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@TheLux008
@TheLux008 6 лет назад
I think giants in the earth are just their way of referring to seismic activity. When there's an earthquake it really does feel like giants below you are moving around, waking up.
@asharadaynedragonblood1803
@asharadaynedragonblood1803 6 лет назад
TheLux008 ...and Dragons in the sky are meteor showers. The Doom was a meteor impact, the Long Night followed, as the sky turned dark of smoke and blocked the sun. The atmosphere cooled and winter came.
@23uncbball
@23uncbball 5 лет назад
I always liked the theory their was a second Moon and it blocked out the sun before it was destroyed. The lack of the second Moon could be why the seasons got screwed. Maybe we should call pain from Naruto to fix it using plantery devastation lol
@post-leftluddite
@post-leftluddite 5 лет назад
The doom of valyria happened long after the long night, many thousands of years after....in fact, the Valyrian freehold didn't even exist when the Long Night occurred
@asharadaynedragonblood1803
@asharadaynedragonblood1803 5 лет назад
@@post-leftluddite I was referring to the Long Night 1.0, not the Doom of Valyria. I think we can state it fact that dragons existed long before Valyria even existed. So my guess is: dragons were around in the Dawn Age when LN1.0 happened. Perhaps the "falling star" was a dragon?! Maybe, maybe it was a fallen star literally.
@k-la-k6828
@k-la-k6828 3 года назад
Sounds like Attack on Titan
@TomDean3004
@TomDean3004 6 лет назад
The Others would be ice giants from the Children of the Forest’s point of view
@FirCorred
@FirCorred 6 лет назад
Tom Dean - ok, that's got me thinking. Song is about different viewpoints/perspectives, right? Anyway, why does no one ever mention the Heart of Winter? It's not a question of why the Others came back, they've been around all along, if we believe the Free Folk... Question is, what makes them step forward now? In Bran's flying dream, he sees the reason why he must live and change, waiting at the Heart of Winter, beyond the aurea borealis of the Ice+FireWorld. Description sounds-to me-like it's the northern pole, the strongest force there would be magnetism... Hell, I'm sorry, was just thinking out loud. That's what you get for making me think (:
@silentgunshotgonzalez7551
@silentgunshotgonzalez7551 6 лет назад
Children of the forest : THE WAR IS WON !!!! PRAISE THE OLD GODS !!! First men : Hold my beer .....
@gilbertoignacioaguirrevarg4550
@gilbertoignacioaguirrevarg4550 4 года назад
Actually, the old gods became old when westeros adopted the seven, si technicaly, it's just the gods...
@leonthecool123
@leonthecool123 6 лет назад
George RR Martin probably watch this channel and thinks” well they figured out everything, I don’t need to release anymore books
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 лет назад
hahaha...I'd settle for learning he's heard of us
@undarkwin
@undarkwin 6 лет назад
them and freaking Preston!😂😂😂 They enterteined us while GRRM hasn't published books but at the same time they are the very reason GRRM no longer writes, lol Sounds like something GRRM would do/write
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 6 лет назад
LOL
@cbob213
@cbob213 6 лет назад
The Order of the Green Hand did you get Greenhand gold from somewhere? His official coin maker or something?
@jasonhowell7601
@jasonhowell7601 5 лет назад
I hope the books to come do the others/white walkers more justice than that sorry excuse of a finale season, on the show we learned next to nothing, I am sure GRRM will do much, much, better, if he ever finishes the books of course. Thanks for your insightful take on this from the books, keep up the good work.
@johnathankinne3998
@johnathankinne3998 6 лет назад
Even the hammer of the waters would be an effect of seismic activity. An earthquake under the fourteen flames would easily result in the Doom. "Giants in the earth". This is why I love this channel. I think the "horn of Joramun " was actually a ritual, with a name that when interpreted literal, leads one to think this was an actual horn, and maybe blowing a horn is part of the ritual. Waking the Others as a result makes so much sense as well.
@kianaingram657
@kianaingram657 6 лет назад
Lady Green Hand: SO, let’s do THIS! ME: *SCREAMS*
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 лет назад
hahaha! love this!
