As Ireland secure a massive win in South Africa, GBR reacts to the big games of the weekend with Mike Tindall, Shane Horgan & Jon "Fox" Davies. GBR Reacts is sponsored by Continental Tyres.
Munster Fan, and loving the introduction of your teams to the URC. SA two week rugby trip has become a bucket list trip, because your fans are a class act. The crews on the SS rugby Chanel are kinda cocky. Then listening to the boots on the ground, thought change, no, they (SA rugby people) are second to none. Are you a Bull, Lion, Shark, Stormer or do you even follow URC.
@@cofy3295Not that much interest in the URC from our fans at first, but many of us know enjoy it as much as we did Super Rugby against the NZ and Aus teams. You have to know the opposition teams and players to really appreciate the games and that takes a few seasons, but we are getting there. Amazes me how the Irish prodice such great teams from sich a comparatively small player base! It is a great competition. From a Lions fan.
The Boks are world class and the supporters I've met have rugby in their blood and are great company, it was a narrow victory for us against the number 1 team in the world.
Andy Farrell has to take huge credit for irelands success , he took Jamison Gibson Park and made him world class and put Jamie Osbourne at 15 , no experience there and Ciaran Crawley who can’t get into Leinster team , well done Andy
Probably the most physical battle, ‘within the laws’, on a rugby field. Ireland really gave the Boks a taste of their own medicine and the Boks struggled to adjust in that first half. Rassie stirred them up at half time and the Boks came back hard in the second half. Brilliant win for Ireland but never rule the Boks out. Two great teams and yet another great match to watch.
Congratulations Ireland.... You now have another quiver in your bow. It was a masterclass bringing on a drop goal specialist at the end. It was an epic game, back and forth and was a lovely physical contest. Now we know what it feels like to lose by a point. I look forward to our next rematch. We love these powerhouse games. Congrats.
Ireland looks like a team that can absolutely adjust to what's in front of them. Do we think Graham Henry's approach of creating essentially two teams is the way to beat Ireland consistently? They've proven they can overcome a loss on more than one occasion and it appears to be habit forming.
I think if Ireland want success next World Cup we need to take a leaf out of the springboks book and get beaten in the pool stages, this team always looks stronger after a loss
A test series draw against the world champions on home soil was a great result - great series, fantastic talent emerging on both sides... fair play to Ireland who were both player and energy depleted at the end of the season - proud of you.
Almost a tradition we should really. Campbell / Ward. Humphreys / O'Gara. O'Gara / Sexton. We need Frawley / Crowley...with Prendergast possibly outstripping both. Leo HAS to to stop with the Byrnes at Leinster. They're solid players but they don't have the ceiling of Frawley or Prendergast.
@marooned-ou4fj I think Crowley's strength is his weakness and vice versa, he's very cool and level headed from what I've seen, but a bit too cool at times, it's far from the first time his kicks have been charged down and blocked. I still think he's a very good player and we're lucky to have him after Sexton retiring. As a Munster man I'm happy to have him, but as an Irishman also very pleased what I saw with Frawley. Hopefully they both can vy for that jersey over the next decade or so, we do need at least 2 international class players for that pivotal position.
You have to hand it to Andy Farrell and how he gets the best from his players even when the chips are down. Keenan, JGP & Hansen were unavailable and then Sheehan and Casey went down injured in the first test. All key players. He then drops POM and Aki for 2nd test and decides to bring in some other lads who chomping at the bit to wear that green jersey and play against the world champions and they all delivered. Osborne, Frawley, Blade, McCloskey etc gave it everything in this second test when it really mattered. Farrell's man management is really top drawer!
The likes of blade and Frawley Osborne, Izzy and Nick Twomey and Tom O'Toole,jager and Thomas ahern need be given game time in November matches to really test out the squad
I don't believe aki got dropped... albeit aki did have a quite first match...he picked up a knock... Aki Henshaw Ringrose And stuart We are spoilt for centre's..
