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Gatekeeping, Elitism and Expenses in Self-Publishing (a Threads discussion gone rogue 👀 ) 

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I’m V A Winter, an indie author, professional beta reader, sensitivity reader, and editor-in-training. I focus on speculative fiction and issues around representation in literature.
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Claire Fenby, who talks about working in traditional publishing, amongst her other bookish content: / @claire_fenby
The UK Publishing Workforce: Diversity, Inclusion and Belonging in 2022: www.publishers.org.uk/publica...
New Lee & Low Diversity Baseline Survey Finds Minor Changes: www.publishersweekly.com/pw/b...
Bookseller’s working-class survey, three years on: www.thebookseller.com/spotlig...
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@piapeijainen
@piapeijainen 11 дней назад
This is very interesting video. No such research has been done in the field of literature in Finland. Only and only the cinema students do research every summer on the representation of Finnish films. About a year ago one male (I think he was some kind of gatekeeper position) wrote an opinion peace and said that we don't have a working-class writers in Finland who writes about working-class people. Thing is that he haven't read fantasy and YA. He haven't recognized a craftsmen work in fantasy and maybe working class writers want a little escape form the reality and they prefer write fantasy. At least two writers I follow on social media. But it was rare conversation in here, because we rarely recognize classes in Finland although we have many social classes. But it is new thing so people might rather discuss is it real or imagination than about it. I have heard from few writers/ authors that it is possible to do indie publishing in Finland, but if it is almost impossible to even get sold books through traditional publishing, because no one have the money to marketing and newspapers or tv won't do litterature criticism, book tips nor other stories. Even bookstores do not stock all traditionally published books. Because they value only certain type of books, you know, what serious white men and women who have right thoughts are writing about. Although we have vivid genre litterature, bookstores prefer to fill their shelves with serious and respected Finnish adult litterature and translated English genre litterature (or not translated, I'm sure you know that we are a small language group, so there are people who don't read books in Finnish at all, even though it is their mother tongue). So how is it possible to sell indie books here when you don't hear about them. Anyway these are just some random thoughts while watching your video. And your website looked really great.
@vawinter
@vawinter 8 дней назад
That's really interesting about representation in Finland - as well as a lack of working class writers, or a lack of knowledge of working class writers. That's definitely my area of passion within literature, so it's really interesting to hear about it from another country's perspective. I haven't had the opportunity to do a really deep dive into it yet, but I think even in the English-speaking world, there's maybe more working class writers in the fantasy genre. Maybe because, as you say, we like to escape the world and imagine a different/better one. I'd love to go back to university and do some real research into all this. Maybe one day! And I have heard that self-publishing can be more difficult in non-English languages, because I suppose you have a naturally smaller audience. It sounds like, from what you've said, you have less genre fiction in Finnish? Or perhaps it's less well-marketed/stocked? Thank you for your thoughts and comments :) Always appreciated!
@piapeijainen
@piapeijainen 6 дней назад
@@vawinter "And I have heard that self-publishing can be more difficult in non-English languages, because I suppose you have a naturally smaller audience." Exactly. "It sounds like, from what you've said, you have less genre fiction in Finnish? Or perhaps it's less well-marketed/stocked?" Of course, the volume on offer is smaller, but compared to the size of the language group, it is abundant and high-quality. So I would say, the last one. And if book does well by marketing it a new way, critics will not accept the marketing and write about it widely and loudly. I have noticed that when I try to write more complex ideas in English, it becomes difficult. You have to say things so differently. Even for Finnish taste, my sentences are too long and rambling :D
@otherworldlyfiction
@otherworldlyfiction 9 дней назад
It's certainly a contentious debate for some people. I posted a video on my own RU-vid channel, discussing my reasons for why I might not be able to hire an editor, and why it might not be the best route for other authors, going through everything from the fact my book would be unlikely to earn that money back to the fact I had multiple books I wanted to publish and would need to pay for. My ultimate sentiment was that, if I could afford it, I'd pay for an editor, because I value the work they do, but that, if I couldn't afford it, I'd rather release an okay book than not release one at all. Many authors in a similar boat to mine felt seen by my commentary, but one author called me dangerous - he accused me of "handing out tide pods" to other vulnerable writers who would take my advice. He'd published one book, and it's my guess that he, having spent the $2000 on an editor, or gone the traditional route, felt threatened in a sense. After all, if my book did well without "paying my dues," it would mean, in a sense, he'd wasted his own money. That's just my guess, but suffice it to say that some people feel very strongly about this. Just for expressing my concerns around the affordability of editing (and even the practicality of spending $2000 on something, even if I did have the money, on something unlikely to earn that money back) I was called dangerous! Like you, I didn't grow up with a lot of money, even with family support, so I have learned to be very cautious with the money I do have. Sorry for the rant, but this is a great discussion and I wish more people would talk about this.
@vawinter
@vawinter 8 дней назад
It is a difficult discussion, and I think as long as we're having a balanced, nuanced discussion, and not telling anyone else how to write/edit/produce their books, then all opinions are valid. As I said in the video, unfortunately, there's a lot of elitism in the industry, and it's a wide-spread issue. Those who have always had the money, often can't understand those who don't/never have. It's a similar thing to snobbery in literature, which is another thing I can't stand. The idea that we 'shouldn't' read certain books because they're not 'high-brow' enough. It's infuriating. At the end of the day, it's down to the readers to decide whether a book is good or not, whether they want to buy it/read it. If it's good, no reader will ever know whether it was professionally edited or not. Thank you for your comment on this. And good luck with your writing and books :)
@otherworldlyfiction
@otherworldlyfiction 7 дней назад
@@vawinter Couldn’t agree more! The snobbery in literature also bothers me - just the other day I had someone tell me a couple books I liked were “trash,” to “get off BookTok,” and find a “good” romance book when I mentioned a couple books I liked in a discussion.
@palarildwoje9995
@palarildwoje9995 10 дней назад
Thank you for a very interesting video! I'd love to take you up on your offer, but I don't know how solid your norwegian is. ;)
@vawinter
@vawinter 8 дней назад
You're welcome :) And unfortunately, my Norwegian certainly isn't very good! Though I'd love to be bilingual!
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