@Jockeylotforfun
@Jockeylotforfun 6 лет назад
There definitely seems to be an undercurrent within the story of "elementals", Fire, Ice, Water, Forests, Sky or stars, and possibly more, being the old Gods "beyond counting". I'd love to know where Grrm is taking us. Come on Winds of winter! Great job Love QOT.🌹 😊
@jhherkert
@jhherkert 6 лет назад
"The Ice Dragon" = The Others, "The Shadow Cat" = Lion of Night, "The Moonmaid" = Maiden Made of Light, and "The Sword of the Morning" = The First King
@ReignofIndepence
@ReignofIndepence 6 лет назад
I am so enthralled with the way you guys pointed out just how good a fighter Mance is whilst being glammared as The Lord of Bones. Mance has not once been renowned as such a skilled warrior once until he easily beat a battle hardened Lord Snow
@gabriellaminerva1
@gabriellaminerva1 6 лет назад
Yaaassss!!!!!! I have been itching for you guys to drop another video. How awesome is it that you mentioned King Hoare and his link to black blood. IIRC, one of the Maesters (cant remember who) mentioned the Hoare line descended from the Andals which created a line of black haired, black eyed and black hearted kings. Which immediately makes me think of Euron and his black hair and one great black eye, and how spooky is it that he has a underling named Harran Half-Hoare. I think Euron is Harren the Black come again with his slave blood sacrifices, only his version of Harrenhall is the Silence on the Sea. I'll be re-watching this video until the next one drops. Awesome job Greenhand!! Love you guys!!
@shavedata5436
@shavedata5436 6 лет назад
I don't really see the connection between the doom and the breaking, and the relevance to Bran's dream. The one word you're hinging on to make it work is the mention of "blood" in Bran's dream and the doom passage, where in the doom it was "the blood of demons", as in fiery volcanic meteors, while in Bran's dream it was "thick black [faceless] blood" which could be connected to Qyburn and Gregor/Robert Strong or Faceless Men, but not Valyria. That doesn't mean the Faceless men didn't cause the doom, but I question it's connection to the breaking.
@brandonjeffi5976
@brandonjeffi5976 5 лет назад
Did you watch the video? They outline several other similarities before mentioning the blood
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195
@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 4 года назад
@@brandonjeffi5976 They are not saying that they don't see the connection between the doom and the h.o.w., but the connection with those two AND Bran's dream. The all three, not just the two.
@itsnotatoober
@itsnotatoober 4 месяца назад
Yes
@SuperClassics101
@SuperClassics101 6 лет назад
Love your videos! My favorite one is still the one dissing the whole Rheagar and Lyanna thing. I was laughing hysterically throughout the whole thing.
@alanl.4252
@alanl.4252 6 лет назад
This is a little off topic, but when watching your dorne and aegon videos it crossed my mind that the stories of Aegon and Nymeria are strikingly similar to one another. Both figures go and conquer divided kingdoms after the destruction of their homeland and create their own unified kingdoms out of the chaos. Aegon witnesses the destruction of the Freehold during the Doom, Nymeria witnesses the destruction of the Rhoynar at the hands of the dragon lords. Aegon went on to unify a divided Westeros while we see Nymeria unify a divided Dorne. Just thought it was a neat coincidence is all.
@wolfsbanealphas617
@wolfsbanealphas617 6 лет назад
Francis Ivan Xavier7vs13 it’s sad that their raves could never get along they could’ve counqured the world I also feel like the wrong people were born at the wrong time if she had been born then they might have gotten along since polygamy is a thing in their society
@mvalthegamer2450
@mvalthegamer2450 3 года назад
Well, Aegon was born almost a hundred years after the doom
@booknerdlover3675
@booknerdlover3675 6 лет назад
After a long, hot day at a job with no air conditioning, it's soooo nice to come home and see a new video! Let's do this!!!
@kwgrid
@kwgrid 6 лет назад
Old Valyria sounds like Atlantis.
@brawleyk4530
@brawleyk4530 6 лет назад
Was starting to think the others took you! Looking forward to quality production as usual!
@MsCastle1996
@MsCastle1996 6 лет назад
God I love these theories. You don't mind if I binge watch all of them? Again Best. ASOIAF. Theories. Ever Now feed me more of that high quality content
@l2i2algonquin80
@l2i2algonquin80 6 лет назад
MsCastle Preston Jacobs eats these theories for breakfast then pulls a Tywin and shits them out gold.
@genesismarcum1395
@genesismarcum1395 6 лет назад
You’re back! Love your vids. Hope all is better with you and yours!
@obsidian00
@obsidian00 6 лет назад
Another great vid...you two seem to be the only ones giving some real thought to this masterpiece!
