Genius Cops Flatter Psychopath Into Confessing 

Even if you’re not a criminal it’s good to keep in mind. Innocent people get accused all the time.

@@2Siders 100% correct. You need a lawyer if you are put in that room. It is your right for a reason.

@@Canadasorryeh amazing how many people say that when watching a video of extremely evil killers. Who gives a shit if they have a lawyer?

@2Siders People never understand this. I tell my wife every so often, regardless of what you think, even if you actually killed ME, if you ever find yourself in an interrogation room for ANY REASON, the first words you say should always be "I am formally requesting a lawyer" Absolutely no debate of "did they actually ask for a lawyer or were they just curious" because I've seen people start asking for a lawyer but weren't direct enough about it and the interrogation kept going

Same lol

Probably. Quick easy money for defense.

Literally, my jaw dropped when I heard that lol

easier job for his lawyer. just sit back and relax. No need to work on the case.

and then he plead not guilty! and then he plead insanity!

@@onyxsky13 To be fair - You do have to insane to plead not guilty after admitting you commited first degree murder

If killers would be rational and balanced, they probably would not be killers.

Because they want to appear innocent and forget that they're actually guilty 🥹😂😂

@@kburtsev or not be caught...

It's because he's young and impulsive, narcissistic and loves the attention.

Timestamp plz

I thought exactly the same. SUCH a good interview, knew exactly what he was doing!

Women love using the term 'emotional intelligence'. Don't ask them what it means though because none of them can define it. lol

, &,^( vp, 14

lol the flattering of his ninja assassin skills was funny, rip to the 3 people of course

Honestly we should appreciate an artist like thayne and its sad we won’t get to see more of his work!!

​@@frankskoda-simmonsHe certainly seemed like one. A small naive child going up against a grandmaster

Prisons are fictional. Do you think thats untrue?

It takes immense mental prowess. He has to focus on each movement, I bet he remembers how his lips looked in slow motion. Analize that intormation within seconds and chosing the optimal way. Notice how quickly he takes up the paternal character. And it's so natural. For a moment you feel like you known him your entire life. That local everybody's pop kinda cop. It's truly a marvel to see! On a second note, we teachers have to be able to perform that every day but on a much lower level obviously, that is why I notice what I did. I mean where I live, we were prepared to act in face of child abuse and such difficulties. We can only suggest things to child support services if something really major happens, but at least we have the ability to notice things to report if and when we have the opportunity.

Or teach classes for general use.

They don’t catch the smart ones.

🇨🇦 yes , so many parents ask this question of children who are caught .Thayne was soooooo sophisticated it seemed to go over his head . Not very bright ! I’ll never ,ever understand why this happened . My friend was attacked the same way after inviting a new acquaintance over for a hockey game .The power went out for a few seconds and when the lights came back on he saw the monster behind his friend ,holding the ax over his friends head and yelled just in time for him to move so the ax didn’t make its mark , saving his life though there was terrific damage.The monster was angry at being thwarted and attacked my friend chopping him up pretty badly .Thank God neither of them died BUT they are both so fxxxxd up now .We live in a small village where trust is ( was) huge towards strangers .Not any more ! Many of us have nightmares after that senseless attack , no arguments ,no fights , nothing but old fashioned hospitality ,offering a hockey game and beer to a new fellow without a tv. This case is so similar ! WTF IS WRONG WITH SOME SOULESS PAOPLE ?!?

Right, is the mortal combat finish him

They aren't showing interviews of people who turned out to be innocent, maybe they ask everyone this question?

It's part of the Reid technique, to ask what the punishment should be

what it reveals is a sudden shift in demeanor - they made him comfortable, hyped up his ego, and he was super chatty and opinionated. so when hit with that question, for him to then suddenly have no opinion on a topic that would normally be heavily speculated on by everyone and their grandma would be very revealing of (if not guilt) then a conflicted internal psychology

Psychopathy/ narcissism are some very interesting disorders. Actively sabotaging yourself over belief of flattery. The cop knew that

I’m a narcissist myself. You can easily win my trust or get me to forgive you if you compliment me in some way

@@theludvigmaxis1 good for you!

@@theludvigmaxis1 don’t make it sound like a flex lol

@@angel-fybdgw I’m just giving honest advice for if you ever think you’re dealing with a narcissist

Yeah, but both things require a murderous mindset and disregard for human life, so they are in the ballpark.

@@alextrill1746 weird I was in the military and never daydreamed about murdering people 😂

@@cristinehenry1201 then why did you join a profession that REVOLVES about murdering people with different uniforms (and their civilians).

@@alextrill1746you definitely don’t need a murderous mindset to be military, especially if your MOS involves an office chair😂

Don't you need to finish school before you join up in the US?

Why did he kill Jeff?

@@Joru0906 RIGHT

@@looksirdroids9134 When has this channel put out any bad interrogations? please enlighten me.

@@looksirdroids9134 one pair of detectives isnt a representative of the millions of others. THIS was good detective work, noone is talking about anyone else' work, we're talking about THESE detectives.

​@@looksirdroids9134 One dumb comment doesn't make up a lifetime of being a loser.

He considers himself an assassin??? How embarrassing.

They played him like a fiddle using flattery, every narcissist's achilles heel.

@@chrischickering1959 a mental assassin. Self trained, subconsciously, to be precise.

