Gaming, Gamedev, and Mental Health w/ Thor from @PirateSoftware 

The crossover I never expected, but definitely wanted.

Never heard of you until now but you super inspired me! Thanks!

This was honestly my favorite out of at least 50 Dr. K interviews I watched, if not my favorite videos I've watched on RU-vid ever

Thank you for coming on Thor!

The rise of the Goblin King Monk begins

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And he reads you every line on each page

Yeah, and like....effortlessly at that!

Part 2 absolutely should happen. They are so fast back and forth and it's lovely.

Yes, I am really interested as well

Agreed. For me this was the most helpful talk from Dr. K and really spoke to me.

100% this crossover needs to continue. First half of this video was great, the second half was lightning. Thor is a great guy and he always struck me as someone with a lot of natural wisdom and a kind heart, seeing him on here with K was such a blessing.

this was wild

It's the strength and weakness of the analytic mind to cover all the possible details. Such a vibe! And as someone who get's "scolded" for comments just to reply "🥲But....that WAS the shortest I could get", I relate sooo much!

Thor was just trying to create a new RU-vid short with every question.

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i think it has to do with the internal eye vs external eye. Thor is more aware for his standards but he might struggle still with unawareness because as a streamer because most of his material is internal like reading himself instead of others, which makes sense...streamer is a rather lonely task. And the funny thing about unawareness is, you are unaware.

It's really never acceptable for someone to be interrupting that much when they were the one continuing to solicit the responses they were cutting off repetitively.

thank you!

"a wild Dr. K appears"

@@confusedturtle183 😄

Hero❤

as a mobile app user, the timestamps are a savior

or someone very deep in self delusion lol

@@publicalias8172 i mean if his delusions manages to make him feel content in life and even pushes him to help other people like him, then i want some of that delusions for myself lol

​@@publicalias8172Irrelevant exception noted

@@noahblack914 why irrelevant? Close minded action noted.

​@@histnara4995what relevance does the negative comment have on a video filled with positivity

_The what now_ bahahahaha this is perfect I love it

Thor passed too many introspection checks without meaning to

I love it! Well put jajaja

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Master oogway

When you have gone to and lived in the deepest layers of hell (Working at Blizzard during its worst times), you either come out like this, or be completely dead inside. Glad he was able to get out and just blossom into the beacon he is today.

If you consider a person who just starts yapping and couldn't care less about the reality and intricacy of things of subjects at hand and more or less just to push their own ideology disguised as common sense the likes of top streamers then honestly not impressive. You should grow up

idk about all that, but he seems to really have it together.

@@veritas7010man, you’re weird.

Do these steps you mention relate to how the HG guides progress?

@@thederpydude2088 I was just speaking in general terms. A misguided analogy of sorts.

​@@ThaNinjazTube Oh I see you were making a similar analogy as in the stream.

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I see what you did there. 7

That's 90% of therapy, with the last (important) 10% being guidance and knowledge from the therapist on what you might actually be saying when you say something. And you don't even realize it.

A great convo is like a recharge. You walk away feeling charged.

That’s been the majority of therapy sessions for me. Just conversation. Yet I always leave feeling so much better. Great mind or not, veryone should try it.

Yes, that is what therapy mainly is, but it would have sounded less like a conversation “between two great minds” if Thor ever stepped back from needing to come off like he knows everything about the universe just because Dr. K asked “do you like peanut butter?”

Genuinely, literally every single person, can get SOMETHING out of therapy. Some people get more out of it than others, and some people really need it. Let's de-stigmatize mental health!

I’ve adopted it into my own academic and professional life and it feels like a cheat code tbh.

Hmm I'll try that aswell because Im a bit of a slow thinker. I just have to learn to actually think then and not to worry about being to slow instead of thinking about the topic...

Same, you love to see it. Absolutely huge green flag for me if I see someone be comfortable with needing time to digest a moment, and admitting that they don't know/aren't sure of something others would assume they "should" know. I always liked his shorts but this video has really confirmed that Dr K is a real one.

I first saw this with a guy who also had a remarkable level of shit-togetherness at an old job. He was a programmer at the company I was at and did it for funsies and "pocket money" (pocket money being a laughable term with the ton he made) because he was primarily the president or vice president of this microchip company that also made him quite a few pennies. He was also a hardcore bicyclist, the type to do like 55 mile rides and shit. When people would come to him for his expertise on an issue, which was often, they'd ask him a question, and he wouldn't even ask to think, he'd just fucking do it. He'd just sit there, maybe give a "hmm..." or a "let's see..." before looking off to the side or downwards or what have you, though none of those were a given. He'd just sit silently, for I'd say on average 10-15 seconds, sometimes substantially more, sometimes less and not a soul ever disrespected that - the closest would be to add like a quick extra detail right at the beginning of the thought process that would help. I had never seen that before and I found it hugely fascinating. The amount of power that he had and attention from others who focused so intently on his silence to await his response was incredible.

