Gaming PC Crashes at Random - LFC

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This modest gaming PC came in described as 'crashing at random', games would freeze or crash to desktop, etc. It's got some scruffy areas, so I cleared those up, but the real fault wasn't as easy to resolve.
Had memory errors with XMP turned on. RAM kit not on the mobo's QVL, and not faulty. Opted to downclock RAM from 3200 to 3000. Custom RAM timings will also have worked, but I don't really want to do custom timings on a customer PC.
If you want to know more about solving this issue with custom timings, check out this video: • LBC#43 - Setting Up XM...

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@Adamant_IT 3 года назад

Lots of people overthinking the Molex Connector here. A) When I clipped off the rear fan's molex, I trimmed down into the 3-pin connector. The trimmed ends aren't exposed. B) Molex is a bad obsolete connector. Get over it. Molex fans have no software control, no RPM monitoring, and extremely limited speed control. Just because it's functional, doesn't stop it from being crap.

@campkira 3 года назад

this is why i moved to laptop...

@maynardcrow6447 3 года назад

Amen molex is f$cking garbage!

@js0988 3 года назад

Maybe it thinks it's an Apple device?

@kraegor1977 3 года назад

Been working on computers for 30 years. Never had a molex short by touching anything. Just a quick zip/twist tie and hide it. Never clip a wire. Any condensation or dust could link a cut wire since you are now talking like a 1mm connection distance instead of a greater distance. If you do clip it, always glue or tape the end wire, never leave bare.

@williamjones4483 3 года назад

@@kraegor1977 It's not likely, but it could happen. Do you see some of the component leads protruding on the bottom side of the graphics board? I see some that could conceivably short to the Molex connector. Molex connectors are also badly outdated. Used on computers dates back to at least the AT computers. In general electronics much further back than that.

@Byzkit 4 года назад

This video randomly came up and I decided to watch it, because I've been having the same exact problem. Long story short, same end result that my memory isn't supported by my motherboard. I changed the speed to 3000mhz as well and will be ordering compatible memory. And you have yourself a new subscriber as well

@Brodda-Syd 4 года назад

Well Done mate!!

@deminybs 4 года назад

like RAM you have isn't on the QVL from MOBO vendor??? cuz my RAM isn't on my MOBO qvl and has been at 3600 cl 14 since I bought them lol

@Byzkit 4 года назад

@@deminybs I've been having exact same issues as his customer was... Pc froze on me and two red lights started blinking... I checked the mobo manual and it has something to do with the ram, but want 100% sure until now

@machinainc5812 4 года назад

Byzkit usually is. I have a X99 system with the same issue.

@cParman9 4 года назад

that's why when i just built my new PC i made sure that the memory i bought was on that list of support ram.

@12thejsm 3 года назад

Ah Yes, I can see the problem right here. The main game being played here is fortnite.

@frozen_owl1493 3 года назад

I was thinking the same thing

@flamesgamingcommunity8624 3 года назад

I hate rockstar juice

@frozen_owl1493 3 года назад

&Flam3z Clan good for you

@barrybena1336 3 года назад

Dude, it's a 1050ti. What do you expect?

@ShainAndrews 3 года назад

@@barrybena1336 I've played it on far far less. Machine never locks up.

@pivottech8881 4 года назад

Love this channel mainly because there's little to no skipping and you go though it step by step and go through everything and explain it Keep up the vids mate

@adamtajhassam9188 3 года назад

Always something new to learn that we don't always think about :)

@DiagolonRider Год назад

and he actually fixes stuff, not just say," oh its the motherboard " or "its the cpu" blah blar blar blah and replaces it... most people watching are prolly looking for a way to fix their pc without replacing hundreds of dollars worth of components lol. this, hands down is the best actual Tech channel on utube imo

@Adamant_IT 4 года назад

Lots of people asking for my Software Toolkit - it's currently a mess and not really fit for sharing, but I'll get it tidied up and do a brief video on it to explain what I generally use. Keep an eye out!

@andrewpeacock8762 4 года назад

I would say, instead of sharing 'Your toolkit', you would do better creating the video you mentioned Saying what you use and why you use it, but then providing links to the websites where viewers can download directly While at the time of releasing the video, Its likely any package you put together will be up to date, any viewers who find this video later down the line may end up with out of date software, Giving links to the software websites ensures your viewers are getting the most up to date version. For Example, Most Tech folks will have a set of Graphics Drivers in their toolkit, These can at times be updated weekly, and therefore any 'packaged up' sets will get old real quick!

@Rithius3485 4 года назад

I would love to know about your toolkit! I do fix computers on the side and have a small toolkit of my own, but I'm always looking for more, and I like the looks of the things that you have in yours! Can't wait to see that video.😀

@guily6669 4 года назад

I think Hiren's Boot will cover almost everything you need.

@ronguin7062 3 года назад

YES! all us closet geeks want a peek at your batman utility drive!

@rickjohnson2115 3 года назад

@@guily6669 And yet it hasn't been updated in over 2 years.

@jaredmyers4250 4 года назад

RU-vid's algorithm recommended this channel to me several weeks ago and I cannot thank it enough. Love the content!

