Love your videos Molly! If you had done single rider Test Track, I don't think the lightning lane would be beneficial. Given that and the very little benefit from Soarin, it really appears there are only two rides that have very long waits where Genie Plus is useful. (Unless, of course, riding single rider is not possible) So if those are taken into account, that makes Remy and Frozen Genie Plus Lightning Lanes $9 each. Still less than the ILLs for each of them when they were ILLs.... However, I think there is a very important math point you are missing. The price of the average admission ticket (which varies GREATLY depending on type of ticket, number of days, season, etc.) turns out to be about $110/person /day without a hopper. Taking this value, that makes 11 Genie + attractions plus 5 non-Genie plus movies and 1 ride for a total of 17 attractions. This makes each attraction's actual cost about $6.50 before Genie Plus. Using your calculations, only 3 rides are worth buying Genie Plus, so each is an extra $6. Adding that to the ticket price means you are paying $12.50 to ride Soarin if you buy Genie plus. Disney math is interesting. ;)
When you mentioned that genie and lightning dont have anything to do with each other; I went back to look at when genie first comes out of the lap. Colour me surprised, because sometimes Genie's powers come out of his fingers like lightning.
I hear on various channels that you should consider taking a break from the parks to go back to your hotel room for downtime. This feels like it would take at least 3 hours out of your day. Perhaps you could do a video about how long it really takes for a time out and how long each trip from the park takes depending on your hotel.
At Disney, 3 hrs is about right, especially if you're using Disney transportation. Also, you can try to create some downtime while staying in the parks. Tom Sawyer Island at MK, has scenic places to just chill out in and play checkers, for example. However, if you are exhausted, I suggest getting some rest and heading back in the evening for dinner or fireworks.
my husband and I went last September, we would rope drop then between noon- 1pm we'd head back to our resort to enjoy the resort, nap and rest for a couple hours then head back out around 5-6pm it was wonderful.
@LoryLovesPink That's a great way to do it. My family will do the same. However, for 1st timers, it's going to be different. The excitement and the desire to get as much from the park as possible can be very stressful. So much so that families will push through to a 10hr day. The reason I mentioned the in park option is that some families are staying off property, and getting to and from the parks can be a HUGE time chunk if they didn't drive their own vehicle. By the time they get back to their hotels, they may not even want to go back out.
So you spend a fortune on park tickets just to go back to your resort for a nap?? Wow… In hundreds of park days over the last 30+ years we’ve never felt the need to waste precious park times.. I’ll sleep when I’m dead😉😉
A French trash can table time is so OOOH LA LA!! I am loving this series because I can relive our trip and also make plans for rides we didn't get to ride for our next trip! Always planning the next one!!!!
This was very helpful, my son (19) and I are going back for a few days during our HHN stay and haven’t been in years. I had no idea how to even attempt Genie+. I can’t thank you enough, I feel like I will now be able to use it to our benefit!
Genie + science is wonderful. I used all of your tips and tricks when I was in the parks in mid June so thank you! Also, Mission Space is the WORST! I literally fainted on the ride and have zero recollection of the ride.
30:05 I thought for sure we'd have a PSA about not climbing over the barriers that Disney has in place. What on earth was she doing? Thanks for another informative and entertaining Genie+ video!
Hi Molly thank you for the Genie tips. I knew how it worked but watching your previous videos I have definitely learned some new tricks. With the grabbing of LL at 7am, I was able to get LL very quickly!!! Thanks for your tips.
I'm binge-watching your videos for my trip in November!! I love all of your tips, tricks, and secrets about the parks. I look forward to your videos all week 😊
Great tips about Genie + , we were there last year in July and went to all four parks. We stayed at the Disney Movie Resort and we got to the parks at 7:00 o’clock every morning and did the rope drops. Well needless to say that I got back home with a stress fracture in my lower right leg. But it was worth it and we are going back next year. GOD BLESS 🙏🏾🥰💖💯💫
It’s the smells for me on Soarin Around the World. You can actually smell the scent of water and the dirt. My granddaughter has a body mist that smells like Soarin I love it.🥰🙏🏾
Magic band are the best! And you can always use the same one, no battery, water proof… but no magic band +!! I don’t need another device that will die on me if I forgot to charge it.
Not only does EPCOT have fewer rides offered by Genie+…. they are also spread out across a very large area resulting in a LOT of extra time & energy walking & backtracking. Something to consider when determining the value of Genie+.
