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Game Theory Was ALMOST Right - I Solved Ruin. Really, Though. 

Vaguely Rowlet
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I think most people aren't picking up on the environmental storytelling of RUIN and what it implies about the larger plot of FNAF enough. Security Breach and Ruin are big and include a lot of details about lore so it can be easy to miss stuff. But I decided to collect a lot of these very important but easy-to-miss details and stuff them into a theory that I think answers a lot of the questions most people seem to have about the games, the books, and their connection.
Also, sorry about the mic quality. I always write captions for my videos so you can turn them on if needed. (Disclaimer: Sometimes RU-vid takes a while to process them)
Also, also, I forgot to mention how the Chica shrine in Security Breach next to the Post-It Note Room has:
1. Stickies in binary asking, "Why is I?"
2. The same shoe next to the Puppet plushie in the DJ Music Man Boss Fight.
We know that Chica was probably meant to play a bigger role in RUIN, what with all the marketing around her and her Chowda, she was the only animatronic featured on the poster, Cassie's OG Design seemed to have her pink color palette, and she is the only animatronic that can be repaired. With that in mind, the Chica shrine takes on a whole new context. Seems to me that that was supposed to be Cassie's.
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@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
I forgot to mention how the Chica shrine in Security Breach next to the Post-It Note Room has: 1. Stickies in binary asking, "Why is I?", just like the post-it note room. 2. The same shoe next to the Puppet plushie in the DJ Music Man Boss Fight. We know that Chica was probably meant to play a bigger role in RUIN, what with all the marketing around her and her Chowda, she was the only animatronic featured on the poster, Cassie's OG Design seemed to have her pink color palette, and she is the only animatronic that can be repaired. With that in mind, the Chica shrine takes on a whole new context. Seems to me that that was supposed to be Cassie's.
@-S.F.K.
@-S.F.K. Год назад
who hearts their own comment?
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
@@-S.F.K. I just wanted to pin it so it would be seen :(
@-S.F.K.
@-S.F.K. Год назад
@@VaguelyRowlet well, you don’t have to heart to pin it, but I see what you are saying. I apologize if I came of strong there, I just find it genuinely odd for a creator to heart their own comment as that tool is mainly to show fans that you have seen what they wrote and liked it.
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
@@-S.F.K. yeah i may or may not have just realized that Hearting and Pinning are not the same thing LOL whoops
@SC-ec8xe
@SC-ec8xe Год назад
...who cares?@@-S.F.K.
@Nightfoxx444
@Nightfoxx444 Год назад
While i still think Gregory is an human because in the character encyclopedia it says he's an human, i belive that it may be possibke that Cassie is a robot. Mainly because of the book parallels
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
that's fair. I knew the encyclopedia said he's a human but I'm still on the fence about if it can be trusted or not. Like is it possible it only said that so as to not spoil things for future games?
@Nightfoxx444
@Nightfoxx444 Год назад
@@VaguelyRowlet maybe. Because Burntrap in one of the official medias that i don't remember is reffered to Afton when in the end we discovered it was the mimic.
@Sapphire864
@Sapphire864 Год назад
I don’t believe the encyclopedia and there’s reason to not find that species part reliable (also, spoiler? It’d be so dumb. It’d have been funny if it had said “we don’t even know anymore.’
@kasiy2712
@kasiy2712 11 месяцев назад
@@VaguelyRowleti feel like itd be really dumb just for gregory to be revealed as a bot once again already
@johnnyghost1243
@johnnyghost1243 Год назад
Personally, I feel that while Cassie and Gregory are human. I believe there is still some form of possession going on in the story. And it's not Charlie that would be possessing Cassie, but rather, Elizabeth. My idea is that the reason Cassie isn't a fan of Baby is because Baby is the one that ended up killing Elizabeth in the first place. The Plush Babies surrounding you in Ruin I believe is Baby's AI reminding Elizabeth of who she used to be. As for why she's not acting like how she did when possessing Scrap Baby in Pizzeria Sim is because at that time, she ended up becoming mentally broken, feeling like she made a mistake in disobeying her dad, and that the only thing that would make him proud is if she started killing people like he did. However after the events of Pizzeria Sim, she started to recover mentally, ended up possessing Cassie at some point, gained a new love for the Glamrocks, and ended up meeting Gregory at her birthday party when no other kid showed up. What my theory proposes is that rather than it being AI Charlie vs AI Elizabeth, it's AI Charlie vs AI Baby.
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
I’m definitely leaning towards the evil AI in the pizzaplex being Baby and not Elizabeth. Also I’ve been thinking about the idea of souls possessing or influencing real, alive people instead of bots because there are just so many candidates that feel connected to old characters (Gregory, Vanessa, Cassie, etc.) and if I said every single one of them were bots…that would not go over well online LOL. But my issue is, I don’t think we’ve explicitly seen a soul influence or possess a living person in the games or books yet…which makes me think it’s not something that can happen in the FNaF universe.
