Game Theory: Super Mario Odyssey's GIANT Problem (Nintendo) 

Missed opportunity to call the backpacks "MatPacks"

I like how, even years after Mario Odyssey was released, this is the best explanation that we have.

"Who doesn't want a giant banana" yah I missed that 3 years ago

"Mexicoland" "Forest Land" "Kitchen Kingdom" "City" Well,he ain't wrong.

You guys had too much fun recording the merchandise part...

"Mario got a tiny banana." Oooh, so that's why peach gets 'kidnapped'.

I love how mat makes a joke that Mario has a tiny banana, then later makes a video about measuring Luigi’s and Mario’s ‘bananas’

Don’t forget, MatPat, the DK gigantism also applies to Donkey Kong himself. I looked it up, and I found out that Donkey Kong is about 8’ tall and, according to DK 64 (the only 3D game in the franchise), weighs exactly 800 lbs. Most silverback gorillas in real life are around 4’-6’ tall and weigh 300-500 lbs.

5:22 "There are triangles in Mexicoland" ^me trying to explain quesadillas

"Who doesn't want a large banana afterall"-MatPat 2017

NINTENDO:How are we gonna explain the giant humans? *watches the video NINTENDO:I am gonna steal that and act like that was the reason.

Ah yes, back when everyone thought that metro kingdom was super important when in fact it was just another kingdom. Ahhh... memories

Moral of the story: If you're short, eat bananas. Milk has lied to you the entire time

13:30 - "Mario has a tiny banana"... Ohno.

Matpat: “The much anticipated sequel to Super Mario Iliad” Me: there is a super mario Iliad?

Imagine a "I might have a gender, but that's just a theory!" shirt. That would actually be awesome- or in any sense, as in "I might be cool, but that's just a theory!", etc.

"Mario's got a tiny banana". MatPat said it.

It turned real quick from merchandise, to giant people, to matpat ranting about bananas

"Fashion is a science" 5 years later The greatest foreshadowing ever

I literally just spend an hour trying to find Super Mario Iliad

Wait, are these bananas related to the mighty bananas in Zelda: Breath of the Wild??

"Super Mario Iliad" Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.

The way I see this theory, it ties back to his story being raised in “Brooklyn, NY”. I think that New Donk City IS “Brooklyn, NY” & that Mario grew up there. Now the timeline’s messy with Mario in general (Yoshi’s Island to Partners In Time, for instance) but with this, my canon version of the timeline is that Yoshi Island games (SMW2, New, DS) is the beginning of Mario & his relationships, after he & Luigi was dropped off to their true parents in New Donk City to live happy lives. At one point, the Mushroom Kingdom was hosting a party & Mario’s parents brought along the two twins, leaving them to be babysat by Toadsworth. From there, he goes on a huge adventure with his future self & saving Baby Peach. As a baby, he gets inspired by the red & green heroes, so becomes more heroic in his actions & motives. But being a baby, he only has vague memory, if at all of his future self. So Mario grows up to around 18 years old, gets to work on Construction girders & in comes Donkey Kong, fresh from a recent captured from the Wooded Kingdom, kidnapping his childhood crush, Pauline. He raced to defeat Donkey Kong & capture him back up. The city thanked him for not just rescuing Pauline, but stopping the big ape, so they renamed the city to New Donk City, in a way to remember to event. (I don’t know the actual name of the city before the DK thing, so I think it was called Metro City, after the name Metro Kingdom is officially titled.) From there, Donkey Kong Jr. comes to rescue DK from Mario, who was hired to keep a close eye on the unruly ape, & they both escape to a distant island where they rule on their own. From there, Mario gradually went from construction to plumbing, with them soon finding a pipe leading directly to the Mushroom Kingdom, where Bowser had used his evil magic to turn the Toads into bricks. & the rest is history. Now, my personal explanation as to why Mario looks shorter than the people at New Donk. Same explanation with the super bananas, Mario grew accustomed to the Toad’s diet with plenty of fruits & veggies grown locally that naturally gives Toads their short stature, hence Mario being only 5 feet tall (more or less, this is general terms) Peach is the only one exempt from this, is because she’s a Princess, thus have access to foods from other kingdoms & lands, so she’ll have a more balanced diet outside of the Mushroom Kingdom’s usual, but she’s still shorter than New Donk’s citizens, so it’s mostly a genetic thing.

