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Gaza and the Power of Narratives with Ahmed Paul Keeler 

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The current slaughter meted out on innocents in Gaza, fully supported Western Governments, is founded upon a bed of lies. It is said that the truth is the first casualty of war, yet in this war the truth is not hidden -the decapitated bodies, crushed skulls, emaciated children, the callous shelling of hungry souls as they clamour for flour - all of this is known to the world and there remains little doubt that what we are witnessing is truly horrific. Yet the Israeli counter-narrative looks to subvert this truth; these images they claim, however regrettable, are the result of such a heinous crime that they are necessary for rooting out the evil. The Gazan women and children are no more than collateral damage. I have argued that what the hypocritical West fails to see is that for every soul whose death they manufacture, the very edifice upon which they claim a moral high ground is crumbling.
My guest today, Ahmed Paul Keeler argues in a provocative and beautifully written piece that narratives matter. This is why millions are spent on spinning a story about the state of Israel and the traducing the claims of Palestinians. Today we take a forensic look at these narratives.
His powerful article is available on Jalal's newsletter jalalayn.substack.com
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#thethinkingmuslimpodcast episode 141
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
2:30 - Barbed Wire Control
7:10 - October 7th Final Stage
17:20 Charles Dickens
19:58 Power of narratives
22:14 Israel’s narrative
29:58 Indoctrination
31:27 Resistance
38:12 The three stages
41:05 Lord Montague
46:49 A shift in narrative ?

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@TheThinkingMuslim
@TheThinkingMuslim 2 месяца назад
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@rashidaayob4796
@rashidaayob4796 2 месяца назад
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@Angeprof
@Angeprof 2 месяца назад
The irony is that Israel fighting for Gaza’s natural gas reserves. Think Nazi gas chambers. It’s almost funny had it not been so tragic. Greed for the natural resources of Gazans is what these people are dying for. It explains the intell Hamas got and from whom. That is what’s going on. Wake up. Google Gaza’s natural gas reserves. Gaza has billions of tons of natural gas. The intent is to settle Gaza to ship natural gas via the Mediterranean Sea. A journalist on RU-vid broke this way before I realized it. I found his video while looking for support for my reasoning.
@iditbes6962
@iditbes6962 Месяц назад
Should I remind you who colonize this land and all the Middle East before?? You guys! Only you allowed to colonize land?
@jrhirsch1
@jrhirsch1 Месяц назад
"If solid, uninterrupted ARAB OCCUPATION for nearly 1,300 years does not make a country "Arab", what does?" Here King Abdullah of Jordan in November 1947 admits that Arabs conquered, OCCUPIED and settled Palestine in the seventh century. And the obvious conclusion is that in order to occupy a land, peoples other than Arabs must have been living there before! The idea that the Palestinian Arabs have always been indigenous to the land of Israel is a fallacy. They are NOT! Muslim Arab armies from over 700 miles away in the Arabian Peninsula spread Islam at the point of sword. If they wish to establish a Palestinian state they should PRACTICE THEIR RIGHT OF RETURN to their indigenous lands that lie outside the land of Israel.
@jrhirsch1
@jrhirsch1 Месяц назад
Israel's existence is first mentioned over 3,000 years ago in the Merneptah Stelle, and was located in Canaan, in what today is erroneously called the West Bank. Claiming the Jewish people are OCCUPYING their INDIGENOUS lands is ludicrous! This memorial etched in stone by the Egyptian Pharoah Merneptah is housed in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo. "The princes are prostrate, saying, "Peace!" Not one is raising his head among the Nine Bows. Now that Tehenu (Libya) has come to ruin, Hatti is pacified; The Canaan has been plundered into every sort of woe: Ashkelon has been overcome; Gezer has been captured; Yano'am is made non-existent. Israel is laid waste and his seed is not; Hurru is become a widow because of Egypt. The Mesha Stele from the 8th century B.C. mentions the Kingdom of ISRAEL numerous times. "I am Mesha, son of Chemosh-gad,[25] king of Moab, the Dibonite. My father reigned over Moab thirty years, and I have reigned after my father. And I have built this sanctuary for Chemosh in Karchah, a sanctuary of salvation, for he saved me from all aggressors, and made me look upon all mine enemies with contempt. Omri was king of ISRAEL , and oppressed Moab during many days, and Chemosh was angry with his aggressions. His son succeeded him, and he also said, I will oppress Moab. In my days he said, Let us go, and I will see my desire upon him and his house, and ISRAEL said, I shall destroy it for ever. Now Omri took the land of Madeba, and occupied it in his day, and in the days of his son, forty years. And Chemosh had mercy on it in my time. And I built Baal-meon and made therein the ditch, and I built Kiriathaim. And the men of Gad dwelled in the country of Ataroth from ancient times, and the king of ISRAEL fortified Ataroth. I assaulted the wall and captured it, and killed all the warriors of the city for the well-pleasing of Chemosh and Moab, and I removed from it all the spoil, and offered it before Chemosh in Kirjath; and I placed therein the men of Siran, and the men of Mochrath. And Chemosh said to me, Go take Nebo against ISRAEL, and I went in the night and I fought against it from the break of day till noon, and I took it: and I killed in all seven thousand men, but I did not kill the women and maidens, for I devoted them to Ashtar-Chemosh; and I took from it the vessels of Jehovah, and offered them before Chemosh. And the king of ISRAEL fortified Jahaz, and occupied it, when he made war against me, and Chemosh drove him out before me, and I took from Moab two hundred men in all, and placed them in Jahaz, and took it to annex it to Dibon. I built Karchah the wall of the forest, and the wall of the Hill. I have built its gates and I have built its towers. I have built the palace of the king, and I made the prisons for the criminals within the wall. And there were no wells in the interior of the wall in Karchah. And I said to all the people, ‘Make you every man a well in his house.’ And I dug the ditch for Karchah with the chosen men of ISRAEL. I built Aroer, and I made the road across the Arnon. I took Beth-Bamoth for it was destroyed. I built Bezer for it was cut down by the armed men of Daybon, for all Daybon was now loyal; and I reigned from Bikran, which I added to my land. And I built Beth-Gamul, and Beth-Diblathaim, and Beth Baal-Meon, and I placed there the poor people of the land. And as to Horonaim, the men of Edom dwelt therein, on the descent from old. And Chemosh said to me, Go down, make war against Horonaim, and take it. And I assaulted it, And I took it, for Chemosh restored it in my days. Wherefore I made.... ...year...and I...." "The Mesha Stele, also called the Moabite Stone, is a basalt stone slab that has provided historians and linguists with the largest source of the Moabite language to date. Researchers have only now been able to verify with a considerable degree of certainty that the stele contains explicit references to King David." The Tel Dan Stele from the ninth century mentions three kings of ISRAEL plus the house of DAVID. " . [ ]...[...] and cut [...] 2. [...] my father went up [against him when h]e fought at [...] 3. and my father lay down, he went to his [ancestors (viz. became sick and died)]. And the king of ISRAEL entered previously in my father's land, [and] Hadad made me king, 5. And Hadad went in front of me, [and] I departed from the seven [...-] 6. s of my kingdom, and I slew [seve]nty kin[gs], who harnessed th[ousands of cha-] 7. riots and thousands of horsemen (or: horses). [I killed Jeho]ram son [of Ahab] 8. king of ISRAEL, and [I] killed [Ahaz]iahu son of [Jehoram kin-] 9. g of the House of DAVID, and I set [their towns into ruins and turned ] 10. their land into [desolation ] 11. other [... and Jehu ru-] 12. led over ISRAEL and I laid] 13. siege upon [ ]" "The Taylor Prism is one of the earliest cuneiform artifacts analysed in modern Assyriology, having been found a few years before the modern deciphering of cuneiform. The annals themselves are notable for describing Sennacherib's siege of Jerusalem during the reign of king Hezekiah. This event is recorded in several books contained in the Bible including Isaiah chapters 36 and 37; 2 Kings 18:17; 2 Chronicles 32:9. "The Black Obelisk of Shalmaneser III is a black limestone Assyrian sculpture with many scenes in bas-relief and inscriptions. It comes from Nimrud (ancient Kalhu), in northern Iraq, and commemorates the deeds of King Shalmaneser III (reigned 858-824 BC). It is on display at the British Museum in London, and several other museums have cast replicas." "It is one of two complete Assyrian obelisks yet discovered, the other one being the much earlier White Obelisk of Ashurnasirpal I, and is historically significant because it is thought to display the earliest ancient depiction of a biblical figure - JEHU, KING of ISRAEL. The traditional identification of "Yaw" as Jehu has been questioned by some scholars, who proposed that the inscription refers to another king, Jehoram of Israel."
@hansweissmann_xviii6754
@hansweissmann_xviii6754 2 месяца назад
As the Chinese representative in the UNSC had said last week: armed resistance is a sacred right to every people under occupation!
@mere_mort4l
@mere_mort4l 2 месяца назад
Does that include the Uyghurs?
@kizilirmak7087
@kizilirmak7087 2 месяца назад
I wonder if we asked him what about uygurs of Northern Turkistan. Chinese are after political gain. Basically opportunistic hypocrites
@Kashghari
@Kashghari 2 месяца назад
It's the height of hypocrisy for China to make such statements while itself committed genocide against the Uyghurs.
@SamsonZoomBespoke
@SamsonZoomBespoke 2 месяца назад
REsistance and its accompanying missiles are a war declaration. As so its in Hamas mandate for Genocide against israels Plural society. If israel is a colony who is the main country? This started in 1880 with Russia when thousands went to Palestine and became jewish palestinians. Intellectuals are full of themselves and will never solve the worlds issues. "talent, persistance and intellect is what the world needs more off. that wins battles and if not eventually wins wars. Merge belief and intellec like a thinking muslim but with the talent of now and not old religion and old emotion.
@hansweissmann_xviii6754
@hansweissmann_xviii6754 2 месяца назад
@@mere_mort4l China has 56 ethnic groups including the Uyghurs! The PLA has Uyghur generals. So, better luck in your next lie…..
@theresiabrazao6435
@theresiabrazao6435 2 месяца назад
As a Boer South African, whose ancestors survived the British concentration camps, this discussion was profound. Thank you for always having insightful guests on your show.
@Kk-bq8sw
@Kk-bq8sw 2 месяца назад
Boers killed thousands of black indigenous people.
@Nobody-yq9fk
@Nobody-yq9fk 2 месяца назад
Weren’t the Boers colonizers anyway?
@yanivreif7379
@yanivreif7379 2 месяца назад
Loooool You ignorants conveniently forgot that 21% of the Israelis are Arabs
@BettBeat_Media
@BettBeat_Media 2 месяца назад
Wait, weren't de Boers Dutch colonizers of South-African land?