@kryptoniteee 4 года назад

Fuck you Jared

@reggiedixon2 4 года назад

Great video, I like the methodology rather than the instant armchair diagnoses in the comments 🙄

@u263a3 3 года назад

💯

@AsunderSoft 4 года назад

This appeared in my recommneded videos. I have been in the information technolgy field for 23 years and have worked on countless systems during that time. I enjoyed this video very much. It is always nice to see people who enjoy what they do and sharing it with others. I guess I need to go watch some of your other vidoes!

@weedthepeople2795 3 года назад

ya i watch a lot of tech vids and im confused about temperature ....... when i worked at a shop in the early 2000s nominal temps for cpus were roughly 30 - 40 degrees Celsius......when he said 76C was "a little high" my jaw dropped......i wanna say modern cpus run a little hotter now? from watching computer vids when the temps are shown, theyre all running pretty hot to me

@pckiddy 4 года назад

Could you some day do a video about your software toolkit ?

@fragalot 4 года назад

He did a video a three years ago where he does a routine service on a well-used (older) PC and attempts to tune up an old PC by using diagnostic software on his USB stick as well as going though windows settings to clean up the bit-rot. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VTMnTiEoosQ.html

@אבירםאוחנה-ו2ל 2 года назад

I'm also a computer technician, a computer enthusiast, and you look like someone I would hand over my computer to! Keep up with the videos! Great content !!

@gontzi7 4 года назад

Could you leave your usb drive with the testing software in like a zip folder or something? Looks kinda useful

@ZeroLifts277 4 года назад

yes u can

@HuntersMoon78 4 года назад

Google the software and download them.

@RWL2012 4 года назад

@@ZeroLifts277 not what was meant

@ZeroLifts277 4 года назад

@@RWL2012 sorry my bad

@Straiferdt01 4 года назад

@Green Eyed Bali Bule gimme link

@Those_Weirdos 4 года назад

“Nobody uses Molex for fans”->plans to destroy customer property->discovers customer uses Molex for fans.

@Straiferdt01 4 года назад

If he was a professional he would've called the owner to inform him

@SuperLuigiGuy64 4 года назад

@@Straiferdt01 But he is a professional. Everyone makes mistakes.

@steve64464 4 года назад

Thinking im gonna go chop off all my molex fans now to see if that improves performance.

@r100curtaincall 4 года назад

Yeah in no world should have ever cut that off. There are plenty of other solutions.

@steve64464 4 года назад

@@r100curtaincall I prob would of put some heatshink around it and secured it with small zip tie or something, Permanent damage/modifications to components are not good. plus if the cut is not entirely clean you may have a small bit of exposed copper at the end of the cable which could be pushed up against case body or components that are pointy in shape.

@saintuk70 4 года назад

50k subs by tomorrow or early in the week. Well deserved.

@lnteI 3 года назад

Great video, i would strongly suggest to always check QVL for new builds, it can prevent a lot of issues, especially with XMP enabled.

@FullMetal-Tech 4 года назад

Actually with today's CPU's having the memory controller built in, the FSB runs at the same rate as the ram. So anything that is above the CPU's FSB ( 2933mhz ) is essentially overclocking the CPU. So to work around that you need to increase the SoC voltage, but not by much at all! OR! manually set the ram speed to match the FSB of the CPU.

@RJARRRPCGP 2 года назад

For Ryzen, that would mean an Fclk and Uclk of 1466.5, which I'm not sure that AMD supports, while AMD does support 1500, which if sync, the RAM will be at 3000.

@zx8401ztv 4 года назад

From the start i mistrust memory, i would have put one strip in only (if it allows that) and do a test, then swap for the other one. The usb double up was unbelievable, what a stupid mistake. I know nothing about modern super wizzbang gaming machines, i'm an old git :-D

@thiscouldntblowmore 4 года назад

On my personal experience, XMP at 1,35v seldom is stable, at 1,4v they work fine. Ive had and have Ryzen computers with 1600, 2200G, 1700, 2600, 3600, 3900 and 3950 CPU's doesnt matter if its B350, B450, X370 or X570 MB and ive had bunch of them from ASUS, MSI and ASRock.

@SmarkDepper 4 года назад

I was searching videos to treat my dead HDD... now I learned something that might prevent me to spend hours of troubleshoot in my upcoming upgrade. Man, you are awesome!

@johnDingoFoxVelocity 4 года назад

Ok I gots lots of questions. 1. Most DDR 4 ram is labeled 1.35v so isn’t under voltaging your ram going to damage the ram and slow down performance 2. Windows 10 update 2004 actually causes certain main boards to crash with ryzen and not function at all this includes gigabyte and asrock boards as well. 3. After updating did you try to run a program to verify if the problem truly went away because with the new 2004 windows update the update causes gpu failures parked platters on peoples hard drives and even worse damages ram as well.

@gweedo2009 4 года назад

doing a bios update. will probably fix it cause they update the qualified memory list

@brad68 3 года назад

It was already on the latest bios.

@snarkymcsnarkles3493 4 года назад

MDSCHED works perfectly fine as a windows memory tool

@MattBruzdziak 4 года назад

My new favorite tech channel. The humor and brutal honesty is great

@qzorn4440 4 года назад

hey kid and dad suff

@randomxaos 4 года назад

this is hilarious. My 2nd time here and I subscribed

@Whatthetrash 3 года назад

I'm about to build my first PC so I've been looking up videos and this one was recommended to me. Thanks so much for making a clear, unrushed breakdown of what you're doing! So many channels focus more on snappy editing than clarity of what they're doing and thoroughness of information. Thanks so much!

