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==What is the reason that you would use Gentoo?==
After many months, the much requested Gentoo review is here. This time, I attempt to explain what Gentoo is, and who it is for...as it is a very tricky beast to limit in one box.
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@kenba8176 3 года назад

the quality is amazing for a 2013 video

@JTKroll12 3 года назад

audio is fuked

@vozercozer 3 года назад

Dude I didn’t even know it was a 2013 video until I saw the desktop and was like “is that trinity” and checked the description and saw that this video was from 8 years ago.

@allenlark 3 года назад

This in maybe my favorite RU-vid comment. Ever.

@roembol 4 года назад

Holy shit this looks so good for a video from 7 years ago

@willmcdade4836 4 года назад

When you watch a RU-vid video that seems oddly familiar, then you remember you watched it when it came out. But you're watching it 7 years later...

@Papa-ur3ju 4 года назад

damm

@deepfuchsia7204 3 года назад

WTF

@willmcdade4836 3 года назад

@@lilauraraka8951 Thank you for responding to my 7 months old comment from 14 hours later

@peacemekka 3 года назад

Damn.

@TripleCZ 3 года назад

hello

@Thriving_in_Exile 9 лет назад

1:15 -ish, "...don't recommend using Gentoo unless you've been accustomed to the Linux ecosystem for at least a year." I gotta offer an alternative viewpoint: I tried Gentoo after about three months of distro-hopping between the usual suspects, and although it was *COMPLETELY* agonizing, I learned more about Linux than I ever could have on Ubuntu, Fedora, what have you. TL;DR: Feel free to dive in if you, a) Don't mind the pain, and more importantly, b) Want to learn something.

@imzesok 9 лет назад

the only thing I ever learned from torturing myself with gentoo's install process was how to use chroot, lmao. I'm sad to say I never was able to get a GUI installed. complained about not being able to find xorg/xserver in the repository. I probably would have been happy to have even gotten lightdm, with a window manager but yeah, I gave up on it after 4 days of tinkering and not finding any useful information.

@WilliamOsborneKappa 5 лет назад

If you want a more minimal one, personally I recommend Arch. Arch makes you do all the partitioning, etc yourself, which will teach you a lot. It won't, however, be quite as insane to set up and configure as gentoo.

@joshuajosephson7965 5 лет назад

Was installing Slackware within a few months of buying my first ever computer. There were no distros to 'hop' from back then. :)

@mattr2238 3 года назад

I think that straight Debian is the best balance for most people. I always recommend straight Debian as a distro to use without a DE.

@EdLrandom 5 лет назад

omg, kde used to be so ugly, hi from 2019

@Terra101 4 года назад

Hi from 2020, it fucking sucks here, stay where you are.

@32gigs96 4 года назад

Arne fr, that shit is slow af

@mobarakjama5570 4 года назад

Yh but back then Windows 8 was a thing, so yh keep that in mind.

@EdLrandom 4 года назад

@@Terra101 no it's not. This whole gnome vs kde vs whatever the fuck thing is so stupid. One doesn't exclude the other like it would with windows vs mac or IOS vs android.

@Terra101 4 года назад

Im talking about 2020 not KDE

@bikutoso 6 лет назад

I'm a bit mixed on Gentoo Linux. It meets all requirements I want in a desktop system and I enjoy using Gentoo Linux; it also has a lot of annoying points, mainly the compiling, USE flags, and configuring kernel. The compiling just takes time and resources. I can't find any information on how to best manage USE flags. And configuring the kernel was the reason I stopped using Gentoo the last time I used it. A kernel update had removed options that I needed to get the graphics card to work, and the wiki had not updated that information until my system was so irreparable that I had delete everything.