@justchris1155
@justchris1155 6 лет назад
You guys are still rocking the theories, absolutely eye opening. Hbo should hire you as researchers.
@bigbucketbrucey2479
@bigbucketbrucey2479 6 лет назад
Thanks guys for the great vids, always times up with work here in Aus so make the day better
@alienazed
@alienazed 6 лет назад
FINALLY! i was doing a marathon your vids again and again this week!
@AWW8472
@AWW8472 6 лет назад
If the same kind of magic that destroyed Valyria was used on the Arm of Dorne long before the Doom, I think it wasn't the Children of the Forest who broke the Arm. I think the First Men did it. If they were fleeing from the evils brought on by the Blood Betrayal they might want the added protection of the Narrow Sea, which would include the deities known to live there.The Lion of Night and his demons would have to contend with the Mother Royne and her children before they made theIr way to the Stepstones after crossing the Bones, if they were so inclined. I mean why would the Lion of Night stop at the Great Empire of the Dawn? Unless something or someone prevented him from spreading his wrath westward toward the Narrow Sea and into Westeros? Also, why do we believe the version of the Breaking recorded by the Maesters in the WOIAF? Perhaps Brandon the Builder went east after building the Wall and helped beat back the forces of the Lion of Night and then built the Five Forts? The legends say the Last Hero treated with the Children of the Forest, but that could have happened in Essos with the Ifequevron or Wood-walkers.
@treehouse318
@treehouse318 6 лет назад
i just love you guys so much. thank you for another awesome video!😊
@benagaran20
@benagaran20 5 лет назад
The Others were woken by Hot Pie discovering the secret of browning the butter first. It smelled damn good and now they are heading to the Inn at the crossroads to get themselves some pies.
@pankratos5017
@pankratos5017 8 месяцев назад
This would certainly be the story's plot if it had been written by Terry Pratchett!
@madambutterfly1997
@madambutterfly1997 6 лет назад
The theories claim that Bran's birth awoke them in the current story. Even though they were active long before even Rickard Stark was born
@radude83
@radude83 6 лет назад
Jggh
@ChuckECheeez
@ChuckECheeez 5 лет назад
Awoke when Varys was cut
@tylerbarrett6652
@tylerbarrett6652 Год назад
You know... considering the yin/yang thing, I have to wonder if there might be some pendulum effect going on here. The idea is to try to achieve a balance... but when the pendulum swings too far into darkness, it's swing back to the light is inevitable... isn't it? The farther it swings into darkness, the farther that pendulum is going to swing back into the light. So... perhaps we could consider that the Hammer of the Waters was a swing one way... and the doom of Valeria was a swing back the other way - though one's cause was frozen fire and the other fire... with the goal being a natural balance. I mean... it's hard for me to put the children on one side and the realm of men on another - because they are both living realms, and we are led to believe that this ultimate battle is between life and death. It's just confusing to try to keep everything straight, but I'm pretty sure we are looking for the Goldy Locks world... not too much magic, not too little.... not too much light, not too much darkness... not too much fire, not too much ice... The answer is to balance chaos and order... not for one to dominate the other... isn't it?
@molly-zx9cr
@molly-zx9cr 6 лет назад
Blood and corpses were also described as black in Old Norse texts. It’s usually referring to it being dark and related to death and not so much their actual color
@jadendred5448
@jadendred5448 6 лет назад
Ahh that ending. So good! Speaking of a massive tidal wave in one of the Victorian chapters when he is waiting for the lost iron fleet ships in the island of monkeys and stocking on pork it mentions that when the doom happened a massive wave broke all the trees when it passed so that pretty much confirms there was a tsunami in one thus both of those instances. Perhaps a linear/ circular path from the Valeria to that island would yield interesting observations on how truly devastating the doom was. What I'm most interested is if the wave reached that island did it reach Dorne? And is there a subtle mention of it? Might explain those caves...
@Cronoo
@Cronoo 6 лет назад
Why you do that? Get me hooked on the cliff hanger, and make me wait. MOAR! haha
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 6 лет назад
Why can't the stone giant be Gregor? "A giant made of stone". Half (or a third) of the Titan is made of copper (iirc) and Gregor Clegane is the mountain that rides. And mountains are made of stone. It makes sense in the context of the scene with Bran talking about the King's party, Sandor ("with the face of a hound") and Jaime ("golden and beautiful" just as Bran describes him in his dreams of being pushed from the tower "things I do for love"). Also about the "black blood of demons" it could be tar or something a volcanic matter.