@jamescollins6085 2 года назад

These videos remind me of the old RU-vid, I really like that.

@klaasklapsigaar1081 4 года назад

10:45 The way you unscrewed that fan while speaking so calmly has me in stitches. Meant no offense, I'm just a simple man. I love your videos!

@nukeum9535 3 года назад

in addition, my ocd on lobbing off the molex fan connector. we dont see covering the now semi-exposed wires that are just shoved in between the fan and case. better off tapeing or zip tie the molex up out of site.

@spacecy 3 года назад

lmao :D

@jackwhitman9278 4 года назад

When I built my PC, XMP was causing game crashes but no bluescreens. I ran a USB boot memtest and found tons of errors with XMP switched on, it ended up being that I was using slots 1 and 3 instead of slots 2 and 4. I thought that the memory sticks just had to be offset for dual-channel, but it turns out that the slots can matter too!

@marko2262 4 года назад

Same problems :)) but i put IT in 1 and 3 slots , in 2 and 4 IT crashes

@Arek_R. 4 года назад

Can you make a video on your toolkit pendrive, what you have, what each program is for and what you use it for, some examples which one might come in handy etc. I want to make one myself as I often find myself download programs too often and would be nice to have it all ready on a pendrive especially that I have 256GB EDC.

@keithwhisman 3 года назад

I’m surprised you didn’t reseat the memory modules and graphics card. Reseating is something I always start with. I must admit I was expecting a clogged up cooling system. I had a customer tell me his computer wouldn’t run for more than a couple minutes. I took the panel off and found the intake fans fully blocked by dirt and hair. The CPU HSF was clogged with dirt and hair as well. A little cleaning had his computer up and running. Had to give him a class on cleaning his computer.

@teardowntherapy9666 4 года назад

I am grateful for your videos, keep up the good work :) I know it is not easy to record and especially edit a video.

@neilvincent5571 3 года назад

Thanks to RU-vid and thanks Adam, I have the same issue, same cpu and motherboard. Most of the time system is ok but randomly shuts down. I thought it was because I upgraded CPU and mobo without reinstalling Windows 10. Your manner of explanation is so thorough and a pleasure to listen to. You obviously enjoy what you are doing . Thanks Adam and well done.

@DJ-Daz 4 года назад

Wow, it's nice to see someone else as professional as I was back in the 90's and 00's. All that tidying never solved a problem for me, but tidy cables and systems DON'T cause them either. I also like how you said you won't run memtest, then you change your mind. That's how fluid diagnostics has to be. If you aren't fluid then you've already made up your mind before you start working and you're almost certainly wrong. I worked with quite a few guys who thought like that, and their repairs always bounced back. I repaired thousands of PC's and only ever had 4-5 come back with the same fault. I had lots of people come back and ask for me though.

@calvitocalvon1711 4 года назад

Thousands? One a day for at least 6 years straight?

@DJ-Daz 4 года назад

@@calvitocalvon1711 lol one a day? I wish. More like 2-5 per day for 12 years. Multiple benches, multiple repairs.

@calvitocalvon1711 4 года назад

@@DJ-Daz jeez tons of experience, tell me some anecdotes!

@DJ-Daz 4 года назад

@@calvitocalvon1711 The longest repair was because it would lock-up after 2-4 hours. Before that it was fine. It took nearly a week to fix due to the length of time between lock-ups. It was the soundcard in the end. We had a batch (bloody hundreds of the buggers) of Maxtor HDD's (40GB) that had dodgy firmware and would corrupt the fat. Updating the firmware worked but the number of returns was huge. I've NEVER bought a Maxtor HDD because of it. Strangely it took weeks to months before the fat was destroyed. I spoke to a guy and removed 2 pins from a phone cable (RJ11) because it would cause all the phones to ring as soon as it was plugged in. I promised him it would work fine now. He was polite and insisted he just wanted the cable to work, then just before he left he gave me a business card... He was also called Darren and worked at the regional Trading Standards office. He called me back the next day and said it worked and thanked me again. I once had to go to court over a laptop that wouldn't run a TV repair database (worth hundreds), the owner was told several times this cheap-ass laptop would struggle with it and even the company that made the DB software told him it wouldn't work. We called them too. He wanted a refund. He got a refund and compensation to buy a better machine! I have never, and I mean NEVER heard of anyone ever using the CDROM tray as cup holder. There's a lot more I'm sure, but it was nigh on 15 years ago.

@calvitocalvon1711 4 года назад

@@DJ-Daz hahahahahah this was amazing to read ! Id love to hear more add me on discord Calvo#4120 oh man

@ff00005 4 года назад

I OC'd my memory recently and had the same symptoms when some voltage was too low or a timing was too tight. In my experience an unstable CPU configuration doesn't crash single applications - either it doesn't show or the entire system crashes. Memory is in between and can crash single applications, I suspect because it corrupts single address spaces, where errors can't propagate through the entire system. It will hit the OS AS eventually which then causes "random crashes". You mentioned one tool you didn't know the name of, I think it's "DRAM calculator for Ryzen". EDIT: I just realized your first assumption of thermal issues can cause the same symptoms. I think you did a great job and I hope my comment doesn't look like I want to explain your job to you.

