I love that Erika completely showed her true colors this season. Not an ounce of remorse for the victims. She really screwed up her chance. And PK is 100% right !
She didn't know about that I'm almost positive and when her whole life is being stripped from her, I'd be the same too. Now if she knew... It's different
@@kmariamv these days all these celebs have to do is post an AD on IG and they get a hefty check...she'll be more than ok. But will she have the same lifestyle? Private jet, glam squad and pasadena mansion?? Nope.
Been saying it for seasons now, Kyle is an instigator, talks smack but will pretend everyone else is at fault and she had no involvement when she’s at the center of all the bad mouthing. She’s thrown many “friends” under the bus for less, hell, even her own sister!
PK made the the most sense out of the show. She needs to rethink her branding or at least put the brakes on if she doesn’t want to. She’s not making herself look good by basically rubbing it in.
I don’t agree with most of what she does, but garcelle shouldn’t be upset about lisa not having her back. I just didn’t see that coming cuz most of the girls didn’t defend garcelle in both situations. I feel so bad for her and she deserves better
I wish Sutton would have looked at EJ after she made that final threat and said “I think you are a liar.” Seriously, Erika! You have so many problems and Sutton calling you a liar is what you choose to focus on? EJ and Tom have concocted this elaborate story and she is terrified that Sutton’s questions will expose the truth.
I wish Sutton hadn’t walked out of that dinner, that made Erika feel too good. As for Erika threatening Sutton on television while she is in midst of a federal investigation, how dumb is she?
Yup. She is on tape. Anything happens to Sutton from Erika and she can and should be fully investigated by authorities. There are things you just don’t say even if it’s for tv. Not in the position she is now. But she can go ahead and keep sinking herself more of all I care. She never mentioned nor cared about the victims and that is where I draw the line with her. I hope not see her again in the show either.
she thinks all those BOUGHT/VOTED IN favours are still going to cover her bare ar*e - although, she is buddies with the LA Police Commissioner and he and his staff have access to all the resources they need to mess with people and get away with it...
I understand why Sutton freaked out about Erika's threats. Many employees of the State Bar are being investigated because they have allegedly accepted gifts, trips, and private flights from Tom so that they would overlook the many complaints about him, including stealing money from the victims. So the old man is very powerful and she worried about her family. Erika just admitted that he is not insane basically, he might be watching Sutton from his house and planning on how to bring her and her family down. He is a monster!
Só true!! I wish Garcell would be more vocal though. She just keeps taking it all in and she’s not dumb, she can totally tell that Rinna is talking out of her …
Yeah I know…like… oh so you’re saying that he’s well enough to understand and sue someone but not well enough to remember what happened with 100k million dollars? - ok girl, ok!!
I wish Sutton would have looked at EJ after she made that final threat and said “I think you are a liar.” Seriously, Erika! You have so many problems and Sutton calling you a liar is what you choose to focus on? EJ and Tom have concocted this elaborate story and she is terrified that Sutton’s questions will expose the truth.
@@TheTuellfamily The problem with these BH housewives is that it's very clear they make a lot of rules amongst each other outside filming. So that's why they don't go all the way with each other because they want to stay friendly and civil.
Right?? And better yet, why are they all afraid of her? Erika wouldn't last two minutes with some of the housewives from other franchises. (Kenya comes to mind)
Why is that Garcelle can bring up something or confront a situation and tell it like it is concerning Erika or the other ladies, she’s labeled an”bully”?! But Erika blatantly spews evilness and threatens with her finger pointing in Sutton’s face for when Sutton tries to clarification and her option of the situation, Erika is forgiven by other ladies and they excuse her behavior?! Somethings wrong with that picture, the treatment is unfair!
Lisa Rinna really doesnt get it.Garcelle never said that she wants her to fight her battles but just to have her back and be there for her as she is for Erika.But how could Rinna understand anything about being a friend to anyone.
@The viva warrior to be fair she did say she would could take the comment about eating disorder back if she could,and if Erika's husband is a criminial you cant turn other way from it and pretending its not shady,Garcelle is acting and asking all the questions I would ask and she is doing it to Erika's face(unlike some)so I dunno that's just my opinion obviously
Rinna was no friend to Denise Richards and they have known each othet 20 years are more so why did Garcelle think Lisa would everything have her back? Sutton and Garcelle need to look out for each other because the four musketeers have an alliance. Crystal and Kathy look out for each other. Crystal is a bit snubbish to me but Kayhy is funny and down to earth !