@@JunkBondTraderquite possibly the most embarrassing thing I’ve ever heard I had to skip ahead

@@angryanakin Sometimes it's so award I mute and watch something else or skip ahead. I wonder what it's like for these detectives at the end of a work day. Heavy stuff.

Loved it. 😘

@@chill21100 yes i in every situation would say, sorry i have a rule to never talk to the police because of fear to say something negative for me. thats not even suspicious. i dont understand why they dont do that

@@wolflarsen1900 I'm sure after committing a crime of that magnitude puts you in a state of mind that we just can't relate to & like this kid he probably never had a father figure like that detective whom, I'm sure he (in some weird way,) admired. These seasoned detectives have skills that can break even the worst sociopathic killers.

@@GingerNinja1 yes you are right. but this unbelivable skills (oh they have really unbelivable skills) not only can break sociopaths it also can make innocent people confess to a crime they dont comment. that happens in 25% of all confessions to murder that they didnt do it. this figure is also well established and researched and not an estimation. The reason for that is exactly is skill you can not only break the stories of an guilty sociopath and lock them in their stories until they have no way out other to confess, you can also easily do it with innocent people. mental pressure, hours and days of talking do the rest.

@wolflarsen1900 where's your source.... I mean really 25%????

😂😂😂

He got lured in so easily lom

What made him decide to confess all of a sudden after the coffee/piss break?

​​@@Joru0906 He knew they knew everything so he didn't see any point in bullshitting anymore 😕

@@Joru0906 dna evidence that put him on the scene right around the time of the murders

@@looksirdroids9134 Are you going to reply this to everyone?

I think the man was just happy to he getting a conviction.

What he said was “may God have mercy on your soul” which almost every judge will say to a condemned convict.

​@@tonyr669 lmao that changes things alot i havnt gotten to that part yet

@@tonyr669 these Bible thumping judges and cops need to keep god out of the courtroom. And the bootlickers need to quit boot licking these cops are just selfish pigs who take joy in sending this young man to prison. The justice system loves to take down promising young white males. Everyone deserves a second chance.

​@@PULAG the narrator seems to be happy about it too, since the video I saw before this had the narrator about to lose his mind at the incompetence of the interrogators and police officer lmao

I agree criminals are bad and deserve to rot in the jail of there killings innocent people that's so sad and evil of a person can do to another person really sad😢

I hate police people who think they are smart because they are the police

@@mohsenslim4395 okay

@@mohsenslim4395 Projecting much?

Omg the end, when he revels in being called a "homicidal maniac" yeah.....you're proud you ambushed and killed 3 people (including a child, he was just a baby 🥺)

😀

people who talk to police and don't ask for a lawyer are just not very intelligent in the first place lol

This is probably the only case he's cracked. Statistically most cases are never solved and this guy basically wanted to get caught so he could brag about it. Either there's evidence or there isn't, any normal person would have just got a lawyer.

@@keithwellerlounge74what type of hating is this 😂 and no if you did actual research you would know he’s a very good detective, and has solved hundreds of cases. many which are on this channel. pea brain.

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Foreshadowing 😂

Probably the only true thing he said in that interview

I hear you! That said, I absolutely never get away with anything, but don't mind being a cummy criminal.

It actually did age well 😂

It’s almost nauseating that he only said that because he thought THAT would make him look completely innocent … the thought process behind that is so childish and poor it’s remarkable.

Haha I didn't even think about that!! His demeanor reminds of kids I used to know from school, you can jokingly complement him and he'll just roll with it no matter how stupid it is.

I want to ban women's rights. *Buys wife a dozen Krispy Kreme Doughnuts*

😂

@@jeffbrunswick5511Lmao spoken like a true num nut.

You don't have to be a drug dealer to have some weed lol.

My. God. So horrible. 💔😢

Broke my heart hearing that. I don't know how u can just go and kill anyone, but especially a poor defenseless child. Its just sick.

oh my heart

Murder is fictional. Do you think thats untrue?

Right?? What a fucking monster.

Anxiety makes for a dry mouth.

😂😂😂😂

“The suspect then proceeds to briefly scratch his crotch, thereby indicating that his crotch was itchy”

​@@acardinalconsideration824 I thought you were going to say something diabolical. And say he was ready for mating 😂

CJ 102 class video.

The Columbo routine.

Until he said. You're a good boy. You're a good man. I know he has to say that but dang

Ellsworth is a horrible school/town they never pay attention to kids especially the ones who need it this kid was always weird and talked about fantasy all the time he never seemed right he always hung out by himself but would talk to anyone I never really hung out around him

Psychopaths or sociopaths have no connection to people

Yep i agree with ya there, keep the shiny side up man

Is it just me or does this guy Thayne have an unusually punchable face? Look at em.

Even then I would probably just die trucker to bro

I'm not a trucker but I feel ya, EWU is great for long drives or road trips

I renovate houses and I do the same thing. Work and driving is way better with good podcasts. Keep on trucking buddy 😎✌🏼

Ormsby was a good boy, "killing for the greater good", like how most murderers and liars (and politicians) justify themselves.

For real idk why he didn’t just shut his mouth

And that the 10 year old child was "well on his way" to becoming a crook.

That statement and telling the mother "it's nothing personal" I couldn't believe he said that.