@johnnyghost1243
@johnnyghost1243 Год назад
@@VaguelyRowlet You could be right. However, if Glitchtrap/Mimic can control Vanessa and Jeremy's minds, human possession doesn't seem too far off. You could also sort of argue that Michael possessed his own corpse. In sections where they do the walk cycle, when you see him raise back up, he has black eyes with a white dot on each eye. That is a staple of the possessed animatronics in FNAF 1 and 2, which could then apply to humans. You could argue that William's sprite in the minigames depicted him in an almost similar way. However, that is black eyes with a white rectangle, and when you first see Michael in the Sister Location walk cycle start out with blue eyes.
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
@@johnnyghost1243makes me wonder if souls can possess technology like the AR world or Help Wanted and then possess people from there..
@johnnyghost1243
@johnnyghost1243 Год назад
@@VaguelyRowlet Ghosts are known to attach themselves to things including tech. That's why some ghost hunters might mention about not bringing their gear into their own house, due to fear of there being some spirit attached to them. So by that logic, it could be possible for a spirit to attach itself to something like Help Wanted. Just perhaps to something related to the game physically, and not digitally.
@justice8718
@justice8718 Год назад
The puppet is utterly dangerous because her and Springtrap don’t actually share a victim-killer relationship. The fnaf3 tapes, fnaf2’s phone calls about the golden suit, fun with plushtrap heavily hint towards Springtrao being possessed long before William’s and Phone Guy’s deaths. As in, he murdered anyone that worn him (including William) and progressively became so openly violent that they had to lock him away. Who Springtrap really is and how he died is revealed in fnaf6’s Midnight Motorist. With the game files implied, Midnight Motorist took place AFTER Charlie’s death, William broke into the killer’s household but he had no vehicle with him by his rabbit hole (where William is hiding), meaning that the Killer’s SON was the actual victim of the incident. So he had to be very very important for Charlie to be resurrected, and it’s implied that she is so close to him (Springtrap, the fake “William Afton”) in Fazbear Frights books, only she can put his soul at peace. What makes the most sense is this, he is Sammy Emily, and he wanted to be at Freddy’s to see his twin sister. The abuse and murdered he went through corrupted his very being and character to be like the darkness of his father, Henry Emily, And if he’s dead, Charlie will be there to bring him back to life. Unlike William when he dies in the Charlie Trilogy. He is the “one you shouldn’t have killed” in UCN.
@scribblpad
@scribblpad 8 месяцев назад
Ima need you to elaborate, cause from where I'm standing this is absolutely Wild
@justice8718
@justice8718 8 месяцев назад
@@scribblpad how else is Springtrap alive in fnaf2 and fnaf3 pre-William’s death? Fun with Plushtrap implies that William Afton had to shut off the animatronic in fnaf2 (when it was trying to kill him from the hallway).
@melissagarcia1705
@melissagarcia1705 Год назад
That was a very interesting theory ! That reminds me just how confusing FNaF lore can be. I may have to rewatch it several times. Though I'd like to share some criticism with you. I disagree with the theory of Cassie and Gregory being bots, or being related to characters from previous games such as the Afton family. However I do think that they are indeed supposed to be symbolic representations of said characters, in the sense that the events of their respective stories follow similar patterns. Gregory have similarities with the Crying child, and Vanny with Elizabeth. But in my opinion, the story would be a bit weak if they were the exact same characters, or possessed robots. Though my guess is not that far from your own. I believe that the Mimic, mimicking William Afton, is trying to recreate from scratch the Afton family ; and to do that, he has selected some innocent people he could infect with the Mimic1 program using Glitchtrap (Vanessa) or AR (Gregory). Vanny and GGY are meant to be the Mimic's (or Afton's) apprentices, his followers... and by extension, his unwilling "children". Though it should be noted that Vanny is not Vanessa, and GGY is not Gregory ; they are alternate personalities, created by the Mimic1 program, and possibly still existing to this day somewhere. Chances are they also have seperate memories, like you said. Moreover, if we take into consideration that the Mimic was initially a toy for Edwin's late boy, which was then destroyed by Edwin himself, it makes his desire to have a family of his own all the more tragic. All of this doesn't mean that Charlie and Elizabeth are absent. On the contrary, I strongly believe that these two conflicting spirits both possess the entire pizzaplex, and I very much like the idea of a whole place being possessed instead of animatronics like the previous games. I dare even say that they are actually everywhere, even whithin the Glamrock animatronics on a symbolic level (meaning it's not actual possession). If you look carefully, you can see that all the animatronics have green (Charlie) and purple (Elizabeth) on themselves. In Ruin, even the present inside Freddy's chest has changed colors to match Charlie's and Elizabeth's signature green and purple. It means that all of the Glamrocks have the potential for both protection (green) and destruction (purple), depending on which force influences them the most. If they are indeed run by the Mimic1 program, and it is very likely, chances are they behave in accordance to the way they are treated. That's where Cassie's role comes into play. Cassie herself is inhabited by two symbolic identities ; she is both a savior and a princess. After all, the princess's name in Princess Quest is Cassidy. I believe that she will indeed assume Charlie's role as a protector and repair the animatronics, so that, being shown compassion, they eventually become their normal selves again. She may even end up saying the iconic line : "I will put you back together", only this time it would be about putting animatronics back together instead of humans ; it would be a perfect loop. But Cassie, as a princess, also needs to be saved from the Mimic. Perhaps this time the Puppet (meaning the actual Charlie) will succeed in saving the child ? Or maybe the Tangle ? I conclusion, I think FNaF main theme is now about duality. Two opposite forces being at war, yet longing to be united. Which is why I think the Daycare Attendant will have a special role in the future. His very character embodies the endless fight between good and evil, protection and destruction. But Sun didn't want Moon destroyed, he wanted to be whole. And with Cassie's help, he is now Eclipse : a perfect balance of the two forces in one body. I think Eclipse is either a way to foreshadow the end of the story, or will help find a similar solution. I can't wait for Help Wanted 2 !
