Garmin inReach VS. ZOLEO (Satellite Communicators)

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Garmin has seemingly had a monopoly on the satellite communicator market for outdoor athletes. Recently, Zoleo has joined in on the competition with a device that is a great balance of value for price. On a recent hunt, Marcus Hockett took it to compare it against the Garmin inReach mini who the cameraman, Michael Parente, brought with.
So they were able to do a side by side comparison while in the middle-of-nowhere Idaho. Having never heard of Zoleo before, Marcus is pleasantly surprised as it holds it own at a much lower price point and has some benefits on the monthly pricing plan as well.
The inReach has live tracking, allowing friends and family to constantly be tracking where in the world you are. The Zoleo has an update feature where you can share your location, but it doesn't do it automatically all the time. Depending on your needs, Zoleo might be worth the money savings.
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@whiteout99 3 года назад

Used a Zoleo on my hunt this year. Worked greaat and was way cheaper than even a used Garmin. I'm very happy with it.

@rcschlieper 3 года назад

Is it easy to share your location with other members of your hunting party? Lat and long copied to Onx?

@whiteout99 3 года назад

@@rcschlieper you can send them your coords through the app but they have to input to onx seperately

@TRUTHISABSOLUTE777 Месяц назад

Does garmin do that?

@Raevenswood 2 года назад

Zoleo updated their firmware and it does live tracking now 👍

@ninoripepi1218 2 года назад

Is that for an additional $6 per month, right? Seems like a good deal if that is something you want.

@Raevenswood 2 года назад

@@ninoripepi1218 yep 👍

@coolhawk2003 2 года назад

@@Raevenswood so you can send unlimited txt with your cell and when cell has no signal? is that right, thanks

@NWPURSUIT 3 года назад

With the inreach you can select month to month plans. Use it during hunting season then don't renew it again until you need it. No cancelation fees or monthly fees for not using it.

@Raevenswood 2 года назад

If you average the lower cost of zoleo service in general with the only 4$ a month they charge to deactivate until you need it again it is still a lot cheaper than the inreach service especially taking into account that the inreach mini costs 350$ vs 200$ for the zoleo. Higher start up cost plus Garmin also tacks on additional monthly charges to unlock the ability to deactivate it when you aren’t using it … about 15$ a month more for each level of service they provide. If you use it for 5 months of the year that’s 75$ extra vs deactivating zoleo for 7 months at 4$ a month it’s less than 30$. Zoleo can also be canceled completely and you can reactivate later you just won’t keep the same phone number. The only catch with zoleo is they lock you into 2 months of introductory service so you can’t just sign up for one trip and then cancel within the first month but it’s still cheaper in the long run anyway for most users.

@harvmac69 2 года назад

Thanks! You sealed my purchase for the Zoleo! haha!

@ScotWalt858 3 года назад

Nice review! Thanks!!

@marklemmon8057 3 года назад

The new Garmin Montana is available with InReadh and is really a great unit Because it gives you the sat capability plus the gps mapping, love mine!

@naomi2043 2 года назад

No one voluntarily off grid needs an unlimited messaging plan in the first place. Zoleo's the way to go. Great review. Thanks!

@Bneumanns124 3 года назад

Can't put a price on peace of mind! Love my inReach.

@jameshurd8657 3 года назад

I have the inreach mini and I love it!!

@drewrichards3013 3 года назад

I picked up a Zoleo just before the 2020 elk season and I’ve been very happy with it.

@Fresh_Tracks 3 года назад

Glad to hear it!

@nz0z134 Год назад

Spot has been in the game for 10+ years

@ahhhhhderf1 3 года назад

What’s up with reviews saying the inreach takes 6 hours sometimes to send a text? Have they fixed that? I’m leaning towards the inreach but multiple reviews have said the same thing.

@ericwiitala5407 3 года назад

I'm going to have to get something just for the fall. Thanks for the info.

@dakine9445 3 года назад

Mine works in my tent and not horrible in light cloud coverage. But definitely want clear sky for fast message relay

@dpm6000 3 года назад

I've had a Spot for a while and it seems to work well enough but I'm always looking for better options, especially when it comes to pricing. Hoping Starlink will revolutionize this industry.