@sadeekahsaban162
@sadeekahsaban162 2 месяца назад
Boer South Africans thrived under apartheid system by subjugating indigenous population (Xhosa, Zulu and all the other tribes) and forced all non whites to carry a "Dom-pass" (stupid-pass), Non_whites had to refer to whites as "baas" (boss) similar to what is happening in occupied Palestine
@javajava8856
@javajava8856 2 месяца назад
It's the height of Zio-absurdity to assert that the Palestinians, who have been living on their ancestral lands for 4 millennia, needed a bunch of Polish and Lithuanian people to teach them how to cultivate their own soil to grow olives, grapes, and citrus. To 'make the desert bloom'...Zio-narcissism at its finest.
@fiqhonomics
@fiqhonomics 2 месяца назад
Schmalz eaters that literally had to learn from a book how to cook from olive oil
@alysekrysiak2184
@alysekrysiak2184 2 месяца назад
I am Polish. I don’t claim them. They were Ashkenazi European tribe that converted to Judaism. They have their own language: Yiddish. Arab Jews don’t speak Yiddish, they speak Arabic, until the invention of the Zionist state, that made everyone speak their invented Hebrew.
@Extra-Celestial7
@Extra-Celestial7 2 месяца назад
@@alysekrysiak2184 They are Khazar converts, originally from North Caucasus .
@user-zq7zb6ew8p
@user-zq7zb6ew8p 2 месяца назад
@@alysekrysiak2184 Can you provide more detailed information besides your authentic polish antisemitism?
@user-zq7zb6ew8p
@user-zq7zb6ew8p 2 месяца назад
@@Extra-Celestial7 Your claims are not supported by historical records. You don’t know the history. You even denied that there are many versions of Qur’an - fact proven by experts.
@user-co9kt5et2s
@user-co9kt5et2s 2 месяца назад
from the river to the sea Palestine will be free
@user-zq7zb6ew8p
@user-zq7zb6ew8p 2 месяца назад
🤪
@eviltrickyspider5266
@eviltrickyspider5266 2 месяца назад
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@greendragonspirit1646
@greendragonspirit1646 2 месяца назад
@holdingholder8 they do a DNA test ,then follow the results to the region 😉😂.
@jimbob3030
@jimbob3030 2 месяца назад
@@holdingholder8 Palestinians can only be free if the others leave? What happened to the idea of it being the only democracy in the middle east?
@jimbob3030
@jimbob3030 2 месяца назад
@@holdingholder8 Nice projection you have there.
@jylyhughes5085
@jylyhughes5085 2 месяца назад
This is a superb podcast. Alhamdulillah. Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
@amaarahgarda4116
@amaarahgarda4116 2 месяца назад
This is a fantastic fantastic interview! 💯 FREE PALESTINE
@LaurenceMartinSask
@LaurenceMartinSask 2 месяца назад
Thank you, very deep talk ❤🙏❤. I am the daughter of a French fundamentalist christian father who was a hard core zionist, and I was born and raised in Morocco. When I heard the stories of Oct 7 they sounded very familiar... Because they are the ones I heard in my childhood about the war of independence in Morocco 70 years prior. I also heard all my childhood that the Arabs were not humans, just animals. Yet in Morocco Muslims and Jews have been living together in harmony for centuries... I just knew there was no truth to the horrors of Oct 7, but that was impossible to say publicly. And it felt right away that the Palestinians were going to be sacrificed 😢😢😢.
@ebflegg
@ebflegg 2 месяца назад
Interesting history! And yes, atrocity propaganda has been fabricated by Israel and disseminated in the West. It has also been debunked by courageous investigative journalism in the West, notably The Grayzone. However, anti-colonial resistance is often violently cruel at times. It requires extraordinary vision and discipline to prevent that. We are all human, and oppression fuels violence
@shahfaisal3502
@shahfaisal3502 2 месяца назад
Its very important we say this through our own experiences snd others to make the blind wotld see whats happening
@lightbeings6243
@lightbeings6243 2 месяца назад
👍🏻
@mtotheptothed
@mtotheptothed 2 месяца назад
I’m completely with you and the eloquent speaker in the video and completely support Palestinian liberation. Yet, your comment ‘I knew there was no truth to the horrors of Oct 7th’ seems a little far to me. I’m aware of the huge amount of atrocity propaganda from Israel, some % of Israelis were killed, knowingly, by there own military, mass rape is a fiction- yet there were true horrors against civilians on that day too. Whether we argue that was all part of legitimate resistance or not is one thing, but I feel we should acknowledge the atrocities that occurred against Israeli civilians- just in a human level. Happy to hear different points of view.
@ebflegg
@ebflegg 2 месяца назад
@@mtotheptothed Horrors are generally committed by the oppressed when they rise up. We should not focus on whether the horrors are justified or not. We should support the right of those occupied by a hostile military force to defend themselves by any means necessary, including the use of violence. To those who object to the methods used, we should say, stop your occupation and your oppression, before it gets worse for you. Your horrors are far worse
@DonotDivided
@DonotDivided 2 месяца назад
Justice will prevail 😢😢😢
@derekburke7831
@derekburke7831 2 месяца назад
The US the UK and their allies can not even spell the word justice never mind know what it means
@reimei2819
@reimei2819 2 месяца назад
We won't let it happen to Palestine though! The world has changed since those awful times. The remnants of colonialism will be rooted out!
