Jake Browne . It would be a surprise to a lot of people to know who made what parts for almost all of the automobile and truck manufacturers. If one was to look at steering boxes from decade upon decade ago they would say on them “Saginaw”, that was a GM company. It all depends who was set up to manufacture in quantity and quality. Many differential assemblies came from Chrysler corporation. It isn’t important for me to list all of the things I knew about being manufactured by various companies but believe me they traded revenue a lot more than anyone would think. It still goes on today. I live in Pennsylvania and the western half of the state has one bakery major one of coarse that bakes raisin bread. That bread is packaged in clear cellophane and all of the other bread companies buy it from them and put it in their plastic sleeve with their name. So you see it just isn’t auto parts it’s virtually everything.
@@yt650 Your bakery example isnt exact though, nowadays most store brands are baked at local bakeries. It has to be that way too, fresh baked breads must hit the stores before 7 in the morning, a near impossible logistics job if theres only 1 bakery for a certain product in a state. What you said only work for food with long shelf life (which doesnt taste good anyway), not day-fresh products like bread. Plus, in-store bakeries are getting more common, here most gasoline stations bake their own pastries. The whole world is turning into Paris, in France its illegal to add conservatives or vitamins to baguettes, and its illegal to sell it as a baguette if it wasnt baked at the site it is sold.
Heh I grew up next to a small dairy farm from when I was 5. I'd not trade it for the world. Good point ! A lot of the stuff that was "old" to me as a kid,will be turning 100 in the next decade and it's still here. anything made now,I digress.
I've often wondered why GM didn't have a successful farm tractor division. But I guess if your only goal is to vex your competition, instead of bring to market a new idea, you are pretty much doomed to failure.
The biggest thing is that Henry Ford was rolling out Fordson Fs as fast as he could and selling them for as cheap as he could. That in turn made even more of a market for them. Other smaller companies either lowered their prices to the point they made no profit and went under, or just didn’t couldn’t sell to begin with. IH started selling Titan 10-20s at half their original price and including a free plow in the sales to keep up. It wasn’t until IH brought out the Farmall in 1924 that Ford was finally knocked down from the top spot.
I saw a 1946 (?) prototype Chevrolet tractor at a show once. They only built three prototypes, but post war car demand proved to be so great that they didn't have the factory capacity to give the go ahead. Don't know if the Sampson fiasco figured into their calculus or not.
I would guess that the Samson division was discontinued by the Bankers during the second brush with bankruptcy because it was not considered a core product.
Regarding Mr. Durant. “So it was that in February 1917 he caused General Motors to buy into a small enterprise called the Sampson Sieve Grip Tractor Company of Stockton California which had an invention for driving a tractor like a horse the Iron horse it later came to be called and to this he later added the Janesville Machine Company of Janesville Wisconsin and the Doylestown Agricultural Company of Doylestown Pennsylvania to form in General Motors the Sampson Tractor Division, a very an unprofitable venture as it turned out”. Page 17 (paper back) my years with General Motors by Alfred P Sloan. I lived in Doylestown Pennsylvania for many years and the Doylestown Agricultural Company was a dealer in farm implements. I don’t know what lured Durant to this company. General motors recognized that many farmers were accustom to using team horses with reins. Sampson tractor used such an arrangement before General Motors bought them. The intent was that farmers accustomed to horse reins could be persuaded to try using this tractor. It was a ride on (seat)tractor that steered with reins just like horses.
Henry Henry . Please go to “ Rare tractors 2014” you will see a “rein steered tractor” but not a Sampson. Begin looking a few minutes into the parade I think maybe around four minutes this one shows up in any event I could be wrong about the time but it will only take a few minutes before you see it. They are strange no doubt about it. Other companies made these as well as Sampson.