@ShadeStormXD
@ShadeStormXD 2 года назад
this is how i read it as well, just fits too perfectly rather than the titan which requires a lot more argument, guesswork and stretching
@ReignofIndepence
@ReignofIndepence 6 лет назад
Love your videos. I'm hooked. Love the Arthur Dayne theory too.
@gavomorg2948
@gavomorg2948 6 лет назад
Brilliant as always guys
@matthewbroestl3635
@matthewbroestl3635 6 лет назад
Just found you guys randomly and so happy I did! Great video, I subscribed and looking forward to more 😃
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 лет назад
Thank you so much
@Maibuwolf
@Maibuwolf 6 лет назад
They are one of the few GoT related channels on youtube that are not just vomiting out the most popular reddit theories to try and get views. It is quite refreshing. Even if all of their theories end up being wrong i still find it more enjoyable than listening to a video about some shit i have already heard 1000 times.
@scottmerryman
@scottmerryman 6 лет назад
YES. Thank you again m'lord and m'lady!!!!
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 лет назад
Thank you for your patience
@scottmerryman
@scottmerryman 6 лет назад
The Order of the Green Hand happy to wait. Waiting on pins and needles for the ironborn
@morellanaghenz778
@morellanaghenz778 6 лет назад
As always, amazing work! This theory is way better than the show version of children of the forest stabbing one guy to make the “night king” and that is it. There’s similarities between the two ideas, but yours is much more developed
@tracywhitlock5395
@tracywhitlock5395 6 лет назад
Great video as always guys!!! It must take forever to make, record and edit these videos...your time and energy is much appreciated!!
@liamlepocher7540
@liamlepocher7540 6 лет назад
Thank god they're back! more videos plz
@skylersd
@skylersd 6 лет назад
Whenever the Others appear, they always seem to come during great times of turmoil, when Westeros is least prepared and already at war. The first time being the war with the First Men against the Children of The Forest and the Giants. Now, with the War of the Five Kings along with Daenerys' invasion, which seems to correspond with the First Men's invasion.
@dustinsmith2021
@dustinsmith2021 6 лет назад
I needed this. Thank you so much for your hard work.
@MartinNagy_mnagy
@MartinNagy_mnagy 6 лет назад
Don't you think that "waking giants from the earth" is just a metaphor for earthquakes? It seems to me that for a medieval people, giants in the earth sounds like a great explanation for an earthquake.
@MrScottie301
@MrScottie301 6 лет назад
You two need to stop making me rethink things every time I watch your video!! Great stuff
@cmschmidt
@cmschmidt 6 лет назад
I find the Iron Born and the Drowned God fascinating and I can’t wait for those videos. This is a really interesting theory. The greatest threat to the living was sort of an oopsie side effect of some hard core magic. Really reinforces the fact that all magic has a price that is paid by the ones wielding it.
@debodatta7398
@debodatta7398 6 лет назад
Been waiting for this all week!
@VanHonkerton
@VanHonkerton 6 лет назад
"One shadow was dark as ash, with the terrible face of a hound" is clearly Sandor, "Another was armored like the sun, golden and beautiful." is clearly Jamie and the third is The Mountain (zombie)
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 лет назад
why would the Mountain have stone armor? it seems to me that the third shadow was a mystical being that was watching them...the Mountain wasn't there
@pankratos5017
@pankratos5017 8 месяцев назад
​@@TheOrderoftheGreenhandBecause mountains are made of stone.
@RevealTheStyle
@RevealTheStyle 6 лет назад
Long availed video! Thank you, The Order of the Green Hand! Lots of love from Belarus 🇧🇾❤️
@thisguy8106
@thisguy8106 6 лет назад
So good. So damn good. Thank y'all!
@Allconjecture
@Allconjecture 6 лет назад
This is why yours is The Only Game of Thrones content I recommend to people
@liv9589
@liv9589 6 лет назад
Kvothe I'd also recommend Preston Jacobs
@leiflohne3096
@leiflohne3096 6 лет назад
WOW!! This is one great channel!! I'm so gonna watch a lot during the summer!!!
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 лет назад
Thank you
@leiflohne3096
@leiflohne3096 6 лет назад
I subscribe! I am blown away! And you guys have great voices!!
