Smth I want to note is that pillagers don't actually attack you. Not like other mobs. When a raid is triggered if a player is nearby illagers will fight them with the main goal of killing the villagers. If you get too close to an outpost or mansion you're probably invading so they're defending themselves. And out on patrol pillagers have a certain distance before they notice you and an even closer distance before they aggro. They try to warn you to back off by loading their crossbows and if you get closer they'll chase you down, unlike zombies and skeletons who will attack you as soon as they spot you. I don't think they're attacking you because you remind them of the ancient builders, they're much less hostile to you than they are the other living humanoids in Minecraft, Villagers. They're always provoked in some way before attacking the player but if they see a villager they'll aggro even on patrol.
But why would they attack you because you’re invading them if they know you’re a descendent from the ancient builders who they were really close friends with?
@@ToastedWaterIsYummy I think maybe because they dont know who youre even you resemble the ancient builder. Thats why the will attack you. After all we will attack them also for the loot 😜
I love the clip from hermitcraft where Grian and Impulse distracted a warden with other sounds, but that's nothing compared to Docm77 using them to fill up the mob cap for a mining machine.
All instances of lore in this episode: 0:14 “Attempting to remove threat” 1:01 “Attempting to remove threat” 1:45 “Threats Blocked: We blocked one or more programs from suspiciously accessing your files. No further action required.” 2:10 “Attempting to remove threat” 2:14 Glitch then message that reads “Interesting…” (Blue) “Most aren’t able to catch me infecting their systems.” (Green) “Impressive.” (Red) “Perhaps you can entertain me a little more.” (Green) “Find me…” (Blue) “before I find you.” (Red and shaking) 2:34 Duck logo with date “July 13th” on it
Yeah I am curious how we the player are so much seemingly stronger than the builders makes you think about how the player even came into being really if we knew that maybe that could explain the insane amounts of knowledge for crafting and such though seems in some technology not as advanced like not being able to craft end portal frames and stuff
@@vinsh8thesecondwe are close tho! we can build end crystals and even make conduits the frames may just be something that requires a tech we cant craft maybe we are closer tho, now even automating crafts
@@vinsh8thesecondWhat if the illagers created us 🤔 in the woodland mansions there is a room with the same wool colours as steve, blue and cyan 😳 maybe we were an experiment
What's really interesting is that the "ominous" trial keys depict three red-eyed black skulls, representing none other than the Wither. great video as always!
It is a really great analogy that the villagers are worshipping the ancient builders who left them behind, who were worshipping the gods that left them behind.
2:14, LORE!!!!!!!!!!??????? Also, the idea that 2 enemies working together to defeat a similar foe, and this really does tie perfectly together. I’m all for this theory video, and I love it!!!!! 😀👍
Tom exploring Minecraft lore: 😄👍 Random glitchy anonymous person/thing typing on the screen either teasing game theory’s lore which could be matpat secretly doing something or a teaser for an event or something bigger: 😱🤔🤨
14:12 The illagers were not idiots building portals out of wool. They were demonstrating. Designing. Experimenting. When the illagers down in the deep dark had finished the skulker portal, they had obtained new resources: skulk: a texture that is very similar to the end frame. It’s definitely an ingredient. But the illagers down there had not told the illagers up there, as they were too busy coming back to this old idea they had, coming at it with new resources available to them.
It seems like it's a totally new arg... Or is it? **"Jake Chudnow - Moon Men" starts playing** You see when this glitch happened I immediately thought that this is some how related with shorts wars, I mean it's supposed to happen on July this year and also some theorists were also dragged into this arg. I also stumbled upon a video made by JonnyRaZeR titled "Shorts Wars Season 3 Is Coming Next Month" and It was uploaded on 13th of June 2024, the same day that this thing is happening. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!
11:00 dude, you answered your own question. Clearly the breeze rods were also a resource in the past, just like blaze rods, but once the blaze and breeze were introduce to the nether and underground respectively, there weren't any left, causing the breeze and blaze to be the only way to get the rods now.
There’s direct evidence for blaze rods being around in the past, not for breeze rods. That’s why he didn’t use that explanation. The illager explanation also fit in to explain other things about the chamber, leading him to piece together that the breeze rods came from illagers. While it being around in the past was just guessing bc it was true for blaze rods, breeze rods coming from illagers fit into the larger narrative and theory.
@@NothingHere9911-blank well yeah. They were built, then introduced. Due to the lack of the resources to build them, they became the only source of those resources, they became part of the environment, in a way, despite being bound to a specific structure in each dimension.