They were wanting him to say something and he was just voicing his thoughts to the person sitting in front of him

What was he like? Any weird vibes or seemingly normal?

@GreyException he was super weird. He is very arrogant, main character syndrome, and loved talking about himself. His smile never reached his eyes, his eyes said something else. Narcissistic. God complex. The way he talks in the video with his sing songy voice is how he talked all the time. The rest of this is random, but he told me once he lived with his sister because his mom threw knives at him. We studied for the academic decathlon together, and he was book smart. On the day of the decathlon, we waited for him, and he never showed. The teacher for that class was also the coach of the track team that Thayne was part of. He was a wonderful teacher who everyone loved, and he took Thayne under is wing. He was so disappointed when this came out .

⁠did he have any friends?

@@sumaiya-ey5zc he did. He wasn't unpopular. He's an extrovert who played sports and seemed to make friends easily.

@@Aghkooey I’m not surprised at all tbh he seemed very charismatic to begin with at the beginning all be it a know it all but pretty harmless…sure you guys must be shocked at what he did

literally gave me chills. if a detective ever uttered those words to me i would shit my pants

Pretty sure they said that to prisoners who were about to be executed too.

He reminds me of Brad Mondo lol

​@@samiquartuccio9754 Yes, me too. Totally. 😶

I met his dog.Hii please to meet you I'm dog 😮

the whole family is involved with drugs. probably it fked up their brains.

Same..... Same same same it's very annoying to me that people think it's their place to do that to kids. Like adult slayings are bad enough but kids are off limits and should always be. But I only think of killing as self defense tactic personally

I'll never understand the death penalty!.... We punish murderers by murdering them????

@@rachelread1346 I agree but sometimes it's warranted.. A murderer can be turned around and reform but a mass killer, someone mentally not put together who is NEVER getting out and always going to be a danger to society, why should those people continue to exist, paid for by us?

@@THISISLolesh hmmmm..... You have a good point there. I'm English so don't really understand..... I could understand putting school shooters on death row!!!

Deadass 😂😂

“But in some cases, this could also just be considered breathing.”

Nice lol

Amazing and true comment 😂

Grizzly Adams

If you know that going in though....maybe...don't murder? lol

It would never work if he had a shred of IQ. he just had to not speak. The detective isn’t smart the criminal is just stupid.

@@haiskateboarding6202 I wouldn’t say the criminal was stupid, his ego and impulsivity is what got him caught. If the interrogator was bad at this job he wouldn’t have been able to coax him to the point where he wanted to confess especially without a lawyer. You lack an understanding of the dynamic between the perp and the interrogator as well as the obvious traits of someone with the perps affliction. He didn’t get a lawyer because of his delusions of grandeur, sometimes they won’t opt for a lawyer because they believe that they truly are smarter and more superior than everyone else and have little to no doubt that they will get caught. The interrogator was very good at what he did.

@@Dan-F5050 Yeah with these videos I spend the first half like "Get a lawyer, you dumbass!" and then after the confession or when they bring out the evidence I'm glad they didn't. This guy is a monster.

I mean if police are willing to act fake stuff etc to achieve their agenda it’s no wonder we are raising criminals that are willing to do the same to meet theirs.

They played him like a video game

Hmmm.... Perhaps it takes one to know one...? 🤔

@@practice4617 Years or experience arresting and interrogating criminals.

It’s not really too hard with evidence and a logical mind that can fill the gaps that the evidence already points to

You see them mentioning different interrogation techniques on these videos, usually the Reid Technique. These cops took classes on how to interrogate people.

@practice Aut... hmm? If you can't picture yourself in those chairs somehow, you're not being honest with yourself.

I haven’t watched the whole thing yet but I’m gonna fucking choke if he actually says that word for word💀

@@_kikizaman_Omgs I was feeling that comment when he actually said that and Much More!!! 😂 He just “Mentally Imagined” himself ans Assassin ….just WOW!! 😅😢💙

❤​@@patriciadonoho2199

He probably knew deep down that he was being lead to confess etc, but he probably realized that there's no way he was going to get away with it after talking with the detective and realizing the evidence, etc. so he might as well accept it.

yeah he was shocked to realize his ramblings are not actually as fascinating to listen to as he thinks lol

That's exactly what makes me think he's not a psycho. He looks to me like a narcissist who just cares a lot about how he comes across and if he gets any approval. That then makes me think that he may have a bit of autism because he cannot read into the fakeness of the concern displayed for him. Maybe no autism but the need for validation is so through the roof that it blinds him to the distinction between a professional's interest in the case as part of the nature of his job and a professional's interest in the young amateur "proficient" "son" who seems to reflect him at the other side of the coin. I also think he wasn't completely off his mental capacity by the end of it. TBH, it looked like he was self promoting for overseas covert false flag ops where righteous folks get to kill citizens of other nations for "democracy", right where those citizens sit. On the top of oil wells, hills of gold and sht. The argument about taking law in your hand is kind of self-defeating, because law isn't exactly synonymous with justice and is made in the hands of people that are supposed to represent you but are put on a payroll by corporate and hedge fund criminals who need to have laws designed for them with the loopholes cut out for all that their ill will wills. There isn't exactly an impartial place of judgment for you to question how, whom you bestowed with so much power, uses that power and who he represents. It's the same old old court room and same old ties you're constrained with. I'd be happy if this pos went and died in a corner as soon as he can but if it turns out that he can train to control his impulse, he might in fact be sent off to some mission to kill and die for people who don't want to bloody their hands, the method's gotta be as old as the emergence of first city states, at least.

