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Gas VS Diesel | Which Should You Choose for Your Truck 

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Buying a truck and trying to decide between gas and diesel? I made this video to break down the differences, and show why I ended up going diesel. There’s no right answer for everyone, but there’s a right answer for you!
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@BJACK703
@BJACK703 3 года назад
"Don't haggle me on the price I know what its worth"
@JustDiesels
@JustDiesels 3 года назад
*kicks tire on rusty 2nd gen with 400k miles 😂
@drewarthur2169
@drewarthur2169 3 года назад
@@JustDiesels **slaps hood of LLY with blown motor**
@jphillips472
@jphillips472 3 года назад
"It ain't worth the tires its sitting on, but because I feel bad for you, ill offer you $$$$$$$"
@jmanf223
@jmanf223 18 дней назад
“I know what I have”
@Sixman__
@Sixman__ 3 года назад
Can you PLEASE make a video focusing specifically on the pros and cons of Older diesels (pre emissions) vs New Generation diesels? That would be so awesome !
@JustDiesels
@JustDiesels 3 года назад
Yeah I want to make a video head to head with a 5.9 third gen and 6.7 third gen Cummins. I feel like that’s the perfect comparison since everything is identical aside from the powertrain. Open to suggestions though!
@leviemerick6736
@leviemerick6736 3 года назад
@@JustDiesels you could even have a later 4th Gen or even 5th 6.7 Cummins when DEF was added to really compare with the two trucks you mentioned if you want to.
@spencersgarage
@spencersgarage 3 года назад
@@JustDiesels I’ve heard that the ‘03 model was very last model to have no emissions including no catalytic converter. Something about The injectors only spray twice instead of three times in the 03-04, so those injectors and engines are suppose to last longer than other years (from what I’ve researched). I’ve also have heard in other videos that the 2003 Cummins is the most fuel efficient year model. That would make a cool video to discuss those points as well.
@kingroberts7791
@kingroberts7791 3 года назад
@@JustDiesels please make that video
@JustDiesels
@JustDiesels 3 года назад
@@spencersgarage That is correct, the 06-076 5.9 trucks like mine have a third injection event for in cylinder EGR. It's also true that the 03-05 trucks get the best fuel economy. That said all the HPCR 03-05 Common rail 5.9 trucks are subject to injector failure. It's primarily due to poor filtration and high fuel injection pressures. That's why extra fuel filtration on those trucks is so important! I have a 2 micron cat fuel filter on my fass.
@joetacoma6829
@joetacoma6829 3 года назад
In the Rust Belt pushing snow and pulling landscape trailers there is no difference between Diesel and gas. they all rot away at the same rate🤣
@milesstevens3476
@milesstevens3476 3 года назад
Lol
@jphillips472
@jphillips472 3 года назад
Unless you actually take care of it. Own a 2004 duramax dually, without a speck of rust anywhere, and i live in south central pa. All I do is hose it down after a snow storm. 10 minutes. Well worth it for years and years of reliable and safe service
@crisjr6478
@crisjr6478 2 года назад
The real rust belt is the northeast. Salting roads almost 5 months a year in my state of Vermont with our long winters just eats up steel.
@andretsang7337
@andretsang7337 2 года назад
Cover your undercarriage with petroleum jelly or fluid film.
@chasemain5476
@chasemain5476 2 года назад
He does kinda have a point living in Michigan we’re the salt the roads in the winter you really don’t get the life out of the Diesel engine before the body is trashed by rust
@mxerb5912
@mxerb5912 3 года назад
The sounds, smell, feel of a diesel is worth it alone
@theghettovaqueroh
@theghettovaqueroh 3 года назад
Amen
@WestBeachFLboy
@WestBeachFLboy 2 года назад
All opinions though
@jason86768
@jason86768 2 года назад
Diesel exhaust makes my eyes water to be honest. But that's not stopping me from dropping a p-pumped 5.9 into my 78 Ford!
@angelgjr1999
@angelgjr1999 2 года назад
Diesel is 100 times more toxic than gasoline.
@big4jake112
@big4jake112 2 года назад
Wouldn’t diesels be good, sure the weight is more but doesn’t the diesel make up for fuel efficiency?
@Skitter302
@Skitter302 3 года назад
I'm a gas guy, I enjoy wrenching on a gas engine, I love the sounds and revvs. If I was towing all the time I would get a diesel truck, or if I was overlanding as more of my automotive hobby I would get a diesel. I love the sound of the late 80s and late 90s diesel engines. I think overall I enjoy gas engines a bit better because thats what I was taught on so I understand that engine type better.
@spencersgarage
@spencersgarage 3 года назад
Value of a Ram 1500 Hemi vs 2500 with a Cummins, no contest!!! I’ll never own a gas truck. Love my ‘03 Cummins!
@longboardguy
@longboardguy 3 года назад
A modern gas truck isn’t too bad! Had many diesels back a while ago. Now I’m a bit older in my young 30’s got a first new truck a 19’ Ram Sport 1500 and it’s nice, smooth power, 8 speed trans and a good ride quality. But I here you on your 03’ Cummins that’s a nice truck to have! I had a 12v 1996 2500 with the 5 speed long bed and it burnt in a wild fire! So hold onto your truck especially if it’s well kept and decent condition because they are getting hard to find I’ve been looking a while
@xInline6
@xInline6 3 года назад
@@longboardguy yeah I feel like as you age you really enjoy a smoother quieter ride. I’m still young so I like being obnoxious lol
@JeffBrauss
@JeffBrauss 3 года назад
Stick with your 03. My newer diesel comes with a lot of extra (unwanted) equipment
@longboardguy
@longboardguy 3 года назад
@@xInline6 I hear you I was the same haha I’m not even that old yet but it’s funny how age does work. I still like any old school Cummins loud though!
@longboardguy
@longboardguy 3 года назад
@@JeffBrauss that’s true! If I buy a diesel again it will be a nice shape older one Gen 3 and down for me nothing newer then a 03! Just personal preference
@RATBURL
@RATBURL 3 года назад
Diesel if you’re towing all the time,other than that it’s not a big deal.
@RidgeRunner88
@RidgeRunner88 3 года назад
Unless you tow very heavy, new diesel trucks just aren’t worth it. They’re more expensive, more costly to repair, more costly to maintain, less refined, less of an MPG gap, and less reliable (due to emissions equipment that are now virtually impossible to delete). If you can find a pre emissions, rust free, low mileage diesel; yes buy it. A new truck made in last couple years? Buy a gasser unless you absolutely need the diesel for towing.
@scottgentz334
@scottgentz334 3 года назад
The pre-emissions trucks are selling at way to high of a price to justify it in my opinion. 20k for a truck that’s 15 years old, most likely rusting, worn out suspension and beat to crap by all these 20 year olds is not worth it. You can a gas truck with the same miles for 1/2 of what a diesel costs. Not to mention the cost of fuel treatment in the winter, plus higher maintenance cost, if you don’t tow on a consistent basis it’s not even close to being worth it.
@alexbeebe3447
@alexbeebe3447 2 года назад
What would you say if you plow a lot of snow? I’m stuck right now, diesels are very expensive new right now and you can get a gas 2500 new for about 50k where I live, I plow a lot of snow and right now I’m tired of having togo 40 mph in my 17 Chevy 1500 with a western enforcer HTS plow and anytime I go over 45 I start going over 210 on the temp really looking at getting a 2500 just don’t know what to get
@bigballz4u
@bigballz4u 2 года назад
@@scottgentz334 Exaggerate much? LOL. I know used cars are getting pricey now, but 20k and you won't be far off from a basically pristine truck with no issues.
