@Kyel ! No its not but honestly it does come close but the level of work and action and dialogue in lotr is by far superior with all the character development they had was better and very emotional and lotr won 14 oscars
@Kyel ! I don't disagree, I mean.. it's your opinion... but the smarter characters?... bruh, batman in those movies was the dumbest. I like those movies, I love them, but every character was smarter than him... he just happened to have good people and tech at his disposal. Let's hope the Battinson will be truly a detective... But naah.. the thing with more grounded in reality.. you know what fantasy is, bruv? and how many subgenres do fit into fantasy? LOTR, THE DARK KNIGHT TRILOGY, OG STAR WARS, those are the TOP 3, no questions asked, whatever order, I don't mind. Just saying... i could bring a valid counter argument to all your points but You got your opinion and perspectives... Just don't generalize them as the correct truth.
@Kyle ! There is no such thing as objective... There is only preferences and subjective truths. I could tell you that Sauron was to proud and confident and wanted to taunt Isildur. Mount doom wasn't guarded cause, again, quote coming from the Two Towers movie: "the thought that we seek to destroy the ring hasn't even crossed their darkest dreams"- Gandalf The White. Saruman was consumed with hate and disdain for Rohan, Theoden and Gandalf and Aragorn, that the existance of the ents has slipped his mind. Tree-Beard says it best: Saruman used to walk the woods of Fangorn but of late, his mind was only to industry and fires and the rulling of the world. Again, tree-beard said:" a wizard should know better!" I could go on and on because i actually understand the story and their motivations and reasons and so on. I've better things to do right now, than to argue with you. Remember this! In the future, before you claim some "truth", remember that this random dude told you that nothing is either good or bad, false or true... It's only subjective truth and opinions. I'
Kyle, btw, the things you complaining about, all ignorant critics said the same things on many sites, posts, videos and platforms, so... Come with something original, ffs. Stop repeating the same uninspired misjudgements.
Chris Zalitach , sorry I should’ve said in my opinion . I’ve never felt that excited watching something on TV . It’s the only episode from GOT that I have saved on my planner and I tend to watch it when I’m very drunk . There’s one part I don’t like and that’s when the initial charge of the dead hits the front ranks of defenders and they appear to be swept away . Quite a bit of plot armour seems to have been worn for so many of the characters involved to have survived that . The last ten minutes are my absolute favourite and the music is outstanding . I’m currently reading the books and I’m starting to make my peace with a lot of what went on in season 7 & 8 of the show . I’m almost finished A Storm of Swords and there hasn’t been a mention of The Night King yet . Also Daenerys is completely mental and Kings Landing and all its awful citizens deserve a good roasting 🔥🔥🔥
BT 1 , no probably not . But for a whole episode I was captivated like I’ve never been before whilst watching a TV show . You are so right about it not even being the best battle , now that I think about it ,but it was just the fact that the whole episode was dedicated to it that made it so special for me . I’m in no way bashing LOTR by the way , I absolutely love it and always will . It just feels kind of tainted for me now as The Hobbit trilogy was so bleeding awful ! .
Ian McKellen was born to play this role, his face and acting skills perfectly shows mentor, protector and wisdom. Damn, whole casting is perfect. Period
Absolutely agree--except for one character. In the book, Denethor, steward of Gondor, is a noble soul corrupted by despair and anger at what he sees as a hopeless fight against the dark. In the movie he's just semi-senile, irrational, unwashed, disgusting. Not the actor's fault, but it's the one place the Peter Jackson missed the opportunity to explain Boromir's issues in a complex way instead of simplistically blaming his behavior on his father's playing favorites.
Interesting thing. Christopher Lee was a personal friend of Tolkien's, and there was a general agreement that when Lord of the Rings was eventually made into a movie, he would play Gandalf. During casting, Christopher Lee was offered the role of Gandalf, but he turned it down because it was too physically demanding and he was getting old. So they cast him as Saruman instead. And he played it perfectly.