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 лет назад
Thanks. I just got over the flu so I’m glad it wasn’t too noticeable
@LaurensCorner
@LaurensCorner 6 лет назад
As always, well worth the wait. Green Hand for eternity
@RobbyH94
@RobbyH94 4 года назад
I'm new to the channel, but I'm super impressed by the level of detail in the videos I've seen so far.
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 4 года назад
thank you
@Mantorch
@Mantorch 6 лет назад
Can't wait to see what you'll amaze us with this time!
@thisguy8106
@thisguy8106 6 лет назад
I've been holding my breath waiting for this video!.. So now I'm watching through the weirwood net. Lol
@malmorbidus2788
@malmorbidus2788 6 лет назад
maybe the old gods are similar to those native american lore, where they are literally part of the flora and fauna, the earth. and so clearing it all away in the name of some gods from another place woke up an ancient power within it all. it's protecting itself.
@bbunnyscribe
@bbunnyscribe 5 лет назад
This is why I am so excited for Fire & Blood to come out because I honestly feel like there is information contained within that is pertinent to the main series. We all know George's world has gotten so expansive that he probably needed to take a step back and write more history just to fill in gaps that he wouldn't sufficiently be able to do within the last two books. It's short-sighted of people to get angry about Fire & Blood coming out before TWOW, imo.
@deserttortoise6077
@deserttortoise6077 6 лет назад
You guys are the best fan theory channel on RU-vid.
@bungalowfeuhler1541
@bungalowfeuhler1541 Год назад
Waking giants in the earth sounds like an old-timey way of saying there was an earthquake.
@nickgreen9080
@nickgreen9080 6 лет назад
They woke to stop catelyn
@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive
@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive 6 лет назад
Brilliant 😂
@darylchurch2115
@darylchurch2115 4 года назад
The Stoneheart must be stopped! ÒwÓ
@krissaunders6418
@krissaunders6418 Год назад
This just occurred to me. The Breaking and the Dum were geological events. If both happened simultaneously, there could be enough volcanic ash to cause a global cooling event. If Winter hits at the same time, then the Long Night = A long Winter + Global Cooling by volcanos. Then there is the world getting darker due to the ash in the air. If the other grew in strength due to the mass sacrifice as well, causing the erratic winters in the first place. Then the world of ASoIaF is messed up due to the acts of men. Thus making it a metaphor for man-made climate change. A real-world example of this is The Great Collapse. It is thought that an Icelandic volcano erupted and its ash cloud hung over the Mediterranean and Middle east. Causing food shortages and eventually the collapse.
@jennyr4057
@jennyr4057 5 лет назад
great video! subscribed!
@jjvoity7797
@jjvoity7797 6 лет назад
Have you read "The Ice Dragon" by GRRM? It pre-dates anything written about SoIaF, and the battling kingdoms in it cannot be placed. You have to uncomfortably shoehorn the setting in. But there are huge, huge, huge similarities that really jump out at you such that it looks very much like a proto-Westeros, I won't spoil the story for you and any other reader except one little facet. Anyway, my point, during winter, the Ice Dragon appears and it is much bigger than any dragon the King's riders' have. But the Ice Dragon only comes in Winter. Here's the spoiler part: the enemy kingdom's dragons are winning the war and come to the girl's village, the Ice Dragon she is connected to comes to save her. But this occurs in the middle of summer, until then, she's never seen him in summer. It's clearly only come to save her as it senses that she is in extreme danger. The Ice dragon in summer is still quite strong and powerful to be sure but is much smaller, less grand, is constantly melting, and is far, far weaker than it is in winter.
@paulkuch420
@paulkuch420 6 лет назад
YEAH YEAH! THANX FOR ALL UR VIDS
@commanderdanielcousland9981
@commanderdanielcousland9981 5 лет назад
Current guess, Lord manderly, the Lord of old wyk, and our favorite Pentoshi Magister sat down at the same time a lot faster than anyone expected.
@davewdriscoll
@davewdriscoll 6 лет назад
The Breaking of The Doom down! Nice work..
@nohashtagshere4116
@nohashtagshere4116 6 лет назад
Finally the ironborn!!!
@dratheart
@dratheart 6 лет назад
PS- Guys, I believe some of the German Nazis spoke of "the giants" that would join them in The Reich but to them "the giants" merely represented "the supermen", giants of power and "purity of blood" I believe - it doesn't actually mean giants as creatures of incredible size but incredible power instead. How can we be sure that GRRM didn't mean "giants" in that usage rather than the common parlance?