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
Very interesting perspective. I definitely hope that Cassie and Gregory aren't bots or possessed or anything, and that they are just regular kids meant to parallel old stories. It's just that, if I stick with that theory, I'm left with a lot of questions about stuff like the Post-It Note Room, and the implications of the 3-star ending of Security Breach (that the three Afton kids have reunited). Also, if GGY and Vanny are Glitchtrap's attempts to recreate Afton's family, that leaves me wondering how Cassie might fit into that picture. With all the weird stuff around her that I bring up in the video like her distaste for Baby and the fact that she's played Help Wanted, it would imply, like I stated, that she was also involved with the Afton family or in this case, the Mimic's NEW Afton family beforehand. But if a robot Charlie was never built and then inducted into the Afton family in the games, why would the Mimic be trying to put Cassie in the new Afton family at all? Since it's not like she would be replacing Charlie in the old Afton family if she was never in that family in the first place. I hope I worded that well, it's so hard to write text when talking about FNAF Lore. I had to redo and tweak the script for this video like eight times LOL. It was supposed to be out much earlier.
@melissagarcia1705
@melissagarcia1705 Год назад
@@VaguelyRowlet Yeah, definitely confusing LOL X) What I think about the Post-it Note Room is that the Mimic may have tried to use staff bots either to comfort himself, or to teach GGY how this family should be. Then just how ID Fantasy theorized, Charlie may have attempted to communicate with him to remind Gregory who he really is. Though I can't explain why Gregory is so aggressive towards the animatronics ; maybe he just sees them as en extension of the Mimic at this point ? If anything, Glamrock Freddy himself has more similarities with the Crying Child than Gregory... He does end up as a desembodied head. Freddy also has a sort of existential crisis just before descending into the sinkhole back in SB ; it almost seems like he suddenly remembers going down there with Vanny in the past. Moreover, the "Prototype" inscription under his foot implies that our Freddy is not the real Glamrock Freddy, which could explain why he said "I am not me". Maybe his endo was supposed to serve another purpose entirely, but he ended up being a prototype for Glamrock Freddy. My guess would be that Freddy is possibly involved in the Post-it Note Room mystery. As for Cassie, I'd like to point out that behind her FazWrench, there is a code that is exactly the same as the one that appears in a Purple Guy-related past minigame in a previous game. So it is definitely possible that she is related to someone at least Afton-like ; but it could also mean that the Pizzaplex is run by the SB era's version of William Afton. If so, my guess is that she will assume Michael's role in the sense that she will try to fix her father's mistakes (possibly by repairing the animatronics), or Charlie's role by becoming a protector and a guide. If she represents Charlie, there would be no reason for her to join the recreation of the Afton family. She would rather be Afton's (or the Mimic's) victim (or attempted victim). After all, the Mimic did try to kill her. She may also be used as a tool for the Mimic to escape or become a better version of itself ; the Mimic may end up infecting her like he did Vanessa, or coerce her into making a new costume he could wear. Moreover, if she is somehow influenced by Charlie's spirit, that could explain her dislike of Baby. Or what if the Mimic's creator (Edwin) is also Cassie's dad ? That would reinforce the idea of her being a representation of Charlie (since Edwin parallels Henry), and the Mimic would be like an evil sibling/rival to her. Also it would be quite reminiscent of the Charliebot and Circus Baby, an older yet twisted and destructive version of what she is.
@madmiracles5617
@madmiracles5617 Год назад
This deserves more likes! :D
@justice8718
@justice8718 Год назад
And the Mimic tells the two spirits. “I’m the boss.”
@eljaminlatour6633
@eljaminlatour6633 Год назад
One hole in the theory is that the Mimic wasn't made by Henry, but Edwin Murray. People kept saying that they're both parallels, but that's not true. Henry Emily is the founder of Fazbear Entertainment(or at least was after he sold the company to unknown buyers). Edwin Murray is an engineer at Fazbear Entertainment. Henry built the Charlie robot to replace his dead daughter, Charlotte Emily. Murray built the Mimic to keep company with his son while he's gone, etc.
