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Gaming at 1440p is as fast as 1080p while looking better. Seriously. 

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Is upgrading from 1080p to 1440p worth it? Isn't it harder to run a 1440p monitor? With upscaling technologies like DLSS, running games on a 1440p display can look better than running at 1080p native while running at the same FPS.
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@danielowentech
@danielowentech День назад
I checked in on this video comment section and noticed a lot of people thought the original thumbnail (which I've now updated) was calling them "dumb" for having bought a 1080p monitor in the past. This was never the message I intended to convey. I understand that most people on a 1080p display purchased it a few years ago when it probably did make a lot more sense than a 1440p monitor. The goal of this video is to revisit that value proposition in 2024 based on improvements to 1440p monitor pricing and technology as well as better and more widespread upscaling technology allowing weaker GPUs to drive a 1440p display at the same framerates as a 1080p display while achieving better than 1080p image quality.
@JamesRussoMillas
@JamesRussoMillas 19 часов назад
@@danielowentech the point still stands that upscaling to 1440p from 960p is not a replacement for 1080p native. Upscaling looks blurrier.
@NEVER.GIVEUP99
@NEVER.GIVEUP99 14 часов назад
@@JamesRussoMillas Stupid 1440p dlss looks better than 1080p native.. Don't act oversmart
@Laohu7777
@Laohu7777 12 часов назад
I'm sorry I ever commented, Daniel...I hardly ever do. .l am a disabled senior on a fixed income and went budget everything with AMD...and FSR still sucks. My first gaming computer was a 486 with a 3dfx voodoo card ...so I have been around for awhile. I really enjoy your content.
@bjornna7767
@bjornna7767 6 часов назад
@@JamesRussoMillas Nope, you should see it with your own eyes.
@bjornna7767
@bjornna7767 6 часов назад
​@@Laohu7777 The new FSR got way better, yet, ofen times is not supported yet. I would advice you to try out Reshade, you can counter many disadvantages of upscaling with it and you can push the graphic fidelity/atmosphere quite a bit. Used to playing on 1440p triples with a GTX 970 upscaled from 720p or even less. If there's a will, there's a way. Some fellows looking at my upscaling + Reshade don't believe me it's 720p on 1440p screens. A 486 with a voodoo? That's some CPU bottleneck action, yet those GPUs were quite CPU-independent back then, right?
@Laohu7777
@Laohu7777 2 дня назад
I'm not dumb, just poor.
@Micromation
@Micromation 2 дня назад
Man, you need to learn to save money. I can assure you that very few people buying 4090 don't feel the impact on their finances. You can get GREAT 2nd hand monitors 1440p for under $200. For example Gigabyte M27Q V2 or LG 27GP850-B were some of the go-to monitors just a couple of years ago someone paid 500+ for and now they're hitting the market. Facebook marketplace and similar local markets are literal goldmine for gems like this.
@jooyichen
@jooyichen 2 дня назад
I have played 4K with God Rays in Far Cry 4 using a $300 Gtx 970. That was 10 years ago via DSR. With the help of the internet, you still had 10 years of being dumb. It's inexcusable.
@THUGPUTIN
@THUGPUTIN 2 дня назад
Well not everyone can afford a gaming hardware to run game so 1080p.... With gaming requirements been bumped up for no reason whatsoever when a 4gb ram, 3gb vram pc is running cyberpunk in 40fps in city is crazy... What we need is optimisation.. If gane developers do it, we can buy 1080p of 4k screen.. Even with fsr, dlss, not every game is good at it.. Lot more detail 2:09.. Majority of times, it's not visible and you play games for entertainment not for detail...
@Weroleytor
@Weroleytor 2 дня назад
@@jooyichen So you had a mid-high end GPU 10 years ago and played a 2014 game at 4K...? who cares about that? are you implying AAA 2024 games are as hard to run as FC4? lmao A 4070 can't even get 60fps on some games at Ultra settings and native 4K, most people can't afford it to begin with, your $300 970 would cost around $400 due to inflation, a 4070 costs around $540 today, then you also have to add in the rest of the system, most people can't afford that and with a weaker GPU like the 6750XT or the overpriced 4060 you aren't going to have a good experience at 4K even with DLSS/FSR
@bjornna7767
@bjornna7767 2 дня назад
@@Weroleytor The few good new games doesn't justifiy a $1.000+ GPU for me. I'm happy with my $300 RX 6700XT. It depends on what games you are playing. I mostly play games that are 10 years old or older, racing games and shooters. I'm using triple screens, with some settings and Reshade I could pull off a playable framerate with this card @ 4K, yet, I only own 1440p monitors, I'm completely fine with. Please don't compare an RX 6750xt to a 4060, the 4060 is way weaker in rasterization and way overpriced. I'm with you, that both cards are not good for 4k, but Reshade can work wonders...
@lucasjuhas12
@lucasjuhas12 3 дня назад
Yeah, we ain't playing at 1080p native, we're already using DLSS to be able to run games lol
@electricant55
@electricant55 3 дня назад
absolute cap
@mrman6035
@mrman6035 3 дня назад
yeah with how most triple aaa slop runs now even high end gpus cant reach 1080p 60+ fps already lol
@zucroh
@zucroh 3 дня назад
this should be higher up
@electricant55
@electricant55 3 дня назад
@@mrman6035 which ones? Cyberpunk with Path Tracing? Show me some games that can't get 1080/60 on a 4080 or 4090 in normal rasterization
@jdudbdjxb7687
@jdudbdjxb7687 3 дня назад
​@electricant55 how? Most people just turn on dlss anyways because "more fps" so yeah, most people aren't running 1080p native and wouldn't even keep it that way if it meant less fps
@verde5738
@verde5738 2 дня назад
You're missing one crucial detail here. Most people aren't playing at 1080p by choice, but through necessity. Spending 300$ on a Display for someone who's still gaming on a 5-10 year old GPU and struggles to maintain 60FPS on Low/Medium settings makes absolutely zero sense. Especially when the difference in visual quality, as shown by your comparison, is minimal and barely perceivable unless you're looking for it. You can add Sharpness to your 1080p display through things like ReShade and achieve a similar visual effect to DLSS, so personally I would recommend those free alternatives instead of wasting 200-300$ on a Display when that money could be put towards buying a new GPU/CPU, which are the far more important components for gaming since it doesn't matter how good your Display looks if you can't maintain a steady framerate.
@Fazzyy
@Fazzyy 3 дня назад
Well Daniel, if you’re offering to buy me a 1440p monitor then.. I won’t say no to that 😅
@Rullino32
@Rullino32 День назад
True, but unfortunately the only game i can run at 1440p with the hardware I have is Banana simulator on Steam 😅.
@ChiekoGamers
@ChiekoGamers 2 дня назад
Not everyone on planet Earth lives in a 1st world country. 1440p gaming is still expensive in most 3rd world countries. The average wage here in the Philippines is $300 a month. PC parts are 30-50% more expensive here compared to the USA. 1050ti and RX570s are still in demand here.
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 2 дня назад
Coming from India, yes things are expensive in hardware but software is cheaper much cheaper for us and although old GPUs are in demand, they are terrible value. You're still getting the best from 6600 and 3060 or A750.
@siyzerix
@siyzerix 2 дня назад
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat My guy. In India you can buy a gigabyte g5 with an rtx 4050 75w for ~65k, if not cheaper with sales + schemes. Thats ~$750 which is pretty good for rx6600 levels of performance. Heck, you could even buy an rtx 2050 or 3050 laptop for ~45-55k which is ~$540 to $650. Thats around rx570 to gtx 1660 levels of performance.
@sulphurous2656
@sulphurous2656 День назад
It's expensive even in the 2nd world due to taxes and retailer price gouging.
@donloder1
@donloder1 День назад
the thing is, daniel came from a place of abundance. when we have a 1080p that still works just fone, ain't no way in hell we'd be getting a 1440p when that money can be used for better PC hardware. and a bunch of fools down here could never even imagine someone think spending 200-300 USD to replace a perfectly fine 1080p monitors is biscuits. the video's thumbnail says 1080 is dumb, he opened out by pointing out 1080p users having a larger margin in Steam survey. Idk about you but that is straight up insulting, not even throwing shades. It don't matter what scientifique results he conducted says, it's not about telling ppl to buy 1440p monitors, it's about being blatantly ignorant and dismissive while making his point. I'm sorry but if he wanted to provide a case study then there's no need to call out 1080p user like they live in the part. I reason is as straight forward as it gets, mfs just can't afford a new one when the current is fine.
@electricant55
@electricant55 День назад
@@donloder1 1080p hasn't been "fine" for 10 years now
@samgragas8467
@samgragas8467 3 дня назад
2030 Daniel be like: 4k is dumb, upscaled 2880p looks better.
@VanyaYlianov
@VanyaYlianov 3 дня назад
but 2880p is higher than 4k(2160), its gonna be 5k 5120 x 2880)
@enricofermi3471
@enricofermi3471 3 дня назад
I played Doom 3 upscaled from, as far as I remember, 2880x1800 (or maybe 2800x1800) via LosslessScaling app, using FSR1, which is nowhere near the DLSS/XeSS/FSR3 level of quality. And it looked decent on a 4K monitor. You would need to inspect the picture really hard to find the minute imperfections. Now imagine 4K upscaled to 5Kor even 8K using actual advanced algorithms.
