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Welcome to Keybored! Gateron INK BLACKS for More than 50% OFF? Finally, a BUDGET INK BLACK... GATERON CAP V2 Switch
Don't get me wrong... the Gateron Cap V1 switches were not that good... They were scratchy, sounded about average and we're even that cheap.
However, Gateron took those learnings back and brought out the V2... Did an overhaul and gave us a budget Ink Black! Take a look!
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Chapters
Start - 0:00
Cap Switch History and Intro - 0:32
The Benchmark: Gateron Ink Black - 1:55
Gateron Ink Black Sound Test - 2:11
Cap V2 Intro - 3:02
What Changed? - 3:24
V1 Vs. V2 Scratch Test - 4:32
Gateron Switch Sound Comparisons - 5:04
Cap V2 Vs. Ink Black Head to Head - 6:10
Cap V2 Vs. Ink Black Typing Head to Head - 6:45
Stem Wobble - 8:14
Switch Comparison Chart - 9:35
Spring Swap? - 12:16
Final Thoughts - 12:41
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@marcocarag103 3 года назад

Great review! It's interesting that you questioned why they bothered with a v2 when the v1 was so poorly received. In my mind, that's EXACTLY why you try again, and it shows Gateron is willing to grow from their failures (and they succeeded!).

@IronCan88 3 года назад

Actually it would have been easier to just make the new product under a new naming instead of a v2 of a failure product. Because people will be more curious and willing to try the new product. So I too agree it's a weird decision they made, and now they need reviews to help gain back trust in this series. Imagine people who bought the first version and we're disappointed,. How likely are they to want to try v2, when the options are countless in the linear switches?

@marcocarag103 3 года назад

@@IronCan88 Yeah, I get what you're saying -- the first impression for Cap switches was bad, and that biases customers against future Caps to some extent. I can also see it being confusing for customers; now we need to sort through things and make sure we're buying V2s rather than V1s (doesn't help that they look pretty much identical), at least until the inventory's been exhausted. But there's trade-offs with full-on renaming, too; it's a non-trivial effort to do so. It takes time and work to plan out a new product launch. Perhaps purely an internal clerical, marketing, and bureaucratic effort, but effort nonetheless -- versus just updating with a V2 (and a legitimately solid set of improvements in the physical product). And it's debatable whether the failures of V1 will truly matter much at all in the long term. With quick fixing of issues (and I consider 7-ish months to be pretty quick), and a few positive reviews from RU-vid and elsewhere, memories of V1 failure can fade and V2 and beyond more likely define its growing success. Soon enough, the inevitable new customers won't even realize there was a V1. And all without needing to expend the effort of launching a rename.

@marcocarag103 3 года назад

@@IronCan88 Also, I just tried to buy some Cap V2 Milkys...and they're all sold out on Elboard. 😞 So, in terms of who would buy V2 -- seems like for the moment plenty of folks would (unfortunately for me, as I think I would prefer the Milky to the Golden).

@IronCan88 3 года назад

@@marcocarag103 yeah I like tactile but this video got me interested in trying linear, but I also noticed from yesterday it was out of stock already. Will just play with my boba u4t and sunflower switches for now. Love the tactile feedback and thock sound o. These switches.

@Keybored 3 года назад

You are right about that!

@CitizenErased181 3 года назад

Great video! It's nice to see switch manufacturers trying to innovate rather than just releasing more recolors.

@Keybored 3 года назад

Thank you Yancey! Yup! The v1 was so so, but the v2 was definitely an improvement

@g00pey92 3 года назад

cough cough JWK

@Mike-ei8qj 3 года назад

@@g00pey92 Nice couch

@Instinct0425 3 года назад

like kaihua/kailh with their box switches and choc switches

@MasterBepis 3 года назад

I'm blown away. Crazy how different the V2s are from the V1s. And the cap v2 gold sounds like wood dropping softly on top of each other. Such a beautiful sound.

@Keybored 3 года назад

It does have a very nice poppy sound! I have been enjoying them in this KBD67

@jakobdingsbums5661 3 года назад

Suggestion: You make a live-file (Like a Google doc or smth) of the "Switch Performance Comparisons"-chard. In this you put every switch you review. This would help especially newcomer to the hobby to figure out what switch they want. We could put links to reviews and (if available) shops to buy. (You could put your Coupon Codes there too)

@Keybored 3 года назад

Great suggestion!

@nenwhen6727 3 года назад

YES

@nenwhen6727 3 года назад

@@Keybored PLEASE

@pizzaisoxygen 3 года назад

@@Keybored If u do that I will literally only use you as my reference for future switch purchases

@patchcs 2 года назад

Just bought some with your code! Thank you for a great review.

@Keybored 2 года назад

:) Thanks kevin! I hope you enjoy them!