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
Yeah, I’m still on the fence about if Edwin is his own person or not but the more I think about it the closer I get to believing Tales is fully canon to the games…mostly waiting for Scott or Steel Wool to say something about the Tales Continuity. Although, if Edwin or Mr. Burrows or something shows up in other media besides Tales like the movie or something, I’ll definitely be on board with believing they’re canon to the games
@kasiy2712
@kasiy2712 11 месяцев назад
@@VaguelyRowlettales is most definitely canon and edwin is his own person but also the movie wont be canon just like silver eyes isnt canon to the games, theyre just reimagined stories
@JosiesCloset
@JosiesCloset Год назад
Honestly i believe the idea of her “father” being Michael or henry being her father/creating her instead of….bonnie Bro lmao
@GlamClan-xe3zi
@GlamClan-xe3zi Год назад
when would micheal have the time to be a daddy tho… and who the hell is doing that 😭
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
@@GlamClan-xe3zi My theory goes along with the idea of him being more of a caretaker or adopted father rather to Cassie rather than a biological father. Tbh I think the FNaF movie is going to shed some light on this topic.
@MichealAfton1983
@MichealAfton1983 Год назад
⁠@@GlamClan-xe3ziI mean, assuming he was taking care of her after FFPS he wouldn’t really have anything to do since William burned in that fire and maybe died (depending if he came back glitchtrap/Burntrap or something else) and the souls were free (once again, maybe free)
@kasiy2712
@kasiy2712 11 месяцев назад
@@MichealAfton1983mike died in ffps. as well as william but the souls are free but the vengeful spirit stayed as well as the one you shouldnt have killed just remade the others to torment willy
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet 11 месяцев назад
@@kasiy2712there’s been a theory going around that he’s alive. It has some stuff going for it ngl
@Hapsetshut
@Hapsetshut Год назад
This actually makes an amazing amount of sense
@hocus1
@hocus1 Год назад
I think that this video needs to more popular, it deserves it
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
Aw, thank you!
@hocus1
@hocus1 Год назад
@@VaguelyRowlet 👍
@redisokay
@redisokay 3 месяца назад
Yknow, i actually hate the fact the crying child got basically ripped out of all his main roles and swapped with others - like marionette - hell, he WAS the marionette but that was retconned for charlie. oof, poor bb.
@adammartinez8061
@adammartinez8061 10 месяцев назад
About The Picture In The Middle on the Thumbnail, i think I remember a FNAF Theorist stating that Steel wool claimed that it’s important and the Theorist theorized that it means that the animatronics or endo’s take kids when they are asleep.
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet 10 месяцев назад
I didn't know Steel Wool said it's important, hope I'm on the right track... That theory is interesting but it doesn't answer the questions of why the kid resembles Charlie or why she's in the FNaF 4 Bedroom
@adammartinez8061
@adammartinez8061 8 месяцев назад
I think it storytells how The Endo’s take children to endure being test subjects of the Nightmare Experiments.
@gemmio69
@gemmio69 Год назад
I don't think Cassie and Charlie are related in the slightest, With Gregory he at least shares some design traits with cc, but with Cassie, They look nothing alike.
@nosemilkbaddie
@nosemilkbaddie Год назад
look at 1:38
@gemmio69
@gemmio69 Год назад
the only thing about them that look slightly similar is the hair but even then Cassie has 2 buns rather than twin tails@@nosemilkbaddie
@Psycotic_Molerat
@Psycotic_Molerat 10 месяцев назад
⁠@@gemmio69It could still very well be similar, in the poster she is depicted with tails, I don’t know if the technical shape matters, it’s still tied at the bottom
@beegrinder3056
@beegrinder3056 10 месяцев назад
I feel like cassie having afro puffs matters because it kind of signifies that she's literally a different race from Charlotte
@lydiaperson7251
@lydiaperson7251 Год назад
awww wait!!! the thought of Gregory being the crying child is heartwarming and so sad when you think of him comforting cassie!!! 😭 because he was crying on his birthday, he ended dying because of this. he sees cassie crying on her birthday, he goes and comforts her and gets her to stop crying. in doing so creating friends. that neither of them where able to have before in their real lives because of their fathers
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
That’s actually a very interesting through line…nice catch!
@adammartinez8061
@adammartinez8061 8 месяцев назад
Considering that the name “Cassie” seems short for the name “Cassidy” i think RUIN is meant to Parallel PQ1 and The Princess freeing Glichtrap at the end. The Princess=Cassidy. The Little Bunny Monsters=MXES. The ending of PQ1=Freeing GlitchTrap/Mimic.