@IaMaWeSoMe7478 8 лет назад

My Reactions in the Video: 0:00-7:30 Really good and Informative 7:31-7:32 WTF 7:33-7:39 AH FUK MY EARZ 7:40-7:42 Now I can't hear shit 7:43-7:50 Now i really cant hear shit 7:50-Scared the shit out of me and WTF Editiing?? 8:00-14:02 Great, Informative tutorial... XDDDDDDDDD

@snipy3685 8 лет назад

you are the best xD

@niggacode7813 8 лет назад

just pulled a gentoo docker image, i think it's easier to start this way.

@noidexe 11 лет назад

Gentoo users compile everything from source so their programs use less cpu cycles that can be put to better use running a compiler so they can compile everything from source so their programs use less cpu cycles that can be put to better use running a compiler so they can compile everything from source so their programs use less cpu cycles that can be put to better use running a compiler so they can compile everything from source so their programs use less cpu cycles that can be put to better...

@HeadsetGuy 10 лет назад

Oh man, that rendering error made me laugh.

@peacemekka 3 года назад

It's system level stuff okay!

@HeadsetGuy 3 года назад

@@peacemekka *STUFF THAT YOU DON'T GENERALLY SEE ON THE SURFACE*

@Markus9705 11 лет назад

"Gentoo/Funtoo don't tend to break by themselves. Someone has to break it" The same is true for Debian. And at least for me, Debian is more stable and solid.

@dia9n0st1c 10 лет назад

I appreciated the rick roll. they are so rare now.

@keyboardmannow 5 лет назад

...Yeah

@thenotoriousnephi4308 4 года назад

They’re popular again now

@dia9n0st1c 4 года назад

@@thenotoriousnephi4308 bruh I dont even remember watching this video lol

@thenotoriousnephi4308 4 года назад

SpaghettiBowl_ I don’t think a video about gentoo linux can be that memorable after all these years ya know

@whichisuprise7346 4 года назад

Even rarer now sadly.

@secondsettweezer9884 5 лет назад

"bloated dependencies" "-gtk -gnome" absolutely based.

@jimanterra703 4 года назад

this guy rick rolled everyone back at 2013

@smhsophie 3 года назад

thats been a meme for like 15 years.

@StormOS_Dev_Channel 9 лет назад

I'm a Gentoo user and can completely agree that it is complicated. I am NOT good at it in any shape or form, i dont know how to troubleshoot, or do anything beyond install it and setup the DE. all i do with Gentoo is use it as my daily OS and play games. That's it. I'm not a Linux elite or someone who does development. I just play around, so for me Gentoo is just as complicated as anybody else. That said, I love Gentoo and there is not much any other distro I would rather use.

@Darkenedbyshadows 9 лет назад

Have you tried Arch, and if so would you mind telling your exp with it and how it compares with G? I'm thinking of getting a virtual box on my arch system and having fun coding Gentoo. then when i feel ready, switch over from arch all the way to gentoo. greetings from finland.

@imzesok 9 лет назад

Gentoo is a completely roll your own system, unlike Arch(I'm a little biased here), which has the decency to at least provide you with complete config files, that only require you to comment out what you don't need(provided you install it "the Arch Way" that is). it's essentially Linux from scratch. the Handbook for Gentoo sadly is so far out of date that it's really not even useful anymore, so if you do decide to install it you have to take bits and pieces from 10 different guides just to get a working install(no guide for getting a GUI that I've seen though). It would be really nice if someone would update the handbook to reflect all the changes from the 2004 release to the current. Arch on the other hand though, has such well written documentation(even a complete newbie guide you can pretty much copy and paste), that it's pretty hard to go wrong. I've run Arch for 2 months, and nothing has ever broken on me, I'm pretty happy with it... well I was. just upgraded my video card from a geforce GT 210 to an AMD r7 260x, so I need to reinstall. like gentoo, though there's no gui package manager. but to run updates and install things are pretty easy. "sudo pacman -Syu" updates your system, "sudo pacman -S " installs the package and it's dependencies, if they're in the repository. chances are though if it's not in the official repository, it'll be in the AUR(community based repo). the nice thing is... no waiting several hours to compile your desktop environment. I've tried and failed epically to get a full system install for gentoo + a GUi 4 times now. Arch I got done in the first try... may have taken 6 hours to do it, but I had a completely working system and MATE desktop(was in virtualbox the first time). Some kind soul actually made a really easy way to install Arch, called Evolution linux, and it completely automates everything. there used to be a project that did the same for gentoo but they've since abandoned it in favor of making their own spin of Fedora I'm sad to say.

