson
@thomiJohnson 5 месяцев назад
Danny could have avoided all of this by killing Tyrion. He was a terrible hand. What D and D did to Jamie was absolutely unforgettable.
@Starkiller2725
@Starkiller2725 4 месяца назад
To me it never made sense how Daenerys is unloved, after literally saving anyone. Yeah, Arya killed the Night king, but without Dany and her armies, not to mention dragons, she should have been hailed as the biggest hero.
@queenxx1690
@queenxx1690 5 месяцев назад
Now read books boys and wait with rest of the world on GRRM to finish it btw books end on Jon Snow death everything after that is ff with some plots taken from GRRM like HODOR or Bran being king but he never said what kind of king he will be and in books there is more than one throne to sit on .
@tsmith8082
@tsmith8082 5 месяцев назад
People get so butthurt because Daenerys as if it was rushed but nah, this is what it’s always been coming to since her rise in season 1. Also we’ve gotten Cersei vs Daenerys since season 7.
@tsmith8082
@tsmith8082 5 месяцев назад
@@Aydan2108 because her response to everything is always violence and she’s usually been held back by her advisors. Once she fed a man to her dragon without trial in season 5, I knew she would be the final boss. She had a slave executed for doing the same thing. But she can do no wrong? I should have known once she executed 315 random masters after taking Meereen for ‘vengeance against the 315 slaves that were executed’. Once you start killing people like that, without taking into account that some of those masters were against the mass murder of the slaves, this is what it comes down to: Daenerys Targaryen does not care about innocent people if they do not advance her goals. Burning the city to cause fear to the lords of Westeros advances her goals.
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 4 месяца назад
Anyone saying someone is "butthurt" cannot be taken seriously. The writing is in the gutter. There was literally no reason for her to kill innocent people, nor was their any buildup to it. The vast majority of the fanbase is not saying this is bad writing because they are "butthurt" 😂
@tsmith8082
@tsmith8082 4 месяца назад
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 thanks for proving my point 😉
@momackone
@momackone 5 месяцев назад
Half arsed lazy writing. They really fked all the loyal fans over. So passed with how it all went towards the end
@bryce253
@bryce253 5 месяцев назад
If you think that was bad...you just wait...😏.
@avmavm777
@avmavm777 5 месяцев назад
The signs of how insane Daenerys was have been there all along. Her jealousy and anger have been slowly building.
@itsthatgirl98_
@itsthatgirl98_ 5 месяцев назад
If someone killed your whole family and stole the throne from you would be like that too, so shut up and read the books.
@davidwatson7196
@davidwatson7196 5 месяцев назад
@@itsthatgirl98_ With respect. Daenerys was still in the womb in the process of coming into the world, when all of that was taking place. Daenerys only knows about what happened to her family, by the people who whisked her and Viserys away. And from Viserys's perspective, even though he was only about 9 years old, when Aerys Targaryen II rule came to an end.
@ptolover7
@ptolover7 5 месяцев назад
Oh Dany could be impulsive and cruel at times throughout the show for sure, and I was always convinced she was going to end as the Mad Queen. The problem for me is that they never had her take the step from killing those who wronged her to killing innocents, then we just take this leap all of a sudden to not only killing innocents, but killing a whole city of them after they literally surrendered. I just didn't think it was narratively satisfying to have the switch flipped like that in a second.
@a.syafiab
@a.syafiab 5 месяцев назад
​@@itsthatgirl98_Please, she didn't even flinch when Viserys died.. She didn't care for family, just power that comes with her name
@a.syafiab
@a.syafiab 5 месяцев назад
@@Aydan2108 She "loved" her r@pist..
@legendary8838
@legendary8838 5 месяцев назад
We been seeing she’s had a dark side since earlier in the show
@rojalasangre.
@rojalasangre. 5 месяцев назад
That people is everything but innocent
@powernana7932
@powernana7932 5 месяцев назад
I know guys,i know.
@annewoodard6803
@annewoodard6803 5 месяцев назад
I think people miss the fact that George RR Martin hasn’t finished the books, so stretching out the early seasons hoping he would finish them made sense. They couldn’t wait any longer and with George and his plot points they finished the series. That’s why HOD has so well paced, it’s a complete story.