@syncmonism
@syncmonism 3 дня назад
@@VanyaYlianov He's implying that people will have 6k or 8k monitors by then, and that Owen will be recommending that people upscale from 2880p with them, but I think he's joking. Somehow I don't think that resolutions above 4k are going to be popular by 2030, or even years afterward, as you are definitely getting diminishing returns in subjective image quality at 6k or 8k. The 4k resolution standard could last for a very, very long time. Improvements in other aspects of image quality are likely to matter more, like just having ever improving and ever more affordable displays which can do high-contrast per pixel (such as with Oled displays), and high color accuracy.
@intermilan9731
@intermilan9731 3 дня назад
How dare you be poor and not buy expensive stuff like me.
@11cat123
@11cat123 2 дня назад
@@syncmonism I definitely think resolution is going to remain fairly constant while color accuracy, response times, and contrast make the major innovations. Higher resolution displays will still have their use in professional work where you are working with 5k or 8k source footage, but for media consumption and regular use, even 4k is fairly overkill unless you have a larger monitor or are using a large TV as your display, especially considering its large performance cost compared to native 1440p with only a very minor quality uplift that is partially negated by using DLAA on the 1440p monitor anyways.
@Arokhantos
@Arokhantos 3 дня назад
upscaling is kind of made for 1440p and up not for 1080p it just shows that upscaling is not considered good enough, while in reality it is far better at 4k and 1440p then it is at 1080p
@TechTusiast
@TechTusiast 2 дня назад
One positive thing about 4K is, when I had a 1440p monitor, I often chose not to use DLSS/FSR. It was ok sometimes, but not in all games. With 4K native monitor, running games at DLSS/FSR is ok, where native resolution is like 1440p...
@Carlos-wl5fn
@Carlos-wl5fn 2 дня назад
DLAA is the star of the show for 1080p and I also used custom DLSS with DLSSTweaks to get UltraQuality (0.77) when I needed a boost on my 2060 super. It was enough to get me over 60 in the tougher to run games and looked very similar to native. UltraQuality is for 1080p
@kevinerbs2778
@kevinerbs2778 2 дня назад
@@TechTusiast is that with AA on or AA disabled? cause 4K while your playing the game I doubt you can actually see the jaggies anyways. I mean all these reviews always have to zoom in to 200x to 300x just show you jaggies. I'm just thinking about how close some people are to these massive 43"+ 4K screens while playing & still complain. It's like they're 10 inches away from the screen or less. Just imagine that in your head.... LOL
@itsaUSBline
@itsaUSBline 2 дня назад
yeah, upscaling to 4k looks really good, because you're working with a much higher source resolution. upscaling to 1080p or even 1440p looks noticeably worse.
@bjornna7767
@bjornna7767 2 дня назад
@@itsaUSBline True. It's def the way to go, upscaling is the future, getting better and better. And yeah, ofc it's better with more native res. With my old GTX 970 I sometimes rendered half of 1440p on triple screens and upscaled it. Some older games would run @ 60+fps and looked okay, but ofc it was noticable. Tell you what, Reshade can work wonders! You can make e.g. 720p look amazing if you know how.
@garethperks7032
@garethperks7032 2 дня назад
This is definitely for a 1st-world audience. $300 in the 3rd world feeds a person for 2-3 months. Possibly longer if you spend wisely and cook at home. I bet $300 would barely last 1 month for an American's feed. Huge salary differences and costs of living. Wallet bottle-necking is also not just a meme.
@peterfischer2039
@peterfischer2039 2 дня назад
I pay around 100-150 per month on food in Germany. If I really wanted to, I could push that below 100, but then I would never treat myself to something nice.
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 2 дня назад
should you really be gaming then, if your life is so difficult?
@pedroferrr1412
@pedroferrr1412 2 дня назад
@@peterfischer2039 Well, i pay around 110€ for 10 days, just for me. But i cannot eat "normal" food, due to my condition. Than, i pay 200€ for my son food, that will give him, 15 to 20 days. This is in Portugal!
@johnnypenso9574
@johnnypenso9574 2 дня назад
Third worlders spending $25/week on food aren't watching videos about how to get to 1440p resolution.
@garethperks7032
@garethperks7032 2 дня назад
@@peterfischer2039 Good Lord man! You must live off scraps. My mom in Holland has to spend about 350 euro monthly per person. About $380.
@aokijikuzan2131
@aokijikuzan2131 3 дня назад
Yes it is better, but not for poor peasants like us
@syncmonism
@syncmonism 3 дня назад
XP
@FreakySponge
@FreakySponge 3 дня назад
Im a poor peasant
@JayPlaylists
@JayPlaylists 3 дня назад
My son runs a 6750 XT, 5600x, 16GB CL14 3200Mhz, on a Samsung 60hz 24”, streams on twitch and he is perfectly fine with it. I have a 4080 Super with a 7800X3D, 64GB CL 6000Mhz on a 240hz 1440p panel and thinking off buying OLED. Why? Because I’m always on RU-vid seeing reviews and wanting the best. Otherwise I would possibly would be using the same rig as him.
@tek1645
@tek1645 3 дня назад
They are dirt cheap nowadays
@owerpovered3330
@owerpovered3330 3 дня назад
@@JayPlaylists Man buy yourself a XG27AQDMG and give your current monitor to your son. He is missing so much with a 60hz display.
@phazonlord0098
@phazonlord0098 2 дня назад
1080p: *exists* TAA: I'm about to end this man's whole career.
@Scorpwind
@Scorpwind 2 дня назад
1080p will continue to be the most common resolution and there are reasons for it. Some of which you have stated in this video. The main detriment to image quality in today's games is *temporal anti-aliasing and upscaling* It significantly blurs the image. Especially *in motion* If you disable temporal AA at basically *any* resolution, then you will get a significant boost in clarity. It is because of this, that 1080p might seem bad to you. 1080p without temporal AA butchering it is still very much fine. It's not the resolution that's the issue. It's the anti-aliasing.
@kn6836
@kn6836 2 дня назад
Finaly someone who understand 🙏
@Scorpwind
@Scorpwind 2 дня назад
@@kn6836 The 1080p native footage that he was showing here was practically sub-900p in terms of motion clarity. If he would've shown native 1080p *without* any kind of temporal AA or upscaling nonsense, then he would've actually gotten true 1080p clarity.
@videogaminbiker889
@videogaminbiker889 2 дня назад
TAA has obliterated image quality immensely in moderns games, despite what people think sharpening doesn't fix it at all. If you want a closer to native image whilst using TAA you need to be running the game at 150% or 200% resolution scale, but even then depending how terrible the particular implementation is it's still going to look shit as soon as you move at all.
@Scorpwind
@Scorpwind 2 дня назад
@@videogaminbiker889 Precisely.
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 2 дня назад
1080p will be surpassed, upscalars will make it easy for more GPUs to run higher resolutions. Monitors and display prices are going down. Your TAA statement doesn't factor in the fact that most modern games have high levels of details that are too much for the no. of pixels on your monitor. Games with Mesh shaders, nanite etc will require you to have higher resolutions for distant objects not to become a pixelated mess
@aakarshansharma8771
@aakarshansharma8771 3 дня назад
I build my pc in 2023 with a 6750xt and bought a 1080p monitor so that my graphic card can play games coming next year with higher graphics option and i am glad i did that even if my gc was a 2k graphics card. Now i was able to play games like hellblade 2 and Alan wake 2 with medium settings at 1080p and still get above 60fps
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 2 дня назад
I think Daniel has gotten used to having a teachers salary on top of some YT pocket money. The reason people are running 1080p is because wages haven't kept up with inflation, so they're already running upscaling on medium settings at 1080p. And if they manage to scrounge up $300 for a PC upgrade they'll get a 6700XT that can do 1080p High/Ultra Native. Getting a $300 1440p monitor, instead, and going to DLSS/FSR Performance on medium settings does not feel like "getting something".
@Rullino32
@Rullino32 День назад
True, what he said is only true for some people, I've had low-end PCs for most of my life, so I'd have used FSR performance even at 1080p, but I'll probably upgrade to a laptop with a good AMD iGPU or one with the 4060.
@Games_and_Tech
@Games_and_Tech 3 дня назад
The problem of 1440p monitors is that you are going to see native 1440p at some point, and then you will notice how trash is 1080p and all upscaling including dlss... then you have to have a better GPU for the same 1080p performance... there is no fix there... if you can keep yourself out of 1440p and 4k, it will save you money if you don't know better...
@soraceant
@soraceant 3 дня назад
Ignorance is bliss eh
@intermilan9731
@intermilan9731 3 дня назад
Yes. No one seems to consider the powerful GPUs you need.
@Dexion845
@Dexion845 2 дня назад
No, I play on a 27in 1440p monitor and I basically have to pixel-peep with my eye two inches away from the screen to tell the difference in quality from native and DLSS Quality. From a comfortable playing distance which is at least an arm's length or more. I cannot tell a difference.