@Matthew-rf9ic 3 года назад

Dang your videos are SO GOOOOD. Keep going at it man :]

@Keybored 3 года назад

Thank you Matthew! Will keep putting out new content!

@colinhendry6116 3 года назад

Loved the informative vid! I have gat black inks for my 60%, but really was not looking forward to buying another 80-90 for a 75%. This looks like a really good alternative

@Keybored 3 года назад

I was surprised also! I hated the v1 but at the price, the v2 are pretty good

@keagan5379 3 года назад

It’s awesome to see some innovation. I’m hoping that other manufacturers will do the same and maybe eventually they will venture outside of the cherry mx design of switches. Great video.

@Keybored 3 года назад

:) Thank you! It's good to see progress being made

@miguelsanchez8502 3 года назад

Quality content again and again and again! Keep it up!

@Keybored 3 года назад

Thank you Miguel! Thank you for watching and supporting the channel!

@leem0401 3 года назад

The new king of budget thock! Almost half the price of Ink Blacks but very similar sound profile.

@Keybored 3 года назад

Yup! Quite surprising how close they sound to each other lol

@lxgilimxns367 2 года назад

looove this vid. tysm!!

@notusingthis600 2 года назад

Thanks for the comparison. I was going crazy trying to know the difference between the 67 different variations of Gateron Yellows. Definetely the Cap v2 Golds are the best followed by the Mllky v2.

@Keybored 2 года назад

:) there are so many variations! I would say I like the Cap V2s, then the new Pro switches, then KS-3 Yellow, then the milky yellows

@ukann 2 года назад

@@Keybored Could you elaborate on why you prefer the Cap V2's over the Pro? I'm trying to decide between these 2.

@NicoVolij 3 года назад

i was looking for some ink blacks to buy the past couple months and seeing this new switch at this price is kind of insane!

@Keybored 3 года назад

If you're going just for the sound, the Cap V2 is actually really close to it! The Ink Blacks are smoother in off-center pushes, but if that doesn't matter too much, it doesn't offer too much more it seems

@SaulMaddox 3 года назад

The Gateron Cap V1 Gold with the Gateron Cap V1 Milky Stem removes the scratch and is actually really nice with the same deep sound. I will have to try the V2's. Thanks for the info!

@Keybored 3 года назад

:) It looks like that is like Cap V1.5! Creative solution!

@eliasvaly2273 3 года назад

Very nice video as always

@Keybored 3 года назад

Thank you Elias! Thank you for the support always!

@michaeljames1334 3 года назад

interesting. looks like i have to get some of these now.

@Keybored 3 года назад

:) For the price, they punch way above their weight!

@tapsumbong49 3 года назад

Excellent content as always, cap switches definitely seem like a good bang for your buck. Is it still worth the price increase for the inks if you have the budget for it?

@Keybored 3 года назад

Hmm... I think if you have the budget for it, you get the corner smoothness improvement with the Inks! Personally, I think I like the sound of the Cap V2s because they have more pop than the inks. But off center presses do feel better with inks. So if you focus on sound, then the Cap V2s and if you care more about smoothness, then inks!

@sori6524 2 года назад

great review!

@Keybored 2 года назад

Thank you so mo!

@TheMrInadecuada 2 года назад

Got the milky cap v2s and I should say that they are really inconsistent with the factory lube. Also, the stem wobble is great on these, my spacebar is swinging wildly and it's really irritating. Also, without lube they sound so bad.. Scratch is on the next level. I think it's all thanks to the "innovation" in the stem tech. The "cap" on the stem is not smooth inside, it rides on the bottom housing's guide rod on 4 ridges molded inside the cap. So if those ridges are not sufficiently lubed, the switch sounds extremely scratchy and as I said previously, the lube is inconsistent from the factory. Maybe it could be a great switch for some, the sound is unique, really poppy, but I think the Gat Yellow Pro is a way to go. At least the tolerances are really tight and you can experiment with springs on the pros. Cap springs are basically irreplaceable. So, think twice before buying them as your first step into the keyboard hobby.

@MASTER5537 3 года назад

Really useful info!

@Keybored 3 года назад

Thank you!

@ckchrisw 3 года назад

I was one of the crowds that tried the Cap v1's, didn't know they came out with v2's, and it sounds absolute amazeballs!! Thanks for the thorough video! Was wondering how you procured them? The official Gateron Taobao store did not explicitly list Cap v2 yellows (only Cap v2 browns).

@Keybored 3 года назад

I got them from Elboard! I think they're the only US proxy that sells the V2s for now. I put their info in the description :)

@KeenyNewton 3 года назад

At 05:20 with 4 different sound tests, across 2 different switches, lubed and all, how is your keyboard at the same place. Awesome stuff man. Awesome!!!

@unkkit151 3 года назад

It’s pretty easy to swap out switches without moving your keyboard right?

