Welcome to the inaugural episode of our new series, "Off the Cuff!" Let us know in the comments what you think of this more laid-back, conversational, dare we say "podcast-style" content, and if you've got suggestions for how it can be improved in future installments! - Preston
It's great. Just keep it under 60 minutes, or even under 45 minutes. It's just something you would listen to while you commute, but that you would like to have ended when you reached your destination. Podcasts of over an hour can feel a bit daunting.
Good topic. And something to explore sometime: how does the passage of time influence the definition of "classic style"? Will 80's/90's styles become "classic" past a point? Wil Armani suits become "classic"? lol
i think this format can be risky. Those in discussion can be quite informed and substantial t pull this off week after week, but you do have two really great interlocutors. So, keep that up.
You’re incredibly eloquent and well spoken, sir. If I just heard your voice and didn’t know your age, I would think you were in your 30s or 40s. I mean that as a compliment! Going to check out your channel for sure
yes appreciated this cross generational conversation, Had watched a few of your vids prior to this. As a Gen X moving into classical style I appreciate all 3 of you and have subscribed to you all.
I love this! This is the SINCERE group of menswear influencers. Antonio has been consistent throughout the years, not screaming into the camera, but TEACHING!
Best time to be growing up as well as young adult so much potential. Now a days I don't see it happening for not just the Gen Z but worse for those after Z.
I am 45 and I think it’s safe to say gen Z objectively has it harder than my generation and older generations. I began my career in the early 2000s and it was still possible to secure a stable working class or middle-class job with great benefits, decent pay and good job security. You could save up, buy a home with a modest down payment, start a family and do that whole American dream thing. The great recession in the late 2000s is really where that dream started to collapse, and It’s pretty much gone now for the vast majority of folks starting their careers today. The idea that any kid with enough ambition and an iPhone can start a successful social media business is like saying any high school basketball player can bank on joining the NBA when he graduates. Statistically, it just doesn’t happen for most people, despite their efforts. My nephew is 26 years old and has to work two jobs just to afford rent that he splits with three other guys. The cost of living is insane out there
I’m 46, and I do agree that housing costs have gone nuts. I only own a decent house because I had an insane year in 2016, got a six figure bonus, put it all toward a downpayment. And locked in 3.5% interest on a 15yr note. Had I had an average year that year? Would still probably be renting. I feel bad for my kids when they grow up. Something has got to give on housing prices. Anyone remember the housing bubble leading up to the housing crash of around 2008 and the Great Recession? This is a cyclical issue. I have no idea what the solution is, but there needs to be one. And no, you quirky tiny house folk, the solution isn’t to only have three possessions and live in a 62sq foot shack 😬
@@TechnoLawyer exactly. I had been a renter, and my folks urged me to look into buying a condo or starter home around 2009, and of course because of the economic crash, housing prices were dirt cheap. I also lucked out and found a credit union still offering 100% loans, so it was a specific confluence of random fortune that allowed me to get my foot in the door. Had I not done it then, the possibility of homeownership probably would have evaded me. Once you get your first place, then of course it becomes easier to sit on it for a while, build equity, sell it and go buy a larger or better home if that’s what you want to do. sadly, a lot of these younger folks aren’t going to get much of a shot at that first home. Something definitely needs to be done
@@pensivepenguin3000 stop feeling sorry for the tick tock generation. They don't know what it means to GET OUT AND WORK. All they do all day is only fans, video games, watch animations/cartoons, and loot stores. If they took their education more seriously like you folks have, there wouldn't be an issue. But since most of them are banking off their parents' money, there should be no sympathy.
Thank you for the empathy. It's a talking point that as a Milenial, we've tried to communicate to our peers and parents. Growing up, I saw so much bashing towards Millennials and the struggles that we faced were met with "stop buying Starbucks and avocado toast." It sincerely made me not want to bash Gen Z and I don't to this day.