The movies with the 3 most epic battles in my opinion are: 3: Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers. 2: Avengers: Endgame. 1: Logan. (You are probably surprised, but this final battle is just so freaking good - idk why I love it so much)
@@SomebodyUnknown233 I enjoyed Endgame but I think LOTR takes it because of the implementation of practical effects and miniatures. Obviously CGI was used for a lot of the Uruk army but the large amount of practical effects really grounds the battle, as opposed to Endgame which is a bunch of actors punching at invisible enemies on a greenscreen soundstage.
TFCRAFTER - That’s extremely true, but I liked Endgame due to all the payoff of all the films, but I respect your opinion and kind of agree with you on that one.
King Elessar: “Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them.” King Théoden: “For death and glory?” King Elessar: “For Rohan... For your people...” A legendary moment for the ages.
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The horn of Helm Hammerhand shall sound in the Deep, one last time. The delivery of this line is absolutely perfect, and it's so powerful. We have an idea that Gandalf is coming with help, Aragorn has a vague hope that Gandalf may do SOMETHING, although he is doubtful about it being enough. But Theoden doesn't have that. He is going to ride and buy even a few more minutes for his people to escape, but the thought of surviving this ride isn't even a consideration for, never crosses his mind. But it's for his people. Tolkien knew how to write an incredible king.
The Second World War was raging and things looked bleak when Tolkien wrote Lord of the Rings (intended as a single book -- his publishers took one look at the thousands of pages and went "lol, no"). LoTR is a lot of things, among them an examination of Original Sin from a Catholic perspective, but it was also Tolkien's faith in the simple, hardy, common people of England -- as symbolized by the Shire -- to shake the very heavens and overthrow evil with their humble strength. Theoden is probably a stand-in for a lot of fighters and politicians in exile helping to drive the Nazis out of their homeland, people like de Gaulle.
@@NoJusticeNoPeace except not. Tolkien said many times that people could read what they wanted into it, but he was very explicit that his books were not meant as allegory or direct references to the wars during his own life, even if they obviously influenced him.
@@chevin0 Tolkien was a member of the Inklings, a UK writers' group (whose members included C.S. Lewis) who made a game of claiming their work had no symbolic meanings, even when they very clearly and obviously did.
I love this moment. The epicness really makes me cry at how brave the warriors are, when it's life-death battle. The bravery, the momentum, the determination to fight and die for your people, for humanity. This is what makes LOTR one of the best movies in the world for me. I watched LOTR trilogy like 20-30 times, and it never gets old for me. My mother showed me LOTR when I was around 6-7 y.o, now Im 24, still gets me. Not because this is my childhood, nah. Just because its a brilliant masterpiece.
dude, I cried too, that king and his soldiers were goin to fight till the end. It was so moving to see so few against a wide black sea of orcs. Masterpiece man!
The music alone is enough to pull people out of a depression. Let alone the cinematics, epic lines etc. And they managed with all three movies....unbelievable
Hand over heart, this movie absolutely brought a much younger version of myself back from the brink. Started with Gandalf freeing Theoden from the spell and then this.
@kabukikommandofourthworld5266 semantics. The sun rose behind Gandalf and flooded the valley with light. All I needed to see/understand in that moment.
@@kabukikommandofourthworld5266 It was the sun's rays rising in intensity to blind the enemy at the command of Gandalf, through the power and authority granted him by Eru Illuvatar. Tldr, the sun blinded the bad guys because God gave Gandalf the power to make it to do so.
When I read 'The Two Towers', over 50 years ago, I said, 'they couldn't possibly ever film this.' I could not have been more wrong. Thank you, Peter Jackson Fran Walsh & co. What an achievement.
