GameInformer's Top 300 Games Of All Time SUCKS! 

Red Dead Redemption is technically "Red Dead 2." Everyone seems to forget Red Dead Revolver

Old people: "TOO MANY NEW GAMES." Young people: "TOO MANY OLD GAMES." Me: Is there an Ace Combat game...?

The most surprising thing about the list for me was that the magazine itself is still in print.

lol, pretty humorous that one of the complaints about Skyrim being in the top 10 is it not being old enough when Skyrim originally came out in 2011, but GTA5 was fine, a 2013 game. At least have some consistency guys.

I was pretty disappointed True Lies for SNES was not on this list

I can Honestly say I wasnt looking at this list through "nostalgia glasses" and just bitching about old games not getting deserved credit. A good game is a good no matter how old or new it is. I have actually played most of the games on this top 300 list. What really gets me is the ranks some of these games got and how there wasn't a criteria standard set. We weren't told why these games were on this list.That would have been nice to know. Even if the games contribution to the gaming industry was a shit load of sales, tell us that. And for the record, if any baseball game deserves to be on here, it is The Show, period. Saying Baseball Stars deserves it and not The Show is nostalgia glasses.

I feel like an all time list for video games doesn't make sense. How do you compare Missile Command to Mass Effect 2? Maybe make separate lists for each console generation

Where’s Sunset Riders? TMNT Turtles in Time?

i couldnt find the list on the internet could you link me?

Castlevania SOTN and Super Metroid not in the top 10. Wtf?

The list was probably based on how much money GameStop made off of each one.

this list is crazy. As someone with 3+ decades of gaming on every platform console, pc, handeld etc. A good game or best games of all time needs to factor in many things which i think were not included like mario 64 for example not only a great game, but also showed that the transition from a 2d space into 3d can be done well and with that it showed how games could utilize various camera angles or allow the user to control the camera. I could go on and on why so many important games were either left off the list or placed in the wrong sections. A fair list would be to have a open poll with gamers from each age demographic and then take that compiled data and select a panel of industry veterans who are well respected to debate and refine the list. I think doing it that way they could have come up with something a little more close to reality. If anything you guys are right speculating that this list had to be put together by someone young working for that magazine who has not lived and watched the gaming industry change from the 8 bit era until now. Its a damn shame so many great PC games from the 80's-2000's were left off this list. Just the sierra titles alone and lucas arts etc. This list for the most part can burn in hell and die.

CAn you give us an update on dadongol? pardon my spelling

Cod 4 is def top 300. But not top 10.

Yo Jay how about you, Billy Melvor, and anyone else you can recruit should create a top 300 list of your own. I would love to see a video on that what are your top games of all time because I'm not going to lie to you some of those games on the list I question as well when I got my issue of Game Informer.

It'd be cool to see you guys do a follow-up to this video making your own list using this one. Take out the ones that don't belong, reposition the order, etc.

Was Castlevania SOTN on there?

I agree with y'all for a lot of this, but you all really come off as the old grandpas who say "they don't make games like they used to"

What about madden 08 hope anyone knows what I’m talking about

Melvor nailed it there. In the editor blurb in that issue #300 , the editor claims they have a completely different staff than the last one 9 years ago. In 9 years a number of things will be different if they go to #400. Also as someone told me the #1 in issue #200 was the Legend of Zelda : Link to the Past. So it seems to have held that spot. My big question was where Arkham City and Asylum ranked. lol.

I recently have thrown nostalgia out the window when I consider the greatness of games. Very few old games measure up to newer ones. Super Mario 3 & World, Zelda: LTTP are the only ones I still hold in the same regard I did back then.

Tetris is what really bugs the shit out of me. Does it seriously deserve the number 3 spot? Yes, it's an addictive game, yes it made a huge impact to the industry, but the game is as much of a timewaster as games like Candy Crush and Angry Birds. If it was listed at top 15-25 at least, I'd understand it but number 3 on the list? And TLOU is on top 25. That game is not better than most of the games below it. TLOU is not better than RE4, since that game almost ripped off the OTS gameplay style.

Are they putin it based on sales?

Y'all back ground matches my wall! Love it!

The top 10 list does not surprise me at all. Chrono Trigger should be the top RPG on the list, but that's just me.

I agree the list is wonky and MV has a point around its not so much where something is placed but what beat it out. Side note, can you take the plastic or glass out of your picture frames to reduce glare or reflections?

Nice set, Id Remove the plastic cover on top of the poster to get rid of the lighting reflection.