Genuinely started watching each 3 of these channels at the same time some months ago and I got so hyped seeing them all in the same video let alone room!
when Gent Z mentioned Loro Piana as a defining brand i feel like he was totally off, it was merely dictated by recency bias. the culture that was very defining in Gen Z was hypebeast fashion and social media fashion styles
yeah even though he doesn't wear these brands I was surprised not to hear brands like fear of god, supreme, maison margiela, balenciaga, or yeezy. He was pretty spot on with ralph lauren though. Sperry was THE casual leather shoe for like 15 years too.
@@Vincetagram i very much agree with you. another noteworthy thing is that very new brands in particular the streetwear segmentation have fashion has given rise to a number of brands who have all more been widely accepted by Gen Z, brands like Represent, Peso, MNML, Trendtvision and many more, highlighting just how powerful social media and having a strong digital presence can be.
@@SpirithunterBOMB tbh I've never heard of those but I looked them up and they look like they're kinda following the trends that the aforementioned brands set in the late 2010s/early 20s, but I definitely get what you're saying. So many clothing companies are popping up purely off social media hype and some great designs and the older companies aren't quite tapping into that yet.
Wow. Not only was this one of the most insightful and enjoyable videos on this channel, but one of the best discussions I’ve heard overall in a long while. I think anytime we start coming together and talking with one another instead of bickering with one another from afar, we become better as a society. I loved the inner generational dialogue, gents!
@@ClassicTor Depends on the job role and practice area. Prosecutor who is in court all day every day? Yeah of course. Law firm attorney? Generally, suit only when in court, otherwise business casual (dress shirt or polo and slacks/chinos) or more dressed up business casual (sport coat, dress shirt, slacks). As to client meetings, depends on the client. Big corporation? I’ll always wear a suit. Smaller companies or individuals? I’ll go dressed up business casual.
The holy trinity of menswear! Been watching each of these guys for years, great to see all my favourite menswear stylists coming together to debate and discuss a topic that has influenced my fashion choices and personal style.
Hello Gentlemen’s Gazette! I have to say that I am amazed and absolutely love this channel, at the time of me writing this comment, I am 15 years old and I have always loved the vintage style of classic menswear. I had just started to make my own ensembles a few weeks ago and just finished assembling my white tie ensemble. Raphael I must say, you really helped me A LOT to elevate my style and I truly feel happy and like myself dressing this way. Thank you so much for everything and this channel! Love you guys! -Johnathan 👋🏽
Thank you very much truly! I plan on wearing it to my sister’s wedding in two weeks! I know that I will definitely feel confident wearing such a piece, it really is a shame that it has been accurately left behind to history for a bit of time. But I felt stoked when I saw your white tie video which gave me the inspiration to assemble my own. Again, thank you so much for everything! ❤ -Johnathan 🤵🏽👋🏽
2:04 Antonio is telling about the 1980s “power suits” and big shoulder styles. To illustrate his words the authors decided to show examples of Brooks Brothers drawings, representing the exact opposite of “power suits and big shoulders”.
I am intrigued by seeing these guys side by side. From left to right: retro, pseudo-Italian, British. At least that is the aesthetic I am seeing. I enjoyed they discussion and have learned something from each participant.
I loved this conversation and I would love to have this as an ongoing podcast that focuses on more specific topics that you all can dive deeper into based on your viewpoints of the generation. I have to thank all of you, as you have inspired me over the several years of following RMRS and GG to try and dress better, take care of myself better, and be more of a gentleman.
Antonio, the natural raconteur. Raphael, the consumate mediator. James, the respectful investigator. Halfway through and this is an utter joy. I think we are witnessing history, my friends! I think I shall write a piece on this. Kudos gentlemen, and bon chance in our new world.
Great job, gentlemen! I love that the three of you are working together. Your three of my favorite to watch, so this is like Christmas morning! Be well.