England had the 6 nations and a warm up match whilst the all blacks had 9 days with a completely new coach and management and new combinations!!! This was englands only chance to beat the all blacks at home 😂
(On field) Rugby is absolutely amazing at the moment. I feel we're in a real golden age, such close margins, rivalries building over several years and finally getting good quality behind the scenes access
@@bl2944It wasn't, he clearly went full speed towards Bealhams legs. As soon as he stops he holds his hands up to try to blame Bealham. A clear effort to cheat.
@bl2944 he genuinely slipped, however he tried to cheat after be throwing his hands in the air claiming a fowl. The world or rugby was watching. That was embarrassing to watch it in rugby. Something you see in football.
GBR lads talking about the ABs lineout like it was a disaster. They disrupted 4, 2 of which were just bumbles by people dropping the ball. One which was knocked on from the top. England similarly, had about the same percentage of troubles, yet no comment. Clean breaks/defenders beaten. England didn’t really do a lot. If the only strategy to attack is to kick the ball and hope you recover it, then you’ve likely already lost the game before it starts. I know you lads want to support the English boys and build it up that it was close. But if we look at ceilings. The ABs have so much room to improve, the English however are already close to that ceiling.
The way these guys were talking. The ABs are very much written off and underrated. It's all about how England let us off the hook and how much better England will get and how good Ireland and the Boks are even though the ABs won both games playing poorly and will improve plus Razor will be reviewing that series and tinkering with players that he will want to see yet that will be in the squad and of course there will be another squad announced for the rugby championship. The ABs are far from the finished product yet. But I don't mind if the ABs go under the radar. We all saw what happened last year when Noone was talking about them pre world cup.
Good on Ireland deserved win. The previous week could have gone either way as well. Pity there is not a decider. Frawley brilliant under pressure. Good for rugby. Bok supporter. We love the Irish!
The win for Ireland was great for rugby....I'm really looking forward to the autumn series... HUGE games for Ireland..people will say blood new talent..how do you play any thing other than a full strength against the all blacks..
Ireland played magnificently...what is difficult to believe is that they cant win a world cup...amazing after watching the second test on Saturday...maybe 2027 is their year..
Well they should have beaten NZ in the 2023 RWC but quite honestly choked, the way the ABs have done when going into the RWC clearly the best side. It's a knockout comp, and it takes very little to get knocked out! They should cherish the #1 ranking, it really counts for more. for now.
Mitchell was exceptional and is becoming as key to England as JGP is to Ireland, but we need a second scrum half almost as much as we need a couple of tight heads. But let's be clear four fabulous test matches in the summer series is a real win for us rugby fans, doesn't matter if your a NZ, Bokke, Irish or England supporter ... and well done Ireland.
Delusional tripe. Writing off the ABs after Razor being in charge for two games is just laughable. ABs would have won the RWC if it wasn’t for a certain TMO bottling it and not sending off the Bok’s captain after already sending the NZ captain off. Well done to Ireland though. Great team, fantastic manager & awesome game.
Yeah, all we heard was England, poor England, coulda, shoulda, woulda came up countless times. The end result that matters is the scoreboard after 80. It stands as ABs 2-0 after 2 tests. I found it quite irritating hearing about all the growth England has in their game, which is fair that may be the case, yes. But they clearly see this AB side for what it was after them 2 games. Shane Horgan was happy to throw some jabs in saying there's something wrong with us and our aura being gone, etc. We are just building. There will be innovation in our game to come. I have no doubt Razor wanted to keep things simple for this series and firstly win the tests. They did that. There will be things Razor won't be happy with, and I'm sure they will be addressed and that maybe including selection of the side or members of the wider squad coming in. It's funny, though, just 2 games, and we are written off even though we won them ugly, however you want to call it. If we win the Rugby Championship, it will be interesting to see what they say.
You got it wrong bro the All Blacks have always felt the pressure which is the reason why we are always successful, every team wants to beat us and that's how it's always been.
