Garry Kasparov vs. Deep Blue: The Chess Battle For Humanity 

good times

@@Dducksquad lmao

@@Dducksquad My, how the turn tables

lol true

Basically AI vs brute force. Brute force is the shittiest approach you can use to solve a problem while AI in this case is the best best approach.

Ah yes, the… reverse garfield?

@@SpiceLettuce no grunfeld

@@sanukayjayawardana9786 that’s the joke, you see. It implied I was so inexperienced that I did not understand what he was saying.

@@sanukayjayawardana9786 r/woosh

I always play the modified double helix (but only if white opens with horsey jumping the mini-phallus). Fun side note: "check, mate?" is also widely used in Australia on paydays. #themoreyouknow.

so... you have chosen death

Second wtf

third wtf

fifth wtf

4th wtf...?

Yes

Same

Because they have learned from the machines as well...its insane.

Me too

@@JohannesMariaRunge it’s crazy watching these and how Garry adjusted his play so quickly to counter the deep blue’s play style. His brain took him 1 or 2 games and he knew exactly what he had to do if he wanted to win at the time. AI’s today could never be trained that quickly even with the number of ‘neuron connections’ rivaling the human brain. It’s just a cool thing to think abt i thought

Haha that’s a good one moving on

Best comment on the board.

@💯 Qwonklet 💯 a cultured one

Underrated comment

oooo kinky

I drew a horse

@@thebus3181 Why are you playing chess with your mom?

@@theinnerwaffle5887 I am confused what does this mean

@@thebus3181 he called your mom a horse

@@tristian14 Oh thanks

SAME OH MY GOD

So it can be concluded that Garry was egoistic

Skynet.

Stop yapping

​@@darkside7603 stop having low attention span

Is he a painter?

@@user-tb8lg5jo1u yup

It’s Levy Rozman, not Levi Rosman. But he is an IM, so you got that part right.

@@PianoBoyLiam its Levy Rozman not rosman ok? Its better not to mess with anyone's name

@@PianoBoyLiam sorry but i wanted to reply to the main comment, mistakenly replied urs hehe

that's some Ramsey level insult right there

Nice

They played when Magnus was 13 to a draw

I think Magnus would've won. I think that Magnus is a better player than Garry.

​@@user-bk9fk2tq2z but not with ease. They again played against each other in 2020, it ended up as draw... Magnus at his one of the best phase vs Garry at his one of the worst phase... They both are at same level but due to generation gap, Magnus is slightly better than Kasparov.

​@@user-bk9fk2tq2zAt their both absolute best Kasparov is better than Magnus

Deep blue: "It's over Garry I have the advantage" Garry: "You underestimate my power."

id say that positional play would be better than tactical considering the limited depth, it wouldnt be like today’s stockfish which can see 25 moves into the future in seconds. however, even its limited depth would be enough to counter most tactics but probably wouldnt be enough to fully gauge how powerful positional play can be. just a theory tho

humans v machines of then be like "hehe this piece of trash thinks it can play better than me?" humans v machines of now be like "teach me, sensei"

I would actually completely argue against this. My info on the situation may not be entirely accurate, but in a documentary I watched, it made a point of detailing that deep blue after the first match was specifically trained to beat Kasparov. The AI used training data from a ton of Kasparov games so he’d know how to respond to Kasparovs normal moves. Since the AI knew all his moves, Kasparov switched up his tactics and had to play differently. Not to mention, Kasparov had every right to assume his tricks that had worked in previous matches would work as the only reason they didn’t was because in between matches the ai was actively being updated, taking out any bugs and the such so he had no real choice but to refind out what he could continue to exploit and what was no longer possible. Frankly I don’t see it as overconfidence at all, I actually see the opposite. I believe that all the constant changes to deep blue, the over serialized environment, and the inability to use his comfortable play style had given Kasparov a ton of anxiety causing him to play not at the top of his game, leading to his constant resignations and loss.

Thanks

Really wanted to like the comment but i prefer 69 likes. Nice

You are wrong in some points, Stockfish are more human. Human didn't remember the position and play by memories, maybe they remember openings, but not for the middle game thinking. Human think like Stockfish, finding what way to win the game, evaluating if the move is good or not.

​@@aldoyudhistira5424Humans are more half and half and theres good saying that shows this, "Play the opening like a book, the middlegame like a magician, and the endgame like a machine". Humans in the endgame are like stockfish, they brute force calculate and remember winning scenarios, but in the middlegame, humans *need* to play intuitively. If your opponent is much weaker than you, then ofc you can just brute force it, but when youre of equal skill, esp at high levels of play, you arent going to out calculate your opponent, you need to be able to jsut understand and recognize winning patters through intuition, which is what AlphaZero does.