Loving this series! You mentioned the Extended Hours option for Deluxe resort guests. It would be really helpful to see you do MK and/or Epcot Extended Hours to show us the best use of that time.
Great video and love this series. You are really one of the best for learning how to utilize Genie + to its maximum and that is what we did for our trip (family of 5) back at the end of June. Cheers!
The best person by far to explain genie + I was an oldie passholder use to the fast pass system. Genie really confused me. But you just explain it so well!! ❤
A mid day break is a huge help...the group can only go as long as the weakest (not being insulting...just mean the first to crash) we always try to stay at Pop...skyliner back. .nap!!! Return late afternoon....
Ah, Trash can table time......am admitting that my son was horrified that when we were in the Mexico pavilion there were no tables for me to do my tequila flight and did the flight off the trash can......happy memories!!!
I still love to watch because I love EPCOT ... but the answer is not for me, LOL. I'm only there for Livin' with the Land, Spaceship Earth and then the foooooooooood.
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Could Alan do a video about his favorite food options that fill him? I just know my husband eats a lot and usually I hear people say that food will feed them and others and I look at it and think my husband could eat that all on his own and still be hungry 😂
One thing to think about is that kids do like riding things more than once so we used rope drop to get on some heavy hitters and then use genie+ to ride them again. It made them so happy to experience favorites more than once so the cost was worth it. That trick worked really well at Animal Kingdom & Hollywood (Toy Story specifically) too.
😂 I'm equally intrigued and worried that Seth Rogan may be involved with a Figment movie. I do have nostalgia for this ride as I remember the brilliant dark ride that it was in the 80's. Then they turned it into this...😡 and it is such a disappointment even with them adding Figment back. #RIPEPCOTofthe80's 😭 We miss you so!
Molly, we love your Barbie tshirt. We have just arrived in Florida for the first time and have been following your vlogs for over a year and felt ready to rumble here. Got my first Shaky Jamaky on Monday. If we see you we have Real Jammie Dodgers from the UK in our bags for you and Alan and Max. Lisa x
An interesting stat would be cost per hour saved - makes you think about how much your park time is worth. Also, I must be a weirdo, because I’m fine on Mission Space Orange, but I cannot handle either Star Tours or Flight of Passage. Maybe it’s my glasses… 🤓😵💫
I would be super interested to see this series, but as how you would use it if you were visiting on a normal day. No challenge- see what the breakdown is and if you think it’s worth it!
As always, this video is super informative, fun, and helpful! Another stat that I find useful is to break down how much it cost per hour saved. Here, you spent $4.86 for an hour of time. That's kinda hard to thumb your nose at when you consider what you're able to enjoy during that time! I'll be using this video to help justify my planning for a short park day at Epcot the day we arrive in Florida. We're able to walk from Boardwalk (thanks, DVC rental store!) after enjoying the resort for a few hours, and I'll have our three lightning lanes to Remy's, Frozen and Soarin stacked and waiting for us. Maybe they'll even have a new nighttime fireworks show by then (not travelling till Spring). Thanks, Molly and Mammoth Club!
Very helpful, but I wonder if a better metric might be Cost per minute saved as opposed to Cost per worthwhile ride. Doing the math from this video is seems to work out to roughly $0.08 per minute. I want to go back and do the same for the HS video. It'll be interesting once all four videos are up to see if the overall cost per minute is similar (obviously taking into account fluctuations in crowds and purchase cost)
Is there a different price tier for hopper days? Example: Your first park is Animal Kingdom and hop to say Magic Kingdom later in the day. Do you pay the AK price or MK price for genie+?
maybe they will redo Soarin' after they finish the construction in World Celebration as that part of the ride where you return to EPCOT looks really outdated now!
Thank you for admitting that Genie+/Lightening Lane is confusing! I've never used it and am planning our upcoming January trip. I'm trying to follow your strategy, but you lost me. Why book Lightening Lanes for the 3D Film Festival and for Journey Into Imagination when they both had 5 minute (walk-on) wait times? If I can take a few minutes off my phone and get the same results, why would I want to mess around on my phone with rebooking/modifying?
So….am I understanding this? Thisday you booked remi at 7am, then booked test track at 11am for return time of? Then booked frozen at 1:00 pm for what return time? You booked mission after you tapped into test track?
Regarding tapping in at lightning lanes we just used our physical tickets and it was fast except that i had mine and my 2 son's so that took some extra time. By tge 2nd day my toddler was also grabbing the ticket to "help" me tap which complicated thi gs but was so cute.