*”It’s just a-“* **Starts taking abt merch** Me: totally got caught off guard and thought he was gonna say *”it’s just a theory; a GAME theory”*

"who doesnt want a large banana after all?" *dirty mind activate*

The game hasn't even come out yet? Well then, that's just a theory..... a pre-release theory!

omg thats why Bowser always changes heights! he's been stealing bananas since the beginning, in which at that time he was tiny boi.

Or maybe Mario’s just really small. Matpat really overthinks everything.

This went a completely different direction than I thought it would I thought he was going to talk about how Mario is not human and possibly the same race as Peach, a mushroom

He really should have called the Backpacks, MattPacks. Get it... like Matt Patt but... Matt Pack. No? Ok.

3:15 Because fashion is a science. He was teasing style theory all the way back then.

Keep in mind, mario is also pretty short lmao. He’s canonically 5’1, so he is pretty short for like a 30-40 yr man. although that doesn’t mean these guys in new donk city aren’t tall

theory: the reason why Mario is shorter is because it would look weird if he was as tall as them because of his cartoonish style

People watching this after Odyssey comes out: Mayor Pauline

MatPat says he “hates” giving up: It fills him with DETERMINATION

''our logo is a circle, it's a match made in heaven'' other youtubers: huh, wish mine was

Mario: we’re not in the mushroom kingdom anymore toado IM DYING

"I don't quit" -matpat "Where's part two of the mass effect!?" -Me

"With Mettaton performing sprinkler duty" This made me laugh so hard, my parents were like "You ok?"

"who doesn't want a big bannana" -Matpat

13:28 - “Mwuh Mwuh Mwuh Wuuuuuh... Mario has a tiny banana.” - MatPat ‘17 (No wonder Peach is being stolen by Bowser. It’s to protect her from ‘LITTLE’ Mario...)

When you realize this is where Style Theory originated with that "because FASHION is a science!' line it probably isn't, but it's fun to think of it that way

10:11 I always thought K Rool was a crocodile.

8:38 "How did they get so big?" Oh I know! Viag- "The banana hoard" Oh.

Banana=Viagra D O N G E X P A N D E D

I love how this turned into a donkey kong theory

Cant believe this is already 3 years ago seems like last year

Me: **eats actual banana and drinks milk in hopes of growing taller**

This is a great theory, and I'm not trying to be rude, but you've forgotten about one crucial thing. The fact that this is a different world. It's been proven that the force of gravity compresses the spine, and that if we were to eventually move to different planets with less gravity, humans would actually grow taller, because there wouldn't be as much gravity compression on the spine. So, it's very plausible that this planet could just have less gravity than the mushroom kingdom, and that's why the humans are so tall. I've also come up with a way to possibly prove this, but it's a little sketchy. When Mario long jumps off of the skyscraper in the trailer, that's really the only time he is falling, thus allowing you to use pixel measurements to see if he falls slower compared to games based in the mushroom kingdom. I guess the same thing could also be applied when he is in the jump-rope scene, but falling was the first thing I thought of.

3:16 the ultimate master of FORESHADOWING!

3:15 he was hinting at it all along!

"Mario has a tiny banana." -MatPat2017

Matpat: "Donkey kongs special bannanas" Me: "Very creative name"

"because fashion is a science" Years later: Me: WAIT STYLE THEORY WAS FORETOLD IN A VIDEO!?

"Mario's got a tiny banana"

'Who doesn't want a massive banana after all?' Well done, MatPat, well done. Totally family-friendly.

"Don't get me wrong who doesn't want a big banana"-MatPat 2017

"'cause fashion is a science!"... 5 Years later: there now is Style Theory...

"fashion is a science" - 5 years later Style theory was born.

Its a matpack

MatPat: Don't get me wrong, but who doesn't like a *big* banana? Me: I understand you completely.

He said that “fashion is a science” when he talked about his merch, did he hint about style theory 5 years before it got made?

3:16 foreshadowing the future events...