@DaveNorona 3 года назад

The thing that sucks about spot it not their devices, it is that they use globalstar which has 1/3 the satellites so it takes way longer for messages to come in and send and lots of blackout spots

@mdtnak 3 года назад

@@DaveNorona I was curious as to the drawbacks of the Spot, as it does offer a pricing advantage over the IN reach and inherent functional advantages over the Zoleo. Would love more perspective on this.

@williamfeldner9356 3 года назад

Love my Garmin

@npaden1 3 года назад

Actually if you are only going to use it for a month or two the InReach is cheaper. You pay a $25 annual subscription with comes out to just over $2 a month vs. $4 a month for the Zoleo. I use the safety plan which is only $15 per month on the InReach and never have an issue going over my limit because the preset text messages "just checking in, everything is okay" are free and don't count against your quota. So if I hunt 2 months it costs $55 per year with the InReach vs. $80 for the Zoleo. $25 per year less would have paid for the difference in the cost of the unit over the 5 years I've owned my Inreach.

@mdtnak 3 года назад

Not sure where you see $25 for In-Reach flex fee, as what I am looking at states $35 [discover.garmin.com/en-US/inreach/personal/#subscriptions], but even then IN reach comes out ahead in your example. Maybe Garmin just bumped up the Flex-Plan fee this year? That said, your point is right spot on. In terms of a 2M stint, IN reach is cheaper than Zoleo at a 3M, even if you cancel Zoleo instead of pay the additional $36 to maintain for the remaining 9 months.

@npaden1 3 года назад

@@mdtnak They raised the fee $10 since my post. They hadn't raised that fee for several years before that.

@dunningkruger6075 2 года назад

Zoleo has a live tracking option now.

@birdwrangler 3 года назад

Don't bet your life on one of these devices. In the Missouri Breaks our inreach took 6+ hours to send a message, unbeknownst to us. It turned a rough, but non emergency event with our crew into a life threatening situation. Even with the cool gadgets, be prepared for the worst!

@mattp1379 3 года назад

This fall the inreach has been terrible, I've had mine for 5 years and never had a problem until this year. The tech person I spoke to told me it was do to a software issue but I was fully upgraded to the current edition so I don't know what the problem was but there were three of us and we were all together and it was taking 12 hours for messages to get to one another from inreach to inreach. Definitely some issues going on.

@Natural-Causes 2 года назад

When you send a message are they time stamped?

@ericanhorn811 3 года назад

How is the battery life in the Zoleo in extremely cold weather? Or have you not tested that as of yet? That would be great to know, as in Canada it can get really cold in November and sometimes below -20.

@stephenboyer8209 2 года назад

Use it diamond drilling in -40 up north. Good to go. The Zoleo

@jimstrampe7313 3 года назад

How do they compare with SOS services and any rescue insurance plans offered?

@DaveNorona 3 года назад

They are the exact same, both go to geos call center then to search and rescue, and yes insurance can be bought for either.

@ddff5242 3 года назад

can you explain how inreach is more if suspended? How i read it garmin would be less expensive while suspended.... Garmin just has an annual 25 dollar "flex fee" but no monthly suspension fee. In other words, with the zoleo, the $4 suspension fee equates to almost $50 per year while garmin is only 25? Am i missing something?

@mdtnak 3 года назад

Zoleo requires a 3M minimum, so the suspension fee would be $36 for the remaining 9 months. That said, you don't have to suspend Zoleo and can cancel. Their activation fee is less than the 9-month suspension fee, so they do not incentivize suspension, whereas Garmin does. The best price you can get out of the Zoleo plan is $80, which is a 3M basic plan. That is the same with Garmin [$80 for 3M on basic]. Where Garmin comes out ahead is when people only need it for 1 or 2 months.