I'm gonna let you guys in on a little secret: Game Informer has ALWAYS sucked, and most things they put out, ESPECIALLY top lists of any kind, also suck. It's no mystery. The only reason GI is even still around as a magazine, is because they tied into Gamestop, one of the only game shops in town for most people, who subsequently try to peddle practically the ONLY game magazine left going. It certainly isn't because GI is popular, or of higher quality than former competitors like Game Pro, or EGM, etc.

Jay if Billy comes on here trolling about that #1 ban his ass.😁

Final Fantasy 6 is totally better than 7. Final Fantasy 6 is art. And Super Mario Bros. 3 is a great game, but Super Mario World is a step above it.

I can see Link to the Past #1. One of my favorite things to watch on Twitch is Ryukahr playing LTTP randomizer. I wish Diablo 2 would of made the top 10.

If it were a list of best games (gameplay and enjoyment wise) then I feel as if a lot of newer games would end up closer to number 1 (say for a few) because as time goes on graphics, gameplay, and scope of games gets bigger and better However, if it were a list of important or revolutionary games then I say older games would definitely deserve the higher spots

what number is turtles in time at

You guys should make your own list and do a video on it

I love when you all just sit together and talk about games. Would be better with Billy and even Dadongo, but things get off track a lot when too many of you are there. But that also makes it highly entertaining.

#100 - Breath of the Wild. #63 - NHL '94. What the FUCK!?! Who hired these clowns?

Terrible list. Although, even tho they’re still new games, Red dead released in 2010 and Skyrim in 2011. So those are newer than obviously games like odyssey. Terribly constructed list though! I feel like they just got a list of games from employees and started drawing from a hat to list each game in order.

The fact that a game like Peggle is on this list conpletely blows my mind!

Be honest with you I was kind of salty that The Last of Us was like 23rd or 24th even though that game received over 200 Awards it is 5 years old but not even in the top five or top 10 that was annoying

Silent Hill better be on that list somewhere. Im gonna go check. EDIT: The Website version of the top 300 is different than the Magazine.

no super metroid in top 10? was super metroid mentioned in this?

You guys are 100% right. Games that are so new are still living off of hype rather than how long after they were made are they still able to be enjoyed. They need to definitely have been out for a certain amount of time before they are on the list.

Sounds like just a list not ranked, I still didn't get my magazine yet? If I'm not mistaking they did a list like this back in Dec. 2009 top 200. No baseball games, and a few more what the bleep.

Tell us your top 10

I'm so tired of Call Of Duty being on everyone's list as if it was made by the gaming gods. That series is so overhyped and people literally jack off at the sound of COD. In fact I believe COD ruined gaming because of the multiplayer bullshit. I say this because games that have a lot of potential get mishandled because they always wanna focus on the multiplayer aspect and the rest of the game suffers because of it.

Chrono Trigger at 16, FFVI at 6? FFVI ten places above Chrono Trigger? That's one major bullshit. FFVI is a great JRPG, but Chrono Trigger tops FFVI at almost everything. Chrono Trigger is practically a JRPG made by the dream team with some of the most well known creators: Hironobu Sakaguchi, Yuji Horii, Akira Toriyama, Nobuo Uematsu. Yasunori Mitsuda made his debut in composing one of the finest music in a video game industry.

it's always subjective listing the best of all time - your choices are based on nostalgia. My 16 year old son loves Skyrim , he's nostalgic for it as he's played it on every system release, every iteration since its release...it means the world to him so it sits nicely in the top 10...for him...personally I want more Monkey Island - Nostalgia see, no Nintendo in our house growing up, but we did have an Amiga...oh and an Atari 800xl - where's Whirlinurd on this list? hehe

I remember being annoyed back in the day when Nintendo Power did their top 100 games of all time maybe a year after the N64 was released and their top game was Mario 64. 5 years should be a minimum for any of these "official" lists.

Omgosh, had to come back cause I just realized how validating this list is for Billy 🤣🤣🤣 oh man, would have been priceless to see his reaction to LttP being named #1 😆.

Monster Hunter: World is on there because it is officially now Capcom's highest grossing game of all time. The franchise never had this much recognition before. Because it drew in the casual mainstream players it became an instant hit. Even if something is new, if it's breaking an all time record, especially in the short amount of time it's been out, it deserves to at least be on a list like this imho

Pretty shoddy rankings, Game informer. Guess i'm another old "Get off my lawn" gamer too lol

I was taking this video seriously until that dufus said Final Fantasy X was a "mess of a game."