@KeenyNewton 3 года назад

@@unkkit151 sure it is. What I assumed is all the switches were changed. Typically the before & after is after the whole process .. but this most likely is all these variations are ready. Still, impressive, the seamless video cut work.

@8bitsamurai6 3 года назад

So many switches these days. Glad we got alot of new players in the market like ktt and tecsee. Just ordered some akkos to test out some budget options. I actually kinda liked the milky gat caps. Good for a cheap thokky options that already decent lubed.

@Keybored 3 года назад

You can never go wrong with milky gats of any kind! But it was really good to see gateron make improvements over the generation. And I do love that there are so many different options now!

@Kila4nia 3 года назад

my V2's are coming in today I cant wait!!!!

@Kila4nia 3 года назад

I got them in my TM680 with noico inside and lubed Gat cap v2's with 205g0 and filmed with durock films these things are the truth much THOCC!

@Keybored 3 года назад

Glad to hear that! I hope you enjoy them!

@tunasu9182 3 года назад

very interesting, might get some of them to try out

@Keybored 3 года назад

:) worth a try! They were surprising to me with their sound and overall performance

@user-kz9rz8ui1c 3 года назад

I would love to see how the cap v2s perform against the gateron pros. The gateron pros I received were just as smooth as the gat ink I have.

@Keybored 3 года назад

I am also very interested in this. Are the gateron pros also as thocky as the inks?

@user-kz9rz8ui1c 3 года назад

@@Keybored they were not quite as deep, but they sound pretty similar after fully lubing the bottom housing.

@user-kz9rz8ui1c 3 года назад

@@Keybored another thing I think I should mention, if some of your switches have some initial scratch (for me it was 3 of 10) look into the lubing of the stem pole. Since it is thicker, it causes a thockier sound but at the same time causes scratch. The actual stem lubrication was very consistent and smooth otherwise.

@oliverjorgensen8665 2 года назад

@@Keybored If possible, please make a follow up video in this format with the pros added. I love your review and how you compare them relatively to eachother on different factors. Great video!

@devinlehman8798 Год назад

I just ordered the ks3 yellow milky pro, starting to think i should have ordered these now, but we'll see! These are my first purchase if i don't like the yellow milky pros

@HybRidChrome 3 года назад

Very exciting sunshine switch ^^

@Keybored 3 года назад

Sunshine, egg yolk for sure haha

@tremolo_truong 3 года назад

Hey Scott, great video as always! Thank you! I'm looking to get the exact pegboard you have right now, nay I ask where you got it from?

@Keybored 3 года назад

Hi Tremolo! The pegboard is from Ikea! They have various accessories for it!

@tremolo_truong 3 года назад

@@Keybored Thank you so much! Appreciate your dedication to your content and your viewers' comments bro, keep doing what you're doing!

@dhoffnun 3 года назад

I was skeptical, but I have to concur after watching your video. I have some V1's and liked the sound and stable travel feeling, but that was about it. There is a logic to the egg-crate packaging, acrylic over-built version aside - these little guys leak oil, so better onto the bottom of a package than all over each-other. I keep all my switches in jars kind of like yours - except for my Caps.

@Keybored 3 года назад

Oooh you are very right about that! I think going with the thicker lube like Krytox 205 really helps to control it better, since the factory stuff is so light and can come out of the little holes

@BokehhBob 3 года назад

Great review. You should do this with the golden cap browns.

@Keybored 3 года назад

Haha, I do have a bag of the browns also. You know... if you don't mind the loose tactility of the browns, the cap browns are actually very smooth and have similar sound as the yellow... so they're actually not bad lol

@BokehhBob 3 года назад

@@Keybored I’ve always been team linear and been thinking about dabbling in some browns, may check out the cap browns on a 60% build or something and see how i like them.

@jimmynguyen973 3 года назад

Love it, seems like my S-tier switch (regular gat yellows) just got even better! Gotta get myself the v2 w/ milky housing at some point

@Keybored 3 года назад

Hi Jimmy! Thanks for stopping by brother. I remember not liking the Cap v1 and kind of putting them away for good, but V2 is actually not bad! Their off center smoothness could be improved, but overall, center smoothness and the sound is so close to the inks for a fraction of the price!

@jimmynguyen973 3 года назад

@@Keybored ah I meant the regular gat yellows! Never tried the cap v1s

@joe-bw6wy 3 года назад

@@jimmynguyen973 gat yellows real dependable but new budget switches everywhere

@cubixwizard3930 2 года назад

I love that they made the Cap V2 and how close they sound to the black inks. I'm new to this hobby so any cheap alternatives to getting that nice deep thock is always appreciated. Also that set up for your switches looks really clean where did you get it? I would love to have that as well!