@StormOS_Dev_Channel 9 лет назад

***** well personally i cant help but feel that Gentoo is too much to handle now..I have had nothing but issues due to their recent changes, their support community is nothing but jerks and i can't be asked to put up with anything gentoo anymore..

@StormOS_Dev_Channel 9 лет назад

well i added you on here and messaged you..

@techos7510 9 лет назад

Ben Fitzpatrick ubnutu

@FunnelOfSteam 7 лет назад

Clockwork video! I run my company entirely on Gentoo. It is the best development environment so far.

@not_herobrine3752 3 года назад

is your company still on gentoo?

@msrsooraj 4 года назад

An Arch based workstation was a bad idea.. even the tiniest of the things that we take for granted got in the way and my productivity suffered. Went back to Ubuntu in a week. 🙂

@certs743 3 года назад

Pretty impressive video for when it was made. I remember trying Gentoo in the early 2000s shortly after it came out. I was using FreeBSD as a desktop and I read about how alot of the inspiration for Gentoo came from FreeBSD. I figured it couldn't be much worse thank FreeBSD 5.8. Boy was I wrong. On a nearly 20 year old potato computer with a net connection that barely qualified as broadband it was a trainwreck. Never really messed with it again.

@ozrencupac 2 года назад

If gentoo is so good then why isnt there genthree yet

@HoreaChristian 9 лет назад

I don't get how Gentoo is supposed to be complicated. If you think configuring your system via a GUI is "easier" than text files, you're suffering from a very bad case of software-stockholm-syndrome. I've ported my Gentoo system over 3 different machines over more than 8 years. simply copy the old config files and you have the same system. No need to click around through sub-menus and half a dozen different applications each time you get a new machine. No tedious new system versions, and if you don't have enough power to compile everything (read chromium) thjere's binary builds for that, which install as fast (actually faster) than on ubuntu ;)

@slimezone 9 лет назад

get outta here wit yo pretentious steve holt looking ass

@slamislife74 9 лет назад

You know, compiling large applications with my modest laptop was my bigest concern regarding Gentoo.

@madjestic 9 лет назад

+sillypineapple 91 There are pre-compiled binary packages of the most popular software available (office and browser apps for example), if you don't want to compile them.

@madjestic 9 лет назад

Maybe because compiling stuff from source in every other distro may be convoluted, as it is not something you are normally supposed to do, it is assumed that gentoo people like BDSM. I can assure you they do not, at least not necessarily. Compiling sources in Gentoo is not more complicated than doing 'apt-get install foobar' in ubuntu. The rest of the process is handled automatic and requires no user participation. Gentoo's package management system, portage, is awesome. That's where this distro shines.

@HoreaChristian 7 лет назад

In principle I agree. "nothing is more easy and simple to *use* than a well designed GUI ". Yes. But I don't really want to "use" my system's configuration manager. I want to optimize and automate it. Basically my point is that a *good* GUI can simplify manual engagement - but we're moving away from that, so let's roll with the best tools for automatization. Scripting, CLI, Gentoo ;)

@XerxesLins 10 лет назад

Currently I use the distribution Funtoo (Gentoo improved version, made by the same creator of Gentoo). I'm not very experienced user, but I understand that many dislike the way of the Gentoo (or Funtoo). These distributions are aimed at enthusiasts who like lots of flexibility and have fun solving package conflicts. Not for novice users who just want to turn the system on, and ready to use.