It's a crime that the highest grossing arcade game of all-time wasn't on the list, yet Dig-Dug, which I don't even consider to be in my top 10 of the 80's arcade games was on there. Daytona USA was a monster hit in the arcades and definitely one of the top 5 arcade games of all-time.

is game informer run by gamestop?

Part of me thinks discussing a 'top games of all time' list is even more ridiculous than trying to make one, but I still enjoy watching y'all do it :)

I think link to the past is to zelda what smb3 is to super mario so i can see it being top 10 though i personally like smb3 more than link to the past

The list is messed up but Final Fantasy 6 is much better than 7. I'd say it's the second best FF behind 4.

Any Castlevania or Contra games make the list? Mike Tysons punch out

all those fighters are better than tekken lol

Thing is with baseball games, nobody plays them outside US and Japan. Link to the past gets my vote! Great channel!

It's all subjective anyway. My all time favorite game is a tie between Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy IX. Favorite puzzle: Tetris FPS: Halo 1 & 2 Platformer: Mario 64 Hack n Slash: NieR Automata & MGR: Revengeance Beat em Up: Streets of Rage II. Fuck, even games like Journey, Child of Eden, Shadow of the Colossus, and Kingdom Hearts 1 hold a special place in my heart and I consider them masterpieces.

I lost my shit reading the top 100 rpgs of all time list. Skyrim number 1? really? REALLY?? what in the fuck is wrong with these people?

Baseball Stars definitely deserves to be on the list, but Bases Loaded should be there too. It was the definitive baseball game at the time. RBI was ok, but its not on the list because the baseball genre was flooded at the time. Bases Loaded, Baseball Stars, Tony Larussa Baseball on the Genesis should be there as should Ken Griffey Baseball. Those 4 baseball games all were fun, innovative and overall the best for their time. I cant speak to The Show, because honestly I still play Griffey, Larussa and Stars. So... lol

Bioshock definitely deserves to be higher than tekken. I like tekken and tekken 3 is a landmark fighting game. But bioshock when it came out had such a huge impact. It some ways it really brought storytelling back to AAA games.

I'm surprised at how well the room works xd

The fact that they did 300 games is just the biggest mental masturbation of all time from a gaming magazine. It's just too damned many times to even get a real look at.

Couple beefs with your points Jay: Baseball Stars is much, much better than Bases Loaded, and is a much deeper game all around. Also, Street Fighter II, or whatever iteration they put into the list, is both way more influential and a better game than Tekken 3. The top 10 is mostly fine, imo. COD revolutionized online shooters, which is fucking huge. If you are willing to recognize WoW, you should be willing to recognize COD. ALttP is widely accepted as the best Zelda game. I don't think Rockstar should have gotten both RDR and GTA5 in the top 10, both should be top 20, one in top 10, probably RDR. FF6 is a vastly superior game to FF7. FF7 has not aged well, and isn't even considered the best FF on the PS1 (FF9 is better). The Witcher 3 is an absolutely amazing game, and outpaces Skyrim in every way. The only game I truly have beef with is Skyrim, which is so buggy, and the combat is so weak, even at the time it came out. I would have had Super Metroid in the top 10, and I personally thing SMW is better than SMB3 in every single way.

I gotta say I'm happy with A Link to the Past being #1 but none of those new games shouldn't be that high in the top 10. Without changing #1 my top 10 would be: 2. Super Metroid 3. Castlevania: SOTN 4. Donkey Kong 5. Punch out 6. Tetris 7. Super Mario Bros. 3 8. Street Fighter 2 9. Chrono Trigger 10. Sonic 3

Great conversation. I love Tekken but i would have to agree with the list having Street Fighter II CE ranked better

I agree with all of your comments in the video, but I do feel skyrims placement is fair. I know it's not old enough to see how it stands the test of time, but it was mind blowing upon it's release

Alttp deserves it.

So glad The Witcher III is getting the props it deserves. Best game of all time.

I can just imagine how the guys/gals at game informer got a poll going in their office for this top 300. I appreciate the ranking of some of the obscure or oldschool games on this list but like you guys said, this list is way off. It would be hard for any single person to put together a list, some of the games I'm sure deserve to be on here but I haven't played them all. Link to the past deserves to be in top ten as does Mario 3, and probably super mario kart. Skyrim deserves to be in top 5. But I ask how Metal Gear Solid or FF7 aren't in top ten? Thanks for the video and sharing your opinions.

Where was Super Metroid

It would make more sense to do a top 50 for each console. This would eliminate some of the gripes immediately.