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 лет назад
That’s very close to where I was originally going with it until we remembered the legend of the ice giants
@adamantiiispencespence4012
@adamantiiispencespence4012 6 лет назад
Not necessarily Frederick the Great of Prussia was obsessed with the idea of having an army of giants. And to some extent he got one he had an entire regiment of the vertically. The shortest man in that regiment was 6'7 or 6'8.
@pallerdog
@pallerdog 6 лет назад
Using my geologic comprehension: the giants caused a MASSIVE claw impact UNDERNEATH the crust of the planet causing the claw-shaped set of islands where the land bridge once was. The planet is just one large dragon egg. Except a claw of a dragon to dwarf the size of the wall when it returns to set the planet back on course.
@chrispage8716
@chrispage8716 6 лет назад
The death of dragons is what woke the WW magic was out of balance giving them the opportunity to bring down the wall
@scottie16976
@scottie16976 6 лет назад
Great video. Looking forward to the Ironborn video. Noticed you tacked on a pic of Harwyn Hoare near the end. In Brans falling vision when he sees the giant armored in stone with black blood. The "armored in stone" part always made me think of the Titan of Braavos. But the black blood makes me think of House Hoare. Harren and his sons in Harrenhall, the black blood of House Hoare, was armored in stone. There is a line in the world book when Aegon and Harren the Black parley outside Harrenhal," Yield now," Aegon began, "and you may remain as Lord of the Iron Islands. Yield now, and your sons will live to rule after you. I have eight thousand men outside your walls." "What is outside my walls is of no concern to me," said Harren. "Those walls are strong and thick." "But not so high as to keep out dragons. Dragons fly." "I built in stone," said Harren. "Stone does not burn." To which Aegon said, "When the sun sets, your line shall end." Is this giant some descendant? I know Harren's brother was Lord commander at the Wall at that time. The building and destruction of Harrenhal (to me anyway) is like a mini doom of Valyria. thousands of captives/slaves died to build a great monument to a proud King These captives/slaves must have prayed for death like the slaves in the Valyrian mines. The Children must have been angered by the destruction of the weirwods to make the rafters and beams, and all this on the shores of the Gods Eye in full view of the isle of Faces. Could the CotF have somehow influenced Aegon to come to Westeros to bring an end to this?
@ShadeStormXD
@ShadeStormXD 2 года назад
tbh i read it as bran seeing the hound, jamie and lastly the undead mountain, since his head was sent to appease dorne. so when he lifts his visor theres nothing underneath, other than whatever bile and blood qyburns experiments left behind
@scottie16976
@scottie16976 2 года назад
@@ShadeStormXD Hope you're having a merry christmas. The scene reads like it's the Mountain(I agree) and it probably is but this was a Greenhand vid so your always looking for that alternative explanation. The thing about this scene (IMO)is that everything that Bran sees is happening at that moment(more or less). It doesn't read like a prediction of the future. The 'storm' ahead of Cat and ser Rodrick could be the drama they're heading into in Kings Landing but in the next Cat chapter she recalls a storm they hit off Dragonstone. In my own personal head canon(at the moment lol) the stone giant is Littlefinger (Titan of Braavos Baelish sigil). Who knows? It could just be as simple as you say and it's the Mountain.
@SofiaBorbolet
@SofiaBorbolet 6 лет назад
You seem to have cold I hope you feel better soon. Really like your videos. Thank you
@itaipee
@itaipee 6 лет назад
Great video. Can't wait to your podcast with PJ..
@jimboy3625
@jimboy3625 6 лет назад
I think the tidal wave associated with Jorumans Horn taking the wall down would be the wall itself, it's a giant frozen wave that would crash down. Great video as always!
@SvenTuSventu
@SvenTuSventu 6 лет назад
So Jenny of old stones and the blood of nearly all the royals at summer hall is the REAL reason. I know you didn't say that but you made me think it.
@popalupa4844
@popalupa4844 5 лет назад
Sounds like Bran's falling dream is referencing Gregor Clegane, rather than the Titan of Braavos.
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 5 лет назад
a lot of people think that, but I don't understand why the Mountain would be there looming over everyone, from a literal or symbolic standpoint
@popalupa4844
@popalupa4844 5 лет назад
The Order of the Green Hand I always got the impression that it was because the Mountain represents the brutal reality of knighthood. He is standing over the golden knight and the knight of flowers to show show how the institution of knighthood is tainted by that brutality, as well as to juxtapose it with common perceptions of knights.
