Jeff sanders sixth generation Vaquero talking with Steve Halfpenny about hackamores and bits used in the Central West Coast Californian Vaquero tradition
You are the first person that I have come across that is not stuck on having to go to the spade bit. Plenty of horses do very well in the traditional hackamore or rope halter for their entire riding lives. Thanks for the voice of reason.
Hi Gerry, must be the company you keep :) I've come across plenty of people who don't see the bosal as an intermediate step to the spade. Whereas very few horsemen are capable of developing a bridle horse -- or are even interested in doing that.
Wow, great video! Answered a lot of questions I had, especially with the spade bit, which I had always viewed as some what of a harsh bit. But I know that any bit in rough hands can be harsh. Will I ever ride in one now, probably not because I have no need to, but I see where it is applicable. Also, I’m not a bosal guru but I’ve been seeing these rope braided bosals being advertised and sold and I thought to myself that’s not going to work the same as a real bosal, Jeff just confirmed that thought. Really loved watching you and Jeff in your videos, also Gandalf is awesome, I too have a little yella horse.
Beg to differ w/definition of bosal & hackamore. I learned that a bosal is the rawhide that goes around the nose (bosalito if it's smaller diameter and hangs with the spade bit) and that the hackamore is the whole rig -- bosal, bosal hanger and possibly also the mecate. Not sure about the mecate. So bosal comparable to bit; hackamore comparable to bridle.
@@gerrycoleman7290 haha no! Just tired of uneducated bastards puking out their ignorant shit. Keep on ridin' with your pink rope halter, just because you are such a poor rider that can't ride in anything other then your pink ropehalter with out hurting your horse. That pretty much sums up your crappy riding. No one asked for your opinion on every damned video.
@@TheTeenagedirt Idk about Gerry's horsemanship but you seriously need to get a grip. I suspect that no one is interested in what you have to contribute either.
Not necessarily. I watch Pat Puckett's videos a lot. He's a lifelong cowboy and likes to develop a spade bit horse from time to time. He has no problem with people riding long term in hackamores (without going on to spade bit) but he does say that you have less control with a hackamore. Less than with a snaffle, certainly, because you have no lateral control. And less than with a shank bit. So it can be fine if you have a well trained horse and you're riding him in familiar territory. But if you get in a tight spot -- which can easily happen if you're riding various ranch horses whose raining you can't vouch for, in wide open spaces -- a hackamore isn't what you want to be riding in. You might enjoy his YT videos. Cool old guy who definitely keeps it real.
With all due respect to Jeff,i have to disagree with his Terms of definition,regarding the Old Hackamore.The Hacamore or rather the Jaquima,Is the whole outfit.Bosal,,Hanger and Mecate.The Bosal is the larger one,riden by itself and the small one riden under the bridal or for the get down,is referred to as Bosalito.
Talking with Jeff about this. It seems that it depends where you were raised. Jeff was raised in the Central Coast of California and he shares what he learned from his family and peers.
Stephan.....I understand that.I worked in the central coast region as well and my Grandfather was raised on the Tejon ranch,north of LA,Ca.The terms were the same in both regions.Since we are on the subject,i heard another Term in this video,that was commonly mis pronounced .....Vaquero......All too often,i hear it pronounced with the V sound when it is properly pronounced with a B sound.Hence the Anglicized form of Buckaroo....Next time i see Jeff,ill have to take this up with him personally.