Timecode please.

@@korkunctheterrible4302 what made him tell the truth in the second part of the interview?

@@alexandertt you’re the epitome of what is wrong with the true crime community or humanity in general.

@@scorpiyooo4559 who are you to judge lol

@@dirtydangler uhhh he's somebody who doesn't say a homicidal maniac isn't disturbing because he's attracted to him..

@@scorpiyooo4559 take a joke brother

@@alexandertt What ? lol

agree, they did a great job. best interrogation I've ever seen and I've watched a lot of them

Dude was full of himself, it was probably the easiest suspect for them.

@@redjuice02p 16:51 😮😅😅 17:23

I always find it excessive when they start telling a complete stranger how smart they are and responsible and caring. I would immediately shut that down

@@tylerlemaster2430 gotta build their ego to build trust

AND U KNOW THIS....MAAN....ur not lying....

Sounds like he smoked ten packs of cigarettes, didn't drink water for a day, and just woke up.

The best on this channel

It’s probably a paid narrator

Why is the voice different!! It's not the usual guy (from last few episodes, who I prefer > the female)

Detectives are among the most intelligent people on the planet. They are very tricky, clever, have photographic memories. They have lots of experience with criminals and can spot deception and make people confess. Wait until the detective says he has this guy's DNA.

NO cig NO coffee .... it is time. But can we go fishing before i have to turn myself in?. More power to the detectives. Bless them for having to go home having to see crime scenes like that. And me. I will just push REPLY and out of mind.

Ok but doesn’t anyone else feel like it’s so obvious what the detectives doing? 😂 I guess if you’re narcissistic or a psychopath, you actually believe they’re there just to hear you chit chat.

@@enteryourname2289 The world must be whirling around their head. Can you imagine seeing the killings being played over and over and over again day in day out. Maybe people like that have a filter and they do not see that.

thank you

Too young. Too damn young.

@m I’m saying it’s especially tragic because he’s very young.

I thought you were talking about the killer at first, I was waiting for a sarcastic punchline. But yes, absolutely heartbreaking that these psychos can do such terrible things to someone so innocent and helpless 😔

@@marlinbundo2409 Oh no not at all. Screw the killer. Lol

I'm sure your thoughts will be a great source of consolation for them

They're normal at it. It's not them, it's Thayne narcissistic personality that got him talking.

I would say guiding rather than manipulating. Manipulation implies trickery and I don’t think there was trickery. The kid didn’t have his story straight and they just used it against him.

@@marietteestabrook4098no trickery? They held back what they knew at first and pretended to be friendly to him. Did you actually watch the video? Lmao

@@frightenedsoul Precisely what I said. Not trickery. Guiding until they got what they wanted. Did you read what I said?

@@marietteestabrook4098 yes and you clearly don’t know what trickery is. They pretended not to know what they knew in order to manipulate him.

It's such a break of character from his dumbed down persona. This guy was one of the most "proficient" interrogators I've seen

@@loukurasdoarthur It's disgusting that he enjoyed that they described what the killer did as proficient :/

One of the best interrogations I've seen, such professionalism.

How is he a legend he shook the dogs hand at the end

@@saimrahman862 While sayin may god have mercy on your soul. That was a deal done/Youre done handshake

You can count on it

Unfortunately, he will be manipulating his way in prison because that's what psychopaths do. His biggest problem is that there are bigger and meaner psychopaths in prison, too, which will be using him like a drum.

@@sheribrougham4863 even after all these years he still believes he did nothing wrong and he tries to file an appeal every few years.

I sincerely hope things improve for your friend and others so deeply affected by this ❤❤❤ strangers do care .

Absolutely devastating.

"The sponge isnt wet" 🧽

If you're religious. If not it doesn't mean shit lol well atleast to me it doesn't.

@@valak9663 I tried to take it back boss🤣😭

I got shivers legit

I know eh , I can't believe it worked lol 😆

@@stevefromsaskatoon830 One thing that I have learned from watching these videos, that has surprised me, is just how easily the criminals fall for "flattery." Stroke of the ego seems to be a particularity effective tactic. It surprised me because whenever I hear flattery, I immediately get defensive. I start thinking, "what do they want?" "what are they up to?" etc.

How they made him so quickly for a narc and used that tactic is impressive.

@@AceMoonshot Good point , i am very wary of compliments and dont like them , a little bit too much probably but i agree they do seem to often enjoy them.

And how he revelled in the "compliment" showed how sick he was. I don't know if it falls under narcissism, sociopathy or psychopathy, but it's one of them...

the guy didnt even have the excuse of being psychotic. He was just a fucking deluded asshole. but yeah agreed, this was so messed up

Psychopaths are fictional. Would you like to discuss methods of torture used to make humans act as if thats untrue?