@FluffyBuzzard2TheMax 3 года назад

Never heard of zoleo, the inreach explorer would be perfect if it accepted the onx chip

@zrig1 3 года назад

iNreach has a month to month option. Just buy what you want. No need for a yearly subscription rate. From their web page: Enrollment in Freedom plans is subject to a $24.95 annual fee. A Freedom plan's minimum term is 30 days. New 30-day minimum applies to changed Freedom plans. No charge applies to changing a Freedom plan. Service can be suspended 1 month at a time at no charge. User retains access to inReach data stored on the Garmin Explore™ portal while account is suspended. Selected plan auto-renews monthly unless user changes account selections in the Garmin Explore portal. So if Zoleo charges 4 bucks a month during suspension they are actually more expensive in the long run.

@evelandjd5111 3 года назад

My nine year old son and seven year old daughter take care of the backcountry advanced communication during hunting season. They ride their respective horses to the trailhead and leave a paper and pen note folded neatly under my iPad in the pickup truck cab.

@micaelaiphys 3 года назад

Just an aside...SPOT was the first company to start with satellite messengers. Garmin followed later. 😉

@spforsupergringo1980 2 года назад

Zoleo now has a feature for tracking available

@lekistick1013 3 года назад

I want asynchronous communication between two devices. So my question is: can one zoleo ping a second zoleo in order to locate that second zoleo? Is so, I'll buy it. The inReach will not ping a second inreach. In order to locate the second inReach device, the user of the second device has to send out a message to the first. Not very handy at all.

@codoug777 3 года назад

I believe you can do that with the Basemap app for your phone via Location Sharing.

@jaykingsun7093 2 года назад

What is that device you had your phone in?

@daverichardson4183 3 года назад

Awesome, l was thinking of getting a Garmin. Now I have more choices. Thanks @Marcus_Hoccect and @randynewberg

@robward290 3 года назад

I use the SpotX. Mainly for the cost and options to use only when I need it. Would be interesting to compare the SpotX against the garment and zoleo. Thanks for the info!

@amybradley5821 3 года назад

Had a Spot but uses an inferior “network” messages didn’t go through well. Love my Zoleo now.

@USAFTACP 3 года назад

Question about the Zoleo, can someone get ahold of you without you contacting them first? I've heard with the inreach, the user has to send initial contact to create a link so others can talk to them and that link has a self life.

@MShawn-jk9ik 3 года назад

Yes, with the Zoleo you get an SMS number and email address, so people can communicate with you without you having to message them first.

@manofsan 3 года назад

@@MShawn-jk9ik - so is the email only text email? Can you send photos with it as attachments, or anything like that?

@EdwardRaybould 2 года назад

With Garmin InReach, there is the MapShare page. If you set that up and configure it appropriately and then share the link to your MapShare page with your contacts ahead of time, then they can message you without you as the InReach user messaging them first.

@pjames12345 3 года назад

What about the SPOT devices. I had those since the first generation treated way before Garmin. So Garmin just broke up the Monopoly that was spot and spot was using a different network

@mikebjnr 3 года назад

SPOT is on the globalstar network, terrible network with very poor service quality. Garmin and ZOLEO are on the Irridium network, waaaayyy better service coverage. I have a SPOT, and a SAT phone on Irridium, the two cannot be compared.

@timaanerud 3 года назад

I’ve got a spot locator (probably got it in 2010ish). Still seems to work alright.

@woodym420 3 года назад

Doesn’t the Zoleo have some automatic GSM functionality as well?

@MShawn-jk9ik 3 года назад

The Zoleo app will work over cell or wifi if it's available, which I like because it's cheaper - just uses your cell plan if available instead of sat messages - and also means I don't miss any messages when I'm back from my hunt with the Zoleo in a drawer.

@flapjack2015 3 года назад

Whats the big thing on your phone? Is it a signal booster or camera?

@ronmathias6719 3 года назад

Hunter Norris im Curious as well

@chrisstreet1994 3 года назад

It a adapter to hook your phone to a spotting scope you can view and record what your looking at on your phone

@Brother_Lander 2 года назад

This has nothing to do with the content of the video, but I have to say: this song is banging

@raythompson6151 3 года назад

How are they powered? Batteries or need to be charged like phone? How long will a charge last?