@Matrix77776
@Matrix77776 11 месяцев назад
The Bonnie bro theory is kinda dumb bc like if he was alive he’d be like 80 years old by the time of ruin and like 60 when he would have cassie
@medhathefni9485
@medhathefni9485 Год назад
Whoever that girl is in the Afton styled bed it's definitely not Cassie or Charlie
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
The nightmarrione plushie behind that door seems pretty cut and dry to me
@medhathefni9485
@medhathefni9485 Год назад
@@VaguelyRowletCharlie doesn't have a red shirt it's more likely to be Cassidy a would make more sense for her to be in that styled bed
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
@@medhathefni9485 well, I mean, while Charlie in the games doesn’t have a red shirt, Cassie does, and I don’t recall Cassidy having a red shirt either. I’m also curious as to why you believe it would make more sense for Cassidy to be in an Afton bed than Charlie
@adammartinez8061
@adammartinez8061 10 месяцев назад
Also With The Storyteller tree secretly appearing in PQ3, I’d like to think the Arcade Cabinets and the storyteller is part of how Glitchtrap has over Vanessa and The Bots.
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet 10 месяцев назад
Very possible.
@mushr00mQ
@mushr00mQ 11 месяцев назад
"No one likes carrot cake unless theyre a daughter of bunny-themed serial killer" you would be dismembered in brazil
@mandalynn1384
@mandalynn1384 Год назад
Gregory=Rory=CC. Look at 32 bit model of CC, Character Encyclopedia CC, and Greg model in SB. The shirt, the bandaid, the hair But I think Cassie is Cassidy. Who possessed Golden Freddie with CC. Thus their bond
@I-Fail-A-Lotl
@I-Fail-A-Lotl Год назад
2:02 ayoooo
@joseystrife8780
@joseystrife8780 10 месяцев назад
Your forgetting that Charlie has a purple plush rabbit which we see in in the Silver Eyes graphic novel and again in the Freddy Files Updated Edition
@lydiaperson7251
@lydiaperson7251 Год назад
(still watching the video) who’s to say the stick note room is just for one child/robot? it could be a room they put the a mini verizon of minics or just robots to learn to be ‘human’
@lydiaperson7251
@lydiaperson7251 Год назад
(half way through your explanation) i see it but maybe it’s called ‘charlie’s room’ because she was was the last person to be in there? imma just continue watching sorry
@lydiaperson7251
@lydiaperson7251 Год назад
okay finished the video! i like the theory! even though i don’t understand bits of it, it’s just getting very confusing but hopefully i’ll understand completely soon. micheal being cassies dad is interesting, haven’t heard that one before! maybe with having to have micheal not be around for ruin to make sense that could connect to the theory of freddy here being micheal? oh but i don’t know hope you’re having a lovely day!
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
@@lydiaperson7251 hope you’re having a lovely day too! But yeah, it IS possible multiple bots were in that room, but I guess I don’t see why there would be multiple bots? Because I was able to connect the details from the room to just Charlie, + the Charlie door and the Nightmarrione staffbot heads, I’m pretty confident that she was the only one there, but it’s still possible that you’re right
@lydiaperson7251
@lydiaperson7251 Год назад
@@VaguelyRowlet i am thank you! it would complicate things to have the sticky note room be the learning room for multiple bots. i’m surprised it took a while for people to think about the nightmare verisons of the marionette in a bunch of different places. do love your video! hope you continue doing what you’re doing, enjoying yourself! :D
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
I made a poll so if you want to decide what my next video is going to be, check my community tab!
@palokyu9891
@palokyu9891 8 месяцев назад
I like carrot cake… Uh oh, I need to go find my dad 😬
@MxMe-su1ch
@MxMe-su1ch Год назад
I am not certain the Cassie is Charlie, but I think you are very close. I think she is a younger Charlie robot, and I think there are several clues to this people seem to be ignoring. Charlie seems significantly taller than Cassie though. I also agree that Gregory is a robot, but I am not certain. There's a couple other potential options that would be possible, mainly because of the similarities between Gregory and Vanny. Of course, she could be a robot too, but I feel the fandom *hates* robot people. I do not think William made The Mimic though. I think The Mimic is much younger than that. Edwin is Edwin, not anybody else. Why else is The Mimic built at his home? William and Henry would have had all kinds of better places to build it. And endoskeletons have to be plentiful enough at the time for parts to go disappearing unnoticed. The Mimic is a hodge podge built endo, and the other two could use a brand new model. Edwin also has to create advanced custom firmware in the form of Mimic1. We have no evidence anyone else ever built such a thing. I think Help Wanted 2 will be a prequel where we play as Edwin, grabbing parts to build The Mimic from, among other places, Circus Baby's Pizza World.
@katarzynamedynska1682
@katarzynamedynska1682 Год назад
Ngl I've always thought that all of things in the fnaf is some sort of reflection of things that happened to both William and Henry's families.. I also think that William and Henry are more similar to each other than it seems.. Idk why everyone thinks that Henry is/was a good man when for me he doesn't seem like it... Many say that books aren't canon to lore.. but they have to mean something, right? Otherwise, why Scott would make them in the first place? And for me it seems that Henry presented in books doesn't seem as a good father anymore... Maybe I'm wrong.. I decided to say those things under your video cause it seems like you try to take everything that was made by Scott for fnaf into consideration which is good in my opinion! I know that you may not respond to my comment but I'm glad that you care for all the details which I really appreciate! 👏 (And sorry for bad English cause it isn't my native language 😅)
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
I totally agree with you. I think Henry, despite having good intentions, was probably a bad father. Not only do we see that in the books, but in the games too. In Pizzerria Sim, he builds Lefty to trap Charlie. And we can see in its blueprints that it actively shocks her with electricity to keep her docile. Then he tries to burn her alive (we don't know if he succeeded but he did try). Obviously all of that was done out of grief and because he wants to set her soul free, but still. And in the original graphic novels, I think Henry and William look very similar to highlight the fact that they are alike in some ways. They later changed his design for the character encyclopedia. And don't worry, english is not my native language either :)
@katarzynamedynska1682
@katarzynamedynska1682 Год назад
@@VaguelyRowlet oh, thanks for more insight on this because I'm new to this fandom but I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thinks that Henry wasn't a good father.