@iStracchino 4 года назад

a single addres error in memory don't crash single application but freeze windows, i have that problem with one of my ram stick :(

@TobyIKanoby 4 года назад

I have had unstable cpu configurations causing crashes in single applications, quite often actually. Games like ac: origins and Warhammer 2 for example, after giving the cpu a little bit more voltage it was fixed (happened to me on both Intel and AMD). It is tricky though because they tend to be seemingly random crashes and not replicable with common testing/benchmarking software. It took me quite a while to figure out what was the cause.

@torsson2 4 года назад

Love your videos. You even made me tidy up my cable management after seeing how you take pride in your work and do things properly

@DaleDix 4 года назад

Consider yourself lucky, he's got me hooked on rgb.

@torsson2 4 года назад

@@DaleDix yeah soo. I have 4 RGB fans. RGB memory and RGB liquid pump... Probably Adams fault as well 😂

@CharlieQ7400 4 года назад

@@torsson2 You guys care for RGB ?

@torsson2 4 года назад

@@CharlieQ7400 it looks nice. Depends where the PC is located of course.

@HuntersMoon78 4 года назад

@@torsson2 My 3 PC's all have RGB fans, RGB Lighting strips. Ryzen has 10 RGB fans. Xeon has 7 RGB fans and RGB on the front of the case.. Opteron has 5 RGB fans and RGB on the front of the case.

@StefanHolmes 4 года назад

3200MHz on a lower end board with Zen+ is definitely hit and miss. If this were a Ryzen 3600, I suspect there wouldn’t have been any errors.

@yotoprules9361 4 месяца назад

I had the same problem even on X470 with Zen+.

@neokhan22 4 года назад

hi, can u disclose ur toolkit? i need to download, can u give us link?

@Adamant_IT 4 года назад

It's a hecking mess right now, filled with loads of random stuff I don't use anymore... but I think a good tidy up is in order. I'll stick it on my video ideas list!

@steso8979 4 года назад

@@Adamant_IT btw, u can see how far it got in the Titlebar of Intelburntest.. 23/100 30:00 (when its running)

@charlesmansplaining 2 года назад

I had this same problem with my Z390 Aorus Pro Gigabyte board. When I use XMP my computer would crash under load. I tried 2 different memory kits and both did it. Gigabyte sucks. I now have a ASUS Z690 I just built a month ago that I'm a lot happier with.

@omgilovesteak6484 4 года назад

I have one of my extra fans connected to a molex. "shrug" it is fine for that one i have.

@sgt_retiredcharlie4102 2 года назад

Adamant, Thanks for the in depth-ness of your thought process. I was glad that you told us which software you were using. I just checked my OLD Laptop's memory and GTX1060 GPU as well as the i7 CPU with some benchmarks and the stress test. It's still performing adequately, although old. Just wanted to thank you for your expertise. I used to have CompTIA Net+, Sec+, A+ and CCNA back in the early 2000's while I was in the Army, but I no longer do any of that stuff. I prefer to just watch all you youngsters doing it on YT. LOL

@mynameisray 4 года назад

Only 7 minutes in and I already know the problem.. He has Epic Game Store installed...

@oddity4650 4 года назад

Yes Fortnite closes a lot

@mouaxiong8618 3 года назад

What you didn't call out Lpx ram Fans on the basement are useless gets air from nowhere or isint even placed the correct way around its pushing air to nowhere B450 ds3h.. Horrible vrms fine for 1600 and 3300x Psu is a white and has horrible caps/built really cheaply .(though okay for these specs) more wattage doesn't mean better!

@ArcaneSurreal 4 года назад

After 20 years of building my own computers, I've learnt a few golden rules. One of them I was reminded of immediately before I clicked on this video. Incompatible memory is the first thorough 'go-to' which should be investigated with random crashes. Be it the brand and / or the speed.

@griz7366 2 года назад

how do i check the speed? my pc has been crashing really bad lately and i have no clue abouts computers

@wilwordsworth 3 года назад

Given the sloppy build I would have inspected the ram modules for corroded sweaty fingerprints. I would have remounted the CPU for the same reason. Oh and put a magnifying glass on the back of the obviously forced 8 pin EPS connector looking for dry joint ring of death. Anyhoo you did well for a yung'un. Well done.

@Scuba_Bro 4 года назад

I love this channel! So glad I found it and YT recommended it. Interesting and it’s good stuff to learn. Greetings from Boston, MA, USA

@Perplexer1 3 года назад

If any tech chopped anything from my computer for whatever reason, I would break his shop window and never return! You just don't do that to a customer's property, no matter what it is!

@budgetking2591 4 года назад

Putting in the CPU power cable is sometimes the toughest thing of the whole build, there is just no space with certain combo's of case+mobo's, can be very frustrating.

@yotoprules9361 4 месяца назад

Especially with large air coolers...

