I'm in China, and I test-drive this car. The car is definitely more good-looking than in the pictures. Fast and amazing in handling, the drive is definitely enjoyable at the price. The only bad part is that the soundproofing is not good enough (kind of worse than the new Model 3). The Salesman told me many staff in the Geely group had bought this car themselves.
And the best part, this isn't a questionable new brand, but a well established brand. Zeekr is basically the EV department of Lynk & Co, which is an offspring of Geely, and has traditionally been the first brand in China to push for performance cars, with LOTUS making the suspension for their Zeekr 001.
75 kWh battery, charges 80% in 5 min. That is a charging rate of 12 x 60 kW = 720 kW So this is only possible with megawatt chargers like the ones for the Tesla Semi truck.
Yep. I think there is much to de-bunk and un-twine here. The press releases that I came across claimed 500km of range in 15 minutes. Also ZEEKR operates roughly 400 "ultra-fast" chargers with 360 kW peak. They claim to expand that amount of stations, not the outputs of those. So we are looking at 360 kW charging. At 688 km of range for the 007, 500 km probably reflects the 10% to 80% optimal charging window.
Yes, does not make sense. Even if a charger was up to the task, the amount of heat produced due to the internal resistance of the pack would require unbelievable heat transfer
GAC had 900kw Charging in pre production last year. Fully charge has a demo video for the system. Cant said Geely doesnt having something similar in pipeline. It is good to have architechture with bit of more foresight to ensure it wont obsolete too fast. The people buying this car may not have the infrustructure to tap in the full potential at the moment. But when couple year down the road, the newer chargeer online. They will be enjoying this feature.
@@林振华-t4v The question is how detrimental is it to the battery to charge at that rate. You can do things in a demo that are good for marketing points, but not good for standard practice.
Sam. Wish you, your wife and the boys best for 2024. My main prayer concerns your wife and the sad impact on your family. Bless you and keep up the nice job your doing. Love it
Joe Biden said Chinese EV like BYD are destroying "our freedom and democracy". He reminds me the Chinese emperor from the Qing dynasty. He refused to trade with the west who was going to crush China's textile industry due to steam machine mass produced ones are better in quality and cheaper in price than Chinese hand made fabrics. And we all know what happened to China next in the history.
@@PaleBlueDotCitizen Ya throw a diesel generator in the trunk and its a hybrid LOL We are not going to see a supercharger network in the USA for a very long time... and even longer as EV sales slow. That's 20 years away. However this is a decent looking car. Tesla needs to update their models at least ever 2 years with different aesthetics... I just find Tesla boring as sh|+ and the interiors suck. Not to mention these EVs are way too fast for most drivers with a 0-60 at 3 seconds. I would sacrifice that to have a fully loaded interior. Maybe they should make a dual-motor version where the second motor is actually for amazing efficiency on the highway and it disconnects the huge main drive motor. Once your moving you dont need much power to keep it going down the highway.
they've got the government playing defence for them. ... and they have your tax dollars waiting in the wings to bail them out for some bug fat bonuses at the end of it all. they are not worries.
Yeah, for the price I'd say you cant beat it. Almost too good to be true with the charging rate and range but good for them if it is true. The screen on the front is goofy but the outside speakers could be nice if you were parked and wanted to play some music. Nice car.
The specs you are listing are the top of the range model that is over $40k. The base model doesn't have anywhere near the performance, it also doesnt have any of the self driving features because it doesn't have lidar in the base model. Base model also doesn't include the LED bumper.
Didn't Tesla remove lidar? Not sure lidar is a pre-requisite for some forms of self driving. $40k is still a good price if it goes as good as it looks. Though doubt I have any 600/500kw chargers near me.
@@geoffhaylock6848 Tesla never had lidar. It is a very expensive technology. Tesla did have radar (since removed) and ultrasonic sensors (also removed) but never lidar.