Video starts at 3:26

MatPat studies video games WAAAAY too much. I love it.

“Fasion is a science.” Bro was foreshadowing Style Theory.

During the New Donk City festival, Mario goes against what I would assume is the og Donkey Kong. You can also talk to Pauline and she talks about how she was kidnapped by an ape, saying "I knew you'd remember!" Does this mean that the Mario in Mario Odyssey is the Mario from the original Dk game?

I honestly thought this theory was kind of a stretch until a few days ago, when I was playing BoTW. There’s a mission in which you have to go to the Yiga Clan’s, a group of dangerous thieves, hideout. When you enter the hideout, you find a Gerudo prisioner who says that their only weakness is that they have an obsession with bananas, or something along those lines. These experienced warriors just suddenly leave their posts whenever they see one, and then they keep it to themselves, which fits perfectly with this theory, since they probably use them to become stronger. Then later, in the hideout, there’s a huge secret stash of bananas, in the same place where they kept a treasure chest. And what really blew my mind is that the bananas are called “mighty bananas” and when cooked into a meal, they power-up your attack. They basically make you stronger and more powerful. So maybe this banana theory applies for other Nintendo games, not just Mario.

The people seem pretty normal sized to me i think our friend mario is a little on short side

Please do an episode on Faith! I LOVE the gameplay, and there's more lore than previously conceivable! It's a LOT of lore

*Mattpat: makes this video* *Me: Mario's just short...*

I'm really short so I'm just gonna go buy a few hundred bananas.

Fashion Theory confirmed????

Oh I thought it was going to have something to do with gravity (granted I’ve never played the game, and don’t know a whole lot about science) but if there were less gravity pushing down on people’s bones and stuff, wouldn’t it make sense they’d be a bit taller? And it would explain why Mario can jump so high in the game

I just realized he foreshadowed style theory at 3:17

"Marios got a tiny bannana" Of course he does otherwise princess peach wouldn't let bowser kidnap her all the time.

MatPat: Bananas can supersize humans Me At Walmart: YES ILL HAVE 89 BANANAS PLEASE

To boot MatPat's big banana theory, some of the bosses have to eat them to turn evil as well as being hypnotized by the main villains in DK Country Returns.

The fact that this video came out before Odyssey and yet somehow still holds up even after Mario's lore has been more figured out is honestly impressive. In Mario Party 9, we see bananas used to form power stars, and Tiki Tong's death animation is spews a similar liquid to the one seen in New Donk's power plant. Cappy says Power Stars are Power Moons with different shapes. So this means that New Donkers are eating raw star power. This lines up with the Wiggler from Super Mario 64 and Bowser in Galaxy 2, who also use star power to increase their size.

"Donkey Kong's enormous bananas" All aboard the nope train!

D O N K E Y K O N G ' S E N O R M O U S B A N A N A S

4:56 I Speak Spanish So This Was INCREDIBLY CRINGY

Mat pat: FASHIONABLE! Editors:*lady wrapped in a green screen*

Sooooo.... Does this mean size matters? Uhh... I'm asking for a friend... yeah... a friend....

Just leave it to matpat to overthink things for our entertainment😂

“Donkey Kong’s enormous banana” has to be in soooooo many “MatPat out of context” videos 😂

At 5:11 instead of Peach's castle I heard him Peach's a**hole🤣🤣🤣🤣

i feel like mat pat just creates lore that game devs can steal and announce as connon

"Who doesn't like a huge banana[?]" I'm just going to quote Yahtzee Croshaw here. "As the bored housewive said to the randy stallion, it's possible to put too much in."

Honestly best channel they give every and I mean EVERY detail

3:16 this is a literal hint to style theory

Super Mario Iliad and it's sequal Odyssey? "It's a me, Nobody"

I guess Wario has been eating some of these bananas. how else is he 10 feet tall?

me in 2023 laughing that MatPat thought that the Tosterena ruins were going to be a Aztec pyramid

3:16 He knew! He gave us a hint for the new channel yearssssssss ago 🫢🫢🫢

Theory starts at 3:28

What if Mario is that size because he's actually Ness?

The only channel that I watch the merch segment for

Has anyone ever stopped to think about the facts that Mario might not be human?