I remember at the world cup the Allblacks beat Ireland I also remember the Allblacks lost by one point to the world champs with a man down. Tell me how do you guys keep saying Ireland and south Africa are the two best teams. Just think about it for a second
It's the sane attitude that caused Northern hemisphere teams to underrated us at the RWC. The England early subs were because NZ fitness superior. England's water boys were top notch though! lots of fake injuries. Also refs pyschanalyzed the heck out of that last maul.Give it a rest
NZ used to be very good, but not sure anyone would rate them that highly now, they had an out of this world performance against Ireland in the world cup, near perfect and SA never put teams away, and have far too much respect for NZ considering how good they are themselves. I genuinely believe if Robertson can get this crop of players to anywhere near past glories it will be the biggest achievement of his career. Need to drop Ioane from 13 for a start!!
as a nzder no1 no2 don't care they deserve the rankings they earned it what I do care about is that the Abs management and squad are continuously work on their weaknesses their shortcomings because there are some including remapping and team synergy with today's blitz defense big ball carriers that can Shift will be interesting and we have a few
I am still just so surprised by the complete day and night of these two matches. Ireland played so well and SO did South Africa, and the fact that it was 1 1 shows how evenly matched they can be with a weeks difference. SA had our number for a good bit of the first test and then we were able to weather that and move forward. I LOVE this irish team, just because every match is a pleasure to watch. And when we lose it is to the class that teams like South Africa and New Zealand, and indeed England *shakes fist* :D Loving Rugby at the moment
They forget one thing . All blacks have a new staff coaching and were only for 10 days so impossible to learn all the gameplan and combinations. Razor said them : do simple for the tests . They will work the rest in any position . Bothwick has a team settled… difference with the all blacks. It was not the 23 best all blacks but with more experience. In November, we will see the 23 best all blacks with many new youngers players : bell Darry lord sttiti lakai Iose Roigard ratima proctor love .. In November, England will be vs all blacks beast scary !
New coaching staff, ABs lost their starting locks, halfback, blindside and 1st 5 from last year and have just come together as a team. Its crazy how much the ABs get overlooked when they win and its more how the opposition lost it
@@usedtoreadwordupmagazineYeah I think the rest of the world continuously gauge the ABs from 100 years of history and there dominance in world Rugby over the last couple of decades. It's only since 2015 when the ABs lost there once in a generation type of players the ABs started to drop a few tests here and there including to teams the ABs haven't lost too. We are always judged against them great eras so anything less than what we achieved from those sides we get pushed aside as a side in transition or a team that has lost its way and any victory we seem to have even if it's against a top northern hemisphere side, they see themselves bigger than us now and expect to beat us in there eyes. So when it doesn't happen it becomes a whinge debate about what they did wrong to apose to what we did better than them to win the game. We probably need to go through the whole year unbeaten to shift the narrative of people wiping out that negativity towards the ABs aura.
@tristanmckenzie1623 I think the ABs should put up a statue for Beauden Barrett!! They were very lucky and were playing a game of box kicking where there pundits have critized the Boks on so much.
@revenant2979 They may have been lucky but England didn't take there opportunities and the ABs did particularly when Beaudene Barrett came on. Plus England gave away too many silly penalties and the ABs had a malfunctioning lineout and still got the job done. The lineout won't malfunction forever under this coaching group
The reality of the state of world rugby ... right now ... is that there are 5 teams who are capable of beating each other on any given day ... SA, Ire, NZ, Fra & Eng. The world rankings reflect that and the results between these teams has been mainly by one score in the last 2/3 years ... home and away! Rugby is in a good place!!!
5 games..... if going by the physicality of this two game series neither team would have any players left 😂 but would be definitely be exciting to watch. As an Irish supporter I was on the edge of my seat. There isn't much between the top 4/5.