@shater1164 6 лет назад

True indeed

@YoungBud03 8 лет назад

Debian for the win :)

@filth315 4 года назад

@JJMza 10 лет назад

Here's something I would never understand. It seems to me the people who (actually) comment..."DO YOU EVEN USE LINUX?" After mentioning "it takes this long to install chromium" (indeed the fact it's a tedious task) then saying i'll stick to Mint makes me wonder about that huge gap in distro choice. Otherwise it's all anime avatars for the new users? what's the appeal that made you guys watch this?

@uzefulvideos3440 6 лет назад

I switched from Mint to Manjaro. Was worth it.

@ryan.1990 5 лет назад

Fuck anime avatars

@not_herobrine3752 3 года назад

i know that this is a video from an ancient era when i am unironically rickrolled by the intro

@OnajTamo 10 лет назад

I personally first want to try to use Debian unstable without it breaking,then I will go on to more complicated things :)

@secondsettweezer9884 5 лет назад

Debian unstable is just newer packages.

@SilverWuffer 10 лет назад

Gentoo seems to be a nice option for people that want a very customized Linux system with full control on it. Just like Arch, but more built specifically for their hardware. But personally, I'd rather stick to a distribution like Ubuntu or Fedora, where I don't have to install and set up my system only with configuration files and terminal commands. I like things to be as easy and stable as possible, but still very advanced under the hood - that is also why I love my Fedora installation, and I am not thinking about replacing it for now. What can I say, I like tinkering with Linux and trying out new software or technologies. Now don't get me wrong here please, I respect the principle of D.I.Y. distros like Arch or Gentoo and I am not trying to offend any Arch/Gentoo user here. I like their approach, I like that they are both rolling releases, I like that you can customize the heck out of both distros. It's just that I don't think I'm ready for something that advanced like Gentoo. I had an Arch install a while ago - but like I said, I still like pre-configured (configured as in it has a desktop, a browser, Samba and all other important stuff for me OOTB) distros much better. :-)

@adrianlowenberg 9 лет назад

***** Well, I don't want to get into the systemd vs openrc conflict, but Arch supports OpenRC too (if you like a more UNIX, though slower start :P)! Btw, there are Arch derivatives too, so do not compare install difficulties, in both cases they are as complicated as you want them to be.

@EliteTester 9 лет назад

***** or Funtoo

@sapphonie 9 лет назад

***** Your username makes no sense.

@sapphonie 9 лет назад

Why would I want to ssh into the computer that I'm already using

@sixdroid 5 лет назад

arch BTW

@quebono100 11 лет назад

I worked with Gentoo long time ago. And i must say its like a tamagotchi. After Gentoo i switched to Mint and then to Ubuntu. My Linux world is worser than ever xD

@aedradaedra5054 9 лет назад

Gentoo is good, but I'm in love with Arch and I'll be sticking here for a very, very, very long while...

@attilaszollosi5165 9 лет назад

Aedra Daedra Just try Gentoo in dual boot, i was an hardcore arch fan, and i installed Gentoo, and i say now, Gentoo is better than arch for me. (not for everything, compiles in an old computer takes too much time, but i have a new computer.

@aedradaedra5054 9 лет назад

That's a good idea, I'll try it in a VM first as I've never liked dual booting hehe.

@attilaszollosi5165 9 лет назад

You know, but i like the vconsole feeling without X and reading web pages from my mobile, but VM is excellent for this.

@sixdroid 6 лет назад

@@camthesaxman3387 install Ubuntu

@ValPaliy 6 лет назад

Yeah, Arch rules. I am sticking with it too.

@bierce21 11 лет назад

7:40 what just happened

@dreyethcordaine52 9 лет назад

After configuring portage chrooting and everything. Can Gentoo even emerge the damn packages you need to boot your initial install. Without fucking up and crashing halfway through the compile process on atleast half of them, or sitting with infinite compile (quad core MAKEOPTS="-j5" ) time on a single *.c file? In my experience with it, it cannot. Ether the gentoo boot image is fucked up with bugs that have been there for years, or funtoo which was a little bit better bjorked a couple simple compiles on necesary addons you need to add to the base system before you can even boot. Stuff broken in the install guide that they know hasn't worked for awhile but is still present in the guide without work arounds written in the guide. Even after configuring the install to the point were you need to add a few ebuilds to the system of essential software you're going to need to boot, all the builds ended up with compile failed. In the experience I've had with Gentoo and Funtoo its all breakage shit.