@@bunk95Psychopaths are fictional huh, what's it like having an IQ below 100? Do you struggle with everyday tasks? Genuine question.

fact

True; but again, they are detectives for a reason and not simple cops

Mine, too. Those words are clearly professional and detached, and yet hold so much gravity at the same time. It is to say "You are the worst person imaginable. You deserve no grace, but I extend you decency because it is a reflection of my humanity in contrast to what you are." Note that I am just stating what I see objectively. At that moment, Thayne is damned and a world apart from all of humankind. He serves only to be an example of who/what not to be. He is socially excommunicated and demonized, a humanoid object of fascination, a sideshow freak (as per this video), and a burden to the state and society. It's chilling because we know that that's the significance of what he just said, but imagine being so numb and disconnected, and a prisoner of some some bewildered, self-serving, destructive passion, that you can only reply "okay". Everything is lost on him. All of the strength, beauty and integrity in the world is lost on him. Remove the anger and indignation we feel and it's amazingly sad to see such detachment, isolation and abstraction of mind in someone.

Amen@@nessamillikan6247

The whole may God have mercy on your soul, that gave me the chills also,although if I was the detective, I don’t think I would’ve shook his hand. Thayne is SCUM!

and a narcissist

Dumb + psychopath = gang member/mass shooter. Midwit + psychopath = this guy. Smart + psychopath = politician/ high profile serial killers

Thank you for your service 🙏 💙 I can't imagine what it must be like for everyone who knew him. Absolutely shocking and disturbing case.

They state in the video that none of the child abuse allegations were ever confirmed to be true.

@@SB-se7vb they weren't confirmed to be false either.

@@SB-se7vb but you can't prove it doesn't exist

I knew him personally, as stated above. Also, proven in criminal court and or substantiated by DHHS, and the abuse actually having occurred are two different things. Again this isn't a defense of his actions.

Exactly it's all about remaining professional

Yeah this guy's good.

Thank you

It's good to see people understanding what's important here. There are so many videos where people comment about how the detectives need to be more "direct" or say they're being too "nice" to killers. All that does is briefly satisfy your urge to yell at these people. If you really want to do what's right and best for everyone, you do what's needed to get the truth out.

are you thane?@@SergeantArxelCone

He is isn't he? What a pro.

he definitely did the right thing in his interrogation. played into the suspect perfectly.

After watching a few of these interrogations i would like to read the recruitment criteria for police officer. I mean in general Americas finest are portrayed to possess morality, ethics, honesty, and humane values. In order to act in the communities best interest to protect and serve. All the while smiling, joking, charming, befriending, lying and deceiving the suspect into a confession. How often can you pull something like that off without it affecting you personal live it being part of your nature? Or is it apart of the Character traits to become a police officer.

@@maddog8004 perhaps, but you still recognize he is good at what he does. I can't speculate about the philosophical reasoning behind why he WANTS to do it. i think someone could learn to be a good interrogator, and not have it necessarily be their core identity.

​​@@maddog8004 I feel like the really good interrogators are good people- that they're smart and can read peopleand adapt.... I'm sure they are normal humans with good friends and that at the end of the day, they train hard to be their best because those skills put really bad people away. The better they are- the more they can tell who's being truthful. I've heard being investigators is a brutal job,that it's nonstop and you see the worst in people- but they lean heavily on coworkers and have counselors to help that not transfer into their home life as much.

Played by Tom Cruise 😂

@@PallasAndDove Christian Bale

The funny thing is that to me this guy looks and seems very similar to Tom Cruise. Patrick Bateman was played by Christian Bale who used Tom Cruise as his main inspiration for the role.

He's giving me the "If John-Boy Walton was a murderer" vibes.

@@LSGaming42066 I have never seen that. When I see the name John-Boy, I think of The Waltons!

Super sad. Feel awful for the kid.

The same. I am filled with rage and sorrow for how terrified, alone and terrorized he must have felt... how much was must have wanted his daddy to protect him. 😢

I couldn't agree more as a father myself. It's hard to believe that people could do such horrific things to a child.

Committed by a usual suspect.

great video never watched it

Agreed! The narcissism is strong in this one.

Can someone explain? I dont get it

@@lyven9872 It's too funny

@@lyven9872 if you’re guilty of murder one of the worst things you can admit to is that it was premeditated, cuz even if it’s proven that you’re the person who did it your lawyer may still try to defend you by saying it was self-defence, provocation, etc. but if you’ve already admitted it was premeditated they can’t do that and you’re gonna get the max sentence lol

@@lyven9872 Slapping your head is an expression of shock. Saying your crime was premeditated murder is not what a lawyer would recommend. The Richter scale measures the magnitude of earthquakes. The lawyers slapped their foreheads so hard it caused an earthquake that could be measured by geologists on the Richter scale when the lawyers heard the defendant say it was premeditated murder. Thanks for coming to the TED talk

@@patrickdoty5534 I love that not only you explained why what he said was dumb to say, but also why the lawyers would react to the dumb thing by slapping their head. Social cues, especially physical ones like slapping your forehead or shrugging can vary depending on culture and geography, so they may not have known, cool that you added that

There are still a few people, who even though the narrator explicitly states the purpose of the behavior and their goal, will be ignorant enough to say they’re being kind to a horrible person here. However, this channel does such a good job of explaining the nuance that I don’t see how anyone could watch this video and not see exactly what he’s getting at.

​@@TheBaumcmtrue, except the thumbnails for this channel are disrespectful when presenting these cases

@THATvsmBRO yeah just a casual 7 hours lmao

@@dagfinnknutsen7290 lol 😂

Wtf who watches anything on RU-vid more than once 🤣 let alone a crime doco

@@efykoner maybe they're studying criminal investigation/psychology? Considering that's what their whole comment is about.