Given relationship and past cooperation between Zeekr and Polestar (both owned by Geely), there’s a good chance this comes to US and Europe under Polestar brand, eg upcoming Polestar 4 shares platform and bunch of technology of Zeekr 001.
It's good you say 'zero zero seven' which it always has been, rather than 'oh oh seven' which it cannot be. And I've always wanted to be able to send text messages to those outside the car - like 'stop tailgating' or 'thank you'. And to be able to speak to those outside the car too. I don't think it's s gimmick. I used to have a speaker outside my helicopter.
Very intriguing but I would hesitate to call it a "better car" than, well, anything else sight unseen. Will it access Tesla SC network? Will it have Tesla-like reliability or will it burn your house down? How expensive is it going to be in the U.S. after all the chinese import penalties? How does it actually drive and handle? Sure looks good but I'm going to hold off on the verdict until it is in my country.
What about crash test and safety rating, depreciation, max number of charging cycles, cost to replace battery, warranty, battery degredation over time, over the air updates, charging plug (NACS, CCS, other ? ), home charging, charging using normal 110/220V plug, adapters, accessories, charging network, service center network, service turn around time, availability of an SUV or hot-hatch versions of the Zeeker ? All things that just ran through my mind. Looks promising. Quality, pricing, insurance, availability, import taxes... So much to think about. Exciting ! ! !
correct, another electric car supplier from China, will Geely survive, and what about reliability and durability. And do they have a complete grasp of Code of Conduct, which is one of the things that Chinese manufacturers find difficult to comply with. I will wait a while longer, one is a lot of spec on a piece of paper, another is the reality after a few years.
If this car comes to Europe with a reasonable price, I think I'm sold. I drove the Polestar 2, which is a fantastic car, I drove Nio, HiPhi, Lucid, Tesla, BYD, but this steals the cake, especially for the price!
dont be so excited for you have yet to hear how they offer after sales service. may be for a year or two, every car they sell run well. then, who knows everything starts to break apart
@@scottw4208 For your information we stopped Steel coming into Canada for the Arctic, it could not pass sthe Sharpi test for Arctic Steel, which is a Canadian Standard for any Steel headed for the Arctic . All POs read, NO Steel From China to all the Contractors. That’s how much power Auditors have.
My order stopped Steel from China going to the Canadian Arctic for construction. Chinese Steel couldn’t meet the Sharpi standard for Arctic Steel. At -40c Chinese Steel snaps like a pretzel. As an Engineering Auditor I have that Authority. To make sure sure steel meets CSA Standards
When you buy a Tesla, you're not just buying the hardware(including charging), you are buying the whole infrastructure, including technological advancements with FSD and all other continual improvements.
Super fastcharging sounds great but at what cost to the battery life.There are usually trade offsite the company making any profits and how much of these figures are real.
@@IamHandsome4u Oh really!? Perhaps you should me made aware of the chaos surrounding Chinese EVs, that you don't hear about in mainstream media. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yOA7qKMcjcE.html They have a heck of a lot to prove, my friend, and jumping blindingly in the hype train is akin to playing Russian Roulette.
Sam, I thought you learned your lesson about recommending cars based on advertised specs. You bragged on BYD forever until you bought one and sold it right away. Without driving one, who can say how good it is?
Claims of a car that is not yet produced is basically a stock pump . Until the car reaches production limits and sone realworld driving and charging its just a dream for now Not sure where the chinesse chargibg network stands but fineing charging at this level is probably limited .
Sam, are you just reading stats on the 007 ??? where is the independent verification of all this? is there battery degradation if you charge in 15 minutes. it's all just blah blah until rigorous cross checking and real world driving has been done. i hope it's true but.....
Honestly how can you compare vaporware that hopes to arrive in 2 years with a highly successful, functioning model like the Tesla 3? The best features of the 3 (IMO) are the quality and robustness of design and the longevity (likely half a million miles (again, IMO). With respect, you haven’t got a clue about anything from how the motors are built to whether the battery thermal management is acceptable. I can see you covering this prospective car with enthusiasm and anticipation, but not claiming it “blows away” anything let alone a Tesla. Again, I’ve been following you for a long time now and mean no disrespect, but for all you know, at this point in time, maybe it just blows up.