@Games_and_Tech
@Games_and_Tech 2 дня назад
@@Dexion845 Not all people are as blind as you...
@Dexion845
@Dexion845 2 дня назад
@@Games_and_Tech lol spare me the ad-hominem do your research the majority of people and even youtube creators themselves hold the same position.
@BladeCrew
@BladeCrew 3 дня назад
You ask why I run 1080p and not 1440p monitor, in my country the cheapest 1440p monitor is 300 dollars locally. If I buy the cheapest 1440p monitor on amazon its 180 dollars + 235 dollar(import fee). which put it at 415 dollars.
@bansheezs
@bansheezs 3 дня назад
maybe you should vote to reduce tarrifs.
@The1commenterguy
@The1commenterguy 3 дня назад
I mean alot of tech tubers (including Daniel) makes videos with a Western market audience in mind
@japanesesamurai4945
@japanesesamurai4945 3 дня назад
i don't believe you. cap 🧢
@mercuryvirus
@mercuryvirus 3 дня назад
Brazil?
@Daniel-oc8sx
@Daniel-oc8sx 3 дня назад
@@japanesesamurai4945 Here in Brazil it's like this, can confirm
@dune1249
@dune1249 3 дня назад
Still rocking a 1600X900 monitor since 7 years.
@intermilan9731
@intermilan9731 3 дня назад
I just upgraded to that exact res from 1366 768. Everything is so sharp and detailed.
@nickochioneantony9288
@nickochioneantony9288 2 дня назад
people just don't know how 900p save alot of people with Intel HD Graphics back in 2010s... Playing Mass Effect 2, Dishonored, Far Cry 3 on Intel igpu was a godsend for people with office-use only PC.
@Rullino32
@Rullino32 День назад
​@@nickochioneantony9288True, but theses monitors are still good to this day if you have a low budget and don't want to upgrade the graphics card as much as the average 1440p gamer.
@dontmatter4423
@dontmatter4423 День назад
if you can afford playing at 1080p, definitely upgrade. the resolution upgrade is massive
@Grant_S_M
@Grant_S_M 3 дня назад
Not everyone can afford to replace a 1080 monitor that works fine already.
@mgrb3
@mgrb3 3 дня назад
No one hit you on the hand to force you to buy something. This is just an idea for anyone who is thinking of getting a screen in the future
@chucky7399
@chucky7399 3 дня назад
No shit sherlock he just makes a point
@phm04
@phm04 3 дня назад
1440p displays are dirt cheap
@randompersonvx6842
@randompersonvx6842 3 дня назад
@@phm04 200$ is very cheap
@B_Machine
@B_Machine 3 дня назад
No, but it is becoming accessible to more people. I would go browse Amazon and such and see what you find.
@Kyoro246
@Kyoro246 3 дня назад
I don't have money to upgrade my old pc man, how can i upgrade my monitor.
@sammiller6631
@sammiller6631 День назад
Sell plasma to upgrade your old pc
@alargecorgi2199
@alargecorgi2199 День назад
Simple, you upgrade your monitor first, since it will last you long time. Upgrade PC after, since it will be obsolete immediately.
@PixelShade
@PixelShade 2 дня назад
Majority of PC Gamer's don't live in a first world country. When a new "cheap" 300$ monitor is more than a month's salary you start to value hardware differently. One thing I can recommend for those people is to activate DSR Scaling (or Radeon Super Resolution). Allowing games to run above native resolution. Then use DLSS- or FSR Quality. The card will super sample and downscale the graphics to your native resolution. Improving image quality drastically. This works for older cards like the 1050Ti and RX580 using FSR2+ as well (although it can be a hit or miss depending on how much "shimmering" the implementation has)
@Fantomas24ARM
@Fantomas24ARM 3 дня назад
You can say the same about 4K. All you need is a 2K capable card and you can play on 4K DLSS Quality which looks amazing.
@myquietreviewsfeaturingc.t9354
That's what I do on my 3080 & to me it looks AMAZING 😱😱😱 I have a 42 inch LG C3 I bought a few months ago & once you can get 4K without any DLSS or FG I'll upgrade my GPU 🤦🏿🤷🏿
@Fantomas24ARM
@Fantomas24ARM 3 дня назад
@@myquietreviewsfeaturingc.t9354 yes me too. I also have a 3080 and you can easily play on 4K with some adjustments and DLSS Quality.
@electricant55
@electricant55 3 дня назад
and you would be right, 4k is the only resolution that makes sense these days
@adriankoch964
@adriankoch964 3 дня назад
Just can get a bit more tricky because of VRAM constraints. Some games from from 8GB VRAM usage on 1080p high to like 10GB when you go to 1440p+Upscaling. RT&FG add another 2GB VRAM usage on top of that. At 4k output this will be even more, so on 3000 cards you may have to drop to lower textures because of that or get texture popping or stutters in unoptimized titles, or crashes in terrible releases).
@alanliang9538
@alanliang9538 3 дня назад
so my 1060 is 1080p capable. that also makes it 2k capable and consequently also 4k capable
@HardyDimension
@HardyDimension 2 дня назад
Daniel has the point, meanwhile it also involves several concerns for some of the users here: 1) As you mentioned, it will be a bit different case if the users are using AMD GPU which is using FSR, not DLSS. 2) It is much cheaper in US and certain 1st world countries but different story to 2nd or 3rd world countries. The price and the living standard is day and night difference😅 3) Many users said that 1080p display is blur or pixelated. I believe most of them are comparing from a 27" 1080p rather than a 23.8" 1080p display, the latter looks sharp. 3) A lot of 1440p options available in YT nowadays but VAST majority of video resolution is still 1080p maximum. I think this one is depending on personal acceptance level in term of the sharpness of the image quality. As well as watching a 1080p content outside of YT or any online platform. I saw some users mentioned that watching 1080p content on YT is different than watching a 1080p downloaded content, the latter is better if not mistaken?👀
@kenshirogenjuro873
@kenshirogenjuro873 3 дня назад
Most of the world isn’t as privileged as the US in terms of average buying power. I’m actually kind of surprised as high a percentage of gamers world-wide are even on that high of a resolution, to be honest. It’s good to be aware and appreciative to be so fortunate.
@bjornna7767
@bjornna7767 2 дня назад
Fortune doesn't come on its own.
@liljom
@liljom 2 дня назад
And this fact is actually beneficial from an environmental perspective. Encouraging people to drop their perfectly capable and well-working hardware that they enjoy to switch to a bit better image quality is so wasteful and american.
@bjornna7767
@bjornna7767 2 дня назад
@@liljom Wasteful? Can you eat hardware?
@bjornna7767
@bjornna7767 2 дня назад
@@liljom This "wastefulness" leads to an affordable second hand market....more and more people can't see the bigger picture. If everyone holds onto his stuff, fewer people could afford it as a used product....
@PVTParts-eu3zl
@PVTParts-eu3zl 23 часа назад
@@bjornna7767the fact that you couldn’t fathom that wasting money is a concept really shows you’re from the great USA
@fuzzymuppet1990
@fuzzymuppet1990 3 дня назад
Remember using just basic anti-aliasing back in the early/ mid 2000s? You could run a game at 16xAA or 8x AA , the visual quality of the game was Mega sharp and clear, no jaggies period .. no blur whatsoever. Not like modern AA, which basically blurs the crap out of your image to varying degrees. there is still jaggies on everything if you look through the blur.
@thelegendaryklobb2879
@thelegendaryklobb2879 2 дня назад
TAA is eye cancer. That's why I hate DLSS and FSR too, at least at 1080p. Native or bust, and preferably with other AA method than TAA.
@alargecorgi2199
@alargecorgi2199 День назад
If you ran 16xAA today, your card would NOT be able to handle most games. The reason why the industry moved to TAA and other types of AA is because its too expensive and makes the fps super bad. Most gamers don't know about this. You think developers choose TAA because its worse or something?
@fuzzymuppet1990
@fuzzymuppet1990 День назад
@alargecorgi2199 Oh, i understand and completely agree with you. I was just reminiscing on the good ole days.
@tamaskurunczi1425
@tamaskurunczi1425 День назад
@@alargecorgi2199 No, they moved on post process AA since MSAA doesn't work well with deferred rendering. Big problem is that in almost every new game you can't turn off that f*** post process AA. And it looks crap, blurry mess. Usually DLSS and even FSR looks way better, in that aspect it's true that 'DLSS is better than native'. But in reality all 3 of them looks way worse than native without AA. Ofc with AA turned off the game looks pixelated, but just let ppl decide what they prefer. Me the latter.
@alargecorgi2199
@alargecorgi2199 10 часов назад
@@tamaskurunczi1425 When everyone is playing at 4K it won't matter imo. Just a matter of time before people can't see pixels anymore because nobody is playing at 1080p.