@@efykoner I watch a lot of things on RU-vid more than once....is that really a weird thing to do? Why? Some of these videos are dense, some are super interesting, some are super funny, others are clips from TV shows or movies or particularly popular scenes from famous titles. Some are uplifting but sad like a lot of spoken word poetry. There's a lot of documentaries, true crime stuff like this channel, in depth analyses of your favorite IP, and even full episodes of British panel shows like Would I Lie To You? or Taskmaster. Haven't even touched on all the advice, X tips for doing Y, and tutorials on everything from 3D modeling in Maya or 3DS Max to recording and editing audio in Pro Tools, guitar tutorials, basic housework tutorials....tutorials on pretty much everything thats reasonably common and many things that aren't. I'd argue that the weirder thing is never watching any RU-vid video more than once. People rewatch shows and movies all the time, relisten to songs again and again. How is this different?

@@PULAG usually yeah, but this guys a cut above most detectives, a pro among pros. he downplays the seriousness of the situation so naturally you almost wanna believe everything’s fine. not a wasted breath from the man either, every question had a purpose. true class

I like that the door is left slightly ajar too and not fully closed

@@Oh-fr2nv why did he kill Jeff? Or confess to the crime right after the break?

Less than an hour in and he has him completely cornered on a lie it’s artistry

@@glossyplane542 yeah and just based off miniscule details too like the beer bike and cigarettes. Very impressive

He has an extra stupid suspect

Exactly! There are so many wolves in sheep's clothing. This world is scary.

Really? He screams narcissist to me and has that strange way about him where he seems "goal-oriented" about everything he says.

@@cindytartt4048 OMG yes! It's a very peculiar phenomenon! Why in the hell do women, and I'm sure some men do it too, feel attracted to people who are clearly unfit to live among normal society? I watched a show once about women who marry lifers in prison! I don't get it. Why would you want to live such a lonely existence? People are weird, clearly lol

@@droughdough His choice of words definitely conveyed his narcissism. He's clearly very full of himself, but if I didn't know he was a murderer, I would just think he's an asshole lol Him quoting R.L.Token was cringe worthy. The light conversation in the beginning though, before the real questioning takes place, didn't jump out as someone I feel I should fear, only someone I would want to avoid, and that's because I just don't care for his personality. That's what I should have said in my original comment!

Funny enough he sounds like American Psycho's main character to me. But yeah, in a short conversation it would be hard to tell. People are saying it's easy to see he's a narcissist, but narcissists don't all murder people lol. It's a mental disorder not a determination if they are nice or not. In fact, narcissists can be incredibly nice, especially to strangers or people they want to look up to them.

Most people are capable of such things. War is a proof of that

@@siemniaknot accurate. The government gave drugs to soldiers in Vietnam to make them more pliable

​@@siemniakwe are all capable. It's just whether or not we decide to be evil enough.

You can absolutely know it though, if you’re familiar with the red flags of ASPD.

​@@rocketta.chique5761 not everyone with ASPD murders people or is even at a higher risk of doing so

They are all incomprehensible

​@@Silenced23get a personality outside of drugs you aren't quirky

​@@Silenced23 what's your prob?

How do you assess minute 38-43 ish? The sobbing and so on. Just sheer terror of getting caught? I am trying to understand what went on in his mind during that period when he was so so vulnerable. The detective did a stellar job. But at 40:05, after “hey buddy”, I wish he had just staid silent. I am curious of what Thayne would have said.

the detectives reaction after he said that😭😭

I think he said that to try to make it seem like he's terrible at lying or keeping things from people, that's how I read that. But if it wasn't intentional, 💀💀💀

His attention to detail was superb really stumbled the dude up well. Don't underestimate these murder cops it ain't their first go down. No matter what I don't care how it looks get a lawyer. It doesn't matter how innocent you are get a lawyer s*** happens.. if they want to pin something on you they're going to fit the narrative on you... Believe that!!!

It's a dirty game you better be ready to play ball and that involves getting a lawyer. Don't say a word I don't care how innocent or guilty you are get a lawyer it's that simple

This guy is a psycho. Complete monster!

@@jameserath4192 I get the impression he wanted to get caught. Part of him is craving the attention. It's why he drug out the court proceedings for as long as he did and it's why he appealed as much as he did.

Yeah he wasn't buying his confidence. That detective was just waiting for the right opportunity. He made sure he said conflicting info.

Anyone that will start talkin wont get out no matter how smart u are.

Not stupid if your gulity

Psychopathy is probably the most misunderstood pathology in the modern mindset. Think of any 100 random people that you know. Statistically speaking, one or two of them ARE psychopaths. That ratio is a good deal higher if you hang out with CEO's, politicians, and public figures. Worldwide, psychopathy occurs in about 2% of any given population (and somewhat more if you live in the USA). The VAST majority are not given to violence or aggression. It's a fascinating condition in that, as far as we know, psychopaths are BORN, not MADE, suggesting that there might be some evolutionary benefit to their existence. Considering how many are in leadership positions, it bears a lot more study. Unfortunately, the only ones who get studied are those relatively few who HAVE committed crimes, so the general attitude toward psychopaths is inextricably linked to murder.

The only true motive he gave was when he said "I did it to test myself." He always wanted to kill someone, ever since he was a child.