Brilliantly said A lot of the fans of the movies haven't read the book Like you . I have To understand the scale of the work done by Peter Jackson and the team ..you really need to read the books They have done real justice
You will be pleased to know that in the book Eomer isn't banished but falsely imprisoned by Wormtongue. He is also released shortly after Gandalf breaks Saruman's spell of influence on Theoden. At Helms Deep Eomer and Theoden are fighting together and it's a "knight/lord" of the Rohirrim named Erkenbrand that Gandalf leaves Helms Deep to go find. Also Gandalf doesn't arrive when Erkenbrand shows up with his men, he is still out rallying up more forces. The battle is basically done by the time Gandalf gets back. There are also no women, children, or elves at helms deep. The women and children are at Dunharrow. Gandalf and Theoden make for Helms Deep to draw Saruman's forces AWAY from the people of Rohan. The elves are busy fighting battles on their own borders. Eowyn is still at Edoras by order of King Theoden to lead in his stead if the battle goes bad. She was suggested as leader by Hama who says to Theoden "Eowyn is fearless and the people love her". You'll be even MORE pleased to know that Theoden is ready to kick some ass and also help Gondor as soon as Saruman's spell is broken. He doesn't wish wash around with that. He's ready to go to war as soon as possible to protect his people. As a side note the "beacons of Minis Tirith" are for warning the people of Anorien of imminent danger. Rohan receives "The Red Arrow" as a call for aide. Denethor both lights the beacons AND sends out the Red Arrow WELL before Gandalf and Pippin go to Gondor. Denethor is a old hard assed military man in the book, not some weirdo psychotic madman like the movie portrays. He is rough on Faramir but he doesn't really "break" until he thinks Faramir is dead.
@@joshuafoley8415 Don't know why I'm wasting my time with someone whose first instinct is name-calling but, primo: everything he's said is true; secundo: nowhere did he claim the LotR trilogy isn't a masterpiece despite having numerous flaws. Take a seat and relax.
@@joshuafoley8415 oh please, I beg to differ. They're my favourite movies of all time, but unlike you, I'm not as asinine as to believe they're flawless. The books reign supreme. Oh and "everyone who's read the book thinks likewise" - - > There, my argument has so much more weight to it now.
“Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them.” “For death and glory?” “For Rohan. For your people.” “The sun is rising.” “Look to my coming at first light on the fifth day. At dawn, look to the East.” “Yes. Yes. The Horn of Helm Hammerhand shall sound in the deep......one last time!” “Yes.” “Let this be the hour, when we draw swords together. Fell deeds awake. Now for wrath, now for ruin, and a RED DAWN!! FORTH EOLINGETH!!!” Still one of the best moments film history, and not just because it is a symbolic understanding that in the face of certain death, a group of barely armed soldiers, one lonely king who had lost any sense of what he is fighting for, an elf, a dwarf, and a lone Ranger still desperately trying to run away from his destiny, were able to band together and tear through unspeakable odds and come out. I also believed that it was in those words that Aragorn realized that he has the potential to be a leader worth following and dying for because of his undying conviction and his gentle heart. And you see that as Theoden embraces Aragorn as both a comrade and brother in arms. Theoden has gracefully accepted Aragorn as king, and is willing to fight and die with him if it’s to be their end. Such powerful words, and they never get old.
It is because the story comes from a man who has deeply studied the very sound and poetry of words and trying to use them to understand why his childhood friends died. Was it really worth it for Tommy to die guttering, choking, or drowning in the trenches? Was still it worth riding out because Belgium calls for aid?
Lord of the Rings and Star Wars are also for kids. There is nothing wrong with that. You can have media made for kids be total masterpieces. Like this one here :)
@@ahmet_10 No Both Hobbit and Lord of the Rings were written by Tolkien as children's books. The lord of the rings movies are pg-13 rated like any superhero movie. There is nothing wrong with children shows being enjoyable by adults. There is nothing that can make an adult show superior or inferior to children's show by itself. Please stop thinking that "kids stuff=bad"
@@MegaAgamon PG - 13 doesn't show it is good for kids, Deadpool is +15 but it is for kids, PG is arranged for violence, lotr has not too much violence, but it it for adults not kids
I saw this in the theater. The audience was spellbound by how good the acting and special effects were, and the music. LOTR trilogy is as good if not better than the Star Wars Trilogy.
@SwenglishGamer I just came here to say the exact same thing. A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back are the only good Star Wars films. The rest just aren't worth it. Don't even get me started on Disney.