@steven1671 7 лет назад

That moment when you compile packages for 10 hours only for it to crash on some random error. Fixing the error and restarting the build results in another, completely unrelated error. Then the process continues, and pretty soon Gentoo updates take impossibly long. As soon as you fix the error, a new update is released along with new build errors.

@steven1671 7 лет назад

Art3mis Was compiling on a laptop, and also I was using Gentoo unstable. I switched to Arch because configuring and compiling pkgs was a waste of my own time. Not to mention that Gentoo stable packages are old. A 1 year old version of gcc??? No thanks. I was distro hopping on my laptop because I didn't want to touch my desktop, and my laptop was a piece of crap. I was trying to find a cool niche distro for my slow garbage laptop.

@donpsykonerd6868 11 лет назад

Gentoo : Trye open source ! Loving it

@ShaneFisher 11 лет назад

I like that way that you presented Gentoo and the skill that it takes to deal with it. I would love to see an in-depth review of Ubuntu Studio 13.10. I just installed it and so far it is exactly what I need for high quality video production. Keep up the great work and peace out.

@gabegillespie92 8 лет назад

Nano on Gentoo? really?

@cmorrow132 8 лет назад

Nano is way easier to me than vi - vi isn't difficult, it's just tedious.

@mario_9431 5 лет назад

@@cmorrow132 wtf vi is /literally/ the easiest editor ever

@popespalace823 5 лет назад

@@cmorrow132 Exactly

@user-ux2kk5vp7m 4 года назад

Taminaru _ vi is the weirdest editor ever

@masakiishii3333 7 лет назад

Would you please tell me the music which plays firstly 0:16 - 0:20?

@Arun-yb1gp 2 месяца назад

Never gonna give you up - Rick Astley

@Nerdamania 11 лет назад

Good to see a video from you again! Gentoo Untill now was very unknown for me :) Maybe in the future.. Now very happy with my Manjaro though :)

@stevegremory3849 3 года назад

is this 7 years old? wtf.

@FireicerCooper 11 лет назад

Dude suriously. I have used allot of distros over the past 18 years. I used to sware by readhat until they stoped it at version 9. Gentoo is the only rock solid reliable everyday distro that respects 101% of the users flexability to compile software any which way from sunday. What users have missed out on over the past 20 years on windows is full control of their computers. Gentoo allows code to be moded, then re-ebuilded, checksumed, placed in the tree and installed in seconds

@vapourmile 3 года назад

@Infinitely Galactic, Q&A: Isn't the main problem with Gentoo that you must be, and must want to be, an expert Linux admin to want to install and use it? There is so much emphasis on customising and optimising it that it almost becomes all there is to Gentoo. It's like a "have the best custom Linux" contest. Devs like me just want to get the OS, install a tool chain and get going. I use OpenSUSE. I don't want to spend 60% of my life tweaking the OS. I want a 10:90 mix of tweaking and working.

@staninjapan07 3 года назад

OK, I got to 6.30 and decided you were right when you said something like "leave it well alone if you don't have a year's experience playing with the arse-end of Linux", and then I went off to look at something about Linux but more at my low level. Thanks anyway, though, this may be revisited when I am a "Linux grown up."