@@adbon6279 alright, agree then.

Effective breathing you say? Surely, this must be a JoJo reference!

Next up on Gotham chess: How to beat a treadmill.

Quality comment

@Usemilter bro but.. idfc

Total concentration breathing?

timestamp?

@@jaydenp3078 30:34

@@jaydenp3078 30:11 for context

i once drew a wolf. suprisingly i didn't get eaten for dinner

@@marcuspoosz2190 you drew a wolf in a fight? In that case you'd both be dead

Yeah, but nowadays nobody can beat AlphaZero. Carlsen has been begged to play it countless times but never accepted because it would only result in him losing.

@@edoardoprevelato6577 Not playing an engine because you’re going to lose? It’s not like you’re going to lose rating right?

Deep Blue is not stronger than Deep Blue

@@prohz9129 because it’s pointless. He can’t win his smartphone chess app, nevermind alpha zero.

@@prohz9129 If you go into a game knowing you're 100 percent not only going to lose but be embarrassed at the same time, the only thing that will come of it is frustration and a potential loss of dignity. In other words, it would be stupid to. Would you personally do it in his place, for the entire world to analyze?

Me too!!!😊

speak for yourself it's 2023 for me

@@unflexian yeah, what a nerd

It's 2024 now.

it is 2024 lol

Não esperava vc por aqui

@@vycthorjhonson6624 no

Thank you for suggesting it!

When he's like "my computer is still debating a draw in this position" DUDE YOUR COMPUTER IS LIKE 30 YEARS MORE ADVANCED, I understand kasparovs frustration more lol

boa corno

Was it really that hard to spell Garry right?

@@valguthcsongor5263 it’s a fucking joke you nonce

@@valguthcsongor5263 no his name is Gary Chess and he invented Chess in the 90’s

@@valguthcsongor5263 Good thing he spelled Kasparov correctly

@@valguthcsongor5263 You spent Gary wrong, do your homework before you correct people. His real name is "Gary Chess", he was a close friend of the famous biologist Zangiuli L. and his biggest achievement was inventing chess.

Hey pretty lady!

RIP LEVY

He isn't honouring the hoodie guy

Gary is playing Deep Blue. His shirt is a deep blue color. Coincidence? I think not.

It’s a shiny Levy

@@TheDecree93 yes the regular levy is pink hoodie

The USA with drones in Afghanistan: Hold my beer!

chess: friendly fire on

@@Smitology WHERE'S MY LASAGNA JOHN?

Would be kind of cool if you could as long as you couldn't be forced to. Imagine the SuperGM self-sacs

there's a variant which allows you to do so

Funny story was that after Kasparov resigned Game 1 he asked the engineer what he could have done better and the engineer was like "uhhhhh..."

@@Nolaris3 like a 400 hiding behind stockfish beating a good player online today

@@VoidLantadd except he made a fucking chess engine in the 1990s so definitely several magnitudes of IQ higher than ur average cheater

As a guy that blundered his queen early on in a Scandinavian Defense against the 700 bot because I didn't feel like using my brain on Nelson or whoever the 1500 bot is, I felt this much more than I should.

We guess your comment deserves to be pin ..pin of shame chain

I am a 300 player, i sacrifice queen to take a pawn...

Youre gay

and even more quickly than how I finish on my queen 😏

😂😂😂👍👍👍

Again huh 😂😂

We love the CONTENT WE LOVE ITTTT

LULW

@Jannes Ebeling shut up nerd

Levy

@@chikachinedum3073 Леви

Mandator reply saying something stupid Cripple glasses man

Thank you Levy‼️‼️

HEYYY, HE DID YOUR SUGGESTIONNN

*insert mandatory comment here*

It depresses me and makes me want to quit chess, I mean, why bother?

@@rodrigornovaes you should play chess only because you want to

Gotta get dem laps in

Yes.

Seriously if we don't get this video I'm going to be very upset

2022: AlphaGo Chess Edition vs Dewa Kipas

Hahahaha this is golden

For 7000 dollars

He was probably using the 🐟

-My parents after reproducing

Me at the corner of the hood

@@radekstejskal9127 lmao

@@radekstejskal9127 rip

Its true modern hand held calculators have more computing power then a room full of computers like 60yrs ago

@@noobiamyes4853 the 1990s weren't 60 years ago, I hope you know that

@@killerbug05 computers were invented in ww2

@@noobiamyes4853 fuck you on about bro?