@scottgentz334
@scottgentz334 2 года назад
@@bigballz4u lol you show me these “pristine” trucks for 20k
@bigballz4u
@bigballz4u 2 года назад
@@scottgentz334 Here's one, sold for a couple grand less than that at 50,000 miles. I don't know what your issue is, but these kinds of numbers aren't hard to find.
@Downstriker559
@Downstriker559 3 года назад
The only reason you should get a diesel is if you have a use for it. If you're not towing or if you don't do a minimum of an hour commute to work theres no point in owning a diesel. As a HD mechanic the maintenance factor is a larger factor then you seem to take it as. Maintenance isn't something you can take lightly because realistically you can't ignore properly maintaining a vehicle. While you're right about some parts remaining the same, majority of parts are far more expensive to compensate for the extra weight, torque, etc. Another thing you said well was about the stop and go traffic, that I'd absolutely terrible for a diesel engine. Offroad equipment and gensets typically have the highest life expectancy of diesel engines due to the fact that they are held at one consistent rpm for their life span. Followed by long haul tractors. Another factor you didnt mention is climate. Gasoline has a flash point of -40°c (-40°f) while diesel can vary from 52-96°c (126-205°f). You're topic about resale value I feel was somewhat pointless as the variance between the 2 prices was essentially the extra it cost to throw the diesel in from factory. While yes it is a nice thought the only real time resale value is important is if you're flipping vehicles or a salesman. Resale on a diesel is also a lot higher because of maintenance. The maintenance you throw into a diesel is significantly higher than a gasoline truck. While the fuel may be better in a diesel there is still decent options for fuel efficient gas trucks. My coworkers 2019 dodge ram 1500 gets about 8L/100KM (roughly 29 mpg) if I remember correctly which is used as his commuter while he has a 2019 duramax used for towing and strictly that. That's just my 2 cents but at the end of the day it's your dime not mine, do whatever floats your boat.
@constantinsanity9814
@constantinsanity9814 3 года назад
well said
@Downstriker559
@Downstriker559 3 года назад
@@constantinsanity9814 thank you
@f5tornadeau
@f5tornadeau 3 года назад
That’s all fair, but compare a 250,000 mile cummins vs a 250,000 mile Hemi and there’s a big difference. I’d buy the diesel, but you’d have to give me the hemi. The best thing about the Cummins dodges is that Dodge doesn’t make them... You buy the engine, it just comes wrapped in a Ram.
@Downstriker559
@Downstriker559 3 года назад
@@f5tornadeau yeah that's true comparing but 250,000 hemj vs cummins... The hemi would be cheaper to fix with that mileage than a cummins. Injectors in a cummins are super expensive compared to hemi injectors, especially if it's a common rail injector.
@techti8792
@techti8792 3 года назад
6.4 hemi or 6.7 cummins?
@80chargers
@80chargers 3 года назад
That diesel and transmission do weigh a lot more. I have owned both and currently have a 2019 Ram 2500 Longhorn with the Hemi. One stat that these comparisons seem to not really mention is the cargo /payload advantage that the gas has over the diesel . I'm able to load almost 800 lbs more than the same truck with a diesel. That's something that should be considered when deciding.
@singlespeedman
@singlespeedman 3 года назад
I’ll pick gas. I’m a diesel mechanic.
@singlespeedman
@singlespeedman 3 года назад
@Chris L Initial cost of diesel machine doesn't offset fuel efficiency gains for a few years is something to be aware of. Emission system failures even within warranty period are very common on diesel machines. Non-warranty failures of fuel injection systems(half a tank of water from fuel station) are very common. Diesel fuel at any station is saturated with emulsified water. This water saturated fuel is scrubbed of most water with the filter systems on diesel trucks but it doesn't capture all, leading to premature injector failure which WILL not be covered by warranty. This can be combated somewhat by aftermarket filter/water separation systems and the use of fuel treatment WITH LUBE. If you look at gas machine in I'm assuming a 3/4 or 1 ton chassis I would research which trans it comes with and buy the heavier duty trans that's available. Gas engines can have minor reliability issues also but rarely any of the expensive failures common with diesel machines. There can instances depending on what you need to tow where the diesel is your only choice.
@singlespeedman
@singlespeedman 3 года назад
@Chris L no problem Brother.
@mccortezy
@mccortezy 3 года назад
@@singlespeedman great explanation. I drive semi trucks and let me tell you, I agree and also looking at getting a gas engine pick up. My thing is, if you planning to make money from your truck diesel. If not gas.
@junesondrab3833
@junesondrab3833 3 года назад
@@singlespeedman thank you!! I've been leaning towards gas too. I never owned a diesel truck and don't want to. My research so far has led me this way. And your comment.
@Todd-rk2lb
@Todd-rk2lb 3 месяца назад
i drive trucks dpf is the big headache
@YOMAMASSIDEDUDE
@YOMAMASSIDEDUDE 3 года назад
So, spend $6000 upfront get $6000 back when you sell it? I’m sorry but that doesn’t mean it’s holding it’s value more. It’s literally the same depreciation.
@tafloyd2
@tafloyd2 3 года назад
Iv always wanted a first or second gen Cummins, however I drive a much cheaper 1st gen Dakota with the 318, I’m at 425,000 miles on the original power train.
@tannerstines4783
@tannerstines4783 3 года назад
4:08 ,that delivery guy was checking out your rig😎
@mrrpepsi24
@mrrpepsi24 3 года назад
Basically the difference in price is the $6.000 that you paid in the beginning.
@Rommer2258
@Rommer2258 3 года назад
Exactly. By the number unless your towing everyday the diesel fiscally do not sense. Its all personnel preference. But after owning 2 4th gens, the diesel is more enjoyable to drive once it was tuned and deleted. But stock for stock the 392 truck was way more enjoyable to drive around town. Long term the gas truck actually made me money when I sold it. Not sure on the diesel yet. After my 40k investment.
@marvina8536
@marvina8536 3 года назад
@@Rommer2258 cars are not investments
@Rommer2258
@Rommer2258 3 года назад
@@marvina8536 worked for me. Made 4 grand off of it.
@doncannell3511
@doncannell3511 3 года назад
exactly
@brandonmick9191
@brandonmick9191 3 года назад
$6000? No the powerstroke is almost a $10,000 option same with the other 2 big diesels.
@Mdcusin975
@Mdcusin975 3 года назад
Having both gas and diesel, I’ll stick with the diesel, I get the same fuel economy but the truck tows better, that and the diesels sound better as well
@Eric2300jeep
@Eric2300jeep 3 года назад
Bought my '03 Cummins with a manual trans about 3 years ago for $15k. Spent about $3.5k so far, fixing various issues including a new set of injectors. My insurance currently has it valued at $25k. I'm quite content with my purchase to say the least. It's been a fantastic truck and even though I get people constantly offering me more than what I paid and put into it, I'd never sell it!
@Shitty796
@Shitty796 2 года назад
What company is this I need them so I can get a book of matches and a check
@oldretireddude
@oldretireddude 3 года назад
As a diesel owner since 2006, I tell those who ask that I would not own a diesel that is newer than 2007 unless I am using it for commercial purposes and can pass the expenses along to customers.