@BlueShadow-dark23
@BlueShadow-dark23 3 дня назад
When I got my 1440p 144hz monitor last year for my 6700XT, I was blown away by how clear everything looked. It blows 1080p out of water. Even old games like Doom and Minecraft looked more sharp and clear. And of course, modern games looked better too, like Doom Eternal and Spider Man Remastered. I never was able to go back to 1080p after that. My games finally looked like I thought they were going look like, the colors too on the monitor were way better, a lot more vibrant. I don’t really use upscaling that much, I mainly play at native, as most of the games I play are optimized. I would use it though, if I needed a performance boost.
@audiophizile13
@audiophizile13 2 дня назад
The comparison between 1440p and 18080 is dramatic. Going to 1440 you can lower most settings and it will still look much better than 1080 in most ways
@jayceneal5273
@jayceneal5273 2 дня назад
Not entirely fair, because its really not the actual monitor itself that's the problem, just how games use post processing that don't look good at that resolution level. If you use dsr or dldsr on a 1080p screen it looks amazing.
@albert2006xp
@albert2006xp День назад
Not using DLDSR in the comparison is criminally missing a crucial aspect of 1080p gaming. DLDSR 1.78x + DLSS P is pretty much the sweetspot of good performance and still good image. If you can go up to DLSS Q or DLDSR 2.25x that's great but that's on a game by game basis. Buying a 1440p to be forced to play at best DLSS P 1440p is a waste. Especially when you really can't go lower than that. At least with 1080p if performance is really bad you can just do regular non-dldsr dlss.
@jayceneal5273
@jayceneal5273 День назад
@@albert2006xp yeah, I've been using 2880x1620 dldsr with DLSS quality to basically get DLAA+ on my 4070. Runs great and looks amazing on my 24 inch 1080p monitor. For more intensive games I can just drop DLSS to lower settings and it still looks quite good
@alun1038
@alun1038 2 дня назад
1440p 165Hz monitors are available for around $150 or even less where I live, so it makes very little sense to buy 1080p. It’s depending on where you live obviously, but it’s crazy that in China you could find them for around $110
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 2 дня назад
This works even if you're actually on a 1080p monitor as well, render at 1440p DLLS Q or B, then downscale back to 1080p, way less aliasing, more detail and overall better image quality, about the same performance.
@momensaber1189
@momensaber1189 2 дня назад
Is there something like this for AMD GPUs?
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 2 дня назад
@@momensaber1189 rendering at higher than native resolution? you just do it, has nothing to do with what graphics card you have. Maybe you're talking about the DLSS part of it, to make the rendering less taxing, FSR would be the AMD version of it, which is an upscaler that works on any modern gpu, GeForce, Radeon or Arc.
@momensaber1189
@momensaber1189 2 дня назад
@@MaxIronsThird I don't think amd has something cool such as dlls q or b. We have something called vsr and I tried it and honestly it looked weird.. 😞 not the result I wanted
@erickalvarez6486
@erickalvarez6486 2 дня назад
Ok but what about amd owners with fsr? Lol
@sacredus9995
@sacredus9995 3 дня назад
You're forgetting not everyone are living in wealthy countries and can afford 1440p screens, not to mention fast and even more expensive GPU to support it. 1080p will stay dominating resolution for very long time.
@InternetListener
@InternetListener 3 дня назад
even older GPUs have better efficiency at Mpix/s render output at higher resolution, so you may be wrong... cheap 1440p is a thing for sure, but there's another middle ground option. Downscaling... You render the image at higher resolution and you get much better image quality with almost no FPS cost if your game is already bottlenecked...
@pasha715
@pasha715 3 дня назад
here cheapest 1440p is some tesla 6ms 100hz ips 27inch for 162 euro, like half to 1 year ago cheapest was 256 euro 144hz, now 222, for 162 euro 60 or 75 hz is best u could get before at that price, they will prob get cheaper as oled get more popular / common
@Azccccc
@Azccccc 3 дня назад
@@pasha715 100hz monitor is shit for gaming
@pdmerritt
@pdmerritt 3 дня назад
@@Azccccc This statement is SOOOOOO wrong!!!!! The only games that will be seriously impacted by 100hz refresh are competitive shooters. ANY and I repeat ANY other game running at 90hz or above will be very smooth and see diminishing returns with higher refresh rates.
@pasha715
@pasha715 3 дня назад
@@Azccccc like pdmerritt said, if u are competetive player, 144hz or more is better but in my case im playing single player games more, 100hz is good enough for me, im atm at 60
@Igorious92
@Igorious92 2 дня назад
While you count pixels and FPS, game masterpieces require Intel HD Graphics 530, because gameplay rules.
@iitzfizz
@iitzfizz 2 дня назад
I'm currently using a 1080p 165hz monitor but I'm buying a 1440p monitor soon.
@Crimsongz
@Crimsongz 2 дня назад
Same
@puffyips
@puffyips 3 дня назад
I play shooters competitively so 24in monitor is the most comfortable, 27 is just a bit too big so 1440p isn’t an option. It’s that simple for some people.
@ThomasEmain
@ThomasEmain 3 дня назад
why not 1440p 24in?
@puffyips
@puffyips 3 дня назад
@@ThomasEmainthere’s like 1 high refresh 1440p that’s 24in, I’m perfectly happy with my 1080p 240hz XG2431 from viewsonic. I do have a secondary monitor that is 24in 1440p but it’s 60hz, only got it for a seamless dual setup.
@AstroBot-bc0213
@AstroBot-bc0213 2 дня назад
@@puffyipswhich one I thought they didn’t exist 😂
@Seizuqi
@Seizuqi 3 дня назад
most people dont have pcs strong enough to render 1440p in games even with upscaling lol
@Trisstan20
@Trisstan20 2 дня назад
native 1440p is so easy, 6700, 3060 and you are good to go
@Trisstan20
@Trisstan20 2 дня назад
its not just gamimg, bigger monitor, higher resolution is so much better for work, browsing, watching youtube whateva..
@alfonso5177
@alfonso5177 2 дня назад
Steam charts says most people have RTX 3060
@haruusami1831
@haruusami1831 2 дня назад
@@alfonso5177 People who have submitted the survey.....seriously, steam is not a representation of every PC. I was still using a i7-6700 few month back with RX6600 no survey, now i got a new CPU etc Ryzen 5600 i finally got a survey sent to me, what im saying this? because in 3rd world country the cost of some computer parts is so expensive that many users are still using 2016 or much older systems, nowadays given AM4 is getting much cheaper, many are finally upgrading their whole setup. Its also the reason why 1080p would still be dominant for years to come, alot of people don't have extra disposable income for their hobby and given gaming takes away your time alot most are satisfied with 1080p for simply booting few games they play that they enjoy (especially outside of 1st world country that's mostly F2P competitive games).
@christophermullins7163
@christophermullins7163 2 дня назад
​@@Trisstan20people will always use this "got a low res because I didn't want to spend more on a GPU". It is an incredibly ignorant and short sighted perspective.
@sulphurous2656
@sulphurous2656 День назад
You can spend $200 on a 1080p 240Hz IPS panel and daily drive that thing just fine. I think most people even in the 1st and 2nd world who are conscious about their spending will be content with that.
@SKHYJINX
@SKHYJINX 3 дня назад
Instead of buying a new monitor, use AMD VSR 1440p and Nvidia DLDSR 1440p on your 1080p panel then use FSR 3 or DLSS / XESS / TSR Downscale Desktop (Windowed Borderess forced Games) + Upscale Game, still beats Native 1080p + TAA in majority of games. AMD VSR / NVIDIA DLDSR is there for your 1080p panels, and KEEPS your Refresh rate active. So 1080p 120Hz can be 1440p/1620p/4K 120Hz
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 2 дня назад
yep
@datwar2089
@datwar2089 2 дня назад
I so do
@Micromation
@Micromation 2 дня назад
That's what I do except on 1440p ultrawide 😂 But a better option would be just being able to disable TAA... too bad we're stuck with that garbage being forced everywhere nowadays...
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 2 дня назад
No, vsr/DLDSR will never be as good as a new monitor. Due to these foolish advices people justify their bad monitor purchases. If you just want better anti aliasing use DLAA or FSR native AA mods.
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 2 дня назад
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat DLDSR is free, no new monitor required, also DLAA ia heavier than DLDSR B(even Q sometimes) and looks the same.
@MauriBT
@MauriBT 2 дня назад
I have a 1440p ultrawide 165hz monitor and there are very few games where I reach 165fps, I'm seriously thinking about buying a 1080p monitor to be able to have a higher framerate, less consumption.
@mitu123Copper
@mitu123Copper 2 дня назад
Would you go for a 1080p ultrawide(2560x1080)?
@MauriBT
@MauriBT 2 дня назад
@@mitu123Copper I think 16:9
@mitu123Copper
@mitu123Copper 2 дня назад
@@MauriBT Fair enough. Personally the lowest I would go is 2560x1080, but I'm on 3440x1440 now.
@jetzepr23YT
@jetzepr23YT 2 дня назад
I've been using DLDSR at 2880x1620 on a 1080p 24 inch display and the quality difference is pretty noticeable sometimes I turn on dlss and it pretty much runs the same as 1080p but looks way better even on a small display.