@The viva warrior You don't speak for all the viewers. Garcelle is wonderful, but I understand why you got an issue with her, she's beautiful and confident.
I think it's very old-fashioned to expect a follow-up thank you when you've already been verbally thanked. It wasn't a wedding, after all. Plus, I think it's tacky to reprimand someone for not doing it.
@@testedtried1233People know it's done. They just don't do it because it's antiquated. It's overkill. We're talking about a gift of sauce, not the Hope Diamond. The verbal thank-you was on par with the gift. I'd rather have a sincere verbal thank-you rather than a bloated thank you card done out a sense of obligation.
I wish Sutton would have looked at EJ after she made that final threat and said “I think you are a liar.” Seriously, Erika! You have so many problems and Sutton calling you a liar is what you choose to focus on? EJ and Tom have concocted this elaborate story and she is terrified that Sutton’s questions will expose the truth.
Rinna was clearly not drunk. Rewatching this and realized she told Erika to take a breath at the dinner. She knew exactly what was happening and just didn’t want to go against Erika. 😆
I don't think she should have pushed the situation between Ericka and Sutton. I think they all should take a step back and give her a moment to breathe. She comes around hoping for support and instead she's being attacked every time. Women should support each other. And until everyone knows the truth, ( which I don't think anybody knows the whole truth but Erica and Tom ) , they should let Erica's attorney handle this and just support her the best they can.
Rinna wasn't drunk, she knew everything that went on, she heard everything that was said. They all are scared of Ericka, she is bullying all of them. Rinna has her head so far up Ericka's butt, Garcell needs to man up, and tell Rinna what to kiss!
@StrangeDayz watch the show again. You will see lisa lipps various facial expressions in response to what was being said. She was not drunk. I think she planned to drink so she would use that as a cop out when stuff hit the fan. She's a coward.
PK was PHENOMENAL in explaining Erika's situation to Dorit. I mean, he even got ME to TRULY sit up and really LISTEN to what he was saying to her. Just made me gain even MORE respect for him because he wasn't mean, or sarcastic - he just truly and honestly explained what Erika is doing and what she HAS to do! LOVED him in this episode!!
Me too. I just don't think Erika sees herself in a way that isn't sexual. That has been her fall back and this alter ego from a psychological viewpoint is very telling. I have often wondered if there was some kind of sexualization done to her as a child? Either through molestation or seeing her mother experience it.
I was waiting for this post. When you confront a narcissist they are skilled to put the blame back onto to you. Rinna was quick to put Garcelle on the defense when Garcelle listed specific incidents where Rinna was disloyal. Rinna manufactured an offense by exaggerating a lack of a thank you. Garcelle was gaslighted by Rinna.
@@mmmarite yeah aren’t they OLD friends even?? Maybe they weren’t close but being Hollywood veterans should count for something between them. I hate that I enjoyed Rinna when she first came the the show. Now I see how fake she is. I fell for it 😵💫
RH ladies are usually not very sharp with their words... that I kind of hate about this franchise, even if they think they won’t say some stuff just to act fancy. Erika would not be acting all big and mean if she was in any other city, especially Atlanta, Potomac, New York ir New Jersey. They would gather her.
Duh...Tom would have Malpractice Insurance....they will pay...Erika was Tom's wife...not business partner...nor is she a Attorney. THINK!!! So, say your husband or boyfriend gets a DUI...you are charged too?
Erika is cold as ice. She hasn’t mentioned the victims once (except for when Garcelle brought it up and she basically looked stunned and choked on her agreement like it had never occurred to her). Erika shows the right emotions, sadness anger fear, but for all the wrong reasons. There’s no way to twist it and say she just doesn’t like to talk about the victims or express her feelings. Either it’s an act because she’s lying and knew or it’s an act because she only cares about herself and wants to keep everything she can. 🤷♀️
She's been using their money from the very beginning and if she didn't sympathize with them then, who's to say she cares about them now. She was hoping to get away with it, but she's only "sorry" she got caught.