Never understood the starwars-hype To me it was always a bit of a popcorn kiddie rollercoaster adventure park kind of thing Though i love many sf this just doesn't do it for me Even the fans dont like it anymore Really theres no comparrison So many levels layers in LOTR espacially backing up by the books.. While they use books to right the wrongs in the starwars sequels... Need i say more
“The Horn of Helm Hammerhand shall sound in the Deep... one last time. Let this be the hour when we draw swords together. Fell deeds awake. Now for wrath. Now for ruin. And the red dawn!” Man I love that quote.
The rumor says that this November they will announce something related about that, and also is confirmed that in 2021 they will expand to more countries (Mexico, Brazil, England, Spain, France...I don't know about India, China, Japan or South Korea)
Fun little tidbit here: Gandalf actually does have one of the Rings of Power, given to the Elves, called Narya. Narya is said to give people the inspiration to 'resist tyranny, domination, and despair." When the sun shines, Gandalf is riding closer and closer to Helm's Deep, and I always believe that Narya had a role to play in Théoden's courage, especially since Théoden says "Yes....YES" right after the scene where we're reminded of Gandalf, as the light streams in and Gandalf is arriving.
If you know enough lore to know Gandalf has Narya, you should know that Gandalf doesn't arrive at Helms Deep until after the battle is already won. Erkenbrand (the main person Gandalf left Helm Deep to find) is the one who leads his 1000 or so men against Saruman's forces that make them break and flee (as they were caught of guard). Gandalf is STILL OUT rallying up warriors during the bulk of the hardcore fighting. Also Eomer was never banished AT ALL, he had been falsely imprisoned by Wormtongue and was released shortly after Gandalf freed Theoden's mind of Saruman's influence. Eomer is already AT Helms Deep fighting alongside King Theoden. No women, children, OR ELVES (except for Legolas) are at Helms Deep either.
@@waynepurcell6058 That's funny, I thought we were commenting on the movies, not the books, since this is a video on the movies and I specifically mentioned the words 'scene'. Obviously, in the movies, those things you said don't apply. I just mentioned how I like to think that, in this scenario, in the movies, this is how it went. Thanks for coming in here with your completely pointless insertion of knowledge that not a single person asked for. I'm sure you're fun at parties.
@@TheMapofYourHead No, it's titbit. It was changed to tidbit by prudish americans. Check the Oxford dictionary. Just like americans use "bathroom" for public toilet despite there never being a bath in there.
Perfect script, perfect acting, perfect special effects, perfect music. Never has a director done such complete justice to a classic of literature, and so memorable..... I remember watching this scene in the cinema like it was yesterday.
Young people don't understand what it was like to watch this in theaters 20+ years ago. The horn made your seat vibrate; the theater resonated with the charge of the horses; your eyes, used to the darkness of the nighttime battle, are also dazzled by the sun as the camera pans to the Rohirrim led by Gandalf and Éomer. Now people watch this on the screen of a smartphone and think it's a big deal. Like watching a cat and thinking you've met a lion.
It isn’t just the action or the special effects that make this moment so memorable. It’s the performances of the actors who managed to make us believe that they were all brave men riding out to their deaths in the name of their people. Goosebumps, man.
When I tell people that The Two Towers is my favourite LOTR movie, I point to this scene to explain why. Theoden's speech is quite possibly the most epic thing I've ever heard in my life.
Just point to the whole of the last hour of the movie. It's one epic scene after another. "Who am I, Gamling" "So it begins" "Is this all you can conjure, Saruman?" "The last march of the Ents" "The horn of Helm Hammerhand" "Theoden king stands alone" ... and there's still another one ... my favourite one Samwise the Brave's speech The sheer number of unforgettable moments is overwhelming really.
Placed it on full screen the moment I started watching. Got too into the movie that I literally forgot this was just a clip until the HBO Max sign showed up 😂
@@znjjnj1853 I love lotr but the avengers scene was also pretty epic. Just everyone is there to fight the one big evil. Its a great scene but it doesnt even come close to this scene or the ride of the rohirrim.