@ZOLEOLife 3 года назад

ZOLEO has an internal rechargeable lithium ion battery that can last 200+ hours. The charging time is around 2 hours.

@raythompson6151 3 года назад

@@ZOLEOLife cool thanks

@bknott21 3 года назад

Are messages on both received and sent on your phone just like a regular text message? The device just acts as a receiver?

@NWPURSUIT 3 года назад

Yes

@InvestorAcademyPodca 3 года назад

No, you have to message through the app.

@NWPURSUIT 3 года назад

There's an app on your phone thats just like any other messaging platform just connects via Bluetooth

@MShawn-jk9ik 3 года назад

To clarify - when you type and send a message over satellite with the Zoleo device you need to use the app. The person back home will get the message over cell or wifi just like a regular email or text in whatever app they use for that, and can reply and send you messages with their regular email or text app. But they can also use the free Zoleo app if they want, without a device, you don't which is great because when you're sending messages between two Zoleo apps you can do longer messages, 1000 characters or so.

@azclaimjumper 2 года назад

Zoleo relies on the privately owned Iridium Satellite system whereas the Garmin In-Reach & the ACR ResQLink rely on the most reliable government owned satellites. Yes, I own & carry the ACR ResQLink which does only one thing better than all other PLB's --- it transmits the STRONGEST 5-Watt signal to satellites & is the brand that is Endorsed & used by the U.S. coast Guard.

@adamr8628 3 месяца назад

Garmin Inreach should cost about $100. When you compare it to other Garmin Products. I own one. And I own Garmin fish locators. My Garmins have GPS, built in maps, nice screens, fish sonar, transducers, memory cards, etc. The Inreach is even more basic than the Garmin Striker 4, and that locator costs $100-150.

@ginokappadonna 3 года назад

Inaccurate_zoleo has breadcrumb feature that's can be set at a desired interval

@Fresh_Tracks 3 года назад

That has been an added feature since the recording of this video.

@tedb.5707 3 года назад

Amazing tech. Just push a button and you have a chance at survival. My cousin's husband disappeared on a guided elk hunt in the Wyoming mountains deep in the back-country almost 45-years ago...they never found the body. The family spent nearly $100k on private searches after the rescue services gave up. No Tech, no helicopters or infrared, no radio. They suspected he was either attacked by a bear ...or suffered a diabetic incident and fell off the mountain disoriented... and maybe was dragged-away by a bear. How you lose someone on a house-mounted professionally-guided hunt??

@Fresh_Tracks 3 года назад

Wow, that's terrible. Not sure how that could happen on a guided hunt. Hope your family has healed from that loss.

@tedb.5707 3 года назад

I was in High School at the time, but parts of it never made sense. Though the impression I got from a distance (we lived on the East Coast) was first-time elk-hunting in the back country is not a manly group bonding activity for a bunch of Minneapolis dentists who weren't even good Boy Scouts. It took YEARS to have him declared and settle the estate. The consensus was that he couldn't have walked out without provisions, they were too far back in the mountains. Plus he was diabetic and didn't have his meds. Somehow the guide wasn't held responsible(!), and the family didn't even re-coup the search expenses. Local politics perhaps.... Today I doubt a reputable guide would have accepted their party in the first place.

@adamr8628 3 месяца назад

Zoleo is going to cost more in the long run , especially with the basic plan.

@Randy_Savage_ohyeah 3 года назад

Just another piece of tech to pack around. Could understand if hunting alone or in some very remote areas such as Alaska, but honestly have never felt the need for something like this.

@DaveNorona 3 года назад

Until you do need help, then your screwed, a simple fall, a grizzly attack etc, you only need to use this if the crap hits the fan. Fall and break your leg and then tell me having a device where you can let search and rescue know your injuries and where you are before they start looking for you.

@Randy_Savage_ohyeah 3 года назад

@@DaveNorona u should get one

@jeffe6338 3 года назад

Plenty of people have died in outback Australia because they get lost.I hunt and prospect in harsh country this device is invaluable.Multiple plans of action need to be available if shite hits the fan. I'm down for a Zoleo which will be good company alongside my PLB and Garmin overlander.