@welewisiii
@welewisiii 3 года назад
diesel trucks are for your ego. unless you tow 12k-15k lbs+. long distance on a regular basis the. diesel truck doesn’t pay. it’s takes years and years to recoup that money on gas. from a business aspects the diesel doesn’t pay. diesel trucks have frequent issues. most mechanics just change parts on diesels not actually fix them. any mechanic can fix a gas motor and the gas is just way more reliable most consumers are buying new trucks and putting under 200k moles on them. a gas truck will do that no problem. who wants 12 year old truck that has 300k miles on it anyway
@gorehammer1
@gorehammer1 3 года назад
Don’t know why it has to be a ego thing. I got one because I have worked hard all my life and I just wanted one. I don’t pull heavy trailers every day but it’s still nicer in a diesel. Also I don’t have to think about if I can pull my load up a steep hill, I know I can. The cost of maintenance is higher and yeah, getting used to a 15qt oil change is a small bummer but it’s also easier and more fun to work on. Also I work for a small business and 5 of our 7 trucks are diesel. He made that choice because gas trucks were not up to the work load. Point is drive what works for you and let others do the same.
@kriso657
@kriso657 3 года назад
I like how you talked about the parts being similar but I feel maintenance is way more expensive on diesels, injectors 2500$ gasser 500$. High injection pumps diesel 1500$ gasser.... Ford ecoboost are comparable to diesels fuel mileage and they tow enough for a nice sized trailer... plus they don't ride like a diesel in the street stock for stock. I currently own an lml duramax. Oil changes, fuel filters more expensive on diesels. I think regardless if your not going to be using the Max towing capabilities the diesel isn't real worth it. If you just want raw torque that'll blow your mind... DIESEL ALL DAY! but if not ecoboost motors are a close runner up! And resale is really only important if you think you ll sell it.. that's my opinion
@jakewashburn5924
@jakewashburn5924 3 года назад
I used an eco boost recently after hearing all the negativity from people in my area, and he ride quality was decent but what truly blew my mind was the acceleration, it truly put me bac in the seat, that is when I was empty. I towed a 4,000lb loaded trailer and got 9.9 mpg(I do admit I also have tools in the bed) Now I pulled that same trailer with my 6.7 powerstroke and there was a night and day difference in handling, acceleration, and braking. I also got 14.5 mpg doing it. So for me In most cases i'm using a diesel.
@kriso657
@kriso657 3 года назад
@@jakewashburn5924 I totally agree they're fast trucks with a lot of potential for even more power just like a diesel but I don't feel like you can compare the ride towing because its a 1500 to 2500.. that's stiffer frame stiffer suspension and how much more power like conservatively speaking 500lbs ft of torque more than the ecoboost? So I think it makes total sense with your experience. But we've towed a 28ft toyhauler to Glamis for 13hrs and got 8mpg the whole way but it also weighted a lot more in a deleted lmm. But I was just saying bang for your buck I think if you want diesel like power with cheaper maintenence and you don't have a super big trailer an ecoboost is pretty cost effective. My grandpa has a 15 f150 ecoboost and gets 19mpg city and 21-22 highway and loves hot rodding it haha and when he needs to tow his camper hooks up his duramax.
@JustDiesels
@JustDiesels 3 года назад
I actually had an ecoboost back in 2012 and LOVED that truck. The thing was a rocketship! I will say though that my 06 beats it in terms of fuel economy and I’ve found the trucks to be very similar in terms of maintenance aside from the third gen simply taking a larger quantity of oil. I loved that ecoboost but I don’t regret switching at all!
@kriso657
@kriso657 3 года назад
@@JustDiesels nice yeah I think for me, I want to get a ranger or that new bronco coming out as a Daily and keep the miles down on my "tow pig" haha I just had to pay 10,000 for the new fuel system on it since that cp4 is garbage! Grenaded the whole system. Runs like a champ now with that cp3 conversion.
@dozerboyd8784
@dozerboyd8784 3 года назад
We have been very impressed with GMs new 6.6l gasser. The power is decent, but the mileage is really impressive at ~16mpg on the hwy. The ford 7.3 is a beast in power, but we have seem some dependability issues.
@andrewbennett3007
@andrewbennett3007 3 года назад
Good video. Thanks man. I'm shopping for a new truck right now and am contemplating this decision. I definitely have almost zero need for a diesel truck; I just want one. I have owned gas trucks in the past and when I do tow with it, I hate it. I hate the long trip back home over mountain passes screaming away at 4500 rpm up a big hill. My last two cars have been diesel and I have to say, they are so much more enjoyable to drive and the fuel economy is worth it. The maintenance costs are a little higher, but not bad. I wouldn't say I spent anything specifically on the engine but you do get charged more for the same basic maintenance from the dealer which is common on the gas and diesel variants. If you're doing this stuff yourself, I don't think you'd notice the difference. Sure I do a lot of in town trips but I can always take the girls gas vehicle if I really need to. I think I'm going to go with the diesel despite it costing a ton for a fully loaded truck, even used. I know that first long haul trip out of town in the gas truck, if I bought it, I'd regret it immediately.
@joaquinelectric1
@joaquinelectric1 2 месяца назад
Bro what do you think about 2020 Chevrolet Silverado 3.0 l duramax turbo diesel ? I’m about to buy one ., I never own one ., what do you think should I buy one ?
@brandonblackwell8932
@brandonblackwell8932 3 года назад
Your analysis of the depreciation doesnt make sense. The diesel engine is $6,500 more. From what you showed, the gas truck is worth about $7,000 less than the diesel at any given mileage. This just shows them depreciating at almost the exact same rate.
@JustDiesels
@JustDiesels 3 года назад
Correct, but my point is that the initial investment in the diesel is never lost. You maintain that same premium over the life of the truck. If both trucks ended up costing the exact same amount at 200k miles then you would have lost your investment in the diesel.
@dozerboyd8784
@dozerboyd8784 3 года назад
I wonder how other brands compare. The Dmax is a 10k option and I think it's about the same on Fords.
@Rommer2258
@Rommer2258 3 года назад
Now with the 13k to 15k option for the diesel, they ill depreciate at a faster rate. But only time will tell with the 2020 trucks
@mattmorris5048
@mattmorris5048 3 года назад
No. The gas truck would be depreciating faster in relative terms. Considering its KBB, and those aren't really the actual rates, once you add a thousand and subtract a thousand at the low end for diesel and gas, that relative difference is higher. According to KBB its like a 50% depreciation over 300k miles for a diesel vs a 70% depreciation over 300k for gas, whereas in reality its more like 40-50% for diesel and 70-80% for gas. Then as you take into account vehicles that didn't accrue all those miles in a short number of years and you add age to the mix (300k miles over 15 years instead of 9) the diesels win hands down. It all depends on generation obviously but you'll see diesels from early 2000s go for 16000 out of a dealership in a matter of days. There aren't many gas vehicles that compare to that.
@Rommer2258
@Rommer2258 3 года назад
@@mattmorris5048 the late 5.9s and LBZ trucks aren't normal, the pre-emissions tax on those are insane. But if you at a 2010 hemi and a 2010 cummins, they are more evenly matched. Also the diesel truck market is pretty inflated currently. I'm not sure what's going to happen in 10 years but with all 3 trucks diesel option ranging from 10 to 14 grand for the motor, I don't see them holding it. Maybe 5k premium.