How can a scene I have watched 40,306 times still send a shiver and goosebumps through me you ask? Because it is the greatest movie ever made. That's how.
2:37 literally gives me goosebumps to this day. One of the most intensely epic moments in cinematic history. The music, pacing, and acting are sublime it's really hard to ascribe just how it makes one feel. I think we all believe that we could be heroes one day, charging down our demons in an outburst of courage and bravery so that our deepest depressions will have little chance of ever returning.
3:06 one of the best scene from this great scene I rewatched LotR trilogy a month ago and keep coming to RU-vid to watch some clips over and over, so thanks a lot for uploading this
"Never" is a very long time. But as far as having an audience totally in awe with appreciation because they had actually READ the original upon which the movie was based? Yeah, maybe never.
Man, oh man I've seen the trilogy more than 20 times easily, but never noticed at 1:44 that Aragorn screams: "ELENDIL!". Those little things.... that's why this is the greatest movie trilogy of all time.
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I love how he pulls him up on "death and glory" to give a king to king lesson on how to act under the worst circumstances. And also the way that this moment basically solidifies a bond of peace and fellowship between the two rightful rulers of Gondor and Rohan, which if didn't exist there may have been much less chance Theoden king would have helped in the final battle at Gondor. Man, I need to read those books again, this is still the greatest fantasy story ever told IMO. Sam is the real MVP
At that time like in early 2k's was so difficult to film a movie like this.Most people and fans say endgame was look fantastic,ok I agree but this was a masterpiece and ahead of it's time and so popular and so on.
Lmao end game doesn’t even come close my man, lotr forever and ever lol (maybe I’m just nostalgic cos I saw these films in the cinemas as a kid)…but there was nothing of this calibre out there before lotr came out, whereas now and in the marvel era, all it is cgi and less about the actors and the score
I was expecting endgame to have a level of excitement and epic battles like these movies portrayed. I was heavily disappointed. Just goes to show you, these movies are a treasure. If only filmmakers and directors loved the job as much as Peter Jackson and crew had.
@Kyel ! U have a good argument Kyle, But season 8 sucks, and u have it compare them both as a whole, and as a whole, Lord of the rings wins cos season 8 was a let down. a bad one.
The imperfections is what makes this movie so great. It was a unique era of CG and practical that will never really be done again. The blend of SPFX and VFX created its own aesthetic that will most likely never be replicated.
I feel like I've thumbs up'ed this scene in a million different upload forms over the past decade. And I will keep doing so until the day I depart for the undying lands (or RU-vid ceases to be).
This is the greatest “arrives at the battle” scene. The second is in the return of the king when Rohan arrives in Gondor. The third is the portals scene in endgame.
@@Alice.59 4th (if it counts) would be when the army of the dead arrive at hardhome 5th would be when the knights of the vale show up in battle of the bastards. 6th would be 704 and maybe 7th would be when dany shows up beyond the wall in 706
"Look for my coming on the fifth day." Anybody else think he found the Rohirim on like, day 2 and was like "Well, this is a bit awkward, but we have to wait until Friday morning to get to Helm's Deep." "But why?" There are enough of us that if we go now, lives can be saved and the orukhai beaten back." "Because it will look amazing."
No.. He anticipated their position after strider told him their meeting. He also planned to face the uruk hai army on the fifth day with rohan army but the war accidentally started in the night.
still i get that goosebump when rohirrim horseman arrived with gandalf. what a movie so many memories together. this scene absolutely epic. so many goosebump scenes in the chapter
When will HBO Max be available internationally? I must sign it ASAP. Also praying that the extended versions are available. It would be a dream come true ❤
GOT had Hardhome, The Battle Of The Bastards and Winterfell The Long Night. LOTR had THIS. THIS is legendary and sheer brilliance. Thank you Peter Jackson. You are a god damn genuis.
Gandalf's yell at 3:08 is one of the best parts in any battle scene ever, it adds so much energy to already energy filled sequence. It's like his yell makes you want to yell as if you are personally riding with him towards those uruks