Exactly! A normal person would react like this: shame, horror, apologetic to death, begging for forgiveness. "I can't believe this is happening... how could Tom do this to those poor people? The families of plane crash victims, orphans, I can't... I can't believe this was happening. I'm going to sell all my Prada, Gucci, Hermes, or whatever and give it to those people. Not everything but at least my huge collections of shoes, bags, designer clothes... I don't need so much stuff... what if this was all bought with money for orphans and widows??? God forgive me, I need to do something for the victims." She has NEVER said anything about helping the victims OR the shame of using their money (even if she didn't know it). ALL she says is: "I can't believe Tom did this to me. I thought I knew him. Look at my life." Girl WHAT? -------- Erika is not a psychopath. She HAS the ability to feel empathy. We've seen it. She's not missing that part of her brain.... --------- So why isn't she showing her inner empathy for those victims now?? Why is she focusing on misfortune instead of the misfortune of those poor people... I think it's because her empathy for the victims has run out. She was in on this theft from the beginning for 10 to 20 years. She has already worked through that guilt and mentally came to terms with it a long time ago. So now she can't muster up empathy for them, because she went through that process a long time ago. Think of a butcher, for example. WE would be HORRIFIED if we had to chop the head off a horse. But some people out there eat horse meat (ew). But to the butcher, I guess that's normal. The FIRST time, I'm sure the butcher felt shame and guilt for murdering an innocent horse... but later in his career, the butcher doesn't care... because after 10 years of beheading horses... it's normal for him now. Ya know? He came to terms with all the bad feelings a loooong time ago. ----- So I think Erika knew from the beginning. That's why she isn't showing the normal shock, horror, and anger ON BEHALF of the victims, and she isn't trying to find ways to make reparations or help them somehow. She knew about their suffering and it's old news in her heart. ------ And ultimately, I think Erika was Tom's downfall. Erika wanted to be a superstar and demanded that he fund her music and lifestyle. And to most men, their wife's happiness is everything to them. I think Tom went too far to keep Erika happy. :( I feel more bad for Tom than Erika because (while he committed horrible crimes), I think he was being emotionally manipulated by Erika. He wouldn't have done all this if he was married to more laid-back housewife like Kyle or Dorit. ---- Of course, I feel 1000x worse for the victims they both stole from
Could it be because of the Loan Lisa got from Erica that - at this stage I don’t think the women know about? 😅 rinna is a mega flopper, desperate to be liked by all!
Well said, she really stirred the pot and threw Sutton under the bus at the dinner, then at the showroom was like ‘why are you mad Sutton, what did I do? I’ve been a really good friend’🙄
@@beautywinsfails8867 You know I’m sick of them allowing Sutton to stand alone and they not coming to her defense except Garcell. Sutton wasn’t the only one that said she consulted a lawye. What I don’t understand is why dorit is getting a pass for saying and doing the same thing appears to me they all are surface friends and not being truthful allowing Sutton to be the fall girl 👧! Erica snarling at her like a rabid animal not a good look when your accused of stealing from children and poor families. Why don’t Kyle say something about that she was in the room 🤦♀️. I hope you have a great day and weekend!
She can threaten all she wants to....they sign contracts not to sue anyone back when Paul and Adrienne were pissed at crazy Brandi for revealing that their son was a test tube baby or whatever he was.
I wish Sutton would have looked at EJ after she made that final threat and said “I think you are a liar.” Seriously, Erika! You have so many problems and Sutton calling you a liar is what you choose to focus on? EJ and Tom have concocted this elaborate story and she is terrified that Sutton’s questions will expose the truth.
Rinna making up excuses to be mad at Garcelle proved to me she has no need on the show anymore. She can’t find a storyline to save her life. The only anger she could find was about someone not double thanking her 😐 Bye Rinna.
She wasn’t speaking of his health issues. And if he is so sick why would he be out there during if he doesn’t know anything? Lisa is a fool. And she has no ones back
I thought Tom had no money and his mental capacity was diminished, so how would he sue Sutton? And then to say, “I’m coming after you” to Sutton ... it makes it seem like Erika has more money than she’s speaking of and may try to sue Sutton ... allegedly.
I wish Sutton would have looked at EJ after she made that final threat and said “I think you are a liar.” Seriously, Erika! You have so many problems and Sutton calling you a liar is what you choose to focus on? EJ and Tom have concocted this elaborate story and she is terrified that Sutton’s questions will expose the truth.
Exactly. So you are unable to adequately account for millions of dollars of trust money, may or may not have loaned or given millions to your wife, have no money left for the victims, but you're going to use what you DO have left to sue someone that questions your mental competency? Ok.