In 2019, I theorized that the illagers were once allies of the Old Builders, but they felt betrayed by them after they disappeared. I can’t believe that a Game Theory video actually puts forth my old idea. Continue doing the good work.
Tom needs to do a video on Minecraft story mode. There’s literally a group called the ancient builders in it. One of the items they made were called the red stone heart, and most of them work on a minigames world (trial chambers could possibly a type of minigame to them)
If the ancient builders were able to make spawners, then what about the Silverfish spawners that we find at the End Portals? Did they make them to deter the pillagers from following? Or could the Silverfish be set there for another purpose? Were they meant to eat the Eyes of Ender, and cut off anyone, including the wither, Warden and anything else from following them? They can burrow and hide is blocks, so what do you think their purpose was?
July 13th it flashes up with the entity’s logo. That date must be important maybe we have to solve the arg before that date or something terrible will happen
9:07 so about that… the blaze doesn’t need a spawner to spawn. It just needs the nether fortress, kind of like how pillagers will spawn in the outposts.
I know you're right as far as the bedrock edition. I don't play a lot of Java, but I think it might be different in that version. I think in Java you genuinely do need to find a spawner to find a blaze.
@@riseandshine70 he does clarify that in the mob beastiary that the blaze only spawn from spawners, I would imagine them spawning naturally is just so the fortress feels more guarded and canonically they do only spawn from spawners
They still only occur in the fortress. Spawning "naturally" is likely implemented simply for gameplay reasons to prevent a soft lock since blazes are essential for game progression.
Something to consider. Mabye the trial chambers where ment to train Illigers. Givin that the sound effect for the start of a taid is a war horn similar to the one you hear in the ancient city music disk, they are the ones who use axes and crossbows, and the "guard towers" in the ancient cities share a design language with pilliger outposts and woodland mansions. That seams to suggest that the ancient builders fell back on using whatever mobs they could to fight the wither just like how they used them to fight the piglins.
I think the illagers were more in a form of servitude and were more like assistants, the windcsllers and rockers were most likely students of the ancient builders
Not going to lie. A full Minecraft timeline would be epic. Just bringing all the Minecraft theory videos together in a single watch would be amazing. Would definitely be a top 10 for me. EDIT: I realized after I commented that there already is one, but I think an updated one would be cool to
Here's another thing - the pottery sherd is named scrape because THE PLAYER thought that the AXE is related to scraping and waxing copper stuff when he saw chambers design; when he discovered one ! but actually the AXE was carved on, to tribute illagers, by ancient builders !
7:20 ish This actially makes a lot of sense. You have the bogged there to prepare them for the effects of wither (status effect), the breeze to get them ready for the knockback, the zombies to prepare them for fighting the wither skeletons hand to hand, and the vaults to reward them.
My current assumption is that the reason the ancient builders had to leave the surface is the zombie infection, since there isn't a wither running around when we started, (and they'd likely would have the armor and tools to take it down anyway) the infection is air born (aka piglin can be infected intantly one in the overworld), zombies are modled after steve, the average player, and that the new skelliton mob seems like a zombie half way to becoming a skelliton. Presumably there was a wither, it was defeated, then once the infection started. Many ran underground, since there were surviving underground builds from when the wither was a problem, (and the Nether, where the infection created zombie hoglin and the end where the builders became endearment) Edit: further to this theory: the ancient city doesn't have clear holes to the surface, or any kinda obvious route built in, they can spawn completely unconnected by caves, I belive that the warden k1lled the majority of the ancient builders and the zombie virus did the rest, the illagers weren't there (as they are immune) so the group making the ancient city's aren't the same as the group dealing with the wither, the trial chambers were made to test soldiers to fight the wither and once it was dead the zombies and skeletons were fused with the spawners creating the new poison skelliton mob, we also know that the group that went to the Nether brought it with them since zombie piglin exist in the Nether Edit: Thanks for all your input! My issue with warden kills the wither would have had to tunnel bore to the warden, we see no such tunnels, and while there is only one dragon there is implicitly multiple wardens, (Cause multiple city's) not to mention the wither, a mindless monster, wouldn't really have a good reason to go after the warden, or the builders since there was multiple settlements of humans still on the surface to go after. My guess is that we, the players, are similar to the illagers, while villagers and builders weren't immune and the builders forced into the nether and end, the player(s) and illagers were immune, Maybe we were even experimented on by them or what's left of the players, so now we are the only ones, that's why the illagers are against the player character(s), they want to reverse what happened, but without the understanding that the builders had and the access to many test subjects, now they are after the player(s) as their final chance? (I mean totems, the mickymousing of monuments, wool statues, captured spirits) I think skeletons are a form of the zombie Curse since they're classed as undead, but older but I'd love some other theories to what they are!