@Keybored 2 года назад

The wall setup is from Ikea! I believe it's the skadis peg board organizer? The Cap V2 are amazing, and so are the new pro yellows and even the Keychron Phantom Red with a spring swap!

@cubixwizard3930 2 года назад

@@Keybored more things that I need to look into. Thanks Scott!

@happykeebs168 3 года назад

I personally found cap v1s to sound scratchy but were actually quite smooth in feel. They also have a unique muted sound profile, outside of the scratch. From my batch, I preferred the v1 milky cap switches to the golden. v1 caps were also one of the first major switches to introduce these big springs. Overall, v1 caps were quite underrated

@Keybored 3 года назад

They were so unique when gateron released them, that people were probably expecting so much! But the V2s gateron really made some good improvements for sure :)

@chxlled1029 3 года назад

Compare these to the gateron pro yellow switches! very similar and also I would definitely go over these stock rather than cap v1 as they're prelubed and have longer springs. More similar to standard gateron switch though, just prelubed and tighter tolerances. def would like to see a comparison

@Keybored 3 года назад

Yup! I will buy a batch of those! Heard great things about them

@Holly18th 3 года назад

Yo the v2s sound niceee!!

@Keybored 3 года назад

Hi Holly Poon! The V2s do have a very deep thocky sound! Very close to ink blacks for fraction of the price!

@SenorSaki 2 года назад

I just got a set of Cap V2 Milky Yellow's with new upper housing like that found in the Oil Kings and the Ink V2 Box. Have you seen that before? Do you think that would improve stem wobble due to the better tolerance from the new mold?

@dieheeftjevaderniethe 3 года назад

This was the exact fking thing I was searching for thx brooo

@Keybored 3 года назад

No problem! I hope it helped! I was told there will be more in stock by next week

@dieheeftjevaderniethe 3 года назад

@@Keybored thx man I love ur videos

@muckeyn 2 года назад

Great review/comparison. I have the Milky Cap V2 and Ink Black V2s and it's hard to tell the difference sound-wise unless you really pay attention. The Cap V2s sound and feel quite good out of the box. Stock Cap V2s actually sound a lot better to me than stock Ink V2s (changed drastically for me lubed/filmed). The off-center smoothness is definitely better on the Inks, which have a more noticeable "gliding" feeling. But unless you type with 1-2 fingers very slowly, the Cap V2s are smooth enough I don't feel much of a difference typing regularly. In hindsight, the Inks don't even seem worth the 2.5x cost. If the Inks had the smoothness of a JWK or Everglide Aqua King then maybe...

@Keybored 2 года назад

Yup! the inks are no good stock lol. They NEED lube and film to become the great inks that everyone loves!

@ARCHONFella 2 года назад

Do Gateron Cap V2 have interference on Northfacing LEDs on Cherry MX keycaps?

@zentree9932 3 года назад

I was about to buy gateron yellows for my first build ever and this convinced me to get the cap v2 milky :o

@Keybored 3 года назад

Can't go wrong with either!

@Mike-ei8qj 3 года назад

Wow, pretty lit switch to be honest. From this review, it seems like it's a great choice for those that want to have a good price, smoothness and full/deep sound within their switches. To be honest I think this would be even better than the Ink in some regards (other than the price)... It might work better than the Inks do with a plastic (KBD 67 Lite) board for those like me that dislike the fact inks are a bit too muted/low pitched.

@Keybored 3 года назад

:) I think the cap switches are actually a very good choice for the price. Great sound, smooth center operation, and does pair up well with the kbd67 lite

@chelciep4211 3 года назад

Would love to see you do a video of the tape mod on the 67 lite!

@Keybored 3 года назад

I actually did apply it to this build, but it really didn't do much so I ended up removing it. I think the PE foam mod just overpowers it and I couldn't hear much of a difference... just made the case really tight haha

@thediplomat1124 Год назад

Where did you get your switches display on your wall??? Looks amazing

@calvinlooi4500 3 года назад

Thanks for doing this! Really informative :) May I ask, is there a significant difference between the stock and lubed Cap switch? Am just thinking to just use em stock

@Keybored 3 года назад

The stock is actually very very usable in my opinion. The lubing did make them feel tiny bit more smooth and the filming helped to make the overall housing tight and lower pitched in my opinion

@percy9228 2 года назад

@@Keybored please could you share which is lighter to touch? stock, pro or cat?

@Zeioth Год назад

Awesome review, the only one that cover the V2 caps in depth. EDIT: Now that I look at it again, the central stick of the botton house shouldn't touch anything at all. The top of the cylinder just acts as botton of the keypress. The only thing touching is the bottom housing sliders, as in any other normal switch. Then I don't understand the purpose of it... It's only to let air flow? Does that have some impact on friction? Or is just an easier way to control acustics?