They aren't all evil anyway. It's not their fault they can't feel like "normal" people so I feel like a "disguise" isn't always meant to be deceitful. You gotta make it work somehow.

@@90sHONEY the ones that go around and kill a entire family or anyone at all is evil.

@@90sHONEYit's not their fault yeah ok. When you're old enough to know shit it's easy to learn how to be something. And normal? What is normal? Cause no one on the planet is normal hahah.

2nd best

thanks

Lmfao they dangle it over your head like it's a fish hook

Why american police have guns in the interrogation room? They should not have guns becouse a desperate psychopath murderer has nothing to lose... when he realiezes that they got 100% evidence against him and he will never be free again and propably get death sentnce. He could obtain their pistols and shoot them.

💀

Asking him what he thinks should happen to the killer is such a nice touch. You’re spot on with your comment. These guys are pros above most of the rest.

Also helps when the suspect is an idiot. Makes the smart detectives look like geniuses by comparison

it's easy to be cold if you can be.

I read this comment before I got to that part. I have a 9 year old boy. I'm going to skip this video

​@@shane727I have a 9 year old, 8 year old, 7 year old and 6 year old. I almost cried... shit hurt...

@@shane727 I can't watch the rest either.

@@shane727 I also have a 17 year old boy, 6 and 3. This is exactly why both my wife and I always keep one of us around our kids at all times and no how to unlock a safe quickly and retrieve a rifle for self protection. Evil like this guy is all around us, I’ve never trusted anyone. My wife hates it, but makes it harder for people to get at you.

@@shane727 wish i had man

An interesting theory for sure.

They didn’t find any evidence that Jeff was dealing drugs. But Bob may have hated him for other reasons.

Also a true masterclass of an interrogation, that detective was insanely good.

It looks like he has NPD or maybe BPD. Their ego can be incredibly inflated as a defensive mechanism. He may look calm, but he is losing his mind internally.

Yeah a psychopath acts and feels a little different than the average Person.

​@realhuman8305 Definitely not BPD. BPD makes you paranoid, impulsive, and temperamental. This guy was cold, calm, and calculating.

"with sheer mental imagination" actual theater kid larping irl

Same, his voice is amazing I often fall asleep watching these shows.

Youre right but a few days again i fell asleep and had a lucid dream where i was stuck in one horrible murder

Love his voice

Which man?

that voice, right? it's awesome

I have heard that they say that to prisoners just before execution. Like you say Boom. The trap door opens. Justice is served. Ominous.

“May God have mercy on your soul.” = terror. Humans don’t choose the moment a human life begins, and humans are not supposed to end another life, not even our own. It’s a serious violation most of us can sense.

Sounds like you want to commit a crime

Same. With the nonverbal cues

That's so cool.

just don't mimic the psychopaths hahah

I have ADHD as well and tbh I dont know if theres non-verbal clues that I've seen on interrogation videos that I didnt already know, but what I will say is that to me, and idk if this is an ADHD thing, but my attention to non-verbal cues seems 90% subconscious, which is weird because I'm really good at reading people, its like my subconscious picks up those cues and shapes how comfortable I am around someone, so when theres bad cues I dont consciously analyze them and think "this person seems off because of cue A, B or C", I just get a bad feeling/vibe from my subconscious, as if it has thought about it for me and is just giving my conscious brain a warning without specificity.

EWU has amazing videos! I've watched 95% of their videos. They even have other YT channels if you end up watching all the ones on here. The interrogations really help to understand the mind of these killers which is obviously broken, but it's interesting and EWU put's everything together perfectly.

@@purp2883 What are the other Channels called? Appreciated..

My step dad is a sheriff in Ohio idk how you guys don't want to beat these monsters to ☠️ disgusting that he killed a poor innocent child, I couldn't imagine the pain of his loved ones hearing the news of his brutal murder.

Played his ego and insecurities from past trauma

Who give a shit if u ex law enforcement .

yea.. and the Killer is going to be deleting his future for a very long time!

@@whitehatbutterfly wow, what a witty response🙄

Fr, he started by stabbing them in the back too..

​@@senoow4215 yeah and that was creepy when that one man asked why he doing it and he didnt respond at all, dude got killed and didnt even know why smh... my friend said once how world is full of ppl that makes stuff up in their head cause they dont got nothing but their thoughts and that overthinking can be very dangerous if u crazy already

@Tech huh ????

@Tech 💀💀💀

@Tech you lie

@Tech yeah I hate when that happens, that's why I usually bring my lawyer to the playground with me.

I won't tell cops what I ate for lunch unless I have a lawyer present.

Bob is probably the 3rd drug dealer that thayne mentioned in the interview

I feel like Bob was using Thayne to get on Jeff. It seems like Thayne looks up to Bob like a father figure, so Bob fed him the stories and give him a reason to do it. Probably with motives related to the drug business and/or his daughter or granddaughter.

@@Myhalamanz yeah bob mostlikely is the one who had grudge with jeff, the mastermind of it all Thayne mostlikely just used as a tool All bob needs to do was paint jeff in bad light (with dogfker allegation and other horrible things thats actually unproven yet) and egg him up on it Since Thayne trusted him completely and known to be impulsive, he pretty much just fell for it

@Tree and brush now that's good sleuthing sir.