@darkpain2452
@darkpain2452 Год назад
oh my god, this really glue very everything, but there one thing missing, its even more possible edwin being William than henry, because at the end of the last story "alone together", is about a young kid best friend being his own corpse this feels weird, serious i think I see this somewhere Gregory and Helpi................ Gregory and Glamrock Freddy.............. gregory and helpi and glamrock freddy are the same kid? this totally explains a lot "My friends they are here, they are anger and confused, but now i can protect you, I AM NOT ME" Sun and Moon are the same being, alone together explain this, sunman comes from the drawing of this kid, this reference funtime freddy, They are all connected the crying child is broken many different pieces but this connected to roguemimic teeth being the same as Sun and Moon my theory is there fight between the Afton vs Emily Purple Represent Afton Green Represent Emily Elizabeth is not the opposite of Charlie, but is the vengeful spirit Charlie wants everyone to rest Vengeful Spirit want to burn together william forever, he holds everyone together(the reason why Blob attack William and Gregory ) There two kid with the same soul walking around There Sun, is a happy kid wants to protect everyone,harmless, but an asshole or insane there Moon, is a insane kid want to having fun,deadly, ragefull(look cassie says in descriptions, moon is just pranking, she have a lot fun with it?) (Charlie and Vengeful Spirit having fun,UCN) There ellipse, sane and truly caring kid,harmless, protected mimic only copy Gregory, even after we found out, he still copy gregory I AM GREGORY I AM GREGORY I AM AM AM AM GREGORY Mimic yellow Eyes Helpi with Blue and orange/red Eyes Fnaf Movie Golden Freddy has Blue eyes the plush obsession everything makes sense Nightmarionne is a mimic of Charlie Nightmare is a mimic of Gregory both are fighting for control in the pizzaplex the ending of security breach vanessa ending, is all about playing arcades to free everyone, ELLIPSE IS THE PERFECT ENDING, CRYING CHILD IS FIX ............................. HOLY FUCK, cassie did fix Sun and Moon.......................... Cassie did fix the system of the pizzaplex
@strawberryjess
@strawberryjess Год назад
At 7:54 I feel her dad is dead and disagree with this as she acknowledges him but in past tense so that could be why this could be because of the staff killing we saw or if this is true Henry and Acton are both meant to be dead
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
I do mention an additional idea to the theory about who Cassie’s current/previous caretaker was at 17:28
@stephanievazquez1525
@stephanievazquez1525 4 месяца назад
Cassie’s father Jeremy the Bonnie bro from fnaf
@Sapphire864
@Sapphire864 Год назад
Imma watch this later im busy rn
@user-rv1vo1rp7l
@user-rv1vo1rp7l Год назад
Game theory made a video saying her father was the bunnie man from the bit of 87. Witch does make lots of sense
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
It is a very interesting theory but stuff does still bother me about it. I think a lot of the connections I point out in my video between Cassie and stuff like the Post-It Note Room, the Chica Shrine, the Novels, the Endo Poster, etc. are things I would need to actively pretend don't exist in order to believe his theory fully. Still a possibility though.
@user-rv1vo1rp7l
@user-rv1vo1rp7l Год назад
I meant bite of 83. But something I wanted to say is that she speaks to her dad in past tense not present tence
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
I know she doesn't really talk about her dad in the present tense directly, but i think the way she skirts around a hard confirmation is interesting to me. she doesn't say, "It's a faz wrench. It looks just like the one my dad HAD." She says, "--it looks just like my Dad's." It's weird and vague
@DJFNaFMan
@DJFNaFMan Год назад
Bros voice box is set to low
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
😭😭
@justice8718
@justice8718 Год назад
Also, “Dave” (William Afton) is literally at the Pizza Plex in the “Hello Dave” message. It’s very clear he is alive and present.
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
Interesting...
@Normania-is-here
@Normania-is-here 10 месяцев назад
1:35 uhm- Elizabeth’s hair is very much not yellow???It’s ginger..
@Normania-is-here
@Normania-is-here 10 месяцев назад
Other then that though this video is amazing!!
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet 10 месяцев назад
It is definitely a warmer shade than Vanessa's but ultimately I think they meant to model Vanessa to resemble Elizabeth since they also have direct connections in their stories, with their abusive father and absent mother figure, y'know? but yes it's a fair point that their hair colors don't match up exactly.