@Crimsongz
@Crimsongz 2 дня назад
Same 💯
@wolfandspice
@wolfandspice День назад
And here I am with a 19 inch 900p monitor.
@Zenzuu
@Zenzuu 2 дня назад
In my opinion, 1440p is the sweet spot between image quality and performance.
@antondovydaitis2261
@antondovydaitis2261 3 дня назад
Money. You might have heard of it?
@SweetFlexZ
@SweetFlexZ 3 дня назад
Get a job.
@theaveragecactus
@theaveragecactus 3 дня назад
​@SweetFlexZ do you have any idea how the world works? just because someone has a job doesn't mean they have money. people need to live, and while the cost of living is increasing more than ever wages are not increasing to match. so how about instead of telling people to "just work", you try taking a look at anything below the surface?
@MarcinTrybus
@MarcinTrybus 3 дня назад
If you have no money you should not be gaming either way. ;)
@alumlovescake
@alumlovescake 3 дня назад
Guy has 189K subs I think money left his vocabulary long ago
@SweetFlexZ
@SweetFlexZ 3 дня назад
@@theaveragecactus Mate, gaming and pc world is literally a whim, is not necessity like food, if you don't have enough money don't blame someone else, maybe you should get a better job (can't afford a 200€ monitor, weird)
@KingFeraligator
@KingFeraligator 5 дней назад
Can you do this sort of video again with a 3060, 4060, and low end AMD options? Maybe even a 1060 or 1070?
@danielowentech
@danielowentech 5 дней назад
1060/70 lack DLSS support and are getting pretty weak for even 1080p in a lot of newer games. The 3060 and 4060 are getting covered at 1080p and 1440p in upcoming videos (already available on early access for channel members).
@KingFeraligator
@KingFeraligator 5 дней назад
@@danielowentech I don't see the 3060 and 4060 videos on early access, do you mean the 3060 vs 4060 video?
@danielowentech
@danielowentech 5 дней назад
@@KingFeraligator yes, you can see how they perform at 1440p and 1080p in those videos, although I didn't put DLSS 1440p side by side with 1080p like I did in this video the same information is all there.
@greendude0420
@greendude0420 День назад
I can actually see the differences through RU-vid compression😂
@datsneakysnek
@datsneakysnek 3 дня назад
Use 1440p monitor with DLSS quality...very smart... use 4k monitor to run DLSS performance...super duper smart!
@earvinarp
@earvinarp 3 дня назад
Competitive games are best played at 1080p in a 24 inch monitor.
@keatonwastaken
@keatonwastaken 3 дня назад
personal preference, some players prefer 27 inches 1440p as well, most of the players use 1080p because experts don't like to change hardware like that.
@Katze822228
@Katze822228 3 дня назад
@@keatonwastaken it's not because we don't like change, it's because no matter at what price point there's a 1080p monitor that beats the 1440p monitor in terms of refresh rate and response times. Also 1080p is easier to run, upscaling is not really usable for most competetive games and lower fps or higher GPU load mean higher latency.
@keatonwastaken
@keatonwastaken 3 дня назад
@@Katze822228 That's not necessarily true, it has nothing to do with response times or refresh rate, the difference between 1440p and 1080p response time is non-existent and same with refresh rates, as both of them support more than 240hz including 360hz which not even competitive games reach consistently to utilize fully regardless of resolution. It is for other reasons, one of them indeed being a resistance to change because they are professionals, why risk changing the way you play if it isn't broken especially if there is a chance you won't like it? Plus, not to mention things like how LANs often just provide 1080p and nobody wants to switch from 1440p at home to 1080p at LAN if they can't bring it with themselves. Plus plus, many pros also use 4:3 low resolutions already so they don't really need 1440p there either.
@neilstack4194
@neilstack4194 5 дней назад
I upgraded a few years back to a 1440p 165hz refresh rate monitor from a 1080p and to my mind was like a night & day difference. Although a VA panel was all I could afford at the time...
@tommyg3031
@tommyg3031 3 дня назад
Basic IPS 170hz 1440p panels are only around $220 or slightly above it on NewEgg these days, during sale events. I'm refusing OLED until the price drops considerably 😂
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 3 дня назад
If you don't know what display technology you're looking at, and you're physically sitting in the display's sweet spot, can you honestly tell the difference between VA and IPS?
@parker4447
@parker4447 3 дня назад
@@tommyg3031 Yeah, these days bro not in 2022 or 2021 when I bought va165hz 1440p it was the cheapest in my region for 280 on sale from 330! IPS was 400 minimum
@Spaceman69420
@Spaceman69420 3 дня назад
@@rangersmith4652 VA has black smearing. I'd rather use a TN monitor over VA for gaming.
@Ghostlynotme445
@Ghostlynotme445 3 дня назад
@@tommyg3031shoot I see on Amazon 1440p 240hz monitor around $169
@pandalife_gaming
@pandalife_gaming 2 дня назад
That's...not the same thing. You can't say X is faster than Y and then give X an unfair advantage when you could apply the same thing to Y. It's like turning on frame gen with a 4070 and not on a 7900xt and saying the 4070 is the faster graphics card. That's not true.
@RawFish2DChannel
@RawFish2DChannel День назад
this implies I have 1440p monitor and GPU capable of 1440p which is not the case for a lot of people
@iamspencerx
@iamspencerx 3 дня назад
It's funny to me because the only time I tried this was with cyberpunk and the upscaled result was terrible so I just assumed it's the case in every game.
@Mcnooblet
@Mcnooblet 3 дня назад
I think there was a point early on I didn't like the upscaling in Cyberpunk. They changed it in some version and it looked better. Than after enough time and trial and error, I settled on a 3.7.x version of DLSS that I place into every game and looks great to me all around, so no it's not every game and you can manually put in the version you like best. But yeah, there was a time when I remember Cyberpunk looking FSR clay like on an older version and I couldn't understand how anyone would ever say it looks better than native. I always been on a 50-55 inch 4k OLED though so if theres an imperfection, you'll see it.
@g2fiora
@g2fiora 3 дня назад
apparently DLSS Q at 1440p and above looks better than native in Cyberpunk so I'm not sure what you're about, even FSR is decent enough to make the +40% FPS jump worth it
@dshearwf
@dshearwf 3 дня назад
@@g2fiora yea but it wasn't the case when it launched. this was definitely upgraded later in the lifecycle, because I remember the same thing and it's still the case for tons of games. DLSS isn't something that magically works, it's the actual gamedev and nividia driver updates making it work. And yes, today, DLSS on cyberpunk looks incredibly good, but earlier on it was a mess of washed pixels and a very blurry look.
@iamspencerx
@iamspencerx 3 дня назад
@@g2fiora Then you might wanna get glasses and hearing aid because the quality is trash to anyone who can see well, and it's also said 2 minutes into the video if you could hear well.
@GewelReal
@GewelReal 3 дня назад
​@@g2fioraWhen DLSS released in CP77 it was AWFUL
@Tifeejanz
@Tifeejanz 3 дня назад
I mean TAA native on the latest games is much worst than any resolution with DLSS
@NulJern
@NulJern 3 дня назад
haha, so dlss is better than native? lol
@mgrb3
@mgrb3 3 дня назад
​@@NulJern yes in some games😂 Go see the comparisons
@NulJern
@NulJern 2 дня назад
@@mgrb3 who asked you? He wrote the lastet games and "much worse".. As if you can actually see the difference on a youtube video. Ya'll delusional.
@Tifeejanz
@Tifeejanz 2 дня назад
@@NulJern well I play with a RTX card so I can actually see the difference
@NulJern
@NulJern 2 дня назад
@@Tifeejanz huh? of course you do? wow the stupidity
@Osprey850
@Osprey850 2 дня назад
I can afford a 1440p monitor, but can't really justify it when my 1080p monitor works fine. Also, I'd rather upgrade all of the way to a 4K monitor, but want a faster GPU for that. So, I'm making do with my perfectly fine 1080p monitor until I can justify buying a new GPU and a 4K monitor at the same time.
@maxcornejo20
@maxcornejo20 День назад
I have a 1080p 240hz monitor because for 1440p it cost about one testicle.
@Nateyo
@Nateyo 3 дня назад
I mostly stayed on 1080p because I couldn't afford a 1440p high refresh rate monitor for esports games. I found a great deal on a 1080p 280hz monitor but I really want to try 1440p one day especially because I have a 5600X with a 6800XT and that gpu is getting very under-utilized.
@MarcinTrybus
@MarcinTrybus 3 дня назад
The 6800 XT is underutilized mainly due to your CPU. ;)
@levijosephcreates
@levijosephcreates 3 дня назад
A 1440p IPS would be a sweet upgrade with that setup.
@icedwatr
@icedwatr 3 дня назад
@@MarcinTrybushe already made that point in his comment lol
@intermilan9731
@intermilan9731 3 дня назад
In your case, you should get a bigger monitor. But many people don't get bigger monitor because they will need high end GPU like yours to support gaming in those. And such GPUs cost near 900-1000 dollars in many countries.
@Nateyo
@Nateyo 2 дня назад
@@intermilan9731 well yeah I need 1440p. 4k high refresh rate is too expensive.