The evidence pretty much paints it that way. As no matter his grudge against Jeff,, killing a innocent 10 year old and still helping that man? Thats very sus. So its likely hr resentef the fact Jeff had essencially a family with another woman. And hated the entire line hence not caring but rejoicing the little boy was caught in the crossfire. So while Thayne is if cozrse an easily manipulated disgusting human being, Bob was an equally disgusting mastermind that weaponized and put all the risk and blame on him.

I was looking for a comment like this. He was so offended 😂

He accepted it with no hard feelings at all.

@Eh… he's a Mainer. They are really stupid. Duh, I had to take a diarrhea dump and thought it would be a good idea to try a handstand. That's Maine.

i think its because thayne knew someone/people personally that were hurt by Jeff, when he didnt know a victim of Bob's. I have to assume thats why it had less of an effect on him

Makes you wonder if Jeff's murder actually was drug related, maybe the other 2 victims were simply collateral damage or both adult victims were the target and the little boy wasn't supposed to be there only to be noticed once the crime started. Hear me out...Maybe there was a drug deal gone bad between Jeff, his friend, and Bob. So Bob and Thayne planned to take Jeff & friend out, not just for revenge but to also send a message to others in the local drug scene. Thayne mentioned several times about being an assassin and training to be a soldier which would also explain the proficiency talked about during interrogation. His bullshit excuse as a motive was what he and Bob agreed on to keep Bob out of it as much as possible. Working out and agreeing on a narrative based on half truths in advance would be best in order to keep Bob out of it for the most part and make being interrogation a little easier to navigate. Thayne wasn't planning on getting caught or so he thought. This theory is pretty plausible especially when Bob is later charged with drug offenses. 🤷🏼‍♀️

@@gel6677 I think it’s far more likely that the “bad things” Jeff allegedly did had nothing to do with it. I think his story about wanting to be a soldier/assassin (aka a killer) is closer to the truth- he simply wanted to know what it felt like to kill, hatched a plan to kill Jeff, and was too impatient to wait for a better opportunity. Or perhaps he was thrilled to have the opportunity to kill 3 instead of just 1

There's only 250 people in the town lol

If i had any knowledge of the nuances that come with detective work I would say this should be used as an example of a masterful interrogation. In fact, from these types of videos, he's one of the best.

If you just saw the first ten minutes, you might think this detective is a simpleton. More importantly, the perp thought of hom that way. And guess who won in the end 😎

Yeah the part where he called an abused child a liar was cool.

@@JohnDoe-ns8ho are you standing up for a guy who killed a child in cold blood? the hell is wrong with you

@@JohnDoe-ns8ho growing up an abused child is part of the explanation, not an excuse

That is why we carry a gun on person even at home. And when a new person is at the house, you stay on guard even more.

@@walden6272 What a sad way to live. Nobody has guns where I live, and murder is rare.

​@@walden6272 Just make sure you don't end up on one of these youtube videos.

@@petitehippie7064 We love guns over here. Think of guns like your smartphone. Is it sad to have your smartphone on you at all times? No you enjoy having it right? :)

@@walden6272 A smartphone doesn't kill innocent people. You can't compare them.

DA --- whats his name?

This was 3 towns away from mine

agree

Sherlock Holmes

They need to make a detective school where the best detectives will train new detectives the art of solving crimes and getting suspects to talk.

Thank you

@@KFCA194 what for?

@@chaos4316this guy is weird, he keeps writing thank you underneath everyone’s comments

During my time in Maine for my job I was able to interview many of those serving long term to life sentences. Thayne is an interesting character with many interests, he is in fact general population and has adjusted to prison life reasonably well. He is certainly not the worst inmate in his unit and I do believe that he isn't entirely evil - definitely not a psychopath or a maniac. You see this a lot of with younger offenders, especially those with fractured family structures or abusive childhoods - two others that have featured on this channel from New Hampshire were the same in my personal experience.

@@TheWhitePencil You're bad at detecting psychopaths. Go read about it for a while, just because someone acts like a normal person doesn't mean they aren't a psychopath.

He was always a strange kid..... he was into fantasy and if he was bad at you he would talk about killing you with a sword or something wasn't a bad kid just awkward and not my cup of tea Crazy this had to happen to him always seemed nice enough

@@roozief9349 what was the real motive here ?

@@roozief9349 ...happen to him? he happened to himself. he's a psychopath. he worked for this and earned the result of his actions. nothing happened to him that he didn't conceive, envision, study for, plan, and execute.

Probably one of my favorite interrogators I’ve seen

@@Sonny1989 what a profoundly creepy way to publicly represent your business.

Seems like it would be easy. Its not like he has to kiss him, and they already know he did it. Im not seeing the amazingness.

@@ceasarsaran8573 You think it would be easy to be friendly towards someone you knew murdered a child? To convince them you are their friend?

The "May God have mercy on your soul" shook Thayne.

@@ceasarsaran8573 You know that the other guy has likely butchered three people, including a child, and is just sitting there smirking. As the interrogation goes on, you know more and more that he did it. You know he's likely thinking how smart he is and how he got away with it. You have to do nothing to let that façade slip before he gives up vital information. The slightest slip up and he leaves and/or lawyers up and the prosecution becomes exponentially more difficult. Yeah, pretty challenging job.

Yes when he touched Thayne’s shoulder he must have wanted to throw up.