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet 10 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@Normania-is-here
@Normania-is-here 10 месяцев назад
@@VaguelyRowlet I suppose. I still find it weird why Vanessa has blond hair while Elizabeth definitely has ginger hair. Maybe to show that they’re similar but still different?
@bleachraid9737
@bleachraid9737 Год назад
I know this is just a theory but Why does the afton family have to be every single human character? Other people exist too
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
I would be very happy if Gregory, Vanessa, Cassie, and Cassie’s dad were all new characters but all the evidence I listed in my video made me think they are (unfortunately) not completely new characters.
@bleachraid9737
@bleachraid9737 Год назад
@@VaguelyRowlet cassie (from what I can see) is maybe a mixed race. I mean they can have other family members but it doesn’t seem likely that cassie is a part of it and they can’t adopt if they are gone. 🤔 Idk. I’ll just wait and see. I can’t wait to see how this plays out 😁
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
@@bleachraid9737 Well I mean I did say Cassie is meant to be a rebuilt Charlie and Afton stole her, not that Cassie is actually an Afton biologically or anything…
@dwfan91-
@dwfan91- 11 месяцев назад
good video
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet 11 месяцев назад
Woah thanks for watching!
@dwfan91-
@dwfan91- 11 месяцев назад
@@VaguelyRowlet real support real🫡
@mostlyreformednecromancer
@mostlyreformednecromancer Год назад
I like carrot cake and I'm don't think I qualify as a serial killer.
@olivedavid3221
@olivedavid3221 11 месяцев назад
2:03 *spits out drink* they’re gay!!??
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet 11 месяцев назад
maybe there was never a mrs. Afton in the first place
@TarPick-dh3dv
@TarPick-dh3dv Год назад
Or Gregory and Cassie are just some random kids
@dylanhudec979
@dylanhudec979 Год назад
William never dies 😈
@xeldalachyrule
@xeldalachyrule Год назад
I’ve said this once and I’ll say it again. Elizabeth Afton isn’t and was never a blonde, she’s very clearly illustrated as a red-head in both of her physical appearances. I don’t understand how people still think she’s a blonde.
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
It is more of a warm strawberry blonde than the shade of yellow that Vanessa has, I’ll give you that. And while the encyclopedia art definitely looks ginger-ish, her in game sprite looks pretty explicitly blonde to me. The reason I used the encyclopedia art in my video is because I couldn’t find a high quality png of her sprite from sister location LOL
@xeldalachyrule
@xeldalachyrule Год назад
@@VaguelyRowlet Her in-game sprite looks explicitly ginger imo. I’d have to check to see if it’s closer to yellow or orange though. I definitely don’t think it’s blonde for the in-game sprite.
@DecoderWalrus
@DecoderWalrus 8 месяцев назад
Robot kids infecting every FNaF theorist's video smh
@Hetzfs
@Hetzfs 9 месяцев назад
I was going to hear this on My way to work, but man tour voice si way to ñow, maybe up a bit the volumen for.future?
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet 9 месяцев назад
I have improved my audio quality and volume for all the videos that came after this one :)
@Hetzfs
@Hetzfs 9 месяцев назад
@@VaguelyRowlet Nice
@JamesOngodd
@JamesOngodd Год назад
I already clicked off when you said cassie is charlotte. I want the community to just let new characters be new characters
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
trust me when I say I would much rather let new characters be new characters, but as I played Ruin, I just felt like there was too much evidence to say Cassie and Charlie are not related in some major way. I also go over the idea that Cassie is a completely new character at 17:52
@JamesOngodd
@JamesOngodd Год назад
@@VaguelyRowlet sorry i relized how rude my comment was i didnt mean to sound so heartless, its jusg sometimes i get annoyed.
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
@@JamesOngodd dont worry about it, i love how passionate the fnaf community is. Trust me, if the next game proves that Cassie and Gregory are completely new characters I would be ecstatic
@SC-ec8xe
@SC-ec8xe Год назад
Wow. So you're so fragile you can't even entertain other ideas you disagree with and you feel the need to tell us all about it for some bizarre reason. The entire point of comments is for people to discuss the video at hand. So why are you commenting on something you didn't even bother to watch- and why do you feel like anyone could possibly care about what you have to say as an excuse?
@user-pm9qz8fw1z
@user-pm9qz8fw1z Год назад
Not gonna lie I hate robot kids theory its kinda dumb to say about this theory its very uncomfortable both Cassie and Gregory are humans they aren't robots they are humans someone already debunked this theory that they aren't robots so I think they are humans I really hate this theory
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
i also do not like the idea that they're robots. it's just what made the most sense to me, with all the stuff i point out in the video. I would be really happy if the next game proved they were regular human kids with regular human parents and everything. i'm sorry you didn't like the theory :(
@user-pm9qz8fw1z
@user-pm9qz8fw1z Год назад
@@VaguelyRowlet I mean steel wool studios should make a game maybe to prove they are not robots but actual human kids tbh because I just hate the idea when people say oh "Gregory is a robot" or "Cassie is also a robot recreation" it kinda really turns me off someone really needs to debunk this theory just to prove it tbh
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
@@user-pm9qz8fw1z i do think you can dislike a theory but also see the merit in its evidence. like again, i do NOT want cassie or gregory to be robochildren but there's just a lot of evidence to suggest that they are, in both security breach and ruin, and i think the fact that no one has been able to fully debunk the gregbot or cassiebot theory is a testament to the fact that the evidence behind it is pretty compelling. unfortunately.