This is one of the best streams of all time, definitely

This is by far deeper than any podcast goes into US who we are and who These two gentlemen are

Yeah, same. Such a profound comment from Thor. Your brain knows all your weaknesses and some of us have brains that choose to routinely exploit that.

Thor actually has a short specifically about this. Damned if i know which one offhand but it's worth going through all his shit really. And yeah he used that phrasing but the words around it were more precise too.

Key is reframing, if you can do that in any way that works you can do anything you want. I've felt that speed reading an entire series of books does that for me (takes a couple days though).

Sometimes you'll hear a similar phrase of "fail small, fail fast". It's mainly about feedback loops. The more feedback you can get, the more chances you get to adjust your trajectory to hit your target. Aim for a closer target instead and work your way up to the distant target.

The problem is not the failure but the all the failures that haunt you and the ego of you. If you can’t change the perception then you can’t follow thors guide you can’t be thor because you’re not thinking like him and processing failure like him

@@Tennosoul Smaller works don't necessarily have the same success criteria and so are more difficult to "fail". Getting better at something through practice helps confidence and so even if you subsequently "fail", it might not sting as much or in the same way. By doing preparatory work your chance of failing also decreases. Even if you are still bad with dealing with the stick of failure, perhaps you can find the carrot of success more enticing. Everything is a process. Everything requires steps. You don't have to be Thor to be a bit better than you are now. The process can help change your thinking, so changing your thinking isn't a prerequisite.

I'm a shoemaker, and we employed the same idea at school. Start with the most basic shoe, note your mistakes and add complexity to the next project. It really bloody works.

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yea this talk was incredible, one of his best interviews imo (maybe im biased because i love when Dr. K starts teaching spirituality lol)

It’s like the observation that “we try to become the people we would’ve felt safe around as a kid”

huge insight

very well said.

I feel like many people with such adverse experiences do that

Most of us based off of the nature of psychology, develop our character to not be what we disliked. It would be idiotic to choose to be what we hate. So naturally, yes but also we all are like that to some capacity. There are outliers but those are different reasons as to why. For ex, being abused makes them an abuser. Most of us refuse to even be near hurting someone through abuse.

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Same here his streams on twitch and youtube are just a compilation of short almost. I highley recommend tunning in!

Same I've been loving thors content. Unfortunately streams are running too late for me to watch live

@@curly7584 yeah I think I tuned in once but I couldn't stay on that much and haven't had the chance catch it another time either

@@KevinSecondWind yeah his streams are in an inconvenient time for me too

Careful, a lot of times the emotionality is still there(genes and conditioning are a b****) but you've just gotten good at rationalizing why your emotions aren't valid. Your emotions are valid friend, no matter how irrational they may be.

I'm like that too and what I realized is that's because I'm autistic. Maybe you would want to look into it as well

yeah, as the guy above said, be careful with suppressing emotions too much, they are gonna still be there and maybe they could explode. The 'Inside Out' animation movie does an excellent job showing it

​@@farfromirrational948 there's a difference between suppressing emotions and processing them. listening to your emotions and hearing what they are trying to tell you, and then logically processing that information, is healthy. immediately rejecting the emotion as illogical without hearing what it's trying to tell you is what is unhealthy.

My BF is like that. We're two sides of a coin and we balance each other out and help with processing info in different ways

That's the great part, his advice was said in mind for developing games. But it's really great advice that you can apply. Anywhere! It's been really inspiring as I'm trying to learn how to make music. It's really good advice for any form of creation

he's the Bob Ross of gamedev, so that works!

Growth mindset. Love it

Yeah I feel like this too. It kinda connects alot of previous stuff that wasn't really grounded into a bigger picture.

YES - no one else is seeing this, it seems, but that was immediately something that set off alarm bells for me. It seems that if Thor can be a teacher and holder of logical, sage wisdom, he feels he will be able to skim past his own trauma and insecurities.

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I think this an interesting point of view. But I don't get the general vibe from him that he feels undeserving. I feel like he prepared to be deserving, for example how his channel blew up and has stayed this way so far. How he acknowledges his efforts, but has enough humility to know its not entirely all his efforts. Cues for me also were like him never wanting to be homeless again, and not going into a self-hating spiral like saying to himself that he deserved to be in such a bad situation. The ferret rescue is also something he wants to do, but doing it in a really sustainable way. Like it seems like he gives himself a lot of space emotionally too. Like if something doesn't work out, he allows himself to feel the negative emotions and work them out and realizing that this emotional processing takes time, as much as needed. When he expressed about prioritizing the wellbeing others when deciding the direction of the chat, he made his interests about what he wanted for himself clear too. Another example was how he knew he wasn't ready to have kids, and stuck by that instead of giving into his now ex-wife's wishes and just had kids. I think for me, seeing this comment of yours, makes sense though. Like knowing the history of what he's went through, thinking about the negative experiences of others who have been through something like he had, you really want to make sure he is truly ok. And that's valid.

