No, Vusi should be one of the Government DTI advisors and they should implement some of his advice. No, he should not be the president, he will not be able say what he thinks.
Nope, I disagree, he can be a good adviser to leaders but not a political leader. Government requires patriotic, robust diplomatic and militantly smart person who will be able to take a stand against the explanation of country by imperialists.
Vusi T. is correct. South Africans need a President who doesn't care whether you like me. SA needs a lot of solid recontraction. Two of them can rule. SA G can be a Vice President for Vusi😅 Or V. Can be a Vice President for G. Yes, The New party will be V&G Glory; both can do much better for South Africans. Yeah, keep speaking, Mr. Vusi. South African Government is sucked right now ppl hate to hear the truth. Look at Down Town JHB is that what Winnie Mandela was fighting for? Ahh, ANC brought Shameful to SA. Thank to Mr G for this powerful interview
Excellent. Two level headed legends who care deeply about this country. Amazing how this often comes with such resistance. Great conversation, thanks for making it happen.
Its easy to criticize when you are setting on the spectators chair, if you think you are that leader the the cloves and get into the ring and after five year repeat what you said, and match that with what happened. Its difficult to be a leader in Afrika when you have the hand of the colonizer still at play behind the seen, you can criticize but think about it change the colonial system, you may have sanctions please the colonizer then revolt or coup d'état . What happened to Gaddaffi , Robert Mogabe, Chris Hani, and Samorah Marshel just to mention the few? think about it red pill or blue pill each have its own results. Vusi is dancing to the white music then the DJ will reward him, they pick the best and bring them within there circle and control and keep a close watch to them , the brain of this guy is good if he met Chris Hani and Mama Winnie today he will be the most hated black person by the white man
Vusi, Cliff excellent talk show. Vusi is a very well and intelligent speaker including Gareth. Vusi is an excellent leader. But needs a major change. Our low and jobless people need to see and understand this. The problem is most of our low jobless income people don't get these messages. We need effective media communication without the ANC mafia blocking the media. People's eyes should be open to see where this government is heading. WAKE UP SOUTH AFRICA!!!!!!!!!!
I felt a bit emotional when Gareth said he will not leave South Africa because it's home and he can make the most difference here. You can see Vusi is checked out and whether SA survives or not he has made plans to not only survive but thrive outside of the country but who can blame him. I think a lot of South Africans are idealists and don't want to abandon the ship because we believe in the incredible potential of this country but the truth is you have to be a realist like Vusi and start preparing and put your life jacket on because the ship is definitely sinking.
but that's exactly what EFF wants to make South Africa like. crime free within a year. Advancing our civilization. The only reason some middle class and some rich people fear in them is that they don't subscribe to the existing power structures that are remnants of apartheid spatialization ANC BEE. So, you've got apartheid apologists and BEE beneficiaries (both minorities) trying to protect what they have at the expense of everyone else.
No need to get woke, we all want a working country, if your fellow black isn't doing that, there is absolutely no need to keep voting for him. You can't keep on voting for people who are not working just because you want to stay loyal to the color of your skin. @@FBA.TonYahu6704
No matter how tough it gets please dont stop what you are both doing. You have no idea how much you breath oxygen into our future. You are both appreciated beyond measure.
When you speak your truth, you are called a "clever black". It's a phrase coined for those that dare speak their minds. Continue speaking your truth, it's needed in SA and the world.
its like as blacks we must all conform and have a lifetime commitment to not be critical thinkers, basically stay dumb...and we allow daft pple to convince us of this sh!t🚮
South africa 🇿🇦 Is The Only Country in the world where all races & Ethnic Groups can Live Together in Harmony. This Country as a a living Soul. Not even the USA can come close. Black leader should humble themselves and learn from the Afrikaaner how they lift their people out of poverty. This happened in this country less than 100years ago.
Vusi we need you, I m a white 74yr old lady and we need you. We can have a new appartheid: the good and the bad, no more colours. Someone with good intelligence and who takes no nonsense! We can make another Orania, for those who just want to take the good of our country. There are so many who are stil wating for the good new SA, but will never have it, it's getting stolen from them by a corrupt few..stand strong we need you....God bless you!!.
This conversation needs to be on every South African television set. The thoughts and opinions expressed here are an example of what happens when competence is valued over popularity. Thanks Gareth for not shying away from the tough conversations, and thank you Vusi for being a shinning light. I hope the overall message of this conversation reaches as many people as possible!