I was the same when SA joined , but honestly it’s the greatest move in world rugby. Getting to see the SA teams is unreal. Awesome rugby players to watch. Without travel hindrance, I’m sure they would probably win, but at least you all your teams travel better than the English, French, Italians, Irish, Scottish and Welch did in the beginning. I was looking at the Currie Cup line up. Lions have a different sponsor, hope your boys go well. I’ll be watching for some threats in our URC contacts. Any name drops to look out for?
You guys didnt point out that the All Blacks are under a new coaching team and that makes it harder to win. The fact that they beat England 2 nil is very impressive because everything is new for them and they are going to get much better.
South African here. Congratulations to Ireland. Their performance deserved them the win, as bitter as it was for us to swallow. As for this "Best team in the world" debate, when the All Blacks were dominant between 2011 and 2015, we did not see them calling themselves the best because they knew they were the best and did not have to overtly say it. To my memory, only some Ireland fans/pundits have been suggesting that Ireland is the best team in the world, even when they exited the World Cup at a quarter-final again, and were no longer ranked first. In other words, Irish fans are the only persons to make this claim despite their team having not won a World Cup. For me, this is just an indication of their desperation to get the World Cup monkey off their backs. To be clear, there is no hate from my side - I just find it interesting.
You have it so wrong! Irish people are some of the most self-deprecating- it’s not Irish fans or pundits who are saying this, it’s the non-Irish press. And it’s just fodder for the trolls to have a go at a small rugby nation who are performing better than many of the bigger nations. The Irish never take anything for granted but know how to keep pushing themselves to be better.
Two ex players one Welsh and the other a Scot commentating on Irelands 6 Nations title describe Ireland as the best team in the world infuriating South African fans who attribute it to the Irish players and media. Then players got involved and what started as a nothing comment by a neutral then became a thing. Totally blown up by fans and content creators on social media It just demonstrates how fragile and precious some fans really are getting upset over an argument you would expect to hear in a school yard between children
Boks, AB's, Ireland and France, they have second 15's who could beat, or run very very close to beating England, Scotland. Problems that Both England and Scotland face for different reasons, no strength in depth. Scotland simply has few players to choose from. England, well they do too, but thats because the prem is full of foreign players blocking the progression of home grown talent. ERFU need to do something about this, but they won't, because the prem structure is broken.
I'm not sure about second string teams from the top 4 ranked teams being strong enough to beat England. Yes England are still developing but they lost to South africa in the rwc semi by a point , they lost in NZ by a point in the first test beat Ireland and lost to France. I think England's ranking at 5th is a fair reflection on where they are however they are getting there. . As for the premiership yes it does have foreign players however PR has restricted how many can be on a match squad . I agree that overseas players have negatively affected developing new players in certain positions like centres . England are desperate for quality props but there is decent depth in in the looks and back row. Nine and ten they have options as well as the back three . Certainly the premiership isn't perfect but more EQPs are playing in the premiership. As a tournament yes they dropped down to 10 teams but it has been competitive and their teams did well in the European Champions. It has problems but it isn't broken.
Very generous commentary lads in all fairness thanks. Jamie Os is gifted Frawley is gifted rarely are we blessed with such a selection with a massive manager too
Sorry I dont watch URC but have SA not also had a ridiculously long season, not just Ireland? Rugby championship->RWC->URC and challenge cup final etc?
Yes they have. I'm not sure where this narrative is coming from. The main difference is in what has happened since the world cup, where Ireland had the 6 Nations while SA had no tests.
Not exactly. Their international season is just starting. They had a break when the six nations was on. The boks have only had 3 games since the WC including yesterday.
Forget the Goal kick Shot Clock. World Rugby needs a Water Boy Clock 😂 Ireland are the better side. Nobody believed the ABs weren't the best in the world from 96' to 2011 despite failing at World Cups. Boks have 4 Rugby Championships in 28 years. They arent consistent enough.