@Kamandi2
@Kamandi2 5 месяцев назад
They ended it the way George RR Martin said he planned to end it. He gave them an outline of his plans. The details may end up being different but the big picture was the way Martin planned it. The problem is HBO wanted two shorter seasons for the last two seasons. If they had done full 10 episodes seasons for both season seven and eight, then they would’ve been able to build up to this to see her madness building.
@ChannelSee1
@ChannelSee1 5 месяцев назад
Actually HBO wanted 10 seasons the same as Martin. The show runners, DnD did not want as they were burnt out and wanted to work on their Star Wars.
@bryce253
@bryce253 5 месяцев назад
Ummm... He did NOT say that. Dafuq you talking about?! How can it have been this long and you still not know that?!
@snowhawk04
@snowhawk04 Месяц назад
@@ChannelSee1 No. HBO wanted as many seasons as D&D were willing to deliver. GRRM was the one that wanted "10 seasons" and "100 episodes", that there was enough material for 13 seasons. GRRM probably should have released his books instead of scrapping them after the vocal fans that hated season 8 dumped on his ending. While D&D were burnt out by the end, the plan had always been 7 seasons. During the negotiations around season 4, they agreed to HBO's request to stretch their vision for season 7 into a shorter season 8. They signed the Disney-Star Wars deal toward the end of filming of season 8, meaning it had no meaningful affect on their writing for that season or decision to end the show where they did. The first project they worked on following Game of Thrones wasn't even Star Wars. It was the HBO alt-history confederacy show.
@davidfindley7640
@davidfindley7640 5 месяцев назад
I really hate the way Cersei and Jaime died together. Neither one of them deserved the comfort of dying with the other. Jaime should have died in his fight with Euron Greyjoy and Cersei should have died alone crying out for Jaime.
@xqzqcv7950
@xqzqcv7950 5 месяцев назад
Deserve? They were two halves of the same whole, theyre the same person Thats the only way it was ever gonna be for those two. Doubt they felt much comfort in the end lol
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 4 месяца назад
Truth.
@senior_comrade8401
@senior_comrade8401 5 месяцев назад
Thinking in terms of good and evil! Suits you both.
@zayamelly
@zayamelly 5 месяцев назад
Now, you understand the disappointment 😞
@prico3358
@prico3358 5 месяцев назад
It was in the vail. They gave the Lord of the vail a dragon ride. But in truth it was a soft threat to the mom, who was in charge of the vail.
@realSimoneCherie
@realSimoneCherie 5 месяцев назад
Agreed We deserved more time with this I maintain that I believe Daenerys always had underlying anger and the ability to be impulsive, she is also obsessed with that throne and also has a bit of manifest destiny type attitude, so it all makes sense. I was hoping we would see her take over and get at least a full season of her just ruling over Westeros maybe growing tension between her and Jon before making that descent into madness.
@prico3358
@prico3358 5 месяцев назад
All the characters knew off screan her plan. We as an audience didnt. Thats why tyrion risked all to stop it.
@annewoodard6803
@annewoodard6803 5 месяцев назад
The producers looked up one day and realized they’d missed 12 years of their children’s lives. The people who worked on the show made big sacrifices, let alone the brutal work it takes to create a show like this. They were spent and burned out. Once the ending was in sight, they went for it. Character development was over, we knew who the characters were by then and the story ended. Think about it. People are pissed the ending came too fast, which just proves what an epic series it was! 😁
@ramoncarter3121
@ramoncarter3121 5 месяцев назад
that is not what happenend they got offered a star wars movie thats why they rushed it then because it was so bad at the end star wars took the deal off the table dont make dan and dave look like saints
@pieceofdebri
@pieceofdebri 5 месяцев назад
@@ramoncarter3121 you're the one who is suffering from madness if you believe that ridiculous story. They loved this show. They did the best they could. If you don't like it, whatever, but the slander against these guys who made the best show of all time is crazy.
@ayaNjah
@ayaNjah 5 месяцев назад
Who gives a f! That's the job they signed up for, ungrateful sacks. They could have rather turned it over to someone else. I will never feel sorry for them, this was their jobs, people have been working on series longer! They just wanted to do star wars, and now they suck and most people won't ever watch anything they produce again. Good job guys🙄😒
@KristenYolanda
@KristenYolanda 5 месяцев назад
2:02 exactly!
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