This was a great video!!!! Thank you!! It's interesting to see three generations talk about their definitions of style and what options each generation had. Very interesting.
Love how we got to see James speaking in a more natural environment with less of an agenda, even cracking jokes (came out of nowhere, had me laughing :)) Keep up the great work y'all
when i was at school the language/slang we'd use would make a modern man blush! but what we meant was not the original meaning of the word. usually it meant 'that's rubbish!' or 'i completed that with flying colours'. i miss that aspect of those days, it was maybe 15 years ago. how much things can change in that time...
Great video! I totally agree that you can age people based on what they wear. Great Grandpa born in the 20s still always wears his suspenders, even with his shorts. Grandpa born in the 40s wears wider cut jeans with sweaters and other more conservative things. My father born in the 70s wears more athletic/casual clothing when lounging, but still wears collared shirts and all that for work
This is a colaboration that I never expected but I'm supper happy to see. Maybe, next up should be a boomer or a silent generation member describing his own generation's style and what he thinks of youngsters dressing up.
Thank you for sharing this fascinating conversation. It is true that the broadening social mores and infinite options of our time make classic style one option among many--a personal decision or choice. It is also true that the intention to dress well necessarily has a relational and social aspect. The intention to dress well is both a sign of respect for the dignity of those around us, and a sign of self-respect. It is also a way to honor important communal occasions, like weddings, funerals, baptisms, birthdays, and so forth. It is also a way to honor loved ones who have gone before us, who taught us how to dress well.
Another comment, this one on jeans - man that’s so true. My wife is 36, so right in the millennial age range, and wears only skinny jeans. My daughter is 12, hates skinny jeans, only wears baggy jeans.
5:20 that was really beautiful said about how style has become more unisex ! I personally like a masculine look but I also like Woamn who dress more masculine but also than again I look at some men who wear more feminine stuff and use Make up . That sometimes looks awesome as well … with fragrances I think we reached a point where gender truly doesn’t matter anymore Especially in the niche market … wear what you want ! At the end it’s a scent … a scent doesn’t have a gender you like it ? Wear it
If you could've added another generation with Hugo Jacomet this would've been perfect. Also, man I know it was a joke but the idea of going commando in a suit... no, can't even.
As a Xennial ('83 baby), I remember the fashion of late '90s Britain being split between wigga (white guys trying to be West Coast rappers, think Ali G), the semi-skinny fit that came out of the Brit-pop subculture and the loose fit scruffy stuff of the late grunge/early emo style. The one shoe that fit across all these styles were Timberlands, the wiggas didn't lace or tuck them into their jeans, the grungers lace them medium tight and tuck them, the Brit-poppers laced tight and fully tucked them. The Brit-poppers were the only ones that didn't sack their jeans, wiggas said without a belt and grungers had the studded belt but left it loose enough to sag out jeans. Now a lot of my friends wear just basic straightcut jeans, a basic t-shirt and comfy trainers when not at work. Depending on the workplace culture, it's gonna be cotton slacks and an open collar shirt with comfy dress shoes (maybe chinos for someone who's more "fashion forward") - unless there's a workplace uniform!
The way gen z is wearing the most formal while gen x wearing the most casual suit and millennial wearing something in between in this interview is somewhat poetic.
Excellent collaboration of 3 experts in this field. Antonio , I was initially turned off by Unisex Tom Ford perfumes. Just the idea of it. Changed my mind after positive responses. You have to test and experiment.
Interesting discussion guys. My intent was to listen to this conversation in the background while housecleaning, but it engaged me more than expected. By all means, do more of these.
Great, thoughtful discussion that I wish was twice as long. Not going to lie though, I gasped and clutched my chest when gen z had the audacious to claim that new video games are better than old ones 😱
Gen Xer here. I was always taught to dress for the job you want, not the job you have. Notice what the other employees are wearing. Notice what the CEO is wearing..