The set is looking pretty legit, keep up the great work!!!

any list that ranks freaking peggle above super mario odyssey is automatically invalid.

I tottally agree with you guys, i opened mailbox saw this i was excited and then i start goin threw it.. wtf happened,

Love the points brought up in this video, I too have many problems with this list....(I will say #3 completely deserves it’s spot) but guys....Witcher 3....i can guarantee you that even 5 years from now people will still be talking about how great that game was...anyways love these long videos man keep them coming!

Game informer owned by game stop, that is why new games made the list...come to game stop to purchase a copy of monster hunter world.

I just read this issue. Only thing that made me angry was the lack of new red dead info. The list was okay to me. But I saw red dead on the cover and was like damn thought we were getting more stuff on the game.

I totally agree with Witcher 3 and Skyrim getting their spots. I'm the same age as you guys, and when I used to play old school rpgs, I would imagine them as being the same scope as W3 and ESV. Those two games were the realizations of my childhood imagination. I totally agree with the respect they received.

I hope you know that Final Fantasy 6 is the one you back in 94 got as "III" instead of "VI". And if VII would not win the race chances were high VI or IX would do. They are just that popular by so many people. VI is the one that is constantly mentioned in "Wah VII is overrated, VII sux" fanboy wars.

I feel bad for those kids that had to put this list together. Such a daunting task, but that Top 10 list was terrible. A 5 year waiting period before a game can get into one of these lists just for starters too.

I was glad shining force 2 made the list! It's was way too low but at least it made it

Honestly maybe do a follow up video. Maybe look through the text underneath to see the reasoning behind the ranking. Might make it a bit more transparent on why they gave a game the ranking it has. PS. One of the half life games should be in the top 10 IMO

You guys definitely had some great points. I disagree with this list as well. Knights of the Old Republic was one of my favorite original Xbox game when I got it as well as Max Payne the placing in this list is all messed up some games shouldn't even be included.... Twisted Metal is a great series with Black being one of my favorites although I didn't get into the one for ps3 I wonder which ones are on the list. Ill have to pick this up and read it and check the list out.

Concerning the topic of fighting games: I agree completely with T3 deserving a higher spot. I would rate it at least on par with MvC2 and SF3S. I don't know how exactly the ranking works out on the list, but MK(X) should be knocked down below all of these 3 games for sure.

Monster Hunter World is a great game and in 5 years it will still probably make the list but I can understand why it is too soon for it to make the list because it hasn't even been out long enough for everyone who wants to play it to enjoy it fully yet.... and 100% agree with you about The SHOW!!! It is such a well made game every single year it makes no sense how some of those other sports game made it and The Show didn't

I agree with you guys so much with the perspective of listing. I mean, the idea that if you compare one game to another, if one game is superior it should be higher. Like, Mario Odyssey is better than Peggle; why does Peggle out rank it? GTA 4 is better than Bully; why does it out rank it? And those statements are based of review scores, not my opinion. I will say, I disagree with the idea of new games being disqualified from contention. For example, I knew the first time I played The Last of Us that it was one of my favorite games of all time and it was less than a year old. Now, having said that, the top 10 was still bullshit and the original Zelda, Wind Waker, Ocarina, Minish Cap, Breath of the Wild and Link Between Worlds are all better than Link to the Past. And Halo 2 or 3 should be there instead of Call of Duty based on quality and influence on the modern FPS.

I think the idea with MH world is that a monster hunter game was going to make the list and it is by far the best one to date... So i dont disagree with them putting it at 296

Maybe you have already done it but could you guys give your top tens. Bring billy as well!

Dr.Pepper taste like shit if you let it sit like that.You gotta chug that shit within 5 mins or else it gets flat and tastes like syrup

American Girl: Julie Finds a Way (DS) should have been #108 Barbie and Her Sisters: Puppy Rescue (PS3) should have been #90 Strawberry Shortcake: The Sweet Dreams Game (PS2) should have been #51 Style Lab Makeover (DS) should have been #28 My Ballet Studio (Wii) should have been #4

Also surprised super Metroid wasn’t talked about more considering it’s always brought up in these kind of situations

What was the criteria for measuring what great games are? Sales? Influence on pop culture? Meta critic Score? Advancements in gameplay and design? I certainly don’t believe nostalgia should be a factor for games on this list.

Yeah...telltail Wolf among us was a better game if you're just trying to put a telltail game in!

That list is just so random as fuck....it only starts to really make sense during the top 10

I think it is too hard to compare all video games. More realistic to rank games by genre.

Rufus is an excellent addition!