Its easy to criticize when you are setting on the spectators chair, if you think you are that leader the the cloves and get into the ring and after five year repeat what you said, and match that with what happened. Its difficult to be a leader in Afrika when you have the hand of the colonizer still at play behind the seen, you can criticize but think about it change the colonial system, you may have sanctions please the colonizer then revolt or coup d'état . What happened to Gaddaffi , Robert Mogabe, Chris Hani, and Samorah Marshel just to mention the few? think about it red pill or blue pill each have its own results. Vusi is dancing to the white music then the DJ will reward him, they pick the best and bring them within there circle and control and keep a close watch to them , the brain of this guy is good if he met Chris Hani and Mama Winnie today he will be the most hated black person by the white man
This is one black man that i can listen to all day long, as black man myself. Im not stuck in stupid political hype, not at all. Thats just me, and im so glad that i dont wait for any politician to come with new words from his delusioned political dictionary to hype me. You go Vusi. Thanks Gareth for your imput and making this possible. ❤
I have watched this interview/ discussion twice. These two gentlemen are top class. Vusi is phenomenal and we are so very lucky that Gareth is not leaving SA, he is right, he is definitely needed here. ❤ This is by far my favorite interview ❤
Thank you Gareth , for bringing this man on your show. Vusi , You should have been President of SA. Your terminology , problem solving , intellect , analysis and ideology is amazing. Not to mention , your calmness and humbleness. I think Vusi would be the greatest leader SA would have ever seen. I would be thrilled and happy to work under his supervision and leadership. Lord , please make this man president.
Vusi & Gareth spoke like two siblings relaxing in the lounge who both have influence nationally who came home and want to share their views and thoughts before they leave again. How they finish eachothers sentences and fill in words sounds like a bromance for a lifetime of knowledge. Like David and Jonathan in the holy scriptures. Good stuff ya'll.
@LeonardOost1980 Yeah, and who is he speaking to, you? Have you heard the expression 'God helps those who help themselves' Vote to get rid of the ANC Lets not waste any more time waiting for a holy rescue, it ain't gonna happen!!
The mere fact that Vusi does not have a political agenda but the ability to understand the direction which this country should be following. It would be interesting to see him debate Julius Malema to see how he deals with this character. South Africa needs to consider this young man for Presidency.
Its easy to criticize when you are setting on the spectators chair, if you think you are that leader the the cloves and get into the ring and after five year repeat what you said, and match that with what happened. Its difficult to be a leader in Afrika when you have the hand of the colonizer still at play behind the seen, you can criticize but think about it change the colonial system, you may have sanctions please the colonizer then revolt or coup d'état . What happened to Gaddaffi , Robert Mogabe, Chris Hani, and Samorah Marshel just to mention the few? think about it red pill or blue pill each have its own results. Vusi is dancing to the white music then the DJ will reward him, they pick the best and bring them within there circle and control and keep a close watch to them , the brain of this guy is good if he met Chris Hani and Mama Winnie today he will be the most hated black person by the white man
Vusi is theeee MAN ,NOT ONE PARLIAMENTARY GUY WILL TAKE VUSI ON , HE TOO AVANCED ,EDUCATED & OUTSPOKEN TO BE CHALLENGED .THERE ARE POLITICIANS WHO DARE NOT TAKE ON VUSI CAUSE OF HIS INTERLECT .
Two of the most erudite & articulate minds South Africa has to offer. Thank you to the both of you for valiantly telling THE TRUTH. This conversation adds to the belief that there still is hope. ❤🙌🏾
Vusi you a young clever man with a lot to offer this country. Please don't stop talking about this useless people running our country and breaking it down until there will be ..... left. It's sad but it is what it is this country is going down and at a very fast rate.
I've said it before, and I will say it again. Vusi for President!!!! Such a bright man! C'mon Vusi, you can save this beautiful country of ours. I admire you so much. Keep at it.
I just love these two gents, they are not scared to speak their minds (which are very open, realistic and direct) ... In all my time I have been following Mzalwane, for him to be asked a question and is silent for more than 15 sec IYOH, the anticipation of what he was going to say SHO, (one could hear the gears grinding in his head) and to true Vusi expectation when he opens his mind it blows you away ... Bottom line it who we put into positions of management that would steer this ship on a different course ...
Thank you for your honesty Vusi. We as SA’ns cannot continue to led by the worse of us. I hope with the 2024 elections SA’ns will boot out the ANC with the objective to reboot our country. We need to love our children and country more that these self serving cadres who continue to shame us.
They say "careful what you wish for" In good faith, I tell you, this is one of those times! The depression that will haunt many of us when we realize the scope of the work needed to save Africa!
