Hi Tim. Thanks for sharing some stats and your thoughts going forward. Again, congratulations for your amazing run with excellent qualifying times in the last marathon. Dealing with injuries is never easy and I think you are doing the right thing doing appropriate modifications to the generic plan to suit your needs and involving a PT. I am about to run Houston marathon again in less than a month but due to my injury in November (with 3 weeks of layoff) my BQ and PR dreams will have to wait a bit more. After Houston, I am going to start a relationship with a PT as well. I already got a referral from my doctor.
Tim, great vlog. Found your analysis of your Detroit plan illuminating and a valuable process for me to use going forward. Also appreciate the review of how to build a plan in Garmin Connect. Qualifying for three US Majors - Well Done!
Hey Tim, congrats on qualifying for the three majors. Two questions for you. 1. will the Garmin connect program work with the Apple ultra watch? 2. This past year what type of strength training did you do in addition to the Garmon training program?
Hi Joseph. I don’t think it does. You can check out compatible devices here: support.garmin.com/en-GB/?faq=LpzM9cOoK49pGzXuMzdPr8 . For strength training I did all body weight exercises including planks, squats, pushups. Unfortunately I was as consistent as I should have been. Going into 2023 one of my goals is to be more intentional and consistent with my strength and mobility exercises. Have a great day. Happy New Year!
Wow I noticed your feet are really straight pointing forward and close together when you are running. You probably have an ideal Q angle. Really neat!!
Thank you very much for your detailed opinion! Is it possible to understand the difference of pace in the details of the training plan? For example, the threshold pace difference for Moderate to Hard Pace? Did you use any formula to calculate the pace of each training like VDOT or was it just by the perception of effort? Thanks again!
I don't use any formula to calculate the different paces really. It's kind of a combination of my threshold pace and how I'm feeling. One of the workouts I've been running recently is 20 min easy, 20 min steady, and 20 at threshold. I go into it with the thoughts of my easy pace being around 9:30 min mile, Steady 8:30 min mile, and threshold at 7:30 min mile. As the training block progresses my threshold pace should quicken and I'll adjust accordingly. Great question! Have a great day.
I think so. It will get you there. Some depends on how much time you have to spend working out and your overall fitness. I think it would be a safe play to go with the beginner plan though. Have a great weekend. Stay safe.
How did you determine your race pace based on this plan? With the Garmin Coach plans you train for a specific time, but with these selfguided plans it's on hearth rate, or percefed effort(you determineyour own easy and threshold pace for example), so how you go from there
I based my race pace goal off of my previous marathon time. My goal was to shave 2 minutes off. My threshold and easy pace was not an exact science. In general I ran threshold around 30 seconds slower than my 5K time and my easy pace a minute slower than my race pace goal. Great question. Have a great day. Happy New Year!
Thank you for your great videos. I'm not a greatly experienced marathon (3 under 6), but I did experience GI issues during my long runs until I started to make my own electrolyte drink and I think the secret was the cornstarch that helps regulate the sugar. I think that is why UCANN is so popular since it uses starch in it's recipe. Anyways, I learn a lot from watching your videos and looking forward to watching your Boston Marathon Training! 👍
Thanks Celeste. Thanks for keeping the conversation going. We are learning from each other. Boston will be my third marathon. I learned something new each time. I hope your training is going well. Have a great day. Stay safe.
I tried the intermediate HR based plan and two weeks in I started getting over use injury symptoms in my calf.. so I’m taking two weeks off and will try the beginner 3 day plan. (I’m a little past beginner but I guess I’m not intermediate)
I know what you're mean. I made the jump from intermediate to advanced and over did it. My next training block I will be making some changes....lol. I hope you run the rest of your training block injury free!
FYI, when setting up a Garmin plan, you can change the schedule to "Finish Date" and just pick race day. It will automatically calculate backwards to give you the first day of your plan!
Congrats on finishing Boston! Looked like terrible weather! Question about this FREEP plan-what was your base mileage in order to start? I see your first long run is times at 75 mins so I’m guessing you’re probably at least running 20 miles/wk to start this intermediate plan?
Yes so my first week was 28 miles followed by 35, 31, 42, 31, 37, 42, and 43. That was the first 8 weeks. I did miss one easy run in there somewhere that works have added 5 or 6 miles. I went golfing that day with family 🙂. I don’t have the second 8 weeks in front of me but that’s the first half mileage anyway. I hope your training is going well! Have a great day.
Tim, thanks for sharing ur experience using Garmin MTP. I got selected for TOKYO Marathon 2024 (20 wks from now) and kinda stress looking for an effective TP luckily I saw ur vlog. Tim, ur Boston finish is really impressive (im dreaming to duplicate this at Tokyo) but realistically, my goal is to finish just less than 5 hrs (Garmin Race Predictor is 5.5hrs- dont laugh) Anyway, my plan is to start with Garmin Beginners MTP after 4 weeks will transition to Intermediate MTP until the race day. Any tips moving forward to avoid risk of injury ? Another alternate strategy of mine is to combine "Beginners MTP" with "Garmin Coach Jeff Galloway HalfMTP," any thougths on this? should i stick with the original MTP
Tiiiiiimmmmm!! Great work on the Detroit Free Press Marathon! Looking forward to you crushing the majors! We can’t wait to follow along with your training! What shoes do you plan on wearing, and what shoes will you NOT be wearing?
Hey thanks Ryan. I really appreciate it. It won't be long now. I'll be starting the new training block December 27th. On Marathon day, at this point, it will likely be the original AlphaFly same as Detroit. I was really wanting to use the adidas Adios Pro 3 but the upper is giving my issues. I love the midsole ride but I'm not sure I'll have time enough to workout the problems with the comfort of the upper. During the training block, I'll be running in trail shoes for the most part, depending on the weather. Winter is here and the roads are snowy and ice covered. I like the Hoka Speedgoat 5 and the Hoka Tecton X. I won't be wearing very many daily trainers like the Novablast 3. They are to slippery. I have had some success with the Asics Gel-Nimbus 24 in winter conditions. Hey thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment. I appreciate it. Have a great day and stay safe! Happy Holidays.