Wait till you see the reviews on Huawei's intelligent driving system in their ev brand Aito or their joint venture Luxeed S7 electric sedan. Mind blowing
Something’s not right here. 75 KWH and 690 KLM is 9.2 KLM/KWH. That is massively more efficient than anything else in existence. I get around 7.6 in my 2021 SR+ - which is smaller and I am assuming much lighter. The basic physics tells me these is more than a little exaggeration here. IF not - I’ll get one.
@@Rick_Cavallaro More like an pr manager anything related to electricity Also what he did not mention. The Models are a lot more expensive in Europe than on the chinese market. Not even in his own country he will get them this cheap.
This is because it is measured according to the Chinese CLTC standard which is even more whimsical than the western WLTP standard. 690 km CLTC is more like 600 km WLTP. With a 75 kWh battery, the efficiency is then 8 km/kWh (or 12.5 km per 100 km) which is a good efficiency perfectly achievable with today's EV technology. However, pay attention that the 75 kWh announced may be the raw battery capacity and not the real useful net capacity, so the real efficiency may be in fact lower.
Treat those specs with caution. They may be advertising gimmicks. It will be wiser to listen to the users after they have driven the EVs for some time.
I'll believe it when it goes into volume production and it is tested by EV reviewers on it's range, charging curve, efficiency and most important reliability!
Teardown expert Sandy Munro believes the Chinese made cars are very good in fit and finish,I just have been a passenger in a Chinese made car ,MG a British brand that is now 100% Chinese, if that my ride experience is any reflection the Japanese and Korean makes are in for a rude awakening!The West have taught the Chinese automotive industry about QC and they are as good as any we have in the West.
I like this channel but I find that there is too often sensational clickbait news presented as established fact when it's actually just early research or untested statements
This car sounds great!! However, will it be still be $29,000 outside of China? (It seems a lot of cars are twice the price, or more, by the time they make it to Europe or elsewhere.)
Liberal democracies apparently no longer believe in free markets and are resorting to massive protectionism under pretexts of "Forced Labor" and "National Security Threat".
Less. I expect it to be 100 million sales per year in 5 years. It is the only car to buy. Safest, fastest, best AI, longest range, fastest charging. Impossible to wreck and fireproof. For sale world wide for $19,999 each. Sam said so.
The claimed range of 690 km is based on the CLTC-Cycle, which doesn't reflect real-world conditions. Achieving such an impressive range with a 75 kWh battery seems utopic given the current battery technology because Geely would have to be ahead of all the other companies in battery technology in order to actually achieve that. It's probable that the actual real-world range is similar to its competitors, so basically depending on driving speed and temperature around 300-450 km. Also, have these superfast charging speed claims been tested in real-world ?
Credit where credit is due, this is the best battery technology the world has ever seen (if true). However Tesla has a monstrous lead on software and charging infrastructure, also safety (safest cars ever tested), etc. It ain’t just about batteries, we can’t forget that.
@@louxuan1 It's only been making cars since 1998. Without looking it up, who could name the 2 EVs it is making. Just because it owns a couple of foreign brands does not mean it has access to any technology. Geely until now has never made its own battery, but is able to leap frog the entire battery industry. They are still buying batteries. These companies are able to make outrageous claims because there is no accountability. So called reporters cheer them on. Charging a 70kw battery to 100% in 15 minutes would require a 350kw charger, which is still non-existent in Chi na. We all know charging speeds come down once It hits 80%, but Geely batteries don't. How is it a company new to battery manufacturing has beat CATL and BYD. It seems like a stock pump. I'm going to wait for third party tests.