@Dexiefy
@Dexiefy 3 дня назад
Running native is better for most. Not every game supports dlss and sometimes when it does it does poor job at it or as you have given example with cyberpunk, would provide you with much worse experience than 1080p native. Also, what is the point of video like this anyway? Giving people bad advice to go and buy higher ress monitor and rely on dlss to get same performance? In what world is that a good advice? It sounds like nvidia representative talking... "forget native boys, just use DLSS" People will move to 1440p 16:9 when RTX x050/x060 or Radeon RX x600/x600 XT will be able to support it 60-80fps on native 1440p, until then majority will stick to the monitors they've been using for quite a while and giving them advice of getting 1440p display while waiting for new GPUS is horrible advice. Reasons being a) next gen GPU's might be even bigger pile of shit than this generation was from both parties. b) you can just buy display alongside your GPU, which would be a better solution cause you know better what the overall cost will be and on top of that, every display technology over time gets better and cheaper. So yeah, horrible advice, though to be fair, i think this is the first time you gave bad advice.
@dushypal469
@dushypal469 День назад
In our country 1440p hardware is super costly. It's not like a wagebill of a day. More like the salary of 10% of the richest in our country.
@overproof1460
@overproof1460 3 дня назад
I recently switched to a 32" 1440p monitor just to see if the pixel density would bother me. I don't have a card that can run 4k natively so I decided to try this out. Surprisingly, I haven't missed the sharpness of a 27" 1440p as much as I thought I would. I do notice more lag when using upscaling, but I eventually adjusted to it. Now I'm wondering if I should just get a 4k OLED monitor now, since upscaling seems to be getting better rapidly.
@nowaynowaynottoday
@nowaynowaynottoday 3 дня назад
Honestly, I moved from 1080 to 1440 and didn't notice much difference. Then I moved to 4K and still didn't notice much difference. I render at native as well since I have a monster gpu. 1080p is perfectly fine if your monitor is 27" or smaller. Once you get to 32" I think higher resolutions make a lot more sense.
@VanyaYlianov
@VanyaYlianov 3 дня назад
wat, i can see pixels on my 1080 21 monitor, but on 1440 27 i don see it(compare to previous). recommend 27 1080 in insanity -_-
@CrazO9111
@CrazO9111 3 дня назад
Same, had a 1440p and then i Came back to 1080p. More fps and same quality.
@roki977
@roki977 3 дня назад
same
@parker4447
@parker4447 3 дня назад
lol bro you can't see a difference between 1440p and 4K?(which is more than 2x pixels from 3.7m to 8.3m) then I suggest you go to see an eye doctor! There is incredible difference on the same monitor size like 27 or 28 inch if you would look side by side. 1080p is only somewhat good on 24 inch or smaller which is 92 ppi and 1440p 27 inch has 109 ppi and 4K 27 is 163 or 157 on 28 inch.
@VanyaYlianov
@VanyaYlianov 3 дня назад
@@parker4447 between 1440 and 1080 also giant diff in pixels(2m vs near 3.7) and u need 2 be blind to to not see it on monitor, but i cant see diff on tv(3m far) or on smartphone(too lil) yet on monitors for me difference is so clear
@alonsogabriel9336
@alonsogabriel9336 3 дня назад
My problem with this is not every game has dlss support And not all gamers have Nvidia cards And based on recent FSR updates, I think amd upscaling is closer to 1080p than it is to 1440p upscaled
@ItsJustVV
@ItsJustVV 2 дня назад
WRONG, I'm using DLSS Q at 1080p and I have a great image quality (better than native) while having better perf or if I limit my fps better efficiency than at 1440p. Also my GPU lasts longer before needing to upgrade at 1080p. 1080p in 2024 in nothing like 1080p 10 years ago or even 5 years ago, it's much better because of all the new tech in hardware and software too.
@louvenio7413
@louvenio7413 2 дня назад
the technical idea of the video is good, thing is ppl with 1080p monitors are already at their max budget or even some old gamers invested into 1080p 120-144 hz years ago when it was a thing, imo wait until 4k 4070 ti super pcs drop to 500$ and get a new rig entirely or spend the big stonks now , going to 1440p on low spec pcs is a very bad idea and can destroy their gaming experience
@Baralis
@Baralis 3 дня назад
With my old eyes nothing is sharp anymore and 1080p and 1440p look about the same. 🤷‍♂
@Anjula321
@Anjula321 3 дня назад
could you compare 1080p DLAA vs 1440p DLSS Quality? comparing with TAA doesn't feel fair when it comes to image quality
@electricant55
@electricant55 3 дня назад
he literally did?
@TabalugaDragon
@TabalugaDragon 3 дня назад
yep, TAA image quality sucks, it's like he specifically wanted 1080p to look worse by enabling TAA
@videogaminbiker889
@videogaminbiker889 2 дня назад
@@TabalugaDragon yep comparisons around upscaling are pointless if you call TAA native. TAA is so far from native quality it's insane people think otherwise, even at 4k the difference is noticeable, quite sad really.
@Rspsand07
@Rspsand07 2 дня назад
You need a Nvidia GPU for DLSS, but if you have an Nvidia GPU, you don't hage enough VRAM for 1440p.
@SinisterPuppy
@SinisterPuppy 3 дня назад
I'm still at 1080p since monitors take forever to die and they suit me fine. I'm mostly a couch gamer these days too and from 6-8FT (2meters) away resolution changes don't mean much. I do want to experience HDR at some point; so will most likely upgrade soonish. One thing I want to point out is instead of TAA for native 1080p, why not try DLAA? I know at least in horizon; only game I played recently with it in there; it make it look amazing. Thanks for running the numbers!
@TabalugaDragon
@TabalugaDragon 2 дня назад
or why not keep AA off completely? IMO looks so much better and sharper than most antialiasing techniques.
@tomthomas3499
@tomthomas3499 3 дня назад
Does that increase vram usage? since 8gb is what most people have and already on the limit for some games 🤔
@BenyaminLorit
@BenyaminLorit 3 дня назад
I just (reluctantly) jumped to 1440p a couple of months ago and so far, my VRAM usage across AAA games on the RX 6600 8GB have been largely similar. I think that as long as you keep the same settings as you did in 1080p, VRAM won't be that much of an issue, if at all.
@jdudbdjxb7687
@jdudbdjxb7687 3 дня назад
Upgraded to 1440p very recently, I'm using a 3060 ti FE and haven't noticed a huge jump. It mostly the same
@Ruben98RaptoR
@Ruben98RaptoR 2 дня назад
Upscaling actually reduces VRAM usage a bit since you're rendering from 960p instead of 1080p. Frame Generation and RTX will increase it tho.
@itsjohnny6091
@itsjohnny6091 2 дня назад
@@BenyaminLorit yeah I saw some benchmarks on BF2042 on a 4060 ti 8gb and in 1080p it used 5.5gb and on 1440p 6gb, quite a small difference. Especially if you consider that DLSS reduces preformance the difference is very small.
@HunterTracks
@HunterTracks 2 дня назад
​@@Ruben98RaptoRUpscaling still requires VRAM to run, and the difference between 960p and 1080p is small enough that I suspect it would be fully covered by DLSS. It shouldn't be an issue in most games, but it can push your game into the struggle zone if you were previously skirting just below it.
@magnusFTS
@magnusFTS 3 дня назад
Do we feel the same way about this with FSR on AMD Gpu's?
@pasha715
@pasha715 3 дня назад
tbh for me it all depends on size of display, and fsr implementation, also res, i am using 1080p but in dying light 2 i didnt notice much of diff, ofc i could see a bit of shimering at distance, but that is to be expected, i have smaller display so thats why i guess, if u have huge tv and are close, even on dlss u can notice diff
@QubaLG-n1o
@QubaLG-n1o 3 дня назад
no
@davidmacfarlane4761
@davidmacfarlane4761 3 дня назад
I was wondering Daniel Owen's thoughts on FSR on 1440p vs 1080p. he primarily focused on 1080p being dumb in the context of nVidia DLSS upscaling to 1440p
@tomorpedreiro3032
@tomorpedreiro3032 2 дня назад
viable only in 4k (jumping from 1440p) then fsr quality and boom, better image, same or better fps.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 2 дня назад
You can watch Hardware Unboxed's latest video on FSR 3.1. He "performance normalized" the results so the results are a bit skewed from a pure image quality perspective. My own conclusion is: FSR Quality at 1440p looks better than 1080p if the game's native TAA is bad (which it is in a lot of games. I often chose MSAA if it's available), and if the native TAA is good it's a toss between being sensitive to jaggies or being sensitive to shimmering. If jaggies bothers you more than shimmering go for FSR Quality at 1440p, if shimmering annoys you, stay on 1080p Native.