@CaptainYesz Год назад

they mention it should affect acoustics somewhere i've read

@chrislifts7382 3 года назад

I need to know where you got your storage system! Great video!

@flogxze 3 года назад

Looks like Skadis from Ikea to me

@Keybored 3 года назад

Yup! Ikea pegboard system skadis

@dalarcoin6851 2 года назад

I just picked up these switches but the brown variant. Does anyone know of a double stage long spring that fits with this? Or am I stuck with tx?

@danielngo3649 3 года назад

This was a great video as I was planning to build my first keyboard with inks V2 but now I will definitely go for these. Do you have any idea if these will restock at some point since they are currently sold out?

@Keybored 3 года назад

Oooh didn't know they were sold out! Let me try reaching out to the vendor and ask!

@danielngo3649 3 года назад

@@Keybored Thanks!

@JimIBobIJones 2 года назад

Its actually quite clever. From a manufacturing perspective, when you enlarge a components, the impact of tolerances are reduced. You gain the effect of tighter tolerances without needing to increase your manufacturing costs. Essentially, this means they can make more consistent switches whilst keeping costs low.

@Keybored 2 года назад

:) Great insight! I fully agree!

@TheMrInadecuada 2 года назад

So the cap is made out of POM and it gets thinner towards the bottom. When it rides on the guiding rod on 4 ridges molded into the cap it's creating hotspots of pressure on the thin plastic and it bends. It makes the stem really wobbly, especially when it's just pressed. So I think it's really more about saving the cost, there really are less plastic used in each switch.

@JimIBobIJones 2 года назад

@@TheMrInadecuada it can be both. The tolerances are much tighter than any other switch. For example the actuation is +/- 10g on the caps, whereas it's +/- 15 on all other gateron switches, including high end switches like inks. That makes the switches much, much more consistent.

@JimIBobIJones 2 года назад

@@TheMrInadecuada I also think the stem wobble issue was a 1st gen problem that's been fixed in v2. "Teething problems" inevitably occurs with all chinese switches - whether it's gateron or Kalih - as they always seem to rush new products and designs out without fully qcing and testing them. Think ink black leafs falling out or box stems breaking keycaps.

@datdang5042 2 года назад

4:07 the description in the right bottom of the video, is the left housing V2 and right V1? Cuz I can't read Chinease

@oleksandrnazarenko7574 Год назад

Great vid! Thank you, it helped a lot to make a choice on which switches to buy :) What thickness of film have you used for cap v2 golden yellow and which one would you recommend? Thanks in advance!

@huunhanle3809 Год назад

Kinda late but I would recommend thin PC material film around 1.25 - 1.3mm for this switch. If you like a thicker one, I would suggest film made by Deskey.

@hiroyashii 2 года назад

Awesome video! But does CAP v2 interfere with Cherry Profile keycaps?

@Daniel-dj7fh 3 года назад

I personally found that the cap v2's sounded more pop (like popcorn, fits the colors hehe) than the inks, therefore higher pitched. And you mentioned earlier that the milkys sound really close to the inks which doesn't add up to the scaling at ~11:25. Except the difference is so minor that the scale had to be spread apart. Meanin blue switches would be about 2km further to the right towards "high". I've been using milky blacks for a good half year now and I think that my keycaps make more noise than the switch itself.

@Daniel-dj7fh 3 года назад

There is a difference between normal Milkys and cap Milkys right? Or have I been looking at the same switches the whole time

@Keybored 3 года назад

Yup! Different from the Milky and Cap milky and Cap V2 Milky :)

@penguin1714 3 года назад

Got any info on those switch holders? I dont use that many switches, but theyd be sick for other stuff. ALSO, everything you touch is golden. Going to need the secret on that as well =P

@Keybored 3 года назад

Yup! It's the Ikea Pegboard organizer system... Skadis I believe

@khoinguyen-cc3mo 2 года назад

It has a long pole so it doesn’t have keycap interference with cherry profile and thicc keycap?

@danielranleesoria9609 2 года назад

Planning to get this switch for my current board. Do you think this pairs better with what plate material? POM, Polycarb? Fr4?

@Ragnorok64 3 года назад

Very interesting. I've got some CAP Milky Yellow switches that I added to an order to get it to qualify for free shipping, but I think they might be V1. Is the acrylic tray with cover only a V1 thing? Also, keep doing the charts. Since sound tests and that vary so much from content creator to content creator, the perceived performance relative to other switches is super important.

@Keybored 3 года назад

Hi Ragnorok64! If they come in a acrylic case, they may be V1. From what I was told the V2 stopped coming inside those fancy cases... looks like gateron put the money where it needed to go lol

@Ragnorok64 3 года назад

@@Keybored I see. Well I guess they will continue to hang out in my Box O' Switches then, and I'll continue to ignore that spending like $30ish dollars on switches I may never use to avoid like$18 of shipping was a massive logical fallacy. I'll just keep telling myself it was a good deal...