@nancyroberts1668
@nancyroberts1668 2 месяца назад
I so want you to be right! 13:18
@dianacasey6002
@dianacasey6002 2 месяца назад
@@nancyroberts1668me too it’s hard to live in a colonised country and know what happened and is still happening to indigenous ppl. Some ppl react in guilt in a negative way and others try to make things better for indigenous ppl. The only way to feel less guilty is to improve conditions for pol. Not to double down and make things worst.
@bidhrohi12
@bidhrohi12 2 месяца назад
Nobody's doing anything. Shouting chants on the streets is meaningless. Israel's friends actually give it material support. Palestinians truly have nobody. Just ridiculous leftists and arabs using their misery for entertainment.
@davidwestwater2219
@davidwestwater2219 2 месяца назад
Good luck with that
@dianacasey6002
@dianacasey6002 2 месяца назад
@@davidwestwater2219 oh I know I’m not naive I just keep hoping that decency will win one day. Trust me I’m not holding my breath whilst I wait. I don’t have much time left on this planet. So I will just try to do my best.
@mirali3405
@mirali3405 2 месяца назад
Mr. Keeler is a deep thinker and a brilliant intellectual. I learned a lot from this discussion.
@faizafernandez5728
@faizafernandez5728 2 месяца назад
Allah is with them!! Victory is written . Palestine will be free INSHALLAH
@user-zq7zb6ew8p
@user-zq7zb6ew8p 2 месяца назад
🍌🍌🍌
@latheef670
@latheef670 2 месяца назад
InshaaAllah.
@user-lw5kq6ei9h
@user-lw5kq6ei9h Месяц назад
Get over it, accept israel
@hajerlabidi2306
@hajerlabidi2306 14 дней назад
Why we should accept Israel while Allah says Muslim will win in the end and while all signs are there pointing the end of Israel Even Israeli historians are saying it
@user-zq7zb6ew8p
@user-zq7zb6ew8p 13 дней назад
@@hajerlabidi2306 Well, you don’t have to accept anything, just move your Muslim butt out of Land of Israel.
@CineRanter
@CineRanter 2 месяца назад
He is razor sharp, intelligent and wise MashAllah
@george221999
@george221999 2 месяца назад
My heart is broken by the suffering and by the lies snd hypocricy of the West
@suaadsultan
@suaadsultan 2 месяца назад
I love Ahmed Paul Keeler! Hearing him speak is such a joy; thank you everyone at The Thinking Muslim! ❤
@loretoecheverria926
@loretoecheverria926 9 дней назад
YES! His narrative and his voice sounds like a wonderful musical composiion. Great!
@organboi
@organboi 2 месяца назад
This talk is the PERFECT summary of what is going on. Couldn't be better. Keeeler is a genius instructor.
@haroonabdullah5816
@haroonabdullah5816 2 месяца назад
An excellent analysis.
@JamesSmith-kk1yc
@JamesSmith-kk1yc 2 месяца назад
This interview exemplifies profound scholarship providing exceptional historical insight and a needed moral perspective. Thank you!!
@OH-uo3nq
@OH-uo3nq 2 месяца назад
Free Gaza
@aquddus1907
@aquddus1907 2 месяца назад
What a powerful podcast that lays bare the root of the issue and why the entire west supports Israel. It is their baby, their youngest and last child of settler colonialism with all its racist and supremecist view of the world . The three stages of Empire was eye opening for me.
@absaly
@absaly 2 месяца назад
7 october planned by israel
@ebflegg
@ebflegg 2 месяца назад
​@@absalyJust because it provided a pretext to intensify the genocide does not mean Israel planned it. This is conspiracy thinking that deprives the resistance of agency. They thoroughly humiliated Israeli military intelligence and you would do better to acknowledge that rather than see Israel as the source of everything
@user-wj1ko9yl6b
@user-wj1ko9yl6b 2 месяца назад
You just answered to my confusion of why the west supports such evil.
@badiyasudah5022
@badiyasudah5022 2 месяца назад
Excellent interview
@ebflegg
@ebflegg 2 месяца назад
@@absaly don't take away from the resistance's achievement in making the surprise attack under the radar
@Blacktolite
@Blacktolite 2 месяца назад
Fantastic guest. This was very interesting conversation!!! 🔥 🔥
@thewordsofwisdom10
@thewordsofwisdom10 2 месяца назад
The truth is undeniable. The truth came and obliterated the false verily the false is to be erased. God willing
@colleen2671
@colleen2671 2 месяца назад
Australia too! I was born on a reservation designed by Austs Govt - I was born under The Police Protection Act' which Australias PM Gough Whitlam tore up in 1973, only free for 50 years! The people are still controlled on the reservation today - poor drinking water, poor health service, no shops, no economy whatsoever! Town is closed at 5pm for adults - children have nothing, The people have nothing just slow painful early deaths caused by colonism!
@Ceasarsalate
@Ceasarsalate 2 месяца назад
That’s terrible 😣
@Kk-bq8sw
@Kk-bq8sw 2 месяца назад
Australia land of the indigenous dark skinned aboriginal peoples.