Legit terrifying. She’s like that ultimate mean girl in high school that you would hold your breath if she walked by… & god forbid if you accidentally.. or she purposely bumped into you … it was a 100% heart attack knowing the wrath that would follow, letting you know what a POS Loser you are, and what a powerful badass Bi*** she was. So gross.
So true. Surprised Garcelle looked to Lisa to have her back when she saw the phonyness with their mutual friend. Girlll don't look to these ladies to have your back fight your own battles or trust Christ to.
If I was Sutton I would have just laughed ....that was the most hilarious thing . Erika is lying about a lot. Rinna only has the back of whoever signs her checks and in this case Bravo she has to keep the pot brewing.
PK is right on point. I’ve been thinking Erica needs to humble herself she’s too mean and they will drag her like she deserves to be dragged. Disgusting human beings
I love how you people get all self righteous online knowing you nasty muppets have so many of your own rotten apples in a cheap wire dollar tree basket.
@@Rue08211 I love you fake victims especially you hideous ones because your strongest trait is reversing the topic because it makes it easier not to look at you and your numerous faults. Whether physical or mental... I feel bad for the one that actually wants to marry you
Lol correct. PK said legs open in the air. LMAO. Crisis Management is needed. Erika should be careful Sutton is slow to boil. When she does she will have her army
Kathy was responsible to shut Erika down immediately when she threatened Sutton but she didn't because she's a snooze fest !!! She was the host so it was on her.
I love how Kathy took charge of the situation!! Erika is trying to deflect all the attention over the thefts - how can she look in the mirror??? She is not a friend to anyone - even herself!!!
Garcelle doesn’t “think” Rinna doesn’t have her back, she KNOWS Rinna doesn’t have her back. Not only that she KNOWS Rinna is waiting for her back to be turned before she plunges her knife deep. She wasn’t drunk. She was aware enough to tell Erika to reign it in
They should stop cowering around Erika. That just fuels her. When she said "I'm about to loose my shit...", I would've said "OR WHAT?" Whachu gon do??? Answer: Nothing.
I was liking Kathy but I'm starting to feel like she is okay with Erika whether she's guilty or not ...Kathy cares about appearances but not the actual morality of her friends
I think that was a setup…she’s going to take all of what Garcelle said back to Erika. Then try and make Garcelle be accountable, the way Kyle did Sutton.
@@thepurpleone5959 oh well if that is Lisa's plan...she got the right one! Garcelle ain't afraid of these ladies...if Garcelle says it once...she'll say it twice!
She also walked over to Erika after Sutton left and said “sorry erika” while handing her kathys dog so yes she knew exactly what went down that night. Rinna is a liar and a hypocrite
Yet, she allowed that mob wife wannabe to cuss and threaten another one of her guest. That's crazy. I'm giving the questionably great Kathy Hilton a side eye.
Erika is such a bully, she really intimidates all the cast members who quietly Cowers away. It's a shame really. Humbleness never killed anyone, especially with what Erika is facing right now.🤦
You’re coming for whom? FOR WHOM? WITH WHAT? She deals with the Mafia now? She gone drag her, Monique? This woman is disgusting and this dinner and the preview of the next episode SHOW that she’s clearly trying to confirm every single one of Tom’s alibi
I wish Sutton would have looked at EJ after she made that final threat and said “I think you are a liar.” Seriously, Erika! You have so many problems and Sutton calling you a liar is what you choose to focus on? EJ and Tom have concocted this elaborate story and she is terrified that Sutton’s questions will expose the truth.
Ooooh! Giiiiirl... THE TENSION 😝😝😝 Finally, Sutton isn't the only one speaking out. This is what I was waiting for!! Erika feels absolutely NOTHING for the poor victims. PK knows EXACTLY how to sum up Erika's situation. 🙌
Lisa can’t stand Garcelle. Ever since Garcelle brought up how her dancing naked might make her daughter have body issues she’s been burnt. She knows Garcelle was 100% right and she’s still mad.
Erika just showed her alliance with Tom by threatening Sutton that Tom would sue her (even if he never would.. just using him as a weapon shows they are on same team here). Thats not the words of an estranged wife going through bitter divorce; this is just more evidence they are strategizing every step of the way together.
Pk hit the nail on the head and Rina just don't know when to stop act. More and more I am convinced that Rina took some of that money for the daughter's business which is why she have to shut up and not speak against Ericka. Kylie continues to pull strings and act like you are everyone's friend. This season is revealing all of you true colors. All the best to Sutton.