SA are deserved world champs but in their last 5 games with Ireland, Ire have 4 wins and SA have ONLY 1 win. This Ireland side don't lose 2 games on the trot. I think they've only lost 3 of their last 24 games.
Yes great sides in any sport don't just win titles they are consistent too SA aren't that's why they can't really be considered a great side because they lose too many games.
Teams have been close to beating the AB's for decades. During the period where the AB's won 90% of their games, many went into overtime. Richie was captain then. In the last weeks the AB played for 80 minutes mostly poorly and won. What is wrong with England? How did they not beat a underperforming AB's in NZ two times? I don't get it 🤔.
Carefull,,,,, if the the drop missed the discussion would be alot different how Ireland did sqandered a 10 point lead and great how the Boks are to come back
Jeez the boks were a bit poor. Neither team was a bit poor. Ireland just outsmarted them a bit. What would you have said if we did not get those last 2 drops!!! The old story is you play as well as you are allowed, but that even discredits SA's performance.
@@raymonddixon7603 I would have still said that the boks played poorly because they did. Just like they did in the WC semifinal against England but got the rub of the green in that instance.
Well played Ireland - easily the two best teams currently. I was annoyed that the Boks didn't go for even one lineout/maul option out of those eight penalty kicks.
We are in a new era where there is not much between the top teams as we know. What this means is noone has to win every game to be #1...because numerous teams can beat another on any day. They simply have to win a good portion against good oppostion. Gone are the days of the dominance that the AB's had for so long where they won almost every game and were expected to win every game. If/when Ireland/AB's/France/England get to #1 it will be well deserved and the same principle should apply. Be at #1 and lose a game or 2 to the top teams should not suddenly mean you are not #1. The debate will always be there I suppose. Also, with teams changing up now, not sure how relevant it is at this point in time anyway.
Im surprised the panel dont see the problem with the English scrum. Its the main reason for their loss here in NZ. Before bedding M.Smith in they should be worried about the scrum more. They have the tools everywhere but the scrum
I can tell you what annoyed a lot of irish fans and maybe some players was the constant making fun of the song zombie… if anyone knows what that song is about you can’t just bastardise it, the dj in loftus hyping up the crowd when Casey was knocked out cold surrounded by medics. Ironically the disrespect from the dj again when he played emotional damage after Crowley missed a kick only for Frawley to seal the deal with a drop kick… im still baffled as to how world champions couldn’t score one try
Enjoy the win. Celebrate like it's the world cup final. It's the closest you lot ever get lol We'll take the series as a loss because thats what champions do with draws. See you next season..
Omg really. Zombie is just a song. You have the audacity to sing it to a country where many children due to economic circumstances struggle with hunger during the WC when South Africa lost. So give it a rest. LOVED the dj - witty! It's sport. Just celebrate man. And I dont think playing Coldplay "Sky full of stars" during Casey injury as disrespectful unless you wanted us to play something from church, a prayer perhaps? Enjoy the win. Well deserved.
no one talking about sexton been missing. have we found a new dimension.... and depth... we building some great depth across the park. New Zealand November 10th in Dublin will be a cracker.
Maybe, it might take the ABs a little longer to reverse the decline of the last few years. I think we have the players all right, now we just have to find out if the coaching is up to it. . Of course most of our one-eyed fans will say otherwise!
Lads, the elephant in the room is the front row. We are seriously underpowered in the props. Cant scrum cant win. England seriously need to address this or they wont win 6N or a WC
Shane Horgan, you bad man! 😉How crafty of you to take the spotlight off Ireland (who have arguably been the best team in the world over the last 5 years) and insist that the Northern hemisphere need to get together to take NZ (your craftiness confirmed by the way the learned panel all piled on with your suggestion! 😊 Surely the rugby teams need to be focusing on taking down Ireland and South Africa instead! I've got my one-eyed AB supporter radar attuned to your shenanigans😅 Great show lads. Love the insightful banter.