@isasala9111
@isasala9111 2 месяца назад
I had no clue about that… But it very well matches with the Australian government during the covid pandémica: authoritarian and fascist. Thank you for your contribution
@anarugormann4337
@anarugormann4337 Месяц назад
Respect to you and your ancestors from Aotearoa first nations. Extremely racist over here as well. Great hunting tho
@sultanskinny
@sultanskinny 2 месяца назад
I've been watching the podcast for a while now and I'm happy to say you are easily the best Islamic oriented podcast there is. Your topics are not only intriguing but relevant and important. You consistently bring on very informative guests who are well respected in the realm of Islamic studies as a whole. Many Islamic oriented channels fall into the trap of click bait and sensationalist content. You've kept it classy and sophisticated throughout and have no doubt you will continue to. Keep up the good work.
@fariahmayet1710
@fariahmayet1710 2 месяца назад
💯
@Muz786.
@Muz786. Месяц назад
💯
@Torontogal777
@Torontogal777 Месяц назад
Agree! I have learned so much here.
@veronikalynn5084
@veronikalynn5084 2 месяца назад
Out of the many outstanding interviews I’ve seen from people across the world since October, this is one of the most powerful
@a4482921
@a4482921 2 месяца назад
Great to see mr Keeler again alhamdulillah
@rogerwhite342
@rogerwhite342 2 месяца назад
From the river to the sea Palestine will be free. Leve leve leve Palestina och krossa zionismen.
@bridgethackett8112
@bridgethackett8112 Месяц назад
What I get from this discussion is we haven't evolved we haven't learned lessons we're still in jungle mode survival of the fittest or the richest
@hughiedavies6069
@hughiedavies6069 2 месяца назад
I hadn't heard that quote from Winston Churchill before, unbelievable, but I always knew he wasn't the hero he's been made out to be.
@organboi
@organboi 2 месяца назад
He carpet bombed Dresden. Genocide
@somalimohamed3417
@somalimohamed3417 Месяц назад
No, look up about the Churchill what he did to Kenya and the genocide he commited
@ellarweegadsden8483
@ellarweegadsden8483 Месяц назад
He was a nasty drunken piece of ish.
@deanadewall8400
@deanadewall8400 2 месяца назад
I'm crying again. Free Palestine now!
@user-zq7zb6ew8p
@user-zq7zb6ew8p 2 месяца назад
Don’t worry, honey, it is hormones…😀
@deanadewall8400
@deanadewall8400 2 месяца назад
@@user-zq7zb6ew8p Go away creep!
@eviltrickyspider5266
@eviltrickyspider5266 2 месяца назад
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@ruthokelley5833
@ruthokelley5833 2 месяца назад
How many tears will we shed before we can be assured of a permanent ceasefire? 🥲💔
@user-zq7zb6ew8p
@user-zq7zb6ew8p 2 месяца назад
@@ruthokelley5833 Free the hostages.
@LaurenceMartinSask
@LaurenceMartinSask 2 месяца назад
Yes the indigenous people show the highest humanity we can find on Earth.
@aftabkhanize
@aftabkhanize 2 месяца назад
The Electronic Intifada a podcast this morning referred to stories about the 7th by a Jewish lady when and how she was taken from her kibbutz by Hamas totally negating the Israeli State news narrative of mass women rape. By the way this podcast is mostly run by Jewish people with one Palestinian.
@christineskead1663
@christineskead1663 2 месяца назад
Aren't we all indigenous?
@LaurenceMartinSask
@LaurenceMartinSask 2 месяца назад
@@christineskead1663 we were, originally. But a number of people on earth have an ancestral history of using brutal force to conquer indigenous lands on new (undiscovered at the time) territories, of erasing indigenous cultures, etc.. The doctrine of Discovery created by the Catholic Church in 1493 by Pope Alexander VI has allowed these conquests. In my view the Catholic Church has great responsibility in the disappearance of many indigenous people and cultures all over the world, and in suppressing the indigenous root, identity, of the christianized world.
@LaurenceMartinSask
@LaurenceMartinSask 2 месяца назад
@@aftabkhanize I personally have no doubt that these stories are mostly untrue. I heard the same in my own childhood in Morocco, in the 50s and after, about the war of independence. These events never existed, these were stories told by the French settlers at the time. Same dynamic as in Gaza....
@davidwestwater2219
@davidwestwater2219 2 месяца назад
​@LaurenceMartinSask Muslims stole alot of land
@rul4522
@rul4522 2 месяца назад
Ahmedpaul Keeler is such a visionary. And i agree with him.
@salaamalaikumX
@salaamalaikumX 2 месяца назад
I could listen to brother Keeler all day, another fantastic podcast jazakallahu khair
@pacoshuman7642
@pacoshuman7642 2 месяца назад
True, this is one of the most intelligent, thought provoking podcasts I've encountered in 2024! I'll be sure to pay much more attention...and I can hope that with this incredible intelligence, something can happen to stop the butchering by israel or innocent, poor innocent Palestinians.
@rizanz2108
@rizanz2108 2 месяца назад
Israel will be no more.
@FiveRivers.
@FiveRivers. 2 месяца назад
Jalal, this is one of the most profound talks I have listened to on The Thinking Muslim. Thank you! Please do invite Ahmed Keeler more often.
@chinodutch9441
@chinodutch9441 2 месяца назад
A MOST VITAL AND Interesting interview with so much knowledge unfolding..THIS MAN IS A VERY SPECIAL MAN ..SPEAK SO BRILLIANTLY AND PASSIONATELY...FREEDOM FOR THE WORLD...