@@vinaylalwani im not talking about strictly chess like 60 yrs ago they had rooms stuffed with computers has less proccesing power then a calculator

He still isn't I mean it isn't a preference where the classification is instant, he is going to be competing but not yet so technically he isnt competing

@@gordonramsdale stfu

@Nate Bekin I’m not talking about what he said, I’m just getting annoyed at his broken English, if you’re gonna troll somebody at least learn how to speak.

@@nado7592 If you got annoyed by their broken English you got trolled lmao, they did their job perfectly

@@theblinkingbrownie4654 you do realise that he is 100% being serious, but hes just an idiot and bad at english?

Magnus can😂

@@remarkgulane3851 big can

@Simone Miglioli He won the first time but lost the second time, that calls for a third time.

Kasparov lose the rematch though ..such a shame coz the much anticipated 3rd rematch never took place and it affected Kasparov quite a bit i think so lol

I know but he can: treadmill

Stockfish still use brute force, I don’t know what you’re talking about

@@fos1451 Stockfish uses a much smarter brute force - it doesn’t check literally every possible line, it’s much better at saving computational power by only checking the best lines (this is called alpha beta pruning). This comes with the consequence that it still can’t solve some niche positions where a sacrifice has really long term benefits

@@somebodyuknow2507 Didnt deep blue do this too? It's mostly just a difference of computing power.

@@somebodyuknow2507 Move pruning has been in use since the late 70s. Algorithms have gotten better, yes, but the essential approach is still exactly the same. The only thing not "brute force" about modern stockfish (since 2020) is it's evaluation function (so the function that determines the final value of a position at the end of a tree branch). It uses machine learning, but that's it.

Me

What's the last serious official human vs computer game?

@@mujtabaalam5907 hans niemann vs magnus carlsen

@@abyssmage6979 Normally that joke would be funny, but Chess youtubers have accelerated things and "Hans Niemann cheated against Magnus" jokes are already unfunny

@@mujtabaalam5907 I know I'm late, but I think Kramnik vs Deep Fritz 2006 might be it.

So sick I saw that comment too

It was the Garry Kasparov vs kid Magnus Carlsen

Yes I was about to thank Levy, it's the second time he takes my suggestion! :) Funny you noticed haha!

@@davidphalen9239 yesss gang gang

Yep same, really glad to see this video

Battle for humanity, indeed

How the turns have tabled.

He did win the second game

Mi fai morire, sei su ogni video ahah

@@IlSigPin day 3 of translating the title in spanish in comments about translating the title "Garry Kasparov contra Deep Blue: la batalla de ajedrez por la Humanidad "

"Garry Kasparov contre Deep Blue: la bataille pour l'humanité"

@@tronquitoanimations2882 day 1 of translating the title in portuguese in comments about translating the title to spanish in comments about translating the title to italian. "Garry Kasparov contra Deep Blue: a batalha de xadrez pela humanidade".

@@Pedro-op6zj day 1 of translating the title in french in comments about translating the title to portuguese in comments about translating the title to spanish in comments about translating the title in italian. "Garry Kasparov contre Deep Blue: La bataille d'échec pour l'humanité"

The story about Kasparov’s mother yelling at him from the audience when he accused the computer of cheating is amazing

thank you for this info kind stranger

So maybe getting your room pawns Out First ist the best move cause of peuning Alpha Zero didnt even considers IT?! Wow

Sometimes I consider it. All it takes is some faulty programming or a virus, and all the sudden, a bunch of our military gear starts targeting anything with a heat signature. Like... Us.

I have talked with friends and we basically agree that we're in Early Cyberpunk already. We don't have the coolest aesthetic nailed down, but all essential elements are in place.

Damn thanks for that fun fact

Technically the second part of that isn't completely true since it is possible for the king to have no moves without it being mate

Wow thanks

@@polytopiahu1015 yep, that’s a stalemate

Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?

53 min ago lucky me

chatgpt

And nothing changed

I still dont

So yesterday?

Checkers was much fun ig

For different reasons. Levy uses an hippo because it is what delays the game the most, forcing the cheater to use his time up and lose before the engine does anything. Kasparov used the hippo because he wanted a long game as he saw that is the weakness of the engine. Levy would never win using an hippo against an engine these days with classical time control, as the engine would eventually break his defense open, it only works in rapid or blitz games. Then again the comparison isn't fair because today's engines are much better than deep blue was in 1996/1997

@@Obi-WanKannabis In Blitz maybe. Rapid? No way.

Nah, he was using a human lol