@Denali_Rebel
@Denali_Rebel 3 года назад
What I just saw about resale value was that they’re equal. The increase for a diesel is the same new or used but it’s the same.
@jc7435
@jc7435 2 года назад
I agree, but it does chip away at the “negative” aspect of the higher initial cost.
@Denali_Rebel
@Denali_Rebel 2 года назад
@@jc7435 yes it does depending on how long you plan on keeping the truck. Everyone that I’ve heard talk about new diesels says to make damn sure you get rid of it before the warranty expires. If that’s what everyone says about a truck I certainly won’t be the person buying one at 100,000 miles.
@jc7435
@jc7435 2 года назад
@@Denali_Rebel I agree, makes me wonder if the new diesels will enjoy the higher resell price of the older diesels.
@Denali_Rebel
@Denali_Rebel 2 года назад
@@jc7435 I am wondering the same thing. I know I wouldn’t be the guy to buy that truck.
@lospanchos68
@lospanchos68 3 года назад
Bought my first diesel truck in 14 and I will never look back as I take long hauls pulling around 7-9k lbs and I literally drive as if there was nothing back there, one subject you forgot to touch is the exhaust brake which is a game changer.
@jangofett8210
@jangofett8210 2 года назад
I love diesels. But I have no use for one. Unless you tow there’s no use for a diesel. You compared Ram for Ram. But if you get into Toyota territory. Well. Even those are higher in actual market value than KBB listings. And cost of ownership is also less than any Cummins diesel.
@TruckLifeProductions
@TruckLifeProductions 3 года назад
In my opinion it comes down to what you’re using it for in the case of a diesel if you’re using it to mostly tow or travel long distances for extended periods of time yes diesel would probably be a better option it can haul the heavier weight and 8 out 10 chances get better fuel mileage than a gasser but at the same time the gasser holds it own because it can get good fuel mileage I have personally witnessed this with my Ram 5.7 Hemi and non mds at that, as well as most parts are cheaper especially an oil change, I use 7 quarts in my truck where a small car would probably use 4-5 but a diesel uses like 15 quarts. Colder months can be harder on a diesel because the fuel could gel up if there’s no additive and where it runs off compression and not spark. I’ve owned a 2005 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 and a1998 Ford F-150 5.4 for many years and they have served their purpose very well, I haven’t ever hauled anything they couldn’t handle and both have bigger fuel tanks so mileage hasn’t been an issue. I do agree that diesel’s will hold their value better especially if properly maintained but unless you’re handy with tools diesel mechanic’s can be more costly and in my opinion gassers are just more simple to work on especially the older ones. So as I previously stated it boils down to what it’s used for, so some 16yr old that got a F-350 for a bday present from mom and dad that’ll never actually use it is honestly just a waste of a perfectly good truck although the salesman is pretty happy and I’m not gonna lie if someone wanted to just give me one I would definitely appreciate the opportunity and use it for some of the heavier workloads that I’ve encountered but I’m not gonna pay more money for something I can get done with my gasser and they’re paid off so that’s my opinion thx
@outwestcountryliving9735
@outwestcountryliving9735 2 года назад
Good article. A few more things to think about for most people. I am a diesel fan. But according to your numbers, the 6 to $7000 difference in New price is almost offsets the trade in value. The oil change price is almost equal to difference in fuel mileage. Then you add in deff and filters of newer, there is more cost. Cold climate starts with no heater plugged in can be another factor. Diesel ic no good in city short drives. Diesels are great for longer commuits, if you haul a lot of weight, or tow a lot. You are right about fuel. One time diesel is higher the next time gas is higher. I penciled it in and if gas is cheaper and diesel got 4 miles to the gallon, not counting the more expensive oil changes, it would have taken 180,000 to break even on cost in 2001 when we bought our diesel. Diesels are great if you plan on keeping it for a long time or haul-pull weight. It would be a tough decision for me now where I don't haul as much weight. With the 35 cent difference in fuel price right now, it would be a hard choice. Problem with gas PU right now is nothing much better than14-16 mpg.
@nolanporcelli3238
@nolanporcelli3238 3 года назад
Woah finally a dude with some brains and some computer skills on youtube. Thought id never see the day someone would make it big explaining all of this stuff
@bryancollins942
@bryancollins942 2 года назад
My brother and I both have 1996 dodge rams. He has the diesel and I have the v10 gas. Both have 300k miles and he definitely has spent a lot more money on repairs.
@TroubadourJuggernaut
@TroubadourJuggernaut 3 года назад
I love the wheel selections / rim selection on all these trucks, so many guys choose ugly rims and have a massive offset like a damn skateboard !!
@clerissonmesquita
@clerissonmesquita 3 года назад
Thank you so much Andrew for your outstanding work, have a great day.
@jphillips472
@jphillips472 3 года назад
EC/LB dually with LB7 duramax, no emissions at all that year, 100k miles, Bought it bone stock, currently 600+ HP. I'll own it until the zombie apocalypse. And I daily drive it.
@KeystoneOutdoorsman
@KeystoneOutdoorsman 3 года назад
Ive owned 3 5.9s. 91, 03, 04.5. Awesome trucks! Though i sold my 03 and 04.5 rigs, i greatly miss them they were solid. Right now I still have the 91 and a '13 5.0 F150. Though gutless in the bottom end, the F150 has been great. Much less maintence and repairs then the older diesels. Id find it hard to go back to diesel with the tighter regulations coming in the foreseeable future. The cost of maintence and repairs can put a man in debt easy. If you want a truck with killer resale value and is low maintence - Toyota Tundra.
@danielservin2450
@danielservin2450 3 года назад
Good point. Had a 97 7.3. Sounded amazing fun to beat own and got decent mpg. But gas especially the the 5.0 is a great motor granted u gotta wind it out cuz it gets power on the top end. If its a daily and not alotta towing gas is ok. But your right tundras with the 5.7 especially the optional supercharger are underappreciated
@Peccs91
@Peccs91 3 года назад
Awesome video, as always. I agree with basically everything. Used to drive a 6.0 powerstroke that actually treated me pretty well. Anymore, I just really don't have a use for a diesel which is why I drive Toyotas now. Yeah, I sacrifice some fuel economy but I don't care so much as I more than make up for that in reliability, build quality and resale value.
@Pontiacman1964
@Pontiacman1964 2 года назад
One important thing you didn't factor in the resale of a gas vs a diesel is how much more you pay for a diesel in the beginning. In addition, one thing that I noticed in the 26 years that I drove big trucks (semi's), is that diesel always costs more than gas, and unless you can easily fuel at a truck stop, the pumps are harder to find on average. You're kind of restricted to the highway if you easily want to fuel. So, back to the cost of diesel. If you add up how much more you spend at the pump, and when you can find one, the little bit in more miles per gallon isn't a savings. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of diesels in pickups, but unless I was regularly pulling heavy loads, I'd just go with the convenience of having a gas engine. The cost of maintenance, the problems with DEF, EGR systems, injector pumps and other EPA mandates for diesels, make it sort of a rich mans toy.
@itsjustjonnoh
@itsjustjonnoh 8 месяцев назад
Very helpful comment, thanks. Looking at getting my first truck this year. Was hooked on the idea of a diesel but I truly have no reason to get one. Better off with a gas truck. Chevy gas trucks any good in comparison to a ram? (Looking at the 1500’s)
@ianperry9571
@ianperry9571 Год назад
I'm sure someone else has already pointed this out, but I wanted to make a note that at 300K miles, the diesel is worth $17K and the gasser is worth $11K. The difference is $6K....which is the original price difference between the diesel and the gasser. In fact, the price difference at each of your mileage points was $6K. Doesn't seem like there's much of a difference in depreciation between the two in the long run.