@abdulmogeeb 11 лет назад

I mostly liked the way things get complicated and advanced in gentoo , but what if I need an application as soon as possible ! that's why I won't use gentoo it least for my daily use, but it could be installed on my PC any time in the future . thank you

@bobsobol 11 лет назад

Nice explain of Gentoo. This was the first Linux that got me back into that scene since quitting Slackware for WinNT. I love Gentoo for that customisation. My problem with the Windows world is the built in crap that I don't want, but as Linux distros have added all that too, why bother? The build time is still a problem at home, and in my "down time". Can you review Frugalware, which is my happy medium. I think it deserves some love. ^_^

@FireicerCooper 11 лет назад

No it is not lol. GNU/Linux software is distributed as source code. Binaries are just the outcome of a compiler. GNU and Linux software are all distributed in source code not binaries. Gentoo respects that with a automated ./configure, make && make install all in one command called emerge. it is that simple dont complicate it. GNU and Linux kernel are all source code free software. You dont buy it so compiling it yourself is but a small price to pay to get it for free.

@FireicerCooper 11 лет назад

The problem with that is when a person wants it to do something extra that does not have a button to click. Systems/hardware are so different that you can not make a button for every single situation that a user would want. This means that a GUI needs to be able to deliver hundred of thousand different options. You fancy programing all that? This is why M$ windows forces its users to only a few standard options. GNU/Linux is the OS that can do anything you want it to.

@GothAlice 11 лет назад

On an 8-core machine (with 4GB of RAM) and a piddly 8GB of HDD space it takes about 20 minutes to get a working, fully up-to-date, bootable system, and maybe an additional 40 minutes to get a GUI on top of that. This clean install cold boots to shell (not GUI) in about 4 seconds, which includes all system-level daemons I use such as MongoDB, Nginx, and Postgresql. :D

@JosephDickson 11 лет назад

Great review. personally I love gentoo but always fail the kernel compile and end up going with the generic kernel. Maybe I'll give it another shot on my tiny 3rd hard drive. I really like the sense of acomplishment I've had in past installations.

@seanpoynter2469 9 лет назад

In my opinion, portage and source-based package management are the best reasons to use Gentoo. All other package managers pale in comparison.

@steven1671 7 лет назад

So package upgrades that take longer than it takes for the fucking upstream sources to be updated is a good thing? How do you keep your computer fresh when it actually takes longer to build the sources than it takes for the software devs to write it?

@ronanjm 5 лет назад

Steven do you even use it? Every arch baby says shit like this to defend their shitty systems when they realize Gentoo obliterates it as well as the epeen they grew after following simple instructions on the wiki

@jarisipilainen3875 7 лет назад

haha,but you can build that same kernel for every linux and you got axactly same. its same fucking kernel. isnt it?

@Alistarwormwood 9 лет назад

"need to be familiar with the linux ecosystem for over a year"? fuck, this OS has prerequisites? I'm a complete noob and this shit was already looking intimidating

@meismehaha 8 лет назад

+Alistar Wormwood Don't start with Gentoo, if you want to get into Linux, but still want a challenge, try Arch. If you want to get familiar with the OS (no challenge), try Ubuntu or something based on it, or Fedora perhaps.

@georgeunknown2833 10 лет назад

Hey, guys, I want the wallpaper on 2:02 ! Who does know where can I get it? Please, give me the link!

@wilbertvanbakel 10 лет назад

Included in kde-wallpapers

@Markus9705 11 лет назад

One question: How much faster does the system really get? I mean, is it a huge difference compared to e.g. Ubuntu? I have googled it and I don't find anything that the difference in speed is very small. Have you run some tests? Would be interesting to see the results! And how about Arch? Arch is fucking fast is you ask me - programs load even before I click them! How is a Gentoo system compared to an Arch system? Is compiling from source so good as Gentoo fans says?

@wolfwood7219 11 лет назад

i started using linux sabayon 7 years ago and really i didn't even know too much when i started out sabayon is really intuitive and has excellent support i was unaware that i was on a more complicated system if are a little apprehensive about gentoo suggest you start with sabayon

@MrLol333 11 лет назад

So compiling started, time to go to bed ....