The 007 is using CATL's QLin battery pack which utilizes 4680 cells - this demonstrates you can have different chemistries in the 4680 format. I think this is Tesla's long term strategy. I will want to see real world measurement on cold weather charging - not sure I would believe that just based on marketing materials from Zeekr.
@@anthonyc8499 I think you have a great idea there. I would make sense for the Volvo and Polestar dealers to sell the Zeekr EVs. The dealers might lose volvo sales BUT the increase in total EV sales would overcome the financial concerns.
We have all kinds of Chinese cars in the Philippines, ICE and BEVs one thing you will notice, the Japanese BEVs are MIA, as in "Non existent" and. BYD will be the next Toyota, that is the future of the Automotive world, Toyota can keep their Hydrogen Fool Cell car, try fueling that car of the future!
Gonna be honest. Those prices remain a wet dream for the US & European markets. Based on the Zeekr1 and X and the BYD Han, which have been released in Europe, and all of which all had a hefty price hike of about 75% compared to the Chinese market, it will cost over 65.000€ in the EU, and will carry a similar price tag in the US. For that money it had damn better be much better than my Model 3 performance which had cost me 46.310€ (after a 4.500 government subsidy which this car WON'T get because it's over the price limit to qualify for subsidies).
Zeekr 007 is based on Geely's "Sustainable Experience Architecture" (SEA) platform. Unders this platform, cars shares common technologies such as battery, motors and the corresponding controlling systems. Examples of other cars under the SEA platform are Smart #1/#3, Polestar 4, Volvo EX30 and etc. Zeekr 007 uses Nvidia Orin-X as the AI chip for autonomous driving functions and the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8295 for smart cockpit. It has LiDAR (certain models) which neither Tesla nor BYD is not using (for most of it's cars). At the backend, Geely employed some developers from Huawei to develop the autonomous driving for Zeekr. Now Zeekr has much better autonomous driving function than BYD. For example, it has automatic parking in confined garages. Apart, driving control of Geely/Lynk & Co is "traditionally" much better than BYD.
Even with the 25% tax this car would be competitive in the USA. 428 mi of range is probably an exaggeration, it sounds like on the EPA cycle it would probably beat the long-range model 3, but priced at about the same as a standard range
If it sounds to good to be true Then Iit is likely to be to good to be true😀 Be interesting to see how it performs in real life Sounds like it will have the CATL new high performance battery Once CATL has these in volume production sure Tesla be keen to use the new batteries
Will it have FSD like Tesla. Thanks to FSD I fell asleep on the freeway 5 times and my Tesla model 3 took over. At my age I am more about the technology that will keep me alive. I attribute falling asleep on the drugs used to fight cancer. It’s the total package of technology that most older people want.
At least a year ago I voted the Zeekr were fabulous cars and wanted it then, but yes it is a drop dead gorgeous looking machine to have in your garage… !
The headlight wrap around line needs to be extended to the spoiler in the back. Some kind of paint line, pin stripes, vinyl tape or something. Other than that, it's a good looking car. Heckova battery pack too, if it is as good as they claim.
Sam, some quick fact checking confirms this car can go 541 miles on a 100 Kw pack compared to the 75 Kw @ 341 miles model 3. From my perspective, unless they have broken through some efficiency barrier with either the Motors or the air there is simply no way that car can go that range. A kilowatt is a kilowatt, there are no supercharged kilowatts. It is a specific unit of measure. Let's see if they can manufacture it.
when people consider buying a product in the cases, it’s bigger than just the car Tesla is more than a car sitting on the road. It’s also the ecosystem it’s the charging. It’s the navigation. It’s the systems that make it do what it does that need to be considered as part of the purchase basic things like over the air updates that not many other companies even seem to be contemplating at this stage.
hello Sam, Now that we are in the 2024 year, do you think I would get the refreshed model 3 or the current Model 3 if I place my order today (i am in the US)? thanks Alot
Loving the styling on these Chinese EV cars Tesla was good when it came out 10 years ago but getting stale. The Vinfast cars are attractive but they just don’t do it for me .