@dylanangkw 2 года назад

im really late but could i ask is there inteference with north fscing leds with these switches?

@jonathanhagerty7174 3 года назад

Very helpful comparison video, it has me sold on getting the CAP V2 Milkys but elboard is sold out! Are there any other places you might recommend buying CAP V2 Milkys from it looks like divinikey is also sold out.

@Keybored 3 года назад

I think Elboard may be the only US based proxy. However, I reached out to them and they said more are on order and should be in stock again next week or so

@b4ssripper 2 года назад

Got two boxes of them/ After gateron browns they do feel the same but without any click. Maybe even more like gateron reds or im just not getting it at all.

@otanioribe8221 3 года назад

I've used Yellow V! for a 7 months, and I lubed and filmed with Krytox 205g0 + 105 and TX films. It was a little bit scratchy, but so far so good for my experience Sorry if my grammar skill still bad, I'm still learning it

@Keybored 3 года назад

You're grammar is fine! Once you wear them in a bit, do they get smoother?

@otanioribe8221 3 года назад

@@Keybored yep, It was

@bilbogmail8511 2 года назад

pls reply, when lubing the gateron cap v2 switches, where in it do you lube? like just the springs, or do you lube it fully like the bottom housing sliders, stem, and etc. and do you wipe off the factory lube or just lube over it? pls reply!

@Keybored 2 года назад

Lube it like any other switch! I lubed right over the factory lube because I was too lazy lol

@zeonic_keys6375 3 года назад

Is the clack on bottom out the inverted top stem hitting the bottom housing? I typically like long stems, but the thocky sound profile from these switches was really nice!

@Keybored 3 года назад

I think the opening and how the shape is really helps to carry the sound!

@iPatshredgtr 3 года назад

Just curious, what variant of Gateron Yellows is the most clacky? I had KS-3 before and it's thocky. Yes, I do like that high-pitch goodness.

@Keybored 3 года назад

I believe the clear PC tops :)

@chiuuuuuuuuuu 3 года назад

Excellent review covered everything I'm looking for!! Just bought the 5pin golden cap yellow after watching your review. If I have good experience with it i might even get the cap brown. I heard its tactility isn't sandy red like the normal brown. I'm also curious of what you think of the kbdv3 case + fr4 vs the stock kbd67lite case + poly plate. I wanna get it but not sure if it's worth

@Keybored 3 года назад

I showed off the cap browns on the new freebird video! They are much much better than standard browns. The sound is THOCC! In terms of the KBD67. I think most will be happy with the KBD67lite stock, or kbd67 lite with the FR4 plate. The V3 adds the aluminum and the alu sound, but not sure if it's worth it as much

@chiuuuuuuuuuu 3 года назад

@@Keybored Thanks for the reply! I'll check that out!

@Keybored 3 года назад

@@chiuuuuuuuuuu :) no problem!

@chiuuuuuuuuuu 2 года назад

@@Keybored I just received my cap golden and they are awesome even stock! Thanks for the review again 🙏

@phuwit48 2 года назад

Since the Cap V2 is a bit different from a normal MX-style switches, do you have any lubing tips for this switch? And I also heard that the Cap V2 also have some factory lube. Did you wipe it off or just lube over them?

@Keybored 2 года назад

I would lube it the same was as the other MX style switches! The proper method will be to wipe off some of the factory lube and apply the krytox, etc. But I just did mine over it and still turned out ok... I know I'm lazy lol

@coluzea 3 года назад

when i read the title i thought "cap" but after the watching through the video i thought "need to get the caps" dad jokes aside this was an awesome video, super helpful. i think i'll have to pick some of these up

@drinkingexpiredmilkat3am174 3 года назад

What

@Keybored 3 года назад

:) Thank you Coluzea!

@MaybeTiberius 3 года назад

i think its all preference in the end. me for example i did like the sound profile of my gateron inks but i for some reason did not fully like their feel. its hard to explain but they kind of feel like they sound. a little muted almost mushy on bottom out at times. i switches over to alpacas and i love them way more in every way. they are more consistent for me and they just feel way more snappier.

@Keybored 3 года назад

:) Definitely a hobby of preference!

@MuslimWojak 2 года назад

I am daily driving the v2s and they are amazing

@Keybored 2 года назад

These are such a hidden secret haha

@JackiesBoards 3 года назад

Great Video, it is a super good review. Do you think the v2 gold caps worth the premium over the v2 milky caps? Have you ever have experience with the Gateron yellow pro too?