I think you are on to something. Especially since even now mobs are a "problem" to deal with. And, wither roses and the withering effect can be noted as decay, meaning the wither could have started the infection.
the wither was killed off by the warden and the illigers accedentally made zombies trying to recreate the builders, known because they have wool resembeling the zombies and by extention steves/the builders clothing in their mansions they made zombies with help of the power over life and death, this seen by the totems of undying letting you cheat death
something ppl don’t think about r the naming of mobs. if an ancient civilization existed, whatever they named their man made mobs didn’t survive. the “warden” “shulker” and other mythical mobs are creatures with names given by steve/the player character. the warden could’ve originally been called like sound activated golem or something. blazes could’ve been a fire charge but its alive so its infinite fire.
One idea I had was that the end portal used to be a two way portal. The reasoning for this is from a pervious theory saying that phantoms are pillagers recreation of the dragon also it allows players to go to the end then return with their valuables like ender pearls. Love the story you guys have uncovered about Minecraft and the videos that come along with it. :D
that phantom theory to me seems a bit far fetched at the moment and not concrete enough. it to me is one of those theories in which kinda just tries to glue things together by force to make some sense out of it. the end portal being a two way system tho, is already factual evidence. you can return from the end to the overworld again it just doesnt spit you back out of the portal which is likely just a gameplay element and not a story based element. story wise, the end portal could very well work this way however that part isnt concrete evidence to say for sure that it is. but the fact of it being a two way is factual. the nether portal is factual as well, maybe even the deep dark portal which they pretend isnt a portal, is possibly a two way but from what we can gather, is probally a 1 way so far. you can go in from either side but cant come back out. no evidence explains that the ancient builders returned from that deep dark portal since they likely activated and then escaped the wither or the wither managed to follow them in so for now its just a 1 way system.
In regards to the nether having no enchantments, Bastions have enchanted books mainly that of the soul speed, its possible the Piglins looted the enchanted books from the fortresses and stored in the bastions they call home.
@@Toasty146 I forget those are found in the nether. It feels really odd finding nether portals in the nether, but it makes sense. Enchanted Golden items as well in that loot table.
in the early days of minecraft, the nether did once actually have enchanted items within the chests of the nether fortress but likely was changed when they finally decided to fix the progressive system to obtain certain items from specific structures as well as going ahead with actually making a hidden story in minecraft in which they eventually removed them for those reasons. all i can remember them once having as enchanted items in those chests were notch apples along with enchanted gear. loot table is far different now tho.
i wouldnt think so. im not entirely sure on this but i think that piglins are aggressive to blazes meaning that i cant see them being able to steal loot from those chests. if this isnt the case though, it could make some sense here. ik that piglins are hostile to the player and also certain mobs in the nether and maybe even the overworld so its not out of the question with either outcomes.
@@unboxing_legend7708 The Piglin/Builder war could be very old. The Piglins likely looted the fortresses which then lead the Builders to construct the Blazes to defend from being raided constantly.
Cover Minecraft: Dungeons! The Wither didn't make the sound in Disk 5, it was an Endersent! Cover Minecraft Dungeons: The Rise of the Arch-Illager too, it's cannon! It has lore!
15:33 Its literally called "scrape" (as in, you use axes to scrape copper). Its CLEARLY an axe and I've never seen _anyone_ mistake it for a mace before.
I agree. Anyone who plays Minecraft would know what a "Scrape" sherd means, both by name and shape. I can't fathom how anyone would make that mistake, though I suppose he's elaborating for the non-minecraft players who might be watching the videos the way I watch the "That's Not My Neighbor", "Bendy", or "Shipwrecked 64" content. Wax-on / Wax-off, folks. And remember, Copper Grates make amazing windows.
For those who are wondering: the sound on the ARG thing is just a repeating sequence of "23456" using the alphabet from the Theorist Gateway ARG project a while back. It does require a 16,000+ hz range to see that though.
i love how minecraft went from a silly block game to an actual game filled with lore that most players come across but dont pay attention to, like the pottery shards
10:50 the answer is wind charges I think. Instead of blazes being created by blaze rods, they are created by fire charges and its the same for the breeze.
7:25 that makes sense since the trial spawners keep identities of separate players, like if you are done with your trial someone can still come and fight, and the more players there are the harder the challenge AND you get armour and weapons as reward if you succeed meaning you become part of the army!