@RVail623 4 года назад

A check for a bios update should have been the first item on the "to do" list. The PSU appears to be oriented incorrectly: upside-down. Should be sucking fresh air from outside the case (if possible). The customer's two extra 120mm cooling fans attached to the PSU are also oriented in reverse direction, and are likely completely unnecessary: should simply be removed. Might also want to double-check the condition of the CPU thermal grease, since it appears to be a "home brew" machine.

@BDz-ho8lg 3 года назад

This PC looks just horrible... Jesus Lord have mercy...

@markjones2349 3 года назад

Not everyone is loaded. Probably plays fortnite and minecraft.

@unnamed715 3 года назад

Seriously? Aside from the hack sawed exhaust fan it looks pretty clean to me compared to the absolute gems I've seen lol I've seen people mounting their liquid cooler radiator on the _outside_ of their case! xD

@rijaja 4 года назад

"hey i had a molex connector hanging out of my fan after plugging the 3 pin too!" -me, when it was pointed out "wow that psu tray looks kinda familiar" -me, seconds later "lmao that looks like the aerocool logo" -me, a little bit later "oh we have the same case" -me now

@hylomane 4 года назад

Don't hate on molex connectors! They're better than the lousy SATA that gets loose over time and loses connection or bend and breaks bricking your hard drive.. Squeeze the wires sideways when plugging in molex connectors, they go in much easier.

@RidinWithMyLocsOn 4 года назад

7:47 "I have not installed anything" -- Yes, you installed the .net 3.5 framwork.. Not having the frameworks installed might be something that could be the reason games are crashing the computer :P

@Snowcrash777 4 года назад

Valid observation but a false conclusion. Not having the proper .NET Framework would even just bring you to the dependency screen he got. It's the "magic" of Microsoft's "compatibility" lol! If you need a .NET Framework it's supposed to be checked for by the games you install that have .NET dependencies. It won't crash a game without it but it will keep a game from even executing.

@Ryan-re1rs 3 года назад

I hope this guy didn't buy a pre build like this.. I'm glad I built my own pc, I know every nook and cranny in my case, every spec was matched, no extra bloat wear I didn't want, all connections were triple checked and accurate.. but a memory issue like this would be hard to figure out without the tool you used. I still do not understand how today's PCs don't have a better diagnostic system and couldn't just tell it there was a memory problem. I hate having to run 10 programs to scan components and see what the are doing.

@tobiasit1743 4 года назад

sometimes you need higher voltage on the memory for xmp ✌🏻

@TobyIKanoby 4 года назад

Yeah, I have had an issue where for some reason I couldn't save the right voltage, it always defaulted to 1.20, very annoying and a lot of restarts and power cycling. In the end some how it did save 1.35. Anyway, I did some research about this particular board and RAM problems, and a common solution for XMP problems seemed to be giving it a little bit more voltage. I didn't need it in the end, so I am not sure it works.

@spakentruth 4 года назад

@@TobyIKanoby XMP is better disabled if you're running into issues. A lot of games like red dead redemption 2 on PC and applications that are memory hungry dont play well with XMP

@TobyIKanoby 4 года назад

@@spakentruth I don't have issues with XMP, my motherboard had because it didn't want to save the right voltage in the BIOS, for some reason it eventually did and everything works just fine now. Do you have any references for "a lot of games" having issues with XMP? Because that sounds like BS to me, at least in the way I buy games, 1 or 2 years after release, when they have a reasonable price and the game is actually finished and optimized.

@RJARRRPCGP 2 года назад

@@spakentruth That's a symptom of the RAM being unstable. It may be due to Vdroop for the VDIMM.

@1withtheuniverse 4 года назад

I would've just started by reseating the RAM sticks. Way easier than starting with all the cable mess. Although the molex pin wouldn't have been caught

@sevigon 4 года назад

Is no one going to talk about the power supply's fans blowing directly into the PC? Is this The Verge's PC?

@rickjohnson2115 3 года назад

No. And if you think (really) about it: it's not worth talking about.

@7.8billionplus19 3 года назад

Man, id be pissed if you cut anything in my pc that wasn't the problem. I hope you got it sorted, didnt watch till the end, to much talk about cutting unused cables. 😔

@NoRRyRaMpaGe 4 года назад

what the heck are those 2 fans doing on the shroud? dragging in air from no where haha looks like the screws were drilled into the shroud aswel xD

@mctooch 4 года назад

Maybe they extra? Lol i have no idea either

@thegreatoutagesign9204 4 года назад

Yeah, came with the case. I did the same thing, just so my drive has that extra bit of cooling because they get pretty toasty.

@gorjy9610 4 года назад

many cases have mounts for fan(s) there. They obviously can't move air directly from outside but idea is that since lowest fan on front side push air under shroud these fans will move that air up to graphics card and/or (depend of card length) chipset, ram or disks.

@DanielsGameVault 4 года назад

I do not agree with snipping off the molex connector off the fan. As a client, I would not like that...

@mass1985 4 года назад

Yea, i would ask first.

@sd1rager 4 года назад

I was having issues once with updates not taking and instability. Turns out my memory wasn't seated 100%. After I fixed it and figured it out that feeling is amazing.