@asiwiak
@asiwiak 9 месяцев назад
Exactly. So taking into consideration higher of overall cost of ownership gas engine takes the crown.
@jayboogie7956
@jayboogie7956 3 года назад
I really want a diesel but I just know that the maintenance will be insane.😞 I just don't know what I should do because I am in the market for a 2021 ram but I just can't decide between the diesel and gas. If I had the full amount of money including maintenance, fuel cost, repairs etc, then I would go with a ram 2500. But I have to be realistic, and since there is a strange thing/concept named "tax deductions", the diesel dream just seems wayyyyy too far away. Guess I'll have to settle for gas 😐
@TheRabidPosum
@TheRabidPosum 3 года назад
Never had a diesel but I want one.
@alexadamson1322
@alexadamson1322 3 года назад
I own a 2011 Chevy Silverado with the 5.3l gas V8 that has 93k miles on it. I love how the truck rides and drives since it’s my daily driver and I do often drive short distances so it works for me. I haven’t had a single thing mechanically go wrong with the truck (knock on wood) and it has been serving me well. I bought it brand new from the dealer and have taken very good care of it so there’s something to add as far as knowing the type of driving you put on the truck as opposed to buying second hand and not knowing exactly how the previous owner drove the truck or how well it was taken care of. I do plan on replacing my Silverado with a 2500 diesel in the future and I find myself balancing on a beam between a Duramax and Cummins. I have always liked those Dodge (RAM) HDs but have heard some reliability issues that concern me for the trucks longevity. It wouldn’t be used so much as a work truck but more or less a family hauler that can carry all of our gear on road trips and with the potential into maybe some over landing adventures. That leads me to my next debate, independent front suspension or a solid axle? I really dig what those guys at CJC Off-road are doing and would maybe venture that route as far as upgrading the suspension on the truck. Anyway. Sorry for the rant but that’s where my mind goes when I look into getting my next truck. I want something that works for my personal needs and being that I’m a longtime Chevy guy I may need to either be convinced or sold on a RAM with the Cummins diesel. I know all these trucks have their highs and lows.
@diegaspumper8501
@diegaspumper8501 2 года назад
I owned nothing but Ram trucks for about 25 years all gas engines and just recently got a 2010 Silverado 2500 HD with a LMM Duramax and I love it, it’s the first Chevy I’ve ever owned. As I get older I have moved away from being a one brand truck guy. I know the guy who had the truck before me, he bought it brand new and only had to do normal maintenance to it. It’s got 120k miles on it. My point is don’t limit yourself to just one brand of truck because you could end up missing out on a good one.
@treizTUBE
@treizTUBE 3 года назад
the resale value gap can be accounted for the initial upcharge for the diesel engine. Initial upcharge $6k, value at 300k miles $17k diesel - $11k gas = $6k. But that doesn't account for the increased cost of ownership of the diesel, so you still come out behind. The only reasons to buy a diesel is if you are actually working it, or if you are an enthusiast.
@brendanclark81
@brendanclark81 3 года назад
Your comment is dead on! "A diesel holds it value...." Every diesel owner says that. The '12 example was perfect. Apples to apples, the '12 diesel cost $6k more than the gasser and with every mileage mark, the used value was the same $6k. I would hope if I spent $6k more on truck #1 instead of truck #2, it would maintain a $6k higher value over its life. A good example of holding value is a Ford Focus and Toyota Corolla. If both cost the same new, but at 150k miles, the Corolla is worth more than Focus, the Corolla has a better resale value. If both vehicles decline in value at the same rate, they hold the same resale value.
@JustDiesels
@JustDiesels 3 года назад
I think the third gen trucks might serve as a better example though since they’re actually “older” trucks now. There’s a big discrepancy between the 30 something thousand dollar asking price for the diesel models and the low teens of the gas trucks. That initial up front investment is never lost, so the real defining difference becomes operational cost and maintenance. Unfortunately it’s hard to calculate out exactly how maintenance costs will shake out.
@treizTUBE
@treizTUBE 3 года назад
@@JustDiesels I think the inflated value of older trucks is just residual fall out from the early emissions problems. As those systems get better, or as it becomes easier to defeat them (or sanity returns to the EPA), I'm sure the values of 15+ year old trucks will decrease precipitously. I certainly wouldn't buy a diesel just for the resale value, either work it or play with it but it's not an investment.
@payloadperformance9706
@payloadperformance9706 3 года назад
I have a 96 Ram with 95k original miles and I completely agree with this 100% Also I’m getting a 05 diesel from my friends dad for about 24k and it I my has around 65,000 original miles he’s the only owner!
@robbiemiller2334
@robbiemiller2334 3 года назад
That's a damn good deal. I can't find anything under 250k miles for that price
@acemclaughlin1992
@acemclaughlin1992 2 года назад
ummm well I just went from dfw to the OK panhandle. paid about $1.25 MORE a gallon than gas + $30 of DEF. Making 5 mpg worse milage doesn't make that up. granted diesel isn't always that much more, but it's pretty well guaranteed to always be more. would have like to have seen this video be more objective and maybe list the pros of a gasser. HP, payload, msrp, etc..... full disclosure, I own nether.
@tonytunnell9873
@tonytunnell9873 3 года назад
The only gas truck worth considering, right now is the Ford F2/350 7.3 Godzila. But even still to new to test lone term of reliability and resale. Any Data yet?
@ripesince88
@ripesince88 Год назад
I’m totally new the truck world. Considering dodge 1500 5.7 or 2500 6.7. I drive an hour commute high way into the mountains. Snow during winter. Won’t be hauling anything other than dump runs and such. Tired of taking my car. Any input is appreciated
@jza80king
@jza80king 2 года назад
Dpf, Def, SCR, EGR, CP4, injectors, much more expensive tires since diesels are pigs, even regular oil changes are much more $... Unless you are towing heavier, just get a 3/4 ton gasser.
@TheBlowinSmokePodcast
@TheBlowinSmokePodcast 3 года назад
I want a 2nd gen cummins but fuck spending 15k~30k on a 300k mile rust bucket lmao
@excorcistzl11le62
@excorcistzl11le62 Год назад
I really wish toyota made a diesel tundra for the united states versions. I have a tundra and i love it except I wish it was diesel. Mexico has diesel tundras i think but they can't be registered in the US. btw my tundra gets 10.4mpg 🤣🤣
@lloya5831
@lloya5831 3 года назад
This video is great, thanks for the all the information I'm buying my first diesel truck and and this video is so informative on my decision. 👍
@markwiebner7806
@markwiebner7806 3 года назад
I get 22-24 mpg on my 2020 Silverado 5.3 , max tow, 8 speed, highway driving flat highways near sea level not towing. I got the same or better with my 2015 and 2017 both a 5.3's with a 6 speed. (my 2000 Silverado 4.3 six could only do 17 highway) I can afford a diesel, but it makes no sense to me in 2020. Diesel fuel is more expensive in PA and DE where I live. We tow an 8,000 pound boat short distances. All 3-5.3's did/do that easily. I think the max tow on the 2020 is near 13,000. I do agree diesel is cooler. It just does not make sense for my situation in $$. Thanks for an informative video. I enjoyed and have subscribed. Maybe I'll go the oil burner route down the road. Who knows...