@TurinInquisitor
@TurinInquisitor 5 лет назад
TO SHOW YOU THE POWER OF FLEX TAPE I CRACKED THIS HORN IN HALF. gl sounding it Sam!
@Tellemicus
@Tellemicus 6 лет назад
You know the tale about the Last Hero and how he enlisted the Children? What if all the different tales surrounding and the different heroes from different lands were true? They were a band of heroes who all fought against the dark and went in search of the Children, but tragically all but one died while on the journey? That is why he's called the 'last hero'!
@AWW8472
@AWW8472 6 лет назад
And why do we think the Last Hero treating with the Children of the Forest happened in Westeros? Woodwalkers in Essos...
@tulkas42o22
@tulkas42o22 6 лет назад
I've heard a theory that the whight viserion from the show isn't an ice dragon. It spews blue flame where as an ice dragon doesn't spew fire. I hope for this because I have zero faith in D&D seeing grr Martins vision all the way through. They already fucked it up with sansa unless Harry the heir turns out to be a sadist as well. Who else is rooting for an ice dragon. In the books that is. Rumor has it that in the show jon becomes king but abdicates once he is done with his "hour of the wolf". ;)
@TonyTheProphecy
@TonyTheProphecy 6 лет назад
I'm late... but i'm here let's do this 🤓👂
@johndaly5268
@johndaly5268 6 лет назад
Fiiiiiiiiiiinaly!!!!!!! I hope lady greenhands mother is feeling better
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 лет назад
Sorry for the wait. And thank you so much. m’lady’s mother is making tremendous progress
@scottmerryman
@scottmerryman 6 лет назад
Glad to hear she's faring well!
@Jockeylotforfun
@Jockeylotforfun 6 лет назад
The Order of the Green Hand I'm delighted to hear that she's making progress. It's a difficult journey for the patient and family. I'll keep all of you in my prayers, love QOT.🌹
@johndaly5268
@johndaly5268 6 лет назад
Glad to hear she's doing better. Your iron born videos are going to be epic! That section of TWOIAF was one of the most interesting parts in my opinion
@serlawrenceharlem6715
@serlawrenceharlem6715 6 лет назад
I needed some clarity.
@krakentacos
@krakentacos 6 лет назад
I'm subscribed and a patreon but I got no notice this was up.....Great video!!!..as usual.
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 лет назад
We’ve been doing this for a while now and still don’t understand why some subs don’t get notifications sometimes. It doesn’t make sense to me but just about every time we release a video a few people tell us they didn’t get the notification
@ShaunshankRedemption
@ShaunshankRedemption 6 лет назад
The Order of the Green Hand i didnt get one either and im pretty sure it unsubbed me from notifications too
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 лет назад
I don’t get it. At one point I was convinced that the notifications go out sporadically over the first week but I have no idea whether that’s correct either
@redcd3743
@redcd3743 6 лет назад
i like the part with the faceless men's meddling (they're always involved when sh*t goes down), and the inference about the giant in Bran's dream being Littlefinger and not the mountain (#refreshing), but on the rest i failed to see the innovation (which is what i usually expect from your theories)... there are so many more factors to keep in mind: the andals, the pact(s), the previous long night(s) and its (their?) resolution(s), dragons in westeros, plus the fact that the doom was several hundreds of years past current events. And to add to the tinfoil: the night's king, the starks in winterfel, the sacrifices (tie queen Allysane), Craster sacrificing his boys for some decades, the "meeting" during Dany's wedding, the magic awakening and so on...
@michelerowell3467
@michelerowell3467 6 лет назад
Needed this in my life today!
@daisyvision
@daisyvision 6 лет назад
What springs to mind is Macumber from the show, and Oberyn's line "Some believe the sky is blue because we live inside the eye of a blue-eyed giant." Makes you wonder!
@MrFirextinguisher
@MrFirextinguisher 6 лет назад
Let’s do this! Hope you guys add having a great summer, when’s the royal wedding?
@lesvosace602
@lesvosace602 6 лет назад
Nice work
@smdcuolive6700
@smdcuolive6700 6 лет назад
Have a drink every time one of them says, quote on quote "quote on quote"
@smdcuolive6700
@smdcuolive6700 6 лет назад
No Offence intended, long time fan. Keep it up you guys are brilliant!
@GoogleUserOne
@GoogleUserOne 6 лет назад
do you mean they say it excessively? or they have it wrong? or do you have it wrong? I’m confused.