@stefan.drazic 3 года назад

Hey man! I ran hwmonitor as you did in the video. My cpu has 100 degrees celcius when it runs intel burner. At idle it is around 60-70 degrees. I opened the case and my coolers are standing ok, i applied fresh thermal paste and still high temperature. I currently have 2 fans. What should I try?

@everope 2 года назад

Do you still have this issue? What CPU and cooler are you using?

@IamUzyf 3 года назад

Found the problem: FartNight EpicGayStore fUplay

@CaptainHightop 4 года назад

I'd try bumping the ram voltage a little bit, up to like 1.4v. See if the 3200Mhz would be stable with the increased voltage.

@0Wayland 4 года назад

Asrock B450M Pro4 has been a really solid budget board for me. Micron E-die runs 3600 Mhz at tight timings and they've been really good with BIOS updates.

@ronkrantz2957 4 года назад

In my PC building experience, I've found the mobo manufacturers do not test higher speed or higher amounts of RAM but the memory manufacturers do. So, after exhausting the mobo QVL, I do check the RAM manufacturer's compatability list (as they test their higher volume and higher speed RAM against these same motherboards). G.skill allows you to start with a cpu & mobo and see what they support - which I consider acceptable as I'm going back to the RAM manufacturer anyway if the RAM doesn't perform.

@MrHowardMoon 4 года назад

I'm having this issue when I play games on my PC. I thought it was the PSU, but after looking into my motherboard QVL, my single 8GB Samsung DIMM is not supported and is running at 1600MHz. I've switched the DIMM to run at 1333MHz which is what a lot of budget 4th gen boards used. If this doesn't work, I'm leaning back towards the power supply.

@MrHowardMoon 4 года назад

Looks like mine is having a PSU issue as running the memory at 1333MHz didn't work.

@crylune 4 года назад

Please don't use HWMonitor to monitor Ryzen temps, use Ryzen Master instead or HWiNFO.

@Adamant_IT 4 года назад

Yea big time, I've switched over to HWinfo now. HWmonitor ain't up to it anymore it seems.

@XionLuis Год назад

goddamn 1.4v on core on idle, holy smokes, AMD

@antoniorsoftware 4 года назад

Stupid to cut the molex fan connector, you could just use duct tape to cover it.

@MalmoeSnapphane 3 года назад

Is it just who find it strange that the XMP is downclocked to "3000 Mhz" and shows up as "3630 Mhz" in memtest?

@RJARRRPCGP 2 года назад

That's the CPU core frequency.

@datguydim 4 года назад

Good videos! What webcam is that in the case you use for video in the pc?

@crylune 4 года назад

Weird, I just helped someone on Discord who had a Ryzen 5 3600, 16 GB of DDR4 3200 MHz same kit as in the video, and the same B450M DS3H motherboard. We tried setting lots of different timings, voltages, multipliers in the BIOS, and nothing worked. What we ended up doing is setting the timings and frequency in Ryzen Master and what do you know, RAM is finally running at 3200 MHz stable instead of 2133 MHz.

@TheJackelantern 4 года назад

I would be pissed if I got my pc back to find out he cut something off he thought was useless.. I once had a dead Fan header on my MB, and thus the connector he found useless came in very handy and still allowed me to power the fan

@geraldeh7291 4 года назад

I was thinking the same thing. If it was me fixing it, I would have wrapped it in electrical tape instead of going straight to chopping it off.

@bigshmoneyRick 3 года назад

Really happy YT decided to randomly recommend this to me. new sub inbound

@monham5041 4 года назад

Cutting the molex plug off the fan was totally unnecessary and reduces functionality if the system is ever modified or upgraded. This was your personal dislike rather than a required step.

@Adamant_IT 4 года назад

There's no reason to use molex connectors if the fan has a 3-pin on it. Even if it's a cheap mobo with few fan headers, 3-pin splitters cost a couple of bucks, and then you still get temperature control on the fans. I would've done the same to the other fans, and added in a splitter, but they didn't actually have 3-pin on them at all.

@BeastLT 4 года назад

What about slightly increasing the memory voltage?

@Xinrainu 3 года назад

17:30 Thanks, just spilled some water from laughing on this part. xD

@Viaexplore 2 года назад

Sometimes it is just a memory controller which can't keep up under the hreavy load with bad BIOS auto voltage set up. Found out that in some cases rising the SOC vcore voltage from auto to something like 1.2V-1.25V fixes the issue with XMP fails. Sometimes it is also caused by LLC.

@crazy8sdrums 4 года назад

I didn't like the temps on that machine. That heatsink/fan from AMD was too little for a 6/12 Ryzen. It may not have been the issue now, but when it gets a little clogged with pet hair/dust/Cheetos dust etc...it could be. You are probably right about the XMP being the main issue. The 350/450 chipsets don't seem to like RAM speed greater than 3k, and XMP settings are also timing tweaks and I experienced issues with a lot of machines with that setup. The defrag you said you were going to do was unnecessary, assuming it was a newer build and HDD. Getting some more ventilation for the HDD would have been a better use of your time. Again, stress testing a machine with the panels on is preferred because that is how the customer is going to be using it.

@chrisstapler1902 3 года назад

AMD system huh, Found your problem

@stevec5586 4 года назад

Excellent video. Just subscribed. I would have re-seated the memory modules, just in case a bit of contamination on a connector pin was affecting a signal. There's less safety margin at the top end of the performance range.