@peaceful1435
@peaceful1435 2 месяца назад
This is the best outline of the issue I have ever seen
@BamBamGT1
@BamBamGT1 2 месяца назад
I would say it's the most ridiculous one. It's Egypt that created the Gaza strip, not Israël. The Gaza strip is the part of former British Palestine that Egypt occupied after they attacked Israël in 1948. Together with the UN they then set up various refugee camps in that small strip of land and pushed all the refugees that had fled to Egypt there. The reason Egypt and Israel have been putting Gaza under blockade, is entirely of their own doing. After Israël gave Gaza self governance in 1995, this just lead to more and more terrorist attacks in Israël. By the 2000's there were monthly terrorist attacks. After Israel completely withdrew from Gaza in 2005, they had their first elections, and they elected Hamas. Hamas took over the Gaza strip and turned it into a terrorist hub. That's why Egypt and Israël put it under a blockade. 21% of Israeli's are Arabs, that's 2 million Arab full citizens. The notion that Israel put the Arabs in a concentration camp is rather silly.
@organboi
@organboi 2 месяца назад
​@@BamBamGT1You're exactly what Keeler is talking about. Delusional and deranged. Don't try to invent crap to have Egypt share the blame for Israel's blockade and occupation. You think this great historian (and all historians worldwide) don't know the history of Gaza? Just stop. Please, I beg you. How could you possibly call his utter truth "ridiculous?"
@ayeshawaheed9002
@ayeshawaheed9002 2 месяца назад
the interview is extremely interesting I haven't finished watching for the first time and I already feel like I need to watch it again. words of wisdom by Ahmed Paul Keeler and HD quality Questions by Jalal 👏
@doctorikon
@doctorikon 2 месяца назад
Salute to brother Keeler
@Cameo19
@Cameo19 2 месяца назад
Great analysis and conversation with Mr Keeler. Thank you! 🍉🇵🇸
@teachernisrinezenati5488
@teachernisrinezenati5488 2 месяца назад
Amazing interview and amazing guest. Thank you brother Jalal. Your podcast is a blessing.
@ruthokelley5833
@ruthokelley5833 2 месяца назад
Explained in simple terms that can be easily understood! I myself have been shocked at the lack of empathy by the young IDF soldiers toward children, not to mention the degradation of young men stripped to their underwear then hauled off to be tortured! I know that I won’t be the same ever again…after having to be witness to this atrocity!
@lorascelsi8102
@lorascelsi8102 2 месяца назад
Feel the same way brazen acts of cruelty. Justice for Gaza.
@ruthokelley5833
@ruthokelley5833 2 месяца назад
@@lorascelsi8102 justice…absolutely!
@lorascelsi8102
@lorascelsi8102 2 месяца назад
@@ruthokelley5833 hopefully soon
@ruthokelley5833
@ruthokelley5833 2 месяца назад
@@lorascelsi8102 hopefully…but Netanyahu is…at this very moment, defiant! He intends to take down Rafah! He must have become a god in his own eyes?
@NejiBHTahar
@NejiBHTahar 2 месяца назад
What an amazing session!!! Thank you for sharing the wisdom..
@mariesc5996
@mariesc5996 2 месяца назад
Again, a great interview. Thank you.
@James-kp6qn
@James-kp6qn 2 месяца назад
Excellent presentation. I was aware of ‘the only Jew in the British Goverment’. However, all though I knew the rough outline I did not know that it was entitled so presciently and prophetic! Thank you so so much for this excellent presentation. All is encapsulated in this programme with your esteemed guest. Perfect! I am so happy I know how to look up the full memorandum now. Thank you James King Wales
@jeyjey1047
@jeyjey1047 2 месяца назад
Wonderful dialogue! Thanks.
@This.Is.Sparta
@This.Is.Sparta 2 месяца назад
Excellent interview - very informative & should be shared widely to help educate others.
@user-hk9xl9zt8l
@user-hk9xl9zt8l Месяц назад
Thank you for the wonderful interview. Great guest.❤🙏❤
@Elizadoolittle1948
@Elizadoolittle1948 2 месяца назад
I could listen to this man all day.
@saqib.m2726
@saqib.m2726 2 месяца назад
What true and damning words by this amazing scholar.
@larryfloyd5111
@larryfloyd5111 2 месяца назад
Great interview and guest.
@Jaywrites23
@Jaywrites23 2 месяца назад
This is very profound and thank you for the interview. As someone with black Muslim family, I would love to hear some perspective on the Arab colonialism Maghreb that has disproportionately hurt black Africans. We feel rather not seen by westerners or Arabs in this plight.
@enlightenlife2840
@enlightenlife2840 Месяц назад
The North African maghreb was never black. The Arabs expanded and took the North Africans away from the backward Roman empire and established a new renaissance based on faith and cooperation between neighbouring nation, that's what the Arabs did.
@Jaywrites23
@Jaywrites23 Месяц назад
@@enlightenlife2840 this is simply not true. Egypt, Algeria, had a significant black populations. Mauritania and Morocco as well before they were ethnically cleansed by Arabs & Berbers. What about the Janjaweed (now RSF) in Sudan that murdered black Africans en masse? Or even more recently the mass expelling of black Africans from Tunisia. If we can’t be honest about this there is no path forward.