He unchecked the box, thank goodness

completely agree, one of his best interviews in my eyes

He might advance to Buddha as Thor...

Spirituality is not a requirement for enlightenment. Some of the most enlightened individuals I've had the pleasure of crossing paths with haven't been spiritual individuals.

This episode was an epiphany for me. It reminded me of answers I had stored somewhere within me, it made me recall a path I stumbled upon in the past, it helped me remember that even in this fast-paced modern world, most of the answers lie within me. I think it made me understand what spirituality means, or actually, remember that I already knew but hadn't connected the dots. Dr. K talks about following the next steps; I think I still need the first steps, but this gives me hope. Maybe I'm seeking external answers again, but I wonder where I can find some guidance. Do you know if Dr. K's courses delve deeper into the subject?

You can watch Thor stream, he streams for hours and talks a ton! Watch any progress in real time

Wishing you the best. I hope you can find a therapist that you like that can work on yourself like Thor said at 2:10:24, "Recalling it, reliving the emotion, reframing it, and then filing it back away again using a more analytical approach rather than just having it up at the forefront of your mind"

I thought I had processed the traumas of my past and moved past them long ago, but in reality I disassociated. It wasn't until I finally went to therapy, and let myself feel those emotions fully with somebody guiding me, that I have been able to process and reframe that trauma. I still have work to do on those traumas, but it does get easier each time.

@@Ezonial thanks for sharing your insight. I am slowly realizing that I may have done the exact same. Thats why it hurts so much right now.

when your job involves dealing with a lot of people who are in a bind like psychology, IT, automotive, nutrition, whatever, it's always a treat meeting somebody who isn't starting from square one and you can talk shop with them, or at least start at intermediate level instead of the very beginning

insightful*

@@ozkifovxvypyvp3574 thank you! my apologies, english isn't my first language, i edited my comment

who would have thought growing up as game programmer's kid makes you level 100 in Dr K enlightenment scale :D

I’ve got a lot of things wrong with my head and one of them is intense amount of anxiety with big spikes of it for no reason sometimes one of the things that does have reasons is every time I get a text or a call my heart rates spikes even if I know it’s about to happen and I have a damn near panic attack every time. Sometimes I’ll get emails saying hurry up before it’s too late for like a sale or something but I read those words and immediately freak the fuck out I find it strange so many little things can affect me so drastically.

I understand this feeling - but I want to add that for me anyway, adding the period sounds formal and completes the sentence in a way that lets me know you mean it. The open ended "okay, I'll talk to you later" feels soft and a bit non committal. I think people just perceive things differently. But the thing I think is worth mentioning regardless of our specific responses, both of us read those two different punctuations as different feelings. is there really a difference ? I'm not sure honestly.

For me, language has rules and punctuation is a part of those rules, I let people perceive my text how they will because managing their response to my text is too difficult.

To be fair, a lot of people view the period at the end of a sentence as a sarcastic thing. It's not just something subconscious, some people do indeed use the period to imply sarcasm or seriousness etc. Sometimes you can tell that their cadence/attitude changes when they use periods. It's subtle stuff, and it's certainly not universal, but sometimes you can get a sense of the way people apply these things when typing. I tend to leave the period out at the end of messages if I want the tone to be light and not mean or harsh or anything like that

@@BUGHUNTER6 it's like a punctuation dialect

You sure that wouldn't make the tech chaps worse instead? XD Also, he rocked it this time!

@@KxNOxUTA he did a stellar job!

might be bad for his sub clinical adhd, I sometimes wonder if I got rid of one of my monitors my adhd symptoms might drastically improve haha

100% this just solidified all of the thoughts I had of him beforehand

Unsolicited youtube advice from someone with a completely different brain. Dont try to be Thor, he's lived his own life to make himself as he is now. You arent him, and how he is is unique to himself. Try to be you, develope your brain to be more of you. Try to be yourself, aim to be the best version of you that you can come up with without being revisionist towards yourself. Its easy to needle out flaws on yourself when lookong for self improvement. BUT Talks is easy, so heres a simple step; Look for something small, and I mean SMALL, that you wish was different, and change it for that day. If you liked the change, try it again the next day. Let yourself get side tracked or forget half way through if that happens, thats normal. If you want a challenge, pick two things the next time. . Have a good one random internet stranger! Hope my words are more than just hot air, good luck in your life!

I got to that point of video now. It’s hilarious 😂

Just wanted to chime in and say that this was my exact experience. I'm not certain where to go from here yet, but my perspective has shifted. Hope you are doing well, and apologies if this is irrelevant or uninteresting.