@rickjohnson2115 3 года назад

Contamination on a connector? What does that involve? A 100 year old computer in a post-nuclear war? Ugh, you people!

@sweedenburg 3 года назад

Jesus. This is my first recommendation and it's 217? I've got a lot of catching up to do. This is EXACTLY what my inner IT guy needs to watch to relax (and fun to troubleshoot with you as you go!) The explanations are involved enough to keep me interested, but the fixes are still simple enough that I could comfortably direct friends and family to specific videos when I'm too busy or annoyed. Perfect! Also, anyone still hanging onto Molex (or defending it) should be ashamed.

@toddphilips6781 4 года назад

I had the same issue and used the Ryzen Dram calculator and used those timings instead of XMP and my system has never crashed again.

@Matlockization 2 года назад

I'm surprised at how methodical you are at fixing these computers. I originally had a Gigabyte mobo then switched to Asus.

@PicaDelphon 4 года назад

Well Some Memory works with Intel and Some works with AMD..I have had this Problem with some Memory sticks way Back in the 386 40 MHz,,

@stuartm5745 4 года назад

At 29:56 you said "It's a shame we don't have a counter to see how far we've got to go." IntelBurnTest provides that information while it's running the tests and it's strange you don't see it. At the same time stamp (29:56) on the top bar of its window it says "23 of 100".

@Eaglesky1 4 года назад

He is more worried bout the fixing.. than the counting.. : ) .. wish is kool.. exacly what i expect from a "tec.".. * * * * *

@stuartm5745 4 года назад

Repairing is about observing and taking notice of what is in front of you.

@technoklutz 4 года назад

I can relate to this situation a few weeks back. Different motherboard and different sets of RAMs. All I can say is that always check manufacturer's QVL portion to avoid getting incompatible memory for your motherboard of choice. And as much as possible always check for warranty of the RAM and other components, make sure that there is at least a 2 week outright replacement warranty for any factory defects or whatsoever.

@dash8brj 13 дней назад

I also found that using Intel kits on AMD and vice versa can be a problem - case in point, my high end gaming desktop - put an Intel kit of corsair dom plats in it and it was not happy. Returned the ram and paid the extra few dollars for the AMD kit and it works flawlessly. (Platform is AMD 's latest 7000 series chip)

@crazy8sdrums 4 года назад

I would have stress tested it initially with the side panel on. The way those fans were set up would have resulted a dead air area right at the CPU heatsink. Having the panel off would have actually made it easier to breathe.

@LeafGreenHDD 4 года назад

after completing memtest. point a fan directly to the ram. during gaming the gpu pcb gets way too hot and transfers unwated heat to the ram

@FreakyChumy 3 года назад

The same thing happens to my PC lately after purchasing a used AMD Radeon graphics card from China. When I'm doing MS Word, Adobe Premiere, After effects, it works great and is awesome, with no resets at all. BUT, when I played my favorite Game Forza Horizon, it resets itself automatically. So we could say HEY, these used products are junkies, it could be the Graphics Card, right? TURNS OUT, IT'S NOT. You see, graphics card needs the power to power its processor, which will give your awesome display right? So I bought a new Power Supply Unit and everything works great, even with my favorite game. It's was just a PSU Malfunctioning.

@FafaGamingYT 2 года назад

Hello, new viewer here, I am experiencing issues with my game crashing (RedM which is private servers for RDR2) and it was running fine till about 2 days ago when I re-seated my RAM (I noticed that my PC wasn't using all the RAM 16GB) which gave me it all back. Now when I try to run the game, it'll crash anywhere from a minute in game to 30 mins. I have cleaned the PC physically, dust etc, checked wiring and swapped the RAM sticks beck to how they were, tried rolling back driver to dec 2021 which was recommended to me, then also as that didnt work just updated to newest version again. Yet it is still happening, any ideas on where I go with troubleshooting this issue? i'm pulling my hair out a bit! im using nvidia GTX 1050 ti like the rig in this video, AMD FX(tm) 8350 8 core processor. If you think I need to upgrade anything what would you recommend?

@KeinZantezuken 2 года назад

Remember kids - NEVER put you hand into the case of working system, let alone without anti-static wrist badge. And NEVER try to plug and replug things on working system unless it is an USB-device that goesi nto USB slot. Typical YT education.

@Reboot7080 5 месяцев назад

Hiya, late comment but I saw this video in your popular videos section. I happen to have the same CPU in this current system right now and am happily running it as my daily driver without any issues. I have dual rank, dual memory (2x2R) RAM chips (model numbers I won't mention as it might auto-flag my comment for spam). According to the official CPU specs, it can only handle dual rank memory chips for speeds up to 2933mhz. I remember having memory issues when I stuck in four total sticks of the same kit. The MMC/MMU (and by extension, SoC) of this CPU has trouble handling RAM at speeds of 3200MHz. The way I circumvent this is by running my computer is by applying a slight SoC overvoltage (around 1.2, 1.25v) by extension of a 4.1GHz all-core overclock with core voltages set to 1.35v. This is generally not recommended and I don't advise anyone doing this, but this is how I've always ran my computer (and of course, was sure to validate everything by stressing out everything during summer). As a result of my memory mishap, I Now Always Recommend Everyone To Run Memtest86+ When Using XMP or memory tuning. There's always a possibility it won't run the way you'd want it to run, and always cross-reference your components, see if they're compatible with advertised settings and speeds. If not, benchmark it til you break it. Nothing sucks more than an unstable system

@zomaardan 3 года назад

Homeless guy trying to learn a job just finding your uploads and i love them. Thank you ill be supporting you where i can.