We just went to Epcot and rode frozen ever after but it was so overrated. We did standby line and the cast member told us for each person they let through standby they have to let 10 other people go so imagine your family is a group of 4 or something common like that it means you have to have 40 people with fast pass go and fast pass for this attraction was sold out just like many other attractions. Such a waste of time unless your family really loves frozen but there are so many better rides then this. Save your time!
What were the park levels like on this day? We e only planned in one park reservation for Epcot for our upcoming trip, can you buy genie plus if you haven’t got a reservation and plan on hopping there later? I assume you have to buy the multi park even if you only want it for the hopper to park?
If you are hopping, you can buy Genie + for the park you are hopping to and you don't need to buy the multipark Genie plus, but you will only be able to book the attractions once their times get past 2 pm. So if you are hopping to Hollywood Studios, for example, you could book Slinky Dog Dash at 7 am since those times go fast. If you happen to get a return time before 2 pm, you can modify it and take the next time, which will be after 2 pm. If you are hopping to magic kingdom, though, just buy the multipark genie plus. The multipark is always the same price as magic kingdom alone.
So… if you buy Disney genie+ for one park and then park hop, do you have to buy Disney genie+ again for the different park? Or is it valid for all day every park?
I love these comparison video but am curious to know how much total time you're in the park. Is it possible to give the times you started & finished in a park? Anxiously waiting another new video!! 😊
I would love to see a video where two people go to the parks on the same day; one uses genie plus and one doesn't. Ideally both individuals wouldn't constantly be zig zagging their way through the different sections of the parks if you understand what I mean. Like they wouldn't go to Tomorrowland, then to fantasyland, then to Frontierland, then back to fantasy land, then to Tomorrowland, then back to fantasyland again.
If you're park hopping for a day and can't enter your second park until 2pm how does genie+ work? 🤔 Can you reserve rides for both parks or just the first park? Is it worth it? Were doing a one day park hopper in September, only wanting to visit Hollywood Studios and Animal Kingdom as we've been before but not sure if genie + would work for our day? 🤔 I miss the old Disney fast pass system 😢
I’m watching this to really try and understand genie and it was all good until…. When Molly goes from figment to soarin to living with the land to Nemo- seemingly just instantly .. I don’t get how the 120 min rule isn’t seeming to be used there? That part is really confusing to me. It looks like she’s just booking those as she’s walking then going right away?? Help!
The 120 minute rule only applies IF you book something out farther than 120 minutes from the time of booking. Otherwise, you can book a second one after you've tapped in at the first.
I love Mammoth Club videos and I appreciate all the info, but these Genie+ videos just make me feel stressed and exhausted. Disney has taken away the ability to plan your day before you ever leave home, allowing you to enjoy the park experience without constantly looking at a phone. I just want to throw in the towel and refuse to engage with this expensive Genie+ nightmare. I don't want to spend my day trying to modify Lightning Lanes, or traipsing all over the park because it's impossible to plan a generalized route to minimize steps and doubling back. Honestly, at this point I'd be happy just going to Disney Springs every day of my trip, sampling all the food, instead of tackling a park. But thanks so much to Molly for giving us the info.❤
Visited EPCOT on 7/22/23…didn’t use Genie+ and still rode EVERY ride in the park. Guardians was virtual queue and did have to book that first thing. The only rides with big waits were Frozen and Remy (both posted 70 min, but probably more like 55-60 min). Everything else wasn’t much of a wait at all. I wouldn’t waste money on Genie+ at EPCOT, but be prepared to buy a LL for Guardians IF you don’t get a VQ or if your party wants to ride a second time.
I saw one of the best Turtle Talks in DCA when this darling little 8 year old boy with big glasses asked Crush about taxes. When Crush asked if he knew what taxes were he went into this very detailed explanation and was 100% correct! Crush and all of us were very impressed. It was too funny. Gotta love what kids come up with.
Just out of curiosity: Is there a specific reason for saying "120 minutes" instead of saying "two hours?" 120 minutes feels like more math to do in the moment. 😵💫
I wish Disney would add multiple places to go on Soaring so you don’t know which one you were going to see. Keep smells the same for easy transition between different films / music/ locations.
Molly - could you do an ep about the Park Hopper Genie + and if the cost of that is worth it hopping from AK to HS for example? Booking at each park to hop seems (on the surface) that the cost is worth it but factor in travel time and what not and maybe it isn't?
When you do the refresh strategy and change to a new time or attraction, does your 120 min rule start over or does it continue counting from the original pick time?