Just love you Mr. Thembekwayo! Making so much sense packed into such a small timeframe! And not least to Gareth's prowess in asking the questions that matters. Wish there was a way to get an average man on the street ( like me) version to the masses... I hope for the Titanic in my lifetime,to see the ANC sink and all those South Afrikans with investment capital step in and gets us going towards an exciting real SA future!
Vusi and Cliff, we love you, we love your brains, passion and willingness to be here while you can be elsewhere, as part of the young generation of this country, we will continue the fight to fix this country from whatever is bound by from the past and present. We are here to stay, to live and strive, equally and fairly! It’s only a matter of time.
As a young south african i fully understood what the coversation was about . It was about saving a country that one of a kind trying to create a better environment for it to thrive but the key factor is that the only way it can servive is by letting it either burn or start smoke until the alarms go of and looking at what happens when these action accure.
The majority of people in South Africa, who carry the most votes, does not have a clue of what you just talked about. Most people just don't understand or care to listen. Keep up the good work.
A wonderful hero of this country! I have listened to numerous talks Vusi, the country loves you! Very powerful, very true! Who cares? We know who we are, what we stand for and what we want! Blessings🕯🕯
Powerful conversation from these two great South Africans. Thing is we dont vote for an individual to lead us, we vote for a party which will vote for a leader "from them" to run the country. Question is, with all been said, which political party can take us to the promised land?
Imagine Mr Thembekwayo and Mr Cliff running this beautiful country together... South Africa would rise again from the ashes and thrive. I honestly believe these two gentlemen are the Chosen. Lead us Guys...
Vusi, hang in there, there is an entire generation that will follow you. The days of the past and the Cadres are coming to an end. Lines are being drawn and the landscape is changing.
The clarity of this discussion, the precision of the arguments on realistic topics.... it's mind boggling!! Unfortunately this level of intelligence only breeds frustration in a country where mediocrity is applauded. Thank you gentlemen for confirming that I'm not insane.
Listen to that beautiful fluent English...well educated n smart people like Mr vusi should regroup with other smart people that are around n set up yourls party . We would vote yourl to b our government....another man of wise words ...god bless
loved this conversation opened my eyes to much Vuzi Im a follower and have a annomous respect for you SA needs intelligent folks like you to be healed may God bless you always please run fot office
What a FANTASTIC discussion between 2 amazing young men. Vusi is such a shining example to the youth of today in South Africa and the world. Gareth for years you've been more honest and open about SA and her good and bad. THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR BEAUTIFUL LAND.
Great interview!! Thanks for making it happen!!! I too am a entrepreneur with a few companies wondering and waiting for the magic to appear. Until then we bring hope. We all are broken , thats how we have let the light inside! Lovit thanks Vusi!
Thanks Gareth for being a soul of light. From the days of seeing you at the old SABC booth when I did some interviews with Paul Mtirara to now - watching you grow and develop into a human who wants to add value and make a difference. You are doing it. You are appreciated. Vusi thanks for being courageous in speaking up and out. Continue gents to lead by example. People are watching and learning. ❤❤❤
Gareth, cudos to you for your last statement, "this is where I need to be to make a difference". I solute you for what you are doing, having the difficult conversations. It was such a pleasure to me to hear such an eloquent educated converdstion 🙏🏻
Wow this interview was super inspiring!🥳🏆 we love you both 💚Vusi and Gareth. 💛 maybe SA must hit rockbottom, possibly 2025? Only when the sick corrupt structures are demolished, only then can we start to rebuilt. Until then, we get ready, prepare ourselves but you cannot built on the rot. Must first remove it. It will hurt, but in the longterm thats the way forward. Maybe it happens differently, for now thats how i see it going. 🙏🌿
Mind blowing, awesome first interview ive ever passionately and patiently listened ti from these two compariots and patriots. SA is richly blessed with such guys
Great depth of thoughts, wisdom shared, I was inspired by the interview with Vusi. A true visionary, orator and industrialist of our lifetime. But it is a pitty he is despondent just like I am, lost epitite to drive change and performance. His right the first thing we as citizen can do Is to switch power, change leadership and give them a mandate to govern within, consequence to underperforming officials. No one should be entitled to a position if they fail to deliver, that's how a functional system should uphold.
I've learned a lot from these two guys. I used to dislike Gareth back in his 5FM days, but seeing how he's grown over time, I might give him a chance. The interview was really inspiring.
Thanks guys......I loved this and seriously appreciate the time you took to discuss this at a "next level" other than the everyday pattern of thought that we are fed by the "captured media". Good on you guys! You've given me renewed HOPE and just wish that more sportsmen, actors, businessmen, community leaders would speak out as you do.