The range will be about 20% less based on EPA test cycle. China has a different mile measuring system that's very optimistic vs EPA. IE. The Model 3 is measured at almost 100 miles more range in China vs US/Europe. Still pretty good range even if you chop off the 20% but not mind blowing.
there are 2 versions, normal and perfomance, perfomance one is crazy fast, but dont have any radars, dont have massage, led front bumper, only in yellow and other staff. new battery only in perfomance...
Why am I comparing this to Nikola, with the same charm as Trevor Milton? Waiting for independent RU-vid reviews once deliveries start outside of China. My skepticism comes from the old saying “If it seems too good to be true, it probably isn’t “.
What is most astounding to me is that whether it's BYD, Xpeng or Zeekr who are presenting their brand new model, all of them wear Michelin tires... the best French company in the automobile industry.
The Chinese use the CLTC-Cycle to state the autonomy of their EV. That cycle is the most distant cycle from reality: the "American" EPA, the European WLTP and the Chinese CLTC (China Light Duty Vehicle Test Cycle). The latter is the cycle that lies the most. The EPA figures are the most realistic. The EPA cycle is only a few percentage points more optimistic than what you can get in real-world conditions. The WLTP data are about 22 per cent higher than EPA, while the CLTC cycle results are about 35% higher than EPA. In conclusion, you have to discount 40% out of those 690 km in the CLTC cycle. That 75kWh battery could allow 400 km at best.
@@haukionkannel The point is not if 400 km is good or not. The point is that those "690 km" are deceiving (typical Chinese mentality), as Europeans and especially "Americans" use different, much more realistic methodologies (Especially the EPA) to estimate the ADVERTISED capabilities of the vehicles. By the way, have a nice 2024, peace.
The Chinese electric car manufacturer BYD overtakes Tesla after record deliveries in December. BYD sold 3.2 million cars in 2023. 1.6 million were pure electric cars. In the fourth quarter, BYD sold 526,409 electric cars after sales growth of as much as 70 per cent in December. BYD, which has Warren Buffett's investment company Berkshire Hathaway as one of its largest owners, has about 35 percent of the Chinese electric car market. BYD has done this faster than many thought possible. Now the rest of the industry has to accelerate to keep up.
A sedan is a people mover not an equipment mover. And it does it more efficiently than larger vehicles. But people would rather have the ability to also move equipment.
Estates are much better and in my opinion Better tHan suvs. Better road handling and efficiency and less body roll so eg less car sickness (generally) - what’s not to like?
@simoncove1 With an SUV you can go off roading and drive over rocks and stuff. How am I supposed to pull my 45 foot trailer. What if it snows. O sorry about that, my Americanism was showing through. Yes I agree. I have owned 5 sedans and 3 hatchbacks. I would take an estate or a station wagon over a tipover toy (suv) any day
@@ecospider5 yep we don’t get snow in the uk . I don’t really get the suv thing . Mountain biking in the 90s. Really popular but really road bikes with big tires or gravel, bikes, or hybrid are generally much more useful than mountain bikes for 90% of people.
I am impressed by this technology However, I am not sure how many charging Stations can deliver over 350 kw and if this is necessary if you usually charge at home If I go on a Trip, I like a break where I can eat something. 30 min of charging are no Problem for me. Considering everything, I might prefer the Model 3 Highland
The 007 is based on the same SEA architecture as the Polestar 4, which will be sold in the US. But the Polestar 4 barely cracks 300 miles of range. Could it be a different battery in the Polestar? Or is the EPA range rating that much more realistic than CLTC? If a 75kwh battery actually delivers 700+km of range, I'll be stunned\thrilled.
I don't know why people are so obsessed with charging times. After a 3-4 hours drive I need to stretch out and get something to drink and possibly eat. I rather take a good break than roast my car's battery pack. These kilowatts are absolutely insane. I often had to move my car to regular parking slot in order to finish my meal and avoid penalties from the SuC...