@TheFedExMan702
@TheFedExMan702 3 года назад
I have an 06 w/80k now and I’ve turned down several offers over 30k. Now the only thing I will say is that these trucks are meant to be driven. Maybe even driven hard for a good portion. I’ve broken a few things literally from not using it enough so now I drive it way more.
@ajs96350
@ajs96350 3 года назад
It's simple, I have one of each, I drive about 50/50 on the miles I put on them. The repair costs, the diesel usually costs about twice as much for repairs, this is just a fact of life and also why I got the Hemi to cut miles down on the diesel. 1 tiny example, thermostat for Hemi (OEM) $40, Thermostat (OEM) Cummins $150. My 3500 dually Ram gets about 14mpg, deleted. My Hemi 1500 gets 17 mpg. After driving 100's of thousands of miles on Cummins Rams, I will say that I love them, will always love them and they are very powerful, however they are heavy. My Hemi is much quicker, faster response to throttle input, I think this is due in part to it being less than half the weight and maybe due to the fact that I have never owned a 3/4 ton Cummins truck therefore all mine have been heavy dually haulers.
@Jaimeleon20
@Jaimeleon20 3 года назад
I drive a badass 2018 Tundra Crewmax 4x4 and i love it with the mods I’ve done to it , CAI, Cat Back Exhaust, NSV light bar. Etc. I drive a 14.6 liter turboDiesel Caterpillar semi truck mon-fri I must say I prefer v8 gas trucks for the personal use.
@tommyhawk906
@tommyhawk906 3 года назад
A semi and light duty diesel drive WAY different. Hop in one and you’ll see
@Jaimeleon20
@Jaimeleon20 3 года назад
@@tommyhawk906 haha I know I was just giving my credibility with my big diesel truck. I also have a 2008 Ram 4x4 with the 6.7 Cummins but I use that as a service truck. It’s nice with torq for pulling up hills but like I said I still prefer myTundra for regular daily/personal Driving.
@Alexanderofthe9th
@Alexanderofthe9th 2 года назад
@@Jaimeleon20 im in a kenworth all day too I definitely understand you. Sometimes you just wanna hear a v8 instead of another diesel that reminds you of work lol
@iGoFeed
@iGoFeed 3 года назад
I recently bought an 04 Silverado 2500 with the gas engine. It was only at 90k and I got it for 10k. An equivalent truck with the duramax would’ve been easily 20k. Especially down here in Florida were stuff lasts. It works good for me it gets terrible fuel economy but the duramax of that year wouldn’t do much better. Overall it’s dang near the same truck, put a lift and running 35”s and it handles it no problem. Really all I could afford was a 10 thousand dollar vehicle since I don’t finance so the gasser was a no brainer at that point. In a perfect world tho, I’d take the diesel all day.
@berrymucuckiner4890
@berrymucuckiner4890 3 года назад
All you “gas mileage” guys... in most states. Diesel is more than premium gas fuel... do the math.... it DOENST WORK OUT!
@w900kw2
@w900kw2 3 года назад
The only diesel I will ever own is my 7.3 and f250 6.2 gas .. they aren't racecars they are work trucks that make me money without having to put much into them every year
@Trumptrain2024Vance
@Trumptrain2024Vance 3 года назад
2000 F350 crew cab 7.3 diesel dually baby! with only 135 k miles!!!! Trump 2024
@justine8623
@justine8623 3 года назад
I feel like options like the new gas 7.3 make diesels seem like more of a hassle. Unless ur towing a lot all the time, the extra failure points dont seem worth the added 8k to the already horrifying price of new trucks.
@jc7435
@jc7435 2 года назад
This
@JavTheRipper
@JavTheRipper 3 года назад
Already decided but JEEZ the video quality had me hooked to this video! Great job man!!
@NavySturmGewehr
@NavySturmGewehr 3 года назад
This video should have been about eighteen seconds long: A pickup isn't a pickup without a turbo diesel.
@fagan327
@fagan327 3 года назад
Yea I guess the first few decades of trucks weren’t real😂 dummy
@NavySturmGewehr
@NavySturmGewehr 3 года назад
@@fagan327 That is correct sir. All garbage.
@darkendbeing
@darkendbeing 3 года назад
I mean I’d take a 54-56 f100 with a flathead over any diesel period.
@NavySturmGewehr
@NavySturmGewehr 3 года назад
@@darkendbeing Yeah maybe if you wanted something to look at. I learned to drive in a '39 Ford with the flat-head V8. Good engine. Still garbage compared to a modern turbo diesel.
@danielerickson4893
@danielerickson4893 3 года назад
4:07 I like how the guy looks back at the truck lol
@anthonynardella8907
@anthonynardella8907 3 года назад
His pricing on the gas vs. diesel is stupid. The value difference is roughly the price difference of a diesel over a gas. Duh!
@j.dsanchez9267
@j.dsanchez9267 3 года назад
Dope video as always great content and badass how you don’t bash gas trucks and just put out key points 👍🏽
@JustDiesels
@JustDiesels 3 года назад
Yep! I've owned gas and diesel and for me diesel just makes sense! There's plenty of times where gas can make more sense too though. All depends on your needs and use!
@harrisonmcgill2307
@harrisonmcgill2307 3 года назад
I have a 2000 f250 7.3l and a 2009 dodge ram 2500 5.7 Hemi. And both are great trucks.
@hitempguy
@hitempguy 3 года назад
Incoming long rant: 01-04 Duramax - $3000 for injectors alone 6.0L powerstroke - egr cooler, headgaskets that require the cab to come off, $$$$$ All diesels - DPF, DEF, CP4 equipped trucks without liftpumps All diesels prior to about 2015 - transmissions that start at $3500usd and up for rebuilds While I agree that diesels are great in big, heavy trucks doing big, heavy work, the fact is that half tons are rated to tow over 10k lbs nowadays and 95% of the publics driving never sees them hitch a trailer up. The 2021 F150 with the itty bitty 2.7 is rated to tow 10k lbs and can get 24usmpg on the highway, while being a comfier, easier to maneuver daily driver. I love my diesel trucks, but since about 2016+, unless you tow more than 10,000 miles per year, diesel 3/4 and 1 tons are less necessary then they were in the prior decade when 1/2 tons were saddled with lousy drivetrains. I almost bought an older duramax this weekend and was going to sell my 2020 F150. After doing some deep thinking and spreadsheeting, it made no sense to pay $12-$15k for a high mile diesel. Used transmissions are $800usd for my F150 all day long and the 10R80 can handle anything short of modern day diesel torque. The engine bay is wide open and roomy. With a tune, it makes 400hp and 500tq. The truck weighs 5k lbs, not 8k lbs. I've towed 11k lbs with it (dump trailer with a skidsteer in it) down the highway for a couple hours, never a concern. Tires, brakes, etc etc are all less money overall. Modern day gas trucks are retaining their value better as the drivetrains have become more durable. Hell, the aforementioned 2.7 ecoboost is made with the same block material as modern diesels. With a tune, said 2.7 can run 13 flat in the 1/4. So I think the video is a bit biased. The costs to fix diesel pickups in general grossly outpaces an equivalent gas engine, and further to that, we haven't even brought up cold weather performance. I might get back into a diesel someday if I start hauling a two car enclosed race car trailer again, the F150 will be fine occasionally towing a 28' footer.