@tehandroidmaster 10 лет назад

I've wanted to install Gentoo for quite a while . . . but I also don't want to waste a month of my life waiting for my portage tree to sync (hyperbole, but still). I'll gladly stick with Arch. TYVM

@OMFGandFTW 10 лет назад

eix-sync && layman -S takes 2 minutes for me. Also, OpenRC > systemd, period. >>>/out/

@tehandroidmaster 10 лет назад

Alright, I'll give you that one. systemd fucking sucks. Also, the Gentoo community has some of the coolest wallpapers and catchphrases. emerge world

@straylight08 8 лет назад

I don't see the point spending hours/days/weeks fucking around compiling shit on a personal computer. I imagine it might be a lot more useful for setting up embedded systems though, where you'd want everything carefully optimised.

@njack1994 7 лет назад

straylight08 what happens when you hit that inevitable wall to optimization when in an existing ecosystem.

@jonathanrealman8415 6 лет назад

>KDE on a fucking minimalist distro I cry every time

@One_Whiff 6 лет назад

It makes the most out of the kernel 😂 merry Christmas and Christmas box 😂😁

@TalesOfWar 11 лет назад

A platform is only as good as the things it supports, and the things that support it. If you're running a bunch of machines that require Exchange for example then running BSD isn't really a good match for you is it no matter how much you can "hack" it? You'll need to be running some flavour of Windows Server even if it's within a VM in order to then run Exchange which you rely on.

@robertstanfield1075 11 лет назад

I can't really talk with confidence as I've never successfully installed Gentoo before, but in my opinion Arch Linux has a better balance between speed awarded and the slope of the learning curve. If I really needed a program to utilize every optimization of my CPU, why not just use Arch Linux's ABS system for that particular program? I guess I'm just not seeing why I should learn and use Gentoo over Arch... but I am interested in just trying Gentoo for fun lol

@Rukirisan 11 лет назад

Gentoo is freaking easy to maintain once installed, personally I find Crux better as it's minimal, I just don't like the fact gentoo dev's patch everything... keep it upstream. I've been using Linux since late '97 or the beginning of '98, I'm use to source and I much prefer upstream as fixes are much quicker than distribution specific maintainers. I do prefer portage over.. um the basic tools crux has but like the setup of crux packages.

@AlexanderNecheff 11 лет назад

There is no doubt that Arch is very customizable, but it simply doesn't have the infrastructure to be as customizable as Gentoo in a sane way. USE flags make compiling a dream and build options persist through the next update. The whole way Porage tree's work makes it very easy to break away and create your own branch for some special project you have. Forcing specific versions of a package is also very easy to do.

@kulturedyobbo 11 лет назад

Installed Gentoo successfully once on about my 5th attempt over a six month period. In the end I abandoned it as I found no real difference in speed and apps sometimes took ridiculous amounts of time to compile like 7 hours for Chromium on my Acrer Aspire 5745G laptop. I thought when I update I am going to have to go through this labourious compile over and over again. In the end I settled on Sabayon which is a Gentoo derivative and has great performance minus all the tedious configuration.

@calyesil 11 лет назад

people always complaning how optimised macs but not their pc. well gentoo is a chance to do that by yourself :P from the start you decide whatever you want to put or not, which setting you want or not. ofc it takes sometime for people like me but when you finish that you have really solid os. currently i dont use it on my desktop but when i decide to move on i will surely use gentoo once more

@kprajat 11 лет назад

I believe USE changes and Changes to USE Flags are entirely different changes !!!.. Please correct me if I am wrong.. I believe when you tried installing Chromium.. All you needed to change was /etc/portage/package.use and add the Packages that it pointed to... Please pardon my pointing out things.. Regards Rajat P

@Rukirisan 11 лет назад

Here's a tip, keep your make.conf minimal, you're going to be using USE="flags here" emerge package_name a lot so remember what you use and edit your package.use file instead of flooding your make.conf as you MAY just want that option added for a specific package not globally uh hem, directx for vlc for example.