@tripsix2186 2 года назад

Great video and troubleshooting, takes me back to my days as a computer tech. Thank you!

@BlahFubar 3 года назад

Hi there as matter of interest custom built pc i have with all the bells and whistles, my problem started when my old PSU was starting to die by making not such a good sound when i turned it on so i replaced it with a ROG THOR Platinum. So i stripped pc down installed the new one and replaced the cooler with Aurous ATC 800. Hit the power button no start. so i went around it stripped it down check everything re-seated everything only key board mouse connected and started no problem and went to posting screen. So it ran great for a week then one night just shut down now 3 weeks on I've tried every thing it starts then gos off not even making it to the posting screen am at a complete loss here so how much would some of your skill services cost me.

@wrong2h8 4 года назад

I hate people that overclock. I have racked my damn brain on soooo many computers to people who "haven't touched anything, haven't changed any settings" and they have have crashes and blahblahblah, and to find out they overclock 96.3% of the time...

@RWL2012 4 года назад

Haha today my B450M DS3H / Ryzen 3 3200G / 2x 8GB HyperX Fury DDR4 3200 pre-assembled bundle arrived for my modern use PC, to replace my M5A78L-M LX PLUS / FX 4100 / 2x 8GB HyperX Fury DDR3 1600, and my GPU is also staying a 1050 Ti for now. So I can relate :P EDIT: 5 months later I upgraded the CPU cooler on what was my pre-assembled board - it was my first ever CPU cooler installation and got the thermal paste right the second time. but I can do it now :)

@tuttocrafting 4 года назад

My amd rules: Buy only MSi mobo. Never buy Corsair RAM. (I had issues with Asus A-XMP, and gigabyte and with Corsair memory Asus was b470 and gigabyte haves silly bioses I always avoid gigabyte on all platforms due to lot of past issues I had) In general spend at least 100usd for the mobo or you would have issues, cheap mobos don't last. So don't cheap out on PSU or mobo. Cheap out on chassis or fancy GPUs like get a simple gtx2060 from msi and not the "super duper EVGA triple fan cooled chamber faster OC edition" I have old cheap mobos that are not failed but you know. Better spend 20 buck more and have a long life PC. BTW I'M NOT A MSI, to me it seems like the most stable bios and support for AMD. (My main PC is a ROG on Intel platform so not a fanboy 😉)

@semsemhw7997 2 года назад

Thanks Man, you're a life saver, this Problem made me crazy. in 18 years of hardware experience I never faced problem like this and i tried every thing bios update, new system, change GPU an drivers even i changed my old SSD to new one because Memtest64 on system and Furmark test doesn't show any errors. my alt System Ryzen 5 2600 B450 Aours Elite V2 Rm 2×8GB 3200Mhz T-Force DarkZ R7 370 2GB From Egypt with love Bro may God bless you

@ahhReno 4 года назад

I have a doozie for you. My little brother bought a Ryzen 7 3700x and installed into his MoBo without flashing the BIOS, therefore it wouldn't POST with the 3700 in it. After learning that his GTX 1050ti would bottleneck the shit out of it, he put back in his Ryzen 5 2400G. Now he gets random BSOD. I ran Memtest86 and it got 28,000+ errors in the first Pass. He ordered new RAM and still gets random BSOD.

@feeterican 4 года назад

My first bare bones PC build was using a Gigabyte MoBo with a P4 2.4GHz CPU. That PC was snappy as hell and I loved it. Then I went ahead and built a secondary PC using a ASUS MoBo with a AMD 2400+ single core. That PC was just a bunch more smoother but not as snappy. After having the least amount of problems with the ASUS MoBo I tried a Intel ASUS combo Pentium - D 3.0GHz and damn, back then it was freakin awesome, snappy/smooth games ran great. fast forward to now 15 years later and my 3 PCs are all ASUS, 2 x Z97 and 1 x Z390 along with ASUS GPU's. The way I manage this. When I get something new for my Gaming PC I cycle that old part or parts down to my secondary PC and then those old parts go to the 3rd PC. The reason I have 2 x Z97 boards, I did a repair on a friends PC and he cooked the MoBo. He went and bought a new one and told me to keep the old one. Here, that MoBo was still under warranty and I sent it into ASUS, they fixed it and I kept it, letting my friend know and he didn't really care since I do a lot of work for him.

@SE77ENGaming 4 года назад

I had a recent RAM issue where I had been running Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB at 3200MHz and all was good. I bought another 16GB kit of the exact same memory and installed it. Passed MemTest86 after 6 hours with no errors but was getting BSOD. Turns out my original kit was version 5.32 and my new kit was 4.32. 5.32 was made by a completely different manufacturer than 4.32 and it was a compatibility issue. I couldn’t believe it that the exact same RAM was incompatible with each other! But that’s what it was.