@hondashadow8379
@hondashadow8379 3 года назад
Gas is good where I live because in -40 I can count on it starting everytime
@rubenwong9574
@rubenwong9574 3 года назад
My 08 5.3 sierra towing 7,000lbs 7mpg at 65 and it downs shift like crazy uphills my 02 duramax towing 7tons 15mpg at 65mph does not downshift going uphills
@danielservin2450
@danielservin2450 3 года назад
Those Chevy 5.3/5.7 motors with the afm are ass. They shutoff 4 cylinders at low rpm. Feels like the vehicles is broken haha. Not too mention they have lifter failures if you dont do on time oil changes.
@rubenwong9574
@rubenwong9574 3 года назад
I do my oil changes every 10kmiles i use valvoline full synthetic and a qrt of lucas oil stabalizer am on 385xxx miles never had to engine work only oil pan gasket and head valve gasket no knocking yet
@datguy8371
@datguy8371 3 года назад
You did miss one important factor in the gas/diesel comparison. A lot of guys buy trucks to haul things, not tow. The Ram Cummins version is about 1,000 lbs heavier than the Hemi version. So you lose a half ton of payload in that HD truck. That's not such a big deal if you're buying the 3500, with the base trim payload being nearly 7,000 lbs (Hemi) and 6,000 lbs (Cummins). But it's a much bigger impact on the 2500 where the base trim payload is around 3,000 lbs (Hemi) versus 2,000 lbs (Cummins)..
@brendanclark81
@brendanclark81 3 года назад
This is a good point. If payload and staying within the manufacturers' max ratings is a concern (it really should be) a 3/4 ton diesel is a very obsolete truck. If going diesel, always get the 1 ton.
@JustDiesels
@JustDiesels 3 года назад
Yep that’s definitely a factor especially on the new Ram 2500s which have an extremely low payload in higher diesel trims!
@fit4ya1975
@fit4ya1975 3 года назад
My payload is 3147lbs. I have the 2020 Denali 2500 Duramax.
@brendanclark81
@brendanclark81 3 года назад
@@fit4ya1975 What's the GVWR of your truck?
@fit4ya1975
@fit4ya1975 3 года назад
@@brendanclark81 11,350
@claytonsuarez8276
@claytonsuarez8276 3 года назад
I love driving my 97 12v she's a dog, definitely even with me messing with the fuel plate, had 2 case trucks in my life and honestly I'm 99% positive I'm sticking with Diesels. My 03 lb7 put that final nail in the coffin to the diesel world
@Ranshazzam
@Ranshazzam 3 года назад
Diesel is great until it breaks $$$$
@anthonycoffey9412
@anthonycoffey9412 3 года назад
I just hope I inherit my grandfather's 1st gen dodge ram with dat 12v cummins 😅 little beat up but am absolute tank!
@andrewchan9925
@andrewchan9925 3 года назад
Yep! 1st and 2nd gen. are highly sort after.
@asherseverson5378
@asherseverson5378 3 года назад
I see 2012 Cummins with 250k go for 25,000 all the time. The hemis go for about 12k in the same condition in my area.
@JustDiesels
@JustDiesels 3 года назад
Agreed. The KBB values don’t accurately reflect the price gap!
@seansmith6377
@seansmith6377 3 года назад
Our 7.3 has 500k. Still runs great, 2md trans, 1st engine
@anthonymaddox2761
@anthonymaddox2761 3 года назад
I work for a EMS agency that has both diesel and gas vehicles. The diesels are definitely more responsive and have a lot better fuel economy.
@jeremynelson8496
@jeremynelson8496 3 года назад
I would have to agree with you. Seems the new price of gas or diesel trucks is so close but the resale after 150k miles is so much greater with diesel trucks, it makes sense to take the hit up front.
@danerickson1733
@danerickson1733 3 года назад
Lol 90% of the nerds that own them don't need them.
@Ulfstigandr
@Ulfstigandr 2 года назад
Im of the camp: why not both? Of course my newest vehicle is my 96 7.3. One of my favorites is my project 57 with an IH 392
@scshufran251
@scshufran251 2 года назад
Most of the diesel mechanics that I know prefer owning a gas truck vs diesel. Why? Because of the overall simplicity of maintenance and low cost of ownership. Also, most diesel truck owners get sucked into hype and allure of the diesel engine that can generate "bookoo" torque and HP numbers. However, the vast majority of these diesel truck owners rarely tow anything. And, if they do tow a trailer or RV, it will be very infrequently (i.e 'maybe' a couple times a year). Thus, if you own a rig that does a significant amount of towing then, a diesel truck makes complete sense. However, if your trucks usage is more daily driver or making a once-in-a-while run to the local Home Depot, your wasting money owning a diesel. Just like my diesel mechanic friends told me when I was looking to buy my last HD truck, stay away from a diesel if you don't have a real need for frequent heavy towing.
@Bingusginghs
@Bingusginghs 3 года назад
Just bought a Chevy Colorado with the 2.8l duramax. Never going back to gas
@Christian_Fuhrman
@Christian_Fuhrman 3 года назад
I have a 08 ram 2500 mega cab 4 x 4 however it does have a hemi I use it for lawn care and landscape end it is more than enough power however I think just about anybody will admit that diesels are way cooler Jesus bless y’all.
@amirkazemi2517
@amirkazemi2517 3 года назад
the difference could just be the initial premium difference....so both depreciate somewhat the same, but the diesel is more because it was more new?
@surfstarcc1
@surfstarcc1 3 года назад
Still running my second gen Cummins, but I also have a gasser for shot round town trips.
@dallasjames4272
@dallasjames4272 6 месяцев назад
Which that makes sense right there.
@lylebonney3081
@lylebonney3081 3 года назад
Diesel wins for sure all things considered but the Achilles heel to diesel is super cold weather
@brandonmick9191
@brandonmick9191 3 года назад
The achilles heel is emissions on all the new diesels.... its tough to justify a diesel today with all at that garbage unless you are towing heavy daily
@enriquepalomino8636
@enriquepalomino8636 3 года назад
Got a duramax with 194k deleted egr 5inch straight pipe still running strong
@joaquinelectric1
@joaquinelectric1 2 месяца назад
Bro I’m about to buy 2020 Chevrolet Silverado duramax 3.0 diesel what do you think should I go for it
@SpiritualityLife77
@SpiritualityLife77 2 года назад
I would choose the diesel one. Love the cluttering engine noise. Sound cool.
@SuperDriver379
@SuperDriver379 3 года назад
I work in the heavy light duty to medium duty truck industry and have for a decade, i've gotten rid of all my diesels just because of the high maintenance costs and special treatment you have to give the diesels. (very clean fuel, warmup and cooldown, employees aren't as versed in diesel procedures as I am) I respect what they're capable of but just can't justify the extra cost of having the rattle machine under the hood, I pull bulldozers, backhoes and aggregate with small block GM engines, for years and have only needed cheap regular maintenance, before I owned this company I drove local Class A then Hotshot work for about 10 years (18 wheel truck and one ton W/trailer), so I am familiar with Diesel trucks both class 8 oversize, overweight, driven the major 3 north american 3500 with a gooseneck trailer. but now that I have to do the maintenance and pay the bills, simple pushrod gasoline does the job and does it cheap. Just my opinion. Like the channel keep it up.