@nathanlamaire
@nathanlamaire 2 дня назад
Me who still game at 540p: 👁👄👁
@razman1982a
@razman1982a 2 часа назад
loving your last few vids, you have done comparisons i've wanted to see for a while, being a 3060 owner. Your recent video on the 4060 vs the 3060 was just what i wanted to see and for some strange reason other youtubers seem to be avoiding it. Thanks Daniel
@BuddyBoy1st
@BuddyBoy1st 3 дня назад
Went from 1080p to 1440p wasnt a big difference to me a bit more pixels and sharp, from 1440p to 4k is where it shines and I noticed the difference in clarity and my wallet. Had to get a 4090 paired with it. Otherwise 4k is for enthusiast and for performance 1440p is currenty the way to go. Thats my 2 cents.
@soraceant
@soraceant 3 дня назад
1080p to 1440p was day and night for me. 4k is even bigger but unless the screen size is big and the fps is over 60 then it's not worth it.
@BuddyBoy1st
@BuddyBoy1st 2 дня назад
@soraceant for 1440p 27 inch is good at 4k 32 or above inches is where it's appropriate for a monitor. I play with 240 hz on 4k the 4090 doesn't always reach that unless u mess with the settings but the graphic fidelity is a sight to behold for sure. Can't go back to 1440p myself since it's a bit blurry, but will do so depending on the performance on 4k.
@melexxa
@melexxa 2 дня назад
​@@soraceant17% more ppi = day and night or you had a 32 inch 1080p 😂
@MK-hi4jy
@MK-hi4jy 3 дня назад
1080p isn't dumb for me, because I'm using an old 1080p monitor and don't wanna spend money to upgrade.
@i_termx_i3854
@i_termx_i3854 2 дня назад
There are plenty of good 1440p monitors that are within budget to the majority of consumers. It's not ideal to hold on very old 1080p monitors, as technology advances. You can end up bottlenecking your performance based on the outdated tech, and the low Hz rate. It's also far cheaper to invest in a new monitor when you need to improve your performance in this scenario of using an old monitor. Instead of buying a new/used GPU.
@MK-hi4jy
@MK-hi4jy 2 дня назад
@@i_termx_i3854 sure but I don't need to improve my performance, 1080p ultra looks great and is a good match for my gpu+cpu
@bastschi1507
@bastschi1507 2 дня назад
Why no one is talking about "motion" blur introduced by upscalling ? (or by forced TAA)... I hate it
@Dexion845
@Dexion845 2 дня назад
1440p with DLSSQ or FSRQ is basically the new standard. A 27 inch 1440p monitor with 144Hz refresh is the sweet spot of no compromise gaming right now. These monitors can be had for $250 or less for a decent quality IPS monitor.
@Chasm9
@Chasm9 3 дня назад
I once set Doom Eternal to 4K DLSS performance and forgot I did that (I usually use DLAA). After few days of playing I went to Video settings to tweak motion blur and realized that it was using DLSS Performance. I thought I was using DLAA. And this is on a 65" LG C2. It's crazy good.
@mastroitek
@mastroitek 3 дня назад
similarly I was testing an arc a580 on Hogwarts legacy and noticed that 4k with XeSS performance looked overall better than native 1080p and 1440p (XeSS balanced) for about the same performance (on a 32" monitor). Can't say the same for FSR though...
@CrazO9111
@CrazO9111 3 дня назад
I had both and in can say, i dont see any difference. Thats why im back to 1080p. More fps is always good.
@designiy
@designiy 2 дня назад
I've heard this monitor push from you a few times and it does make sense assuming there's only one monitor to replace. I'm running 3x 1080p 60hz monitors and sometimes a 4th display (a TV, native 4k but at 1080p to make it also 60hz). Yeah it sucks not having Gsync or freesync, and V-sync in games kills the FPS potential often forcing a 60fps cap BUT the monetary and performance cost of upgrading resolution on 3-4 displays stil isn't worth it. I'm not willing to give up my multi displays. Playing with friends is so much more fun when I can watch all their streams on the right, still have discord and steam open on the left, a play fullscreen in the center. Brother got an ultrawide and complains all the time about not being able to see our streams and not having game QoL support for ultra wide like HUD scaling. IMO the tech isn't there yet. Compatibility between different refresh rates and concurrent variable/non-variable displays is improving but not reliable imo.
@Rullino32
@Rullino32 День назад
@@designiy True, but you can upgrade at least one monitor if you want to, upgrading all of them at once won't make much sense unless you're have money for it or need it for other reasons.
@Overlord1241
@Overlord1241 3 дня назад
Thanks for this video, I was actually thinking about this myself
@SoldierBoy3064
@SoldierBoy3064 3 дня назад
it looks exactly the same... maybe it's RU-vid compression and bad bit rate 👀
@SweetFlexZ
@SweetFlexZ 3 дня назад
It doesn't look exactly the same... you're just blind or watching this on a 1" display.
@VanyaYlianov
@VanyaYlianov 3 дня назад
its always youtube compression. 1440 far better. have both resolutions on setup and can compare by eyes)
@pasha715
@pasha715 3 дня назад
first game looks better on stairs, u will see that will dlss , stairs looks better, more stable but he might use taa, game prob have dlaa, with that it might be better native by a margin
@kamil950
@kamil950 3 дня назад
Why 1080p DLAA only in Alan Wake 2 and not in other games? I suppose that DLAA is usually better than TAA.
@PeterPauls
@PeterPauls 3 дня назад
It is an option in many games now and new releases gives you the option to use DLAA or TAA. But in my experience DLAA is a 10 fps reduction in performance so if you want to play in native and your card can run the game native TAA 60 fps, you will struggle with native DLAA. But the option is there in like, Cybepunk 2077, Starfield, Witcher 3 Next Gen if I remember well, Horizeon Forbidden West, Ghost of Tsushima etc., older not supported titles will not updated but new titles will get it as they get FSR Native as well.
@armagansadikoglu
@armagansadikoglu 3 дня назад
Upgraded from 1080p to 4k. Before that I thought game graphics weren't that good (lol) but after seeing 4k can't go back. For graphics performance features wise 1440p seems sweetspot.
@Gamecapturevideo
@Gamecapturevideo 3 дня назад
Love the interruption, absolutely adorable! 🤣
@johnhughes9766
@johnhughes9766 3 дня назад
Or you can use dldsr to run 1440p on ur 1080p monitor then enable dlss for the 960p, and becuase 1080p is above 960p u actualy have enough pixels to display that image, so in short u don’t need a 1440p monitor to do what ur saying
@Alex-ok4ux
@Alex-ok4ux 3 дня назад
just want to correct you on one point. DLSS takes 960p internal resolution and outputs a 1440p image that means it will still get downsampled to 1080p by DLSDSR and that fact that the game runs on 960p doesn't matter at this point. nevertheless you will get a better image quality than native 1080p and a slight performance hit due to DLDSR.
@ghost085
@ghost085 3 дня назад
DLDSR looks kinda weird, both blurry and oversharpened at the same time, even with the slider set to 100% like it should be. Custom Resolutions from the Nvidia Control Panel look way better, it's what I used to use all the time, but they aren't compatible with GSync/Freesync unfortunately. But yeah, downsampling does wonders to image quality.
@johnhughes9766
@johnhughes9766 3 дня назад
@@Alex-ok4ux I think ur right but it’s still better than native
@johnhughes9766
@johnhughes9766 3 дня назад
@@ghost085 there’s a smoothness slider on the nvidia control panel for dsr and dldsr it’s set to 33 percent by default, drop that to 0 to remove the over sharpened blur u speak of
@ghost085
@ghost085 3 дня назад
@@johnhughes9766Regular DSR requires 33% or less for a nice image without pixel crawling (4x DSR with 0% slider looks great). But DLDSR works the other way around, you have to set it to 100% to get the default image, and lowering the setting makes the image oversharpened.
@bavari99
@bavari99 3 дня назад
What about using DLDSR for 1080p monitors to upscale the resolution to 1440p?
@_Quint_
@_Quint_ 2 дня назад
Absolutely, but it uses much more resources from your GPU than Daniel's recommendation does.
@francistein8409
@francistein8409 2 дня назад
Daniel, monitors are hella expensive 💀
@erinadams858
@erinadams858 3 дня назад
Only reason I shot for1080p gaming is because I really don’t have that much time to game. Would I like a higher end rig with nice peripherals, yes but I spent 99$ on a 165hz 1080p monitor and that's way more within what I can justify. 1440p is nice and I would love to be there but can’t justify spending more than 800 for a setup when I realistically only play like 8ish hours a week.
@krish7267
@krish7267 3 дня назад
So it's for Nvidia Gpu owners only Suggetion..🙂
@Mcnooblet
@Mcnooblet 3 дня назад
FSR works for everyone. You don't need a suggestion to use it beyond turning it on and seeing with your own eyes. Is it just because he said "Nvidia" that it grinds some peoples gears?
@raresmacovei8382
@raresmacovei8382 3 дня назад
Modded FSR2/3 and XeSS looks great
@batpauer641
@batpauer641 3 дня назад
Same with AMD (7800xt). I am doing 2k to 4k with FSR with easy in triple A games when needed. Most of the time native 3200 × 1800 is a great balance between quality and fps tho
@Argoon1981
@Argoon1981 3 дня назад
1080p with upscalling IMO is not good, even on dlss. 1440p with upscalling at quality imo is 1080p with a sharpening effect, 4K with upscalling quality is imo 1440p with sharpening effect as well. I preffer the real native resto with a sharpening post process, obviously performance suffers.