Where's the debate? There weren't any arguments or something being made. A wonderful discussion that was very fun to listen to, but for sure not a debate
Most men i know do not think about clothes or style or colours or their appearance. They either don't bother themselves or are indeed lazy. The men who do are not common. There is also a big variation between city and country dwellers. However for women and men choice of clothing is usually about fitting in and conformity. Its great to see men taking an interest in their grooming and style.
Very nice talk! Re: video games, I think you missed the mark there. As a millenial (35) who's played all their lives and gone through late 80s/early 90s classics , it's not that video games have become better. Indeed, many of the best, most immersive single-player games are 30 years old. The subjective experience of immersion was just as great back then as it is now - new PS2 games looked absolutely photorealistic to the eyes of a kid used to the previous console, etc. There are two ways in which games have become more detrimental, for some players: online multiplayer games with a sense of community (both good and bad), and casual mobile games designed to addict you because that's how they make profit (mostly bad). But especially online multiplayer games are not a Gen Z thing. We had RuneScape before, and the big turning point (the biggest so far, I would argue) was World of Warcraft (2004). They offered worlds people could inhabit 24/7, find community and purpose. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the lure of massive multiplayer online games has actually decreased a bit lately. A much bigger societal problem are casual mobile games, and they affect not basement-dwelling anti-socialists but regular people. When you get push notifications several times a day to keep up your score in whatever pointless time-killing activity (farming, breaking candies, even learning a language is gamified), it distracts you and causes serious issues with concentration.
Very nice video thanks guys. For a future video it would be nice to get some other generations and nations or cultures aboard. Suggestions: Chaps Guide, Hugo Jacomet
Wow, I had no idea Sven was a Millennial, Gentlemen's Gazette style is very mature and sophisticated. I assumed he was one of my GenXr peers like Antonio.
Lot of people put Millenials from '85, being borned in '84 i wouldn't describe Rapahel as a "Millenial", but I guess it works better for the title and the argument.
@@gentlemansgazette Thank you for your answer Raphael, that's true, but here in Italy we often reconsider that considering the social digital divide between generations. As a result of that, Millenials aren't born with Social Media and we extend them to 1999, with Gen Z starting in 2000. It's interesting to understand when and why a society has to name and divide a generation P.s. Compliments for your work!
Excellent insight as always. I'm in my middle 30's so definitely a millennial although I mostly wear Business casual and don't really concern myself with the opinion of others when it comes to personal style. However I was truly curious about the previous video and was just wondering what your thoughts are on Express? Do you believe all their trousers are franken trousers? If so then perhaps I should stick with the thrift store. My Linen/Cotton slacks are definitely better looking than any sweats or athleisure pants even though they are drawstring.
In today's Sunday Worship Services, the dress shoe is really becoming less common. Trousers and dress pants getting replaced by Chinos also. Even the older generation of church goers are going along with this strange trend. Fortunately, I don't feel pressured to follow others. I like what I like for myself. I like my dress shoes.
There are only two types of suits. Shop suits, and tailor suits. It doesn't matter who designed your shop suit, or what it cost, it's still a shop suit. So, buy cheap suits until you've saved up enough to go to a good tailor and have a real suit made for you. Or two. At work, a shop suit will do. Avoid fashion, never wear a tuxedo in church or when you have to dress properly, a tuxedo is dressing down from a suit.
Fashion is recycled with a touch of modern tech, themes, social influence etc. Wearing a suit and tie will never be outdated regardless of width, length, taper and shape of various garments or accessories. The only thing I don't like about today's fashion is mixing casual wear with formal wear. Smart casual used to lean more towards slightly formal, decent, but relaxed. Now people have taken a pair of joggers and paired it with a 3 piece tailored suit, like a Skysports presenter I saw today. Worse thing is he knew the camera shot would be of his whole body. Oh my days!
Gen X in general has. It's kinda bizarre at this point. Gen Y looks like the parentrified middle child that's got the weight of the world on their shoulders.