@lovelydoe1andonly
@lovelydoe1andonly 17 дней назад
Facts
@gertrudevanvoorden1416
@gertrudevanvoorden1416 14 дней назад
​@@Jaywrites23And the black afrikans raided, pillaged, raped the white people in Persia, forcing them to flee to New zealand according white Maori woman. It is simply impossible to learn all histories, do justice. Trying to hitchhike on others suffering not ok. Research Barbarys slavery. Kidnapping slaves and selling them by the Ashanti WEF intends to kill 7 billion so we better find some common ground not fall in the trap of antagonism. Bantus are colonizing Afrika now, killing, marginalizing many indigenous tribes. Same skincolour does not mean same tribe.
@Mimidalene
@Mimidalene 2 месяца назад
This was a beautiful conversation, odd to use that word in the context of history and a current genocide I know. I think I found beauty in the intellectual, spiritual way this was shared. Thank you.
@soundsofnature1345
@soundsofnature1345 2 месяца назад
Love this veteran, very sharp
@ImperfectAngel-hs5dk
@ImperfectAngel-hs5dk 2 месяца назад
I love Uncle, Ahmed-Paul, and his communication style ❤❤
@RyanHillier
@RyanHillier Месяц назад
In the midst of such inhumanity, this conversation is a bright shining light. Thank you both.
@Porter-88
@Porter-88 Месяц назад
Palestine will be free... Free from Hamas and palestinians. From the River to the Sea Israel is all that will be. 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱 Mauslemz lost the war. Right now gazans are running, crying and praying to their prophet and his 6yo wife. Will he save them? Nope. Justice for Aisha (she was 6).
@mahsudesh
@mahsudesh Месяц назад
Thank you, Ahmed Paul Keeler for the beautiful presentation. Awakening and powerful.
@getgal1
@getgal1 2 месяца назад
This perspective of similarities to past world colonialism brings a kind of relief and hope to our feelings of incredulity at the sight of the horrors in Gaza in 2024. Thank you.
@Federico-kh4br
@Federico-kh4br 2 месяца назад
I think it has become so big, that it might not only erase the palestinians, also the humanity. to everybody who listen to these wise words, please share!
@fadumohassan9818
@fadumohassan9818 2 месяца назад
So much rich content in this episode. I’ve had to repeat some segments to fully understand the depth of what he is saying. Jazaka allah.
@user-hn8dw1bh9r
@user-hn8dw1bh9r 2 месяца назад
Truth prevailing
@afifamahmoodlakhnavi4867
@afifamahmoodlakhnavi4867 2 месяца назад
Jazakallah both of you for having this eye opening conversation. May Allah preserve you both and strengthen your efforts to bring about the best of change through the means at your disposal. I hope lots and lots of people watch this talk and understand what's going on. InshaAllah victory is coming for those who😢 steadfast on the righteous path. Aamen
@easyy1912
@easyy1912 2 месяца назад
Great Analist, may Allah grant you all with firdaus. #FreePalestine🇵🇸
@xpressvisa4720
@xpressvisa4720 2 месяца назад
very informative and encouraging, thank you both for sharing.
@JaM-si6nb
@JaM-si6nb 2 месяца назад
Thank you for providing this information, furthering my education of the continuing destruction of the Palestinian people by the western countries and their by product israel.
@oxy54321
@oxy54321 2 месяца назад
Please a link to the paper mentioned in the excellent interview
@patward1610
@patward1610 2 месяца назад
CHARLES DICKENS Broke My Heart
@Aronshmuli665
@Aronshmuli665 2 месяца назад
great coverage, thank you
@mtt4368
@mtt4368 2 месяца назад
Very enlightening. Thank you.
@annissaa.1342
@annissaa.1342 2 месяца назад
Salaam! Ramadan Kareem to everyone fasting. Great to see Mr. Ahmed
@jonathangold2087
@jonathangold2087 2 месяца назад
A most extraordinary analysis of the current conflict in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem, by an exceptional scholar! I think everyone should have an opportunity to listen to what Ahmed Keeler expounds upon, in this incredible interview, so as to have a comprehensive understanding about this conflict and the conditions that set things in motion well over one hundred years ago! The three phases of settler colonialism as discussed in this interview, gives us all the ability to fully grasp how things ended up with the humanitarian nightmare we are watching play out by Israel, against the civilian population of Palestine. Only after listening to Ahmed Keeler’s brilliant explanation, can one begin to grasp the full extent of the depravity being metered out by the IDF against the Palestinian population as a whole. Indeed, the Israeli military, have become killing machines completely devoid of any humanity or empathy for the Palestinians , and it is quite horrifying to see this continue to play out on the ground each day. Knowing that the U.S. and its Western Allies are directly facilitating this horror show, and giving Israel political cover to perpetuate this barbarism, is even more disturbing. That the West remains silent as this butchery continues without end, is even more disturbing. I pray that some cooler heads will prevail, intervene and put an end to this genocide quickly, and allow the desperately needed humanitarian aid distribution to begin on a massive scale ! Thank you for sharing the brilliance and wisdom of Ahmed Keeler’s interview with all of us! We are all better informed and greatly enlightened having listened to his profound words of wisdom!
@user-kd6op9qi2y
@user-kd6op9qi2y 2 месяца назад
My god uk has the nerve to control who they stand with n call terrorist.
@smugbuddha
@smugbuddha 2 месяца назад
fantastic, i learnt a lot
@yasminriyal5120
@yasminriyal5120 Месяц назад
Beautiful narrative...now it is so clear. The past described so graphically...tragic.