@Keybored 3 года назад

Hmm... I think the gold is slightly more deeper than the milky, but do cost much more... If you don't mind that slight difference in sound, I would go with milky

@JackiesBoards 3 года назад

@@Keybored thanks for your reply, again, excellent work

@MrBunz 3 года назад

awesome vid as always! I was just curious whether or not it is worth it to lube and/or film these switches? I have so far lubed and filmed 2 sets of switches and I'm getting a bit tired of it hehe

@Keybored 3 года назад

I lubed and filmed them and I think it does make it worthwhile! But these are definitely very usable stock

@MrBunz 3 года назад

oh ok cool! great to know :) also, would you happen to know if they are in stock anywhere? I cant seem to find the v2's in stock :/

@_casualthrower333_4 3 года назад

i ordered cap milky yellows a few days ago that i think are v1 bc they come in the acrylic case, not knowing there was a newer version. Do you think i should cancel the order while i can and wait until the v2s come back in stock?

@Keybored 3 года назад

The V2s will be in stock next week I was told! I feel the V2 is a good improvement over V1 for sure!

@basedballs1604 3 года назад

I'm using cherry profile keycaps right now with north facing pcb, will there be any interference if I used the gateron cap switches

@Keybored 3 года назад

Hmm... I haven't tested this but I'll check it out!

@matthewnellis4363 3 года назад

I may have missed in previous videos, but what are the pegboard containers you have for your switches at 0:07?

@Keybored 3 года назад

It's the Ikea pegboard organization system! Skadis I believe

@brocky 2 года назад

Do you have the links to the wall mounts that you have there with the switch containers? I'd like to organize mine as similarly as yours! I especially like the plants at the top

@Keybored 2 года назад

It's the ikea skadis pegboard!

@hirdygirdy746 3 года назад

How do these compare to the mint switches in sound? Looking for a linear or tactile that has the lowest pitch that I can find right now so the comparison could help :)

@Keybored 3 года назад

Mint is very subdued and deep. The cap v2 are similar to Inks with bit more pop

@maltex7575 3 года назад

i love ur videos

@Keybored 3 года назад

Thank you so much maltex!

@SoobinOh 2 года назад

Where can I find those product descriptions online? I ordered cap yellows but I'm not sure if I received v1 or v2. I got the acrylic case, and I think the housing shaped look like the left side in the product description photos. So I think I received v1 :(

@Keybored 2 года назад

Sorry to hear that! Yeah, I wish that Gateron did a better job of making the differences a bit more noticeable!

@Chxetah Год назад

are there any two stage springs i can swap with these?

@NameLess-lk2qu 2 года назад

This Gateron Golden Cap V2 sounds so good for me. Thinking to buy the Durock l7 but Im choosing between this two.

@Keybored 2 года назад

Check out my new video in the akko mod 003! I put these in that board!

@NameLess-lk2qu 2 года назад

@@Keybored yey watched it already, sounds really good for my ears, did you use film for this switches?

@byrhl7937 3 года назад

What is that rack that you put your switches in at the start and end of the video called?

@Keybored 3 года назад

It's the Ikea pegboard organizer system. I believe the skadis

@zen170 3 года назад

What switch do you recommend that has like a poppy sound? I have the tofu75 with brass plate and eva case foam (i dont have a pcb foam, you recommend that i get one?).

@Keybored 3 года назад

I think the Cap v2s are actually very poppy. Or you can do the PE foam mod and it makes everything poppy :)

@zen170 3 года назад

@@KeyboredThank you!!

@Kizzster 2 года назад

Why wasn't Ink V2's used in this comparison or was it?

@Keybored 2 года назад

It was :)

@Johan-ev2gu 3 года назад

Damn, they sound amazing! Though, are they worth the upgrade from gateron yellows?

@Keybored 3 года назад

I think if you have gateron yellows, it'll be just a minor upgrade in sound. I think it might be worthwhile to consider them for the future, unless you want to get that deep ink sound for much lower price!

@Johan-ev2gu 3 года назад

@@Keybored thanks for your answer, your videos are absolutely amazing!

@dylaniguess785 2 года назад

Just wondering what do you use to hold the switches (at the start) it looks really cool!

@Keybored 2 года назад

It's the Ikea Skadis pegboard organizer!

@user-qk8rt9yf9v 3 года назад

Hey scott, whats the green switch stem holder that you used in your lubing tutorial? I have the normal 4 prong tool but it usually grabs the stem the wrong way and flings it across my room taking a very long time to find.

@Keybored 3 года назад

Hi A! It's another type of stem picker! It's this thing right here. www.upgradekeyboards.com/product/switch-stem-picker-holder/

@user-qk8rt9yf9v 3 года назад

@@Keybored thank u!

@mat_max 2 года назад

And what about the milky cap yellows? I remember those being very good for the price since they are quite cheaper yet pretty similar to the cap gold ones

@Keybored 2 года назад

Milky Cap V2 Yellows are outstanding value!