Ben Earls's passing was a killer for England. He threw multiple 'pop' passes that were high and slow and led to recipients getting belted and/or turned over. The penalty for the obstruction was spot on. It was a text book case of a maul halting, then a break away group setting off with the ball carrier not at the front. Too often it isn't penalized as it should be. What was an error from the ref (and the AR's and TMO) was in the lead up to the AB's first try, Ardie Savea goes into contact and has a knee on the ground. At this point he is technically tackled and must release the ball before regaining his feet but he carries on regardless and makes a lot of metres on his carry, which set things up the try. If ball carriers get the advantage of the tacklers being called to release when they barely get a knee to ground to be technically tackled, they can't at other times get a knee to ground and carry on as if it didn't happen. Otherwise the reffing was pretty good.
Is Frawley fourth choice 10 at Leinster? After the Byrnes and Prendergast? I've seen him play fb with Ireland but had no idea he was from Leinster cause Keenan is 15 there.
It’s not that we take it personally. It’s the fact it’s such a moronic statement calling Ireland the best team in the world when South Africa are literally the greatest side of all time.
I think possible that sa ab and England will all be much better in a year. SA can refresh the team with great players in the pipeline. AB start of new way if playing. England still on climb from from a low point
I really think the wreckless physicality we saw on Saturday is a race to the bottom, but if you don’t bring that against SA you are on the backfoot. When you compare the blood and impacts on Saturday to most of the yellow and red cards for head coontact we have seen in recent years, the idea of player welfare is turned on its head
The Boks have always been a super physical rugby team and to have a chance of beating them you have to absolutely contest their physicality.. Well done Ireland 👏👏.
Mike lol, we all know that the boks are the best, how many world cups have you won Mike? This is the lost we needed before the Championship, so bringing us back to perform, so no hard feelings about the loss. Our biggest rivalry is the All Blacks for over a 100 years now, and will always be our rivalry.
@@DomDeDomyou know Dom Dom although Ireland haven’t won a world cup the are the most successful 6 nations team they have gone south and won series they have beaten every team on the planet in real time. The have been constant winners in the last 20 years , it never took them 18 months to become 5th in the world, and for a tiny nation with a tiny pool of rugby players they are very successful. Compare with England the richest rugby nation the second biggest pool of rugby players on the planet the best facilities and yet countries like NZ with tiny population small rugby pool of players embarrass them by how much they have won. England won a WC 20 years ago there team falls apart every 3/4 years they lie 5th in the world which is about right for them. But trying to compare to Ireland is BS compare apples with apples and you’ll see a major failing with England not Ireland .
Delighted with the win, but SA are monsters. I think it was touch and go and I think us beating them with our attacking and breakdown game just did it. (Interesting! to hear Mike Tindall - who was shit and is not interesting at all), but without such a shit player I think England looked aright. Good centres for a change Mike!
Hang on, last time the All Blacks played Ireland, the All Blacks won. Last time England played Ireland, England won. The last time the All Blacks played South Africa they lost by 1 with 14 men. The All Blacks just beat England twice in a row and Ireland traded with South Africa. By aggregate, the All Blacks must be the best team in the world? 🤔🤷♂️🤣🤣🤣
NZ played possibly the best / most perfect game of rugby in that qtr, they literally played above themselves, never to be replicated especially by the guy who is not Mc Caw. I don't think anyone in NZ thinks this current team could compete with teams prior to 2016, just too many weaknesses
@CF-lg8jd if that'll help you sleep at night keep telling yourself that. Remember, we went from losing a qtr final of our own to winning b2b world cups. The All Blacks have been great for 120 years for a reason.
And we can go around in circles with rankings and world cups and 6 nations, the 2 heavyweigts faced each other and ireland won, they r the best in the world today
Kolbe what an embarrassing moment for South African rugby . Great player but I have lost a lot of respect for him and the senior players who knew it was a dive straight out of an under 10s soccer match but try to convince a World class ref otherwise. Sad end to the game for a South African