@rizminasharafdeen6957
@rizminasharafdeen6957 2 месяца назад
Thank you thinking Muslim for bringing timely needed topics to discussion What a powerful sitting
@candicecole19
@candicecole19 2 месяца назад
Purify your intentions this Ramadan❕ Say, “Indeed my prayer, my sacrifice, my life, and my death are all for Allah (swt) Lord of all worlds.” (Quran 6:162) 🤍
@wendysalter
@wendysalter Месяц назад
Thank you. Important understanding. Great scholar. Across the world, across all nationalities and religious members, I want to say - WE ARE NOT THE EVIL ONES. We are normal human beings, families. We must protect each other against this evil. Blessings be upon us all for PEACE AND LOVE to prevail.
@aftabkhanize
@aftabkhanize 2 месяца назад
Mr Ahmed Paul Keeler is always at his best. As one young Hindu Pandit from India in his podcast read a couplet my poor translation is, "this is the last battle of Aqsa, now will come the end of Israel.
@LightBlue-uq6yv
@LightBlue-uq6yv 2 месяца назад
A very eye opening and interesting podcast.
@nabilabou9078
@nabilabou9078 2 месяца назад
MA CHA ALLAH and BARAKA ALLAH FIKOM may ALLAH BLESS YOU your testemony will be recorded in this life and after life
@SS-ts2fx
@SS-ts2fx 2 месяца назад
"The new discoveries of oil and natural gas in the Levant Basin, amounting to 122 trillion cubic feet of natural gas at a net value of $453 billion (in 2017 prices) and 1.7 billion barrels of recoverable oil at a net value of about $71 billion, offer an opportunity to distribute and share a total of about $524 billion among the different parties, in addition to the many intangible but substantive advantages of energy security and cooperation among long-time belligerents. They can also potentially be a source of additional conflict and violence if individual parties exploit these resources without due regard for the fair share of others. What could be a source of wealth and opportunities could prove disastrous if this common resource is exploited individually and exclusively, without due regard for international law and norms". United Nations (UNCTAD) Publication
@cynthiacudmore7265
@cynthiacudmore7265 2 месяца назад
So informative thank you.
@LifeinAmerica2022
@LifeinAmerica2022 2 месяца назад
I like it when he said "It's the start of the end". I have never seen so much unity of people around the globe like this before. I hope people dont stop talking until Palestine gets back its freedom just like South Africa. Ameen
@nasira1585
@nasira1585 Месяц назад
May Allah bless Ahmed Keeler. He is a blessing for us. ❤
@Steven_Rowe
@Steven_Rowe Месяц назад
That was so enlightening yet leave me feeling so depressed. I'm a London born baby boomer and I always my country was a fair and pleasant land who fought the bad people and WON. at school we learnt history but not the whole truth, we were only told the good side of colonialism. I suppose I believed Israel was a good nation as I didn't understand much. I know see the whole blame for this can be pointed at Britian who engineered this mess. Britain can be described as America's bitch to put it bluntly. American evangelicalism supports Israel as it believes in prophecy and the jews returning so there is a duty to help God out here. On top of this we have Germany who has been guilt ridden since the Nazis so it comes as no surprise they support Israel to make a mends to the past. In Britain it's really a one party state, labour and conservatives are the same, both support Israel and they see that anyone who doesn't subscribe to their politics is an extremist. To protest against the government is extremism. Democracy is no more. How much longer before the boiler of this world blows up.
@salimbegum3179
@salimbegum3179 Месяц назад
Thank you for being here and helping with the truth 💯 truth well said 🎉🎉🎉❤.
@Middlelaneonly
@Middlelaneonly Месяц назад
Very informative and important facts of history. Thank you!
@halakurshov1380
@halakurshov1380 2 месяца назад
Suberb guest. Thank you 👌👏⭐❤️
@ilhamabdulahiibrahim7096
@ilhamabdulahiibrahim7096 2 месяца назад
#freepalastine #hands-offrafah
@giselapfeifer4666
@giselapfeifer4666 Месяц назад
All people living in 'Palistine' should learn to live peacefully together in one land..!
@rosinasiddique4367
@rosinasiddique4367 Месяц назад
So powerful thank you
@lubnaakhtar8665
@lubnaakhtar8665 2 месяца назад
This was brilliant...DjazakaAllah for all the information and insight every show with all the brilliant guestst
@fredflinstone6601
@fredflinstone6601 2 месяца назад
Saw the movies, The Four Feathers “ and “Khartoum” as a kid in South Africa
@davidgamble955
@davidgamble955 Месяц назад
Brilliant and profound. He’ll never be on MSM
@athanasiosraptis5285
@athanasiosraptis5285 2 месяца назад
Very well spoken and well said.
@Ceasarsalate
@Ceasarsalate 2 месяца назад
Interesting & educational video.
@amalb9293
@amalb9293 Месяц назад
Subhanallah💔 Ya Allah🤲 we’re asking your mercy in this blessed month to stop this suffering Ya Allah🤲
@uzzal40ify
@uzzal40ify Месяц назад
Wonderful interview. Every people in the world should listen this interview to know the real isreal history. FREE Palestine.
@SiobhanIreland
@SiobhanIreland Месяц назад
Great guest, great host. Thank you
@qayyaksmith3652
@qayyaksmith3652 2 месяца назад
MashaAllah, this was an excellent share.
@BrianQuinn-ms7iy
@BrianQuinn-ms7iy 2 месяца назад
This Podcast was absolutely 💯 amazing 👏 ❤
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