@blondegirl7240
@blondegirl7240 2 дня назад
I personally tested native 1440p and 4p vs DLSS or FSR quality, I didnt see any difference… Have you ever tested it?
@Rullino32
@Rullino32 День назад
You can say whatever you want about 1440p being a good resolution for you and/or anyone with a graphics card powerful enough for it, but calling 1080p dumb doesn't make any sense, it's the most used resolution because it's cost-effective and offers enough for the average users, which is why they're cheaper and found in many laptops and All-in-one PCs,making fun of users who are still using 1080p won't convince people to upgrade their monitor, especially if the hardware needed costs twice, it's a matter of preference, if you want to upgrade it's great, but don't hate on others who aren't on 1440p just because you've got a "premium" level because of a monitor with a higher resolution, correct me if I'm wrong.
@faildrian42
@faildrian42 2 дня назад
Great video, thanks, but ... Will the image be better on my 1080p monitor while using Virtual Super Resolution to get to 1440p + FSR/DLSS quality than the native 1080p? It seems to me it is, but I can't really say xdd
@intermilan9731
@intermilan9731 3 дня назад
Not everyone is wealthy bro.
@suparibhau
@suparibhau 2 дня назад
So only the rich can afford to spend $250 on a monitor?
@intermilan9731
@intermilan9731 2 дня назад
@@suparibhau Only to watch movies and TV? No. But for gaming, yes. A bigger monitor comes with the demand of pricier components to support it. In many places, such GPU prices exceed 600 dollars to highest ends costing more than 2500. So you are much better off with 1080p and even 900p. According to steam, many people still use 768p as well.
@Lil.Lon3Ly
@Lil.Lon3Ly 2 дня назад
Cooler Master has like the cheapest 2k monitor on the market for like $100, how is that expensive
@suparibhau
@suparibhau 2 дня назад
​@@intermilan9731 You don't need to play the most latest unoptimized AAA trash. There are thousands of 4+ year old games that are amazing and can easily be run by a 3060ti at 1440p 60+ fps. That's a $200 dollar gpu in the used market
@Trisstan20
@Trisstan20 2 дня назад
not everyone should be stuck in the past on ourdated hardware, that cost same as new much better experience
@Salty_Nutella
@Salty_Nutella 3 дня назад
It's once again the "upgrade only when shit breaks" or "first time" question. Right now, I have a perfectly fine 1080p high refresh monitor I bought 7 years ago. If I were buying first time, I'd go 1440p high refresh. But until my 1080p monitor breaks, I'm not upgrading.
@deviouslaw
@deviouslaw 3 дня назад
Do you apply the same logic to GPU/CPU?
@AstroBot-bc0213
@AstroBot-bc0213 2 дня назад
@@deviouslawwhy would he? those 2 things are different a cpu and gpu would actively perform worse as time goes on and eventually unusable which is more than enough reason to upgrade
@deviouslaw
@deviouslaw 2 дня назад
@@AstroBot-bc0213 that's not actually true. CPUs and GPUs don't perform worse as time goes on, they have basically the same performance. Standards increase, but that is true also for monitors...
@AstroBot-bc0213
@AstroBot-bc0213 2 дня назад
@@deviouslaw no it isn’t monitor standards may increase but that’s solely up to the user to decide whether or not they care for that standard just because YOU believe 1080p isn’t a standard dosnt mean everyone else does too
@deviouslaw
@deviouslaw 2 дня назад
@@AstroBot-bc0213 I don't mean that you have to adhere to my standards or anyone's, but the point is they get outdated just like everything else. It doesn't make any sense at all to throw high end GPUs at 1080p anymore, it's a waste. But, that's just my opinion. If you want a significantly worse experience then 1080p is fine.
@PlatinumArms
@PlatinumArms 2 дня назад
Can you do this same video for 1440 Native vs 4K Balanced with DLSS and FSR both.
@QubaLG-n1o
@QubaLG-n1o 3 дня назад
DLSS in general seems to look better than native TAA even at 1080p. Devs just don't bother with implementing a good TAA solution and without any form of TAA, modern games are a shimmery mess.
@jimmyjiang3413
@jimmyjiang3413 2 дня назад
Remember: pro esports players still rock 1080p monitor for the sake of highest FPS as much as possible, and do so going crazy high refresh rates. Also take account running out of vram issues
@Akwa47
@Akwa47 2 дня назад
YOU ARE RUNNING 1080p ON TAA !! The dumbest and blurriest option for anti aliasing
@TabalugaDragon
@TabalugaDragon 2 дня назад
I think it was intentional. How could he not see it looks crappy and nothing like native 1080p?
@Darth-TBAG
@Darth-TBAG 21 час назад
I think there is also a need to mention those who are using a 24 inch display vs a 27 inch, you wont really see the tangible benefits of 1440 on a 24 inch display vs a 27 inch
@michaelthompson9798
@michaelthompson9798 5 дней назад
I’ve been on 1440p for over a decade and about 15months ago I upgraded my main monitor to a 4K IPS HDR FALD 160hz monitor for gaming and productivity needs. I still also use a 3440x1440p ultrawide 120hz monitor for some game titles which I prefer the look of in an ultrawide aspect 🥰💪😇🤤
@de4ler
@de4ler 3 дня назад
What if the games dont have DLSS genius?
@SweetFlexZ
@SweetFlexZ 3 дня назад
Just run it native, if it doesn't have DLSS is probably a very old game so any GPU could run that specific game at 1440P Native, genius ;)
@troy1993
@troy1993 3 дня назад
Then it's probably not a very demanding game in the first place since most recent games all have it. Any game then doesn't have it is either old and easier to run, or is new but isn't demanding like a pixel platformer.
@de4ler
@de4ler 3 дня назад
@@SweetFlexZ helldivers 2 is demanding and dont have DLSS .............also Homeworld 3 what is rly demanding ....... so now what genius
@de4ler
@de4ler 3 дня назад
@@troy1993 helldivers 2 homeworold 3 ???????
@SweetFlexZ
@SweetFlexZ 3 дня назад
@@de4ler Demanding? No, just lower your settings, what gpu do you have? I have a 4070 Ti super and no problem lol
@shockcrew5275
@shockcrew5275 2 дня назад
I currently run three systems, which I'm constantly comparing in various scenarios. A 1080p 60hz monitor + Xeon E3-1265L v3 + RTX2060S, a 1080p 75hz monitor + R5-5600 + RTX4070 and a 2160p 60hz TV + Xeon E3-1285L v3 + RTX4060. For the second system, the jump in refresh rate is noticeable, but as you go up in image-switching frequency you get diminishing returns. I tested 120hz and 144hz and didn't perceive the differences. This works perfectly fine for a desk scenario. I tested DLSS, but the CPUs would bottleneck the systems. DLAA looks the best and it's the most balanced scenario.
@arijit2k11
@arijit2k11 3 дня назад
Good content. I have AMD RX 6750 XT GPU so completely agree that FSR is worse than DLSS for sure. Even then my previous display was 1080p 60Hz. Upgraded to 1440P 170 Hz, and that alone was substantial improvement to the gameplay experience.
@imglidinhere
@imglidinhere 3 дня назад
That's fine and dandy of a position to hold but when I have to spend $300 per monitor on each 1440p display, that adds up.
@realnzall
@realnzall 3 дня назад
There are 1440p144 monitors for under 200 EUR, including from big name brands like AOC, MSI, Philips, Acer, Samsung and others. I assume the dollar price will be even lower considering that really good HDR monitor for 280 USD costs almost 400 EUR here in Belgium.
@user-eh1vp3ev3c
@user-eh1vp3ev3c 3 дня назад
Why do you have to do that though? I'm starting to wonder about the crowd that "needs" 3 monitors all of the same size and res. I've got a 65" on the wall, the desk is ~3-4ft off the wall, and I've got a couple dirt cheap 1080p monitors for socials and other stuff off to the side of my field of view. My 4k 144hz 65" with miniLED was under $1000, I've seen people pay more for 32-35" monitors, and it does the same thing except the mini leds work better on a larger screen. Doing it this way with a couch on the back wall, I've been able to combine my previous Pc/music workstation with my living room setup.
@kingcaesar3693
@kingcaesar3693 3 дня назад
Why do you need multiple monitors of the same res and size? I use a 22'' 1080p one for side screen stuff and my main is 32" 1440p.
@MrBlackdragon1230
@MrBlackdragon1230 3 дня назад
Not even 2 months ago I picked up a 27 inch 1440p 240hz IPS G sync compatible monitor from Amazon for 199.00 USD. It is a cheap brand but it really is good for that price.
@imglidinhere
@imglidinhere 3 дня назад
@@MrBlackdragon1230 That's fine and all, but I'm not terribly impressed with most monitors that are "good for the price." Most of them have terrible ghosting despite good response times and good color reproduction... Unless you drop $300+ on each display... If I had that kind of cash, I'd buy it, but most of us don't.
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