@Randy_Savage_ohyeah 3 года назад

@@jeffe6338 I would agree that in the situations you describe this would probably be a good thing to have.

@RP-fj3wg 3 года назад

Unfortunately I imagine women have always felt the need for this. Consider yourself lucky :) Bears, mountain lions and injury are not our only fear when out trekking alone. Big plus for all female hikers to have on the trial.

@kenrathbone3265 3 года назад

Seems as the Zooey might be a little more functional than the InReach because you could place it on your backpack and just pull your phone out and type your message while you pause on the trail, unless you have to push a button to send the text.

@NWPURSUIT 3 года назад

Works the same for the inreach

@RetLt116 3 года назад

I’ve had my ZOLEO for 6 months and have been using it in Montana without a hitch. It’s extremely well made!

@kellygill6090 2 года назад

It does work the same as the inreach but the only issue with the inreach is the message don't always transfer to the earthmate app. I had an issue on a moose hunt this year. I had to look at the inreach to see if I was receiving my messages

@CarlosRivera-rw9ho 2 года назад

The performance is similar because they both use the same satellite network.

@Wft-bu5zc 2 года назад

That's only partly true. If QC isn't good enough your unit might have issues communicating. I have heard of some issues with defective inReach, but have not (yet) heard of any defective Zoleo.

@vincentkrause7097 3 года назад

Honestly if you are not a mountain athlete who climbs Peaks in Alaska, Himalaya etc. and needs livetracking, so your team can follow your progress and start a search and rescue if you are unconsious and can´t trigger the SOS button, its basically only a design choice. Garmin is pretty good at making GPS devices good looking und functional at the same time. I could be wrong but the Zoleo looks a tiny bit heavier than the inrach Mini

@user-mh5qg5jb7d 2 года назад

Locked into a contract with the inreach? Not true. I have the inreach and you can suspend your service anytime with no monthly fee.

@8ajanice 3 года назад

Garmin inreach you can text with your phone?

@ddff5242 3 года назад

yes, you can.

@Cjtarinelli 3 года назад

The InReach basic plan CAN be suspended for no charge and there is no contract.

@ronblackburn3683 3 года назад

I use a personal locator beacon devise registered with NOAA , a government agency. It can’t be used to send messages but will report your location to the U.S. Coast Guard immediately, if activated. I use my devise in Idaho where it is registered with no annual fee.

@DaveNorona 3 года назад

yes but you can not let them know the severity of your injury or the problem you have come upon etc. , with two way text and email you can and you can also arrange your own rescue with a heli company as well if you prepare properly.

@TheIrongutz 2 года назад

@@DaveNorona PLB’s use military SAR satellites and have a lot more transmit power. Yes, you can’t text message but if you need a life saving rescue in difficult terrain a PLB is your best option. Your not going to use a PLB for a sprained ankle.

@guillermodelatorre8 2 года назад

Do they work in caves?

@Natural-Causes 2 года назад

No they need a view of clear sky, the bear will have plenty of time to eat you without interruption….lol

@fabricekds4462 3 года назад

first XD, also useful video, thanks

@gsp8489 3 года назад

Kind of sucks if your from the east and only do one trip a year you are still paying $70 a year to use it for one week. I get why they have to charge you to suspend it or else they would only make $20 a year off you but still sucks...I wish I could make more trips to make it worth it.

@NWPURSUIT 3 года назад

Just do a month to Month plan. Thats what I do. Cancel at anytime when your not using it. Then it's only a monthly contract with no cancelation fees

@gsp8489 3 года назад

@@NWPURSUIT that makes sense. Do you have to create a new account each time then?

@NWPURSUIT 3 года назад

Nope.

@manofsan 3 года назад

@@NWPURSUIT - so is that some kind of monthly pre-pay? I thought he said that you can pay $4/mo to keep the account on standby. I didn't hear where he said you have to pay extra to put it on standby. I don't quite understand how the month-to-month thing works.