@craptastiko6513
@craptastiko6513 5 лет назад
Hannibal Lector said ,"have you ever seen blood in the moonlight, it appears quite black."
@mickdundee364
@mickdundee364 6 лет назад
yay! you're back! pls don't leave me again lol
@Biderbeck
@Biderbeck 6 лет назад
nice work
@jacoppolopolis
@jacoppolopolis 6 лет назад
I thought it was pretty obvious that in the AGOT Bran 3 that "one was as dark as ash, with the terrible face of a hound. Another was armored like the sun, golden and beautiful. Over them both looked a giant in armor made of stone, but when he opened his visor there was nothing inside but darkness and thick black blood" was Sandor Clegane, Jamie Lannister, and Sir Robert Stong, The mountain. Not sure how you go the titan of braavos out of that. It's almost literal based off the way George describes certain characters in certain chapters
@NegativePleasure
@NegativePleasure 6 лет назад
Is it wrong that I mostly use your videos to help me sleep? You two have really good narrative voices.
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 лет назад
not at all...I guess we'd probably prefer that you were awake when you watched them, but we're in no position to be choosy...it still seems almost surreal that people actually click on our videos
@9trevor9
@9trevor9 6 лет назад
Maybe the doom is the Summer equivelent of the long night.
@serbowdster2311
@serbowdster2311 6 лет назад
Lovin this vid guys.
@guudnewdle6910
@guudnewdle6910 6 лет назад
Clearly it must have been the exalted screams from Tormund and his bear xD
@OscyJack-
@OscyJack- 6 лет назад
Great video as always, interested to see how this topic will shake up. I personally think that Giants of the Earth is more referring to a deity class (drowned god, , the great other, the guy hanging out in the caves in essos where no one goes and comes back, some fiery version. A class like tolkiens maiar/ainur. Ice/fire>water/earth>valyrians/children>men. I think that the children are able to call upon the Giants of the Earth in relation to the event of doom that occurs. IE, call upon the drowned god for the hammer of water, what fire giant there is for the doom of valyria. Call upon the giant of ice to create the others. A race perhaps that predates the children /valyrians that may be embodiments of ice/fire or still below the two main balancing forces. Sorry if that's abstract, keep up the good work
@Cojer52
@Cojer52 6 лет назад
This is just a part one video, right? Cause we need more.
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 лет назад
there will be other videos related to what we talked about in this one, but we probably won't turn this into a series...the Ironborn series ties closely into some of the stuff we breezed over in this video
@wolfsbanealphas617
@wolfsbanealphas617 6 лет назад
Hey orderofthegreenhand do you guys think the volantene and bravvos where and are in a alliance to destory the dragonlords in return for this deed done the next 100 years otherwise known as the century of blood the volantiene were paying for the debt they owed the bravvos in order to be the singular rulers of essos
@lady_wasser
@lady_wasser 6 лет назад
Great job, Amazing video, can’t wait for the ironborn. Can’t even imagine how many hours took you guys to make the research and the video! Thank you 🙏🏽
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 лет назад
thank you...it takes more time than I'd care to admit
@lady_wasser
@lady_wasser 6 лет назад
The Order of the Green Hand and that’s why the results are always a master piece!
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 лет назад
thank you so much...we just love the challenge of trying to figure out what the heck is going on in this masterpiece of a series
@PBRStreetgang
@PBRStreetgang 6 лет назад
Been looking forward to this! : ) The Others are a key aspect of the Old Powers, and we know so little. I have also come to terms with the fact that the Breaking and the Doom were the same event, seen from different accounts and perspectives. Also, isn't it strange how often we are drawn back to Bran III, more than any other chapter in the entire series?
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand
@TheOrderoftheGreenhand 6 лет назад
That falling dream is loaded with information
@PBRStreetgang
@PBRStreetgang 6 лет назад
It is truly amazing how George wrote that chapter, so early with so much information. He says he doesn't like writing when he knows where the story is going, but the layers of mystery and foreshadowing in the first novel are too impressive to believe that.
@wolfsbanealphas617
@wolfsbanealphas617 6 лет назад
Glad to here that your mother's doing better also I just wanted to let you know that their is another group of gaints in the east called Jhogwin is the Dothraki name[1] for the stone giants that once inhabited the Realm of the Jhogwin, the northernmost region of the snowcapped Krazaaj Zasqa in northern Essos. They were massive creatures, said to have been twice as large as the giants of Westeros.[2]