@minhanhnguyen3430 2 года назад

Great review. Have you tried Gateron Pro Milky Yellow? I heard that they fix the wobble stem, new mold, smooth and good enough to stock. Can you do a video comparision between Cap V2 and Pro Milky Yellow, please? Hope you see my comment!

@Keybored 2 года назад

I have not yet used the Gateron Pro yellow yet, but the Keychron Phantom red is actually based on the pro series switches! They are indeed super smooth, has a great poppy sound and the tolerance is great! It's like a higher pitched, poppier ink black

@minhanhnguyen3430 2 года назад

@@Keybored thank you a lot, have a great day!

@alesanto8922 3 года назад

Someone tested if the north facing + cherry profile make interference? Standard gat yellow doesn't but maybe the top housing shape is different in the cap's.

@Keybored 3 года назад

Hmmm will have to try this to see if it works!

@huybuiduc.94 3 года назад

Hi Keyboared, may I ask you about the grease lubricant that Gateron is using for their factory lube? I'm using Cap V1, and thinking about re-lube them. I have Tri 3204. Thanks for reading :D

@Keybored 3 года назад

Hmm... I'm not sure what they're using, but it's very light. I changed it over to Krytox 205 and I feel it works better!

@huybuiduc.94 3 года назад

@@Keybored Thanks for your reply. So I will buy Krytox 205 and try. In addition, will be ok to use 205 for a spring?

@Tuffff 3 года назад

can you make a video comparing the gateron cap v2 and the mint switches by dinokey? nice video btw

@Keybored 3 года назад

Thank you so much! I'll try to include those 2 next time when I do another linear switch review!

@IronCan88 3 года назад

Gateron cap v2 milky yellow or Durock Pom? As someone who likes tactile switch, will I like linear switches?

@Keybored 3 года назад

Hmmm... that is a tough one. I think it would depend on the board they go in, but if you like clack, you'll like the poms more, and if you want thock, the Cap v2s. I used to exclusively like tactiles before and then I tried a nice linear, and I jumped ship! I prefer linears over tactiles :)

@TG-ut7xg 3 года назад

Hi I don’t know if this question was already asked and answered. I was looking for the Gateron blank inks on the link you provided but when I clicked it showed me Gateron black inks V2. Are those the same Gateron Black inks you tested in this video? I’m sorry if my question seems inexperienced I’m new to the keyboard hobby but on the bright side I think I found the switches I would like!

@Keybored 3 года назад

Yup! The ones I used on this video are ink black v2!

@TG-ut7xg 3 года назад

@@Keybored thank you so much for the response! I just subscribed I’m excited to watch more of your videos!

@eldenfrias9012 Год назад

Hello there, Is there a significant difference from the v1 and v2? How can you tell which is which?

@huunhanle3809 Год назад

The most noticeable different in my opinion is the smoothness, stem tolerance and how loud the "scratch" sound is. The V1 is so scratchy that you can still hear the scratch sound even after lubed, while the V2 in stock is way better than V1 after lube; like 80% less scratchy sound. And lastly, the stem of V2 is definitely more solid than V1. Since V1 still using the old mold/ batch of the old Gateron's switches.

@Havesomepizza 2 года назад

While I do like this review, I feel like PE foam in boards for sound tests is really misleading. It's hard to find switches that don't sound really similar in a PE foam board. Now that I have Cap v2 Gold and Gat Black Inks, there's definitely a bigger difference in the switch sound than this video portrays. Still amazing production quality as always!

@aaryavyas8869 2 года назад

Scott I am getting x70 alpacas for 38 bucks and gat golden yellow for 35 so which one should I buy I am planning on lubing and filming the switch I am want to use them on freebird 60 and yeah this will be my first custom keyboard and also advise me which plate to go with out of aluminium Fr4 and pom plate??

@Keybored 2 года назад

Hmm... I do love the alpacas for their smooth clack... It would depend on what you're looking for. If you want deep, go for the Cap V2... they are thocky. If you want smooth clack, you can never go wrong with the alpacas actually.

@aaryavyas8869 2 года назад

@@Keybored I want them to mount on my d60 lite and this will be my first custom mechanical keyboard . So suggest me accordingly

@sshum00 3 года назад

OK ngl, I do like the sound but I do prefer the ink black visual look for most of my boards. That being said, I do plan on building an Evangelion UNIT 00 board and originally pre ordered a batch of JWK ev-00 switches. Starting to think maybe this is the better typing experience considering all my other Eva boards are JWK recolours.

@Keybored 3 года назад

The eva switches are very nice too! And the ink black visuals are unmatched I agree

@alvadagansta 2 года назад

I have both cap v2 yellow and gat yellow and the gat yellow feels smoother to me (both lubed with 205g0). I think it’s because of the looser housing on the gat yellow.

@Keybored 2 года назад

That could give the impression!