This ain't a theory. it's so well put together, and everything fits that at this point, I believe it's a fact, and that the beauty of game theory, its almost always perfect
12:54 i dont really think the illagers have helped the ancient builders with making the ancient cities as the dark oak structures themselves look like they were built on top of whatever remained of the cities The illagers were most likely looting whatever remained of these gigantic cities and had made small scale restorations to help with said navigation aswell as literaly making small camps and mini outposts(possibly trying to take over these cities but eventualy they abandoned these camps and outposts as the warden proved to be too dangerous)
Apart from that, I think the pillagers were in ancient cities mainly for the warden. They wanted a weapon to help them fight in the period of minecraft dungeons. And that is what I think what disc 5 is, a recorded warden-summoning ceremony that clearly didn't go well. The first part of the disc would be the illagers marching through the city, then there's a cut, here they stopped recording because the warden killed everyone, and the last part would be the last pillager trying to escape with the recording and recorder. Eventually, the warden caught him and broke the disk as he killed him, causing distorsions.
8:37 I bet it is called scrape because that is what the player sees its purpose as, not a weapon, but a deoxidizing tool. I mean, why would we see it as an illager weapon anyway? Because we would not expect that.
Two problems based from the complete lore of minecraft and this video: 1. Didn't some ancient builders return from the end because the bedrock portal was supposedly unlocked (and the rest of the builders became enderman)? Why did most of the ancient builders stay in the end if food was running out? They hopped across two dimensions already, why couldn't they do the same for returning to the overworld? (If you are saying they were unsure of whether the portal led them back to the overworld, the went to the nether and the end unsure of the results, its not like they are afraid of dimension hopping again) Also the reason why we the player probably exist in the first place, because of the builders who returned. 2. If all the ancient builders went through the end portal into the end, why didn't the pillagers follow them too? If they supposely waited for the builders to return, and probably returned to the overworld, why didn't the builders do the same? The wither was already defeated anyways, and the warden is just trapped down in the caves. We the players nowadays can survive the warden, why couldn't the ancient builders mine to the surface but the pillagers managed to (assuming the pillagers did that cos no way the pillagers are staying underground with the warden) I know the lore is just a theory, but these are just some things I noticed while watching both videos, hopefully someone can answer them
@@donkeykong3119theres a theory that the giant skeletons in the soul sand valley were the ancient withers, much bigger and more powerful than our current wither. Also the ancient builders had no idea how to fight the wither and they had worse gear than the player
@@donkeykong3119 i would highly disagree on this specific video imo. theres alot here that makes a ton of sense and even way before this video came out, me and quite a few others within the community came to the same sort of conclusion to this specific part of the story being told, before the update came out and only hints were being dropped via new blocks and items and changes to how some gameplay elements now function. that isnt to say i and others are right however, would fully except if im wrong here however theres alot of very strong evidence that points to alot of this being correct enough to the story being told. you work alongside illigers and villigers in minceraft legends as a ancient builder or the mention of them exsisting still while you are playing minecraft legends and its not crazy to assume this story element was carried over from the game which was meant to piece together and make many hints to the story being told for minecraft, included in the main game. one of minecrafts legends main intentions was to create that massove story and build on it as well as explain the missing pieces to the story however the game flopped so its now being done via updates which is a genius idea imo.
I personally don’t think that the illagers were happily helping the ancient builders. The ancient builders kidnapped and utilised villagers so them doing the same with the Illagers is quite possible I think. Illagers are violent and heartless beings who attack anyone they can in Minecraft legends villagers were forced to fight against the piglins and help the ancient builders defeat the piglins doing so corrupted their minds with the ideologies of war Villagers are pacifists so nowadays that pacifist lifestyle has become stronger tenfold as a result of seeing what the villagers who chose violence became.
@@danger0977 I personally dont think the zombies were created as they too spawn naturally unlike the breeze they were peaceful beforehand the only reason why they attack the player is because of all the violence confusing their rotten minds piglins and humans are similar-looking and especially considering Pigs share 50% dna with humans IRL
9:10 uh..... blazes *do* spawn naturally in nether fortresses.... in areas *without* spawners.... so as far as i can tell, they do naturally exist and spawners only create more of them rather than being what originally made them in the first place.
This was another great video but please upload some shorts to give us some things IF Mat-Pat ever comes back, THE THEORYS JUST DONT FEEL THE SAME WHEN HE SAYS! “It’s just a Theory, A GAME THEORY!” I can only pray you find this, reads this, and do this 🥹🥹🥹
I thought the Scrape Sherd was part of the fact the building is made of Copper, as Axes can "scrape" oxidization off of Copper blocks (which is how you are intended to brighten the Copper Bulbs