Yeesh, no fenders, those back wheels churning right there AT your elbows! (as for cranky, yeah, even the '63 Ford runs good only when it FEELS like it)
@@Dave_911r the first part of this video shows how the trans and diff are on a f1 car. its alott like these tractors ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bChciv9_BuQ.html
No need,people had common sense to avoid ignorant injuries back then, no warning labels either,. Since the 60's people have gotten more and more into the habit of not paying attention and getting hurt doing dumb shit
Brilliant but scary tractor, very narrow and liable to turn turtle! Why, if a tractor is designed to pull, does it always make me feel that the rear tyres are on the wrong way around. It looks as if it is not grabbing the ground but almost like a boat prow is being pushed through the soil but if the tyres were on the other way around it would grab. Just a thought.
Will Dwyer if you think about it, this old girl is almost a hundred years old, and there’s probably next to no parts, and by the 40s almost everyone was doing pretty good....
@Nevermind you don't seem to get what i'm getting at. a news reporter is saying that a gas combustion engine is a simple machine. I'd like to see him try putting an engine together from scratch.
Hi Dennis. Look in the Bible Old Testament book of Judges, chapters 13 through 16. It's the life story of Samson, who was a judge of Israel, and given supernatural strength by God. It's a good read. Thanks. Jim.
I can see why that Samson failed miserably - it's even worse that the original Fordson, and that was truly awful. Ford never made a good tractor before the Diesel Major.
I don't agree with your view of Ford tractors. Compare the Samson or the Fordson to the alternative of the day: teams of horses or huge steam powered tractors. These tractors were a huge improvement over how farm chores were currently being done. Obviously they can't compare to modern tractors, but in their era they really did the job.
The original Fordson F still holds the record all time highest production total numbers of any tractor ever built by long odds, with over 755,000 built. It obsoleted all of those old tractors like Steam tractors, Rumely's, and all that old stuff from the 'big flywheel' era almost overnight, because it was more versatile. All that big flywheel and steam stuff was good for was pulling a breaking plow at about 1-1/2 mph. They were worse than useless for any other type of field work. For a shocker, look up the fuel consumption rate of a Model E Rumely per horsepower hour sometime in the Nebraska tests. It is so bad it's almost unbelievable. That Fordson was a quantum leap forward when it was introduced.
Ford tractors were revolutionary for their time. Henry Ford grew up on a farm and hated doing farm labor. He had the idea that farm work could be made easier and designed the Fordson to be as practical, and affordable as possible. There were no other tractors at that time that even came close to the utility of the Fordson. The 9N, 2N, and 8N tractors were equally as revolutionary for their time as they incorporated the first 3-point hitch. There are thousands of those tractors still working today - 80 years after they were introduced. And you claim, "Ford never made a good tractor before the Diesel Major"? One would have to wonder if you actually know anything about tractors.
@@buckhorncortez I would contend that there is a difference between longevity and usefulness. Was it better than a horse? - yes , in some circumstances. But even by the original standards of the day, they were dire. It could take half a day to start the thing, and then you'd have your legs fried by the heat from the transmission and back end if you were doing heavy work such as ploughing (or plowing as the yanks say) . On top of that, hit a rock when ploughing and it was likely to tip back burying the driver. I'd rather walk behind a horse any day. Do I know anything about tractors? Well my father was in the farm contracting business so I drove just about everything out there, from Massey to Fordson to Ford to IH as soon as I could reach the pedals)). I'm also a mechanical engineer by profession. So I think I can claim to know something about the subject. The first decent usable tractor was designed by Harry Ferguson, with it's 3 point linkage. Ford stole the idea when he copied Ferguson's design, and was subsequently sued by Ferguson. The Ford Nan as we call the 9N isn't a patch on the Ferguson 20 in terms if durability and reliability. To this day, the little grey Fergie is the best tractor ever built in terms if ease of use, usefulness, and longevity, and thousands of them are still working fine 70 years later.
@Randy Magnum - That $33M that GM lost should have put them out of business. Or at least forced them to ask for yet another bailout! That $33M loss today would be about $340,000,000. General Miscarriage strikes again! They are the best......at losing money.