@user-pm9qz8fw1z
@user-pm9qz8fw1z Год назад
@@VaguelyRowlet kinda sad of how that theory works this way ngl
@kasiy2712
@kasiy2712 11 месяцев назад
@@VaguelyRowletcan you include a counterargument to your theories bit by bit?
@strikeiksp6629
@strikeiksp6629 Год назад
I hope this isn't where the series is going
@GhostKingLP
@GhostKingLP Год назад
Hi guys, i like carrot cake. 😊
@shashummga3477
@shashummga3477 Год назад
Can we *please* stop not only accusing every human character of being a robot-person, can we stop trying to drag Elizabeth and Charlotte into literally every single SB theory? Charlie and Liz haven't appeared in years outside of AR (that isn't a reference or easter egg), and there's no narrative reason for either of them to come back because their stories have already ended. What would bringing them back do for the story? Everything regarding William and the fallout of his murders came to a close in the Stichwraith stringers, and now the story is focusing more on the Mimic and Fazbear Corp's shadiness. The evidence you use to justify your theory are stretches, circumstantial, and aren't convincing, just shots in the dark that pretend to be something more meaningful And why are we both ignoring AND using the books for the theories? The Mimic HAS a backstory already; Edwin made the Mimic for the son, the son dies, the Mimic gets infused with agony, and was sealed away in the Pizza Plex. Edwin can't be a parallel to either Henry or William because he's alive when the Pizza Plex is open, which can't be said for Henry and William. Why pick-and choose. The books, whether you like it or not, are cannon to the games. And that's not to mention that WHY WOULD STEEL WOOL AND THE WRITING TEAM BEHIND FNAF KEEP BRINGING BACK THE IDEA OF ROBOT PEOPLE DESPITE IT BEING A REALLY UNPOPULAR IDEA? It just makes no sense, and I don't see why Theorists keep trying to pin every human character as a robot. Honestly, it just feels like people aren't willing to accept that the original story of FNAF is more or less over, so they keep trying to bring back old ideas that don't fit in with the new story.
@nosemilkbaddie
@nosemilkbaddie Год назад
scott has actually said that, at least the fazbear frights books, are supposed to fill in some gaps (i don't know if that's the exact wording) in the older games. the books are so very obviously supposed to be used, they just aren't one to one. but silver eyes and fazbear frights are confirmed in a different continuity, and tales from the pizzaplex has had nothing said about continuity. we don't know if they're in the game continuity, so you can't say that "they are whether we like it or not" just because you think so. and seriously, robot kids appear time and time again in the books. and then there is straight up robot kid heads in the sister location bunker. i don't think steel wool is reading every single comment about their games and i don't think they care if a portion of the fanbase does not like something that's probably been a plot point since they started making the games. i don't think robot people is as unpopular as you think. you also have to intentionally turn your head away from so many things to not see hints of charlie and elizabeth still being somehow present in current games. the nightmarionne plushies and wires and staff bots? the new room with baby and scrap baby plushies? the ending of ruin being a direct parallel to the twisted ones? with the circus costumes and crystal cave??? it's right there. you're literally acting like the things that you are saying are 100% confirmed fact but they're actually not. you can't be mad that people are pointing things out just because it doesn't go with the story YOU want. nobody know the story besides scott and steel wool, so i don't know why you're acting like you know it better than anybody else.
@VaguelyRowlet
@VaguelyRowlet Год назад
@@nosemilkbaddiethis comment made me curious as to what the majority of the FNAF community thought when it came to robot kids in the games so I made a poll. It’s only been out for the last day but even though the amount of people voting is increasing, the actual division is staying mostly the same. Seems like the majority actually do believe the theory even if they dislike it. So maybe the people that don’t believe it are just a loud minority? It’s interesting, so I’m gonna be watching the poll to see if it changes…
@nosemilkbaddie
@nosemilkbaddie Год назад
@@VaguelyRowlet I actually don't mind robot kids because it has been a thing since the fourth closet, and I especially like the theory that the charlie bot is a mimic and Afton stole it and made baby so she's like an evil Charlie with Elizabeths soul until they split in sister location. Even though it's a headache, it's really fun to think about the possibilities of everything tying back to the silver eyes trilogy and the chip you took from baby having huge lore implications. But I feel like it's a little silly to say that there DEFINITIVELY is not a single robot person when the new lore won't shut up about the idea.
@bestianegra3725
@bestianegra3725 Год назад
Me giggling at all the people that think they solved fnaf
@darklightss_
@darklightss_ Год назад
Ngl this theory kinda piss me off more than matpats 😂
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