@chrissilva5868
@chrissilva5868 3 года назад
Cummins is the only choice. We only buy cummins at my company we have fleet trucks with 800,000 miles still running everday best mpg and power! Cost is very minimal with a cummins cp3 and cummins injectors last forever and our fuel cost is very very low. 06 cummins they go anywhere from 10k- 35k in texas
@stuartb5803
@stuartb5803 3 года назад
Your data shows they drop at the same rate, if diesel dropped 5k that year then gas also dropped 5k. If you start with two numbers and subtract the same amount from both, then the bigger number is still going to be bigger... it doesn't mean it 'holds value' better, it just means you started with a bigger number. It's like thinking you make more money by selling 1000 dollar items for 1002 dollars than you do by selling 5 dollar items for 7 dollars - you don't, it's still just 2 dollars. Basically your video claims diesel has a higher initial cost, higher running cost, higher maintenance/repair cost and is bad for short drives to the store while losing the same amount of value per year as a gas truck. Not that there is anything wrong with that, it's all a trade off and comes down to personal preference, i'd rather have 25-35 honda civics than 1 lambo but others would take the lambo all day everyday.
@d3j051
@d3j051 3 года назад
I agree, diesel resale makes up for the initial cost and lower fuel cost and a stronger better performance and livability make diesel much more enjoyable. I have the Cummins in a 3500 dually and love that Cummins motor.
@jameswkndmechanic174
@jameswkndmechanic174 3 года назад
The difference in re-sale you displayed was very similar to the initial extra cost of the diesel engine.
@JustDiesels
@JustDiesels 3 года назад
Exactly, so you get your initial investment back, plus more since the discrepancy between the two isn't accurately reflected by KBB.
@ricklp1861
@ricklp1861 3 года назад
Diesels all day!! Just for the resale value it's worth the extra cost!!
@brandontormaschy6977
@brandontormaschy6977 3 года назад
👈 indeed 😉
@cencoast_7.340
@cencoast_7.340 3 года назад
I agree with the majority of this. I do however feel that there is a stigma that if you’re pulling “heavy” loads that diesel is the only way to go. Honestly most modern gas trucks are incredibly capable of hauling these loads. People get it stuck I. Their heads that “I work my trucks hard so I need diesel” when in reality we’re talking pretty short trips with weight that’s not even considered that excessive. I used my 1997 Single cab short bed 2wd Chevy with the Small V-8 (305) to pull a 1972 K10 (lifted) on a car hauler from Paso Robles to Chico (7 hours) up grades, flats etc. and it made it fine. Not recommending it but just picture the size difference and it did it.
@dozerboyd8784
@dozerboyd8784 3 года назад
Definitely our 2015+ GMs gassers pull pretty good and the 7.3 ford is a beast.
@Harry-zz2oh
@Harry-zz2oh 3 года назад
@@dozerboyd8784 Have you driven a Ford with the 7.3 gas engine? What did you learn from it.
@TheCoralSniper
@TheCoralSniper 3 года назад
love your videos! I'm a complete diesel guy aswell. if you ever want to do a video on a humvee your welcome to drive mine and check it out, its my daily driver with a 6.5 but planning to drop a 5.9 in it.
@ryansaunders661
@ryansaunders661 3 года назад
Always wanted a diesel but man do people want ridiculous prices for the dodges😂
@truckerbj
@truckerbj 3 года назад
It's the cummins that make it what it is. It the most reliable engine of the 3.
@chadklein2135
@chadklein2135 3 года назад
Just traded in my 18 power wagon for a 19 2500 Cummins and you couldn’t be more spot on about fuel economy, and value retention! In my area in Colorado I had been seeing 100k plus 2013 or older 6.7 Cummins selling for 37k that’s around all my power wagon was worth at 2 years old with 50k on it! I loved my power wagon but getting 5 mpg up a steep incline in Colorado was ridiculous my Cummins gets triple that!
@Harry-zz2oh
@Harry-zz2oh 3 года назад
That is an eye opener. I have the Cummins and it does pretty good now, but when I first bought it the EGR stuff was a PITA to keep it working. If I sell it (08 Dodge 2500 QC) maybe I should take it to Colorado to sell since it has under 73,000 miles. Locally in New Mexico, one dealership has "offered" $17,000 but I haven't agreed to sell it yet. I've added a few things for camping & stuff so it has another $2,000~ $3,000 worth of stuff on it.
@chadklein2135
@chadklein2135 3 года назад
Big market in Colorado for diesel and any vehicle on average seems to sell/cost more in this state! Definitely worth a shot! Even advertising it in Colorado on Facebook market place would probably get it sold!
@Harry-zz2oh
@Harry-zz2oh 3 года назад
@@chadklein2135 I'll keep it in mind. Once this pandemic is more under control I'll feel more like travelling. Neither my wife or I want to risk anything right now. I have relatives in the State, so I think I can find a market and a place to stay if I go that route. It is a good idea, since I'm sure the local dealer won't give with me as much as I would like to get.
@kurtklimisch7498
@kurtklimisch7498 3 года назад
Spending more on a truck today to get that same amount back in a few years means you lost money. Take that $6,000 you saved and put in the stock market, by the time you sell your truck it will be worth a lot more than $6,000. Average 100 year return on the S&P 500 is 10%. So that $6,000 differential needs to be $9,700 after 5 years, $12,860 after 8 years and $15,562 after 10 years. So by you figures the Diesel is not the way to go.
@5stardave
@5stardave 3 года назад
So the used diesel is still about $6,000 or $7,000 more than the gas. I'll take the TRX. Diesel mechanics charge more, oil changes cost more. All fuel stations have gasoline, not all have diesel.
@muddywolfe1018
@muddywolfe1018 3 года назад
why would you compare it to a truck that has 10:1 compression ratio? it takes premium gas that cost even more then diesel? should compare it to a normal 5.9 gas!!!!
@codcade
@codcade 3 года назад
Huh? The magnum wasn’t offered in these examples dude, the hemi is the standard option
@muddywolfe1018
@muddywolfe1018 3 года назад
@@codcade Im saying compare the 5.9 diesel to the 5.9 gas!
@amolinari9
@amolinari9 3 года назад
I know resale value is the real kicker for diesel trucks, but what if you’re someone who doesn’t sell your trucks? I keep mine til they die. Hence why I’ve only ever owned 2 trucks (both gas one a v6 and the other hemi). I want a diesel but living in FL where it’s flat and I don’t tow it has just never made economical sense for me as I bought both trucks brand new. If I were to get a diesel I’d want a Cummins pre-emissions so a 2011 2500/3500 youngest.
@davidsager3343
@davidsager3343 3 года назад
Havent even watched the video. Always get the diesel. Lol! Jk.
@colton7410
@colton7410 3 года назад
Fuel filter every 15k miles vs a fuel filter every 40k miles... DEF fluid every few weeks... emissions delete is ($3,000)... Resell value is not really more when the price of the vehicle was already more than a gas to begin with. If a new diesel is $10,000 more than a gas of course you’ll be able to sell it for $10k more later.. you have already put up the extra $10k bucks for the bigger diesel motor. So in conclusion if you have paid out $10,000 more how can you say you make $10,000 more when you resell it you’re not making money by reselling it. Also realistically most people these days get a loan on a new truck so if it’s 10k more than a gas truck with a 2% interest rate which is low you’re now paying $200 a month in interest to say you drive a big bad diesel. 😆
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