@jakobw135 4 года назад

Well done, mate! On my system, I have not yet found a distro with Linux drivers for my Realtek HD audio (part of mt Asus X99 USB 3.1 MB), nor for my Corsair M95 Gaming Mouse or my K95 RGB keyboard. Would Gentoo solve these issues and others? :-)

@Rukirisan 11 лет назад

I just noticed you don't have -march or -mtune set, any specific reasons? I personally use -march=corei7 and -mtuine=native also added -msse3 to my CFLAGS. You should also have ALSA_CARDS, INPUT_DEVICES, AND VIDEO_CARDS set as well. LINGUAS="en_US" is nice but I don't compile locale specific.

@ActionParsnip 10 лет назад

If you want a small distribution you can use ubuntu minimal and install openbox with the --no-recommends option. Ive used Gentoo in the past and the gains these days are barely noticable. When bandwidth was limited, yes downloading source is less network intensive than binaries but many Linux distros are modular and package based.

@computernerd8157 7 лет назад

I don't get how most of the Linux community believes in noobs distros. From my point of view systems like Ubuntu are more advanced then stuff like like Gentoo and Slack, unless you have a very specific reason to want to use these distros, why bother? In the end, Linux is Linux, they all use the same programs, functions the same just different commands under the hood. I believe the only thing that Linux needs to be perfect is a unified package management system. Maybe they can keep their systems but all migrate to a universal package system that all Distros can take from.

@Ubernoob85 11 лет назад

Gentoo seriously isn't difficult. It was the first Linux distro I installed (my previous install was FreeBSD) when I was twelve on an old crappy Gateway Celeron. If you can read (and have patience) then you'll be fine.

@ashr636 11 лет назад

Gentoo is straightforward as fuck. Been using it since they went live, still have a box thats never been rebuilt since 2003 and it's up to date with all the latest and greatest today. Love portage. Best thing evar

@Ismael-iw4tm 3 года назад

I thanks

@sanitydotorg 11 лет назад

Compiling from source isn't that big of a deal any more. The first time I installed gentoo in 2001, it took almost 2 weeks to build KDE. Now emerge -e runs in less than six hours on my laptop.

@Linuxgamer94 11 лет назад

you forgot that there is not iso's for gentoo as you have to compile the isos for each disro you origianly use then after you make it you have to install it.

@johnanth 11 лет назад

No, ig does Android and stuff too... basically, I don't think he'd mind doing BSD, but I'm pretty sure most of the audience couldn't care less about BSD. :)

@leknyzma 9 лет назад

get to know gentoo, and than you'll start to appreciate windws,macOS and other and other ez mode OSes.

@ledzeppeman 11 лет назад

Why would you want your gentoo to be just like someone else's? The idea behind it is to tailor it to your needs. Maybe you should try another distro.

@zenfloater8146 11 лет назад

A very fair perception Blaine. And you could also say that comparing Slackware to Gentoo would be exactly the same as comparing NASCAR to Formula One..

@Rukirisan 11 лет назад

Yes, sounds like a compile error or could just be a capture error? What screencasting program did you use? Kdenlive should have capturing added.

@natruf4106 11 лет назад

you can do almost everything on linux that you can do on windows. Only thing i cant find is autocad type stuff. Get over it, and come to linux.

@mattr2238 3 года назад

I don't know man... I run OS2 as my daily driver and TempleOS as my secondary, and I've never felt the need to customize either of them.

@hydrox24 11 лет назад

Chromium example is a bit of a poor one. It's got amongst the highest compile times of any program on the whole of linux.

@Techboy1973 11 лет назад

thank you this video was VERY helpfull. i may decide to play with gentoo sometime in the future maybe as a second active computer but thats about it

@dsuryas 8 лет назад

man we're missing your reviews

@layol692k7 11 лет назад

i would love this system but being a person that is pressed for time sad to say i could not use it

@qCJLbggG4IWAY9nTH6o 2 года назад

11:00 chromium? 5 to 10 minutes? in 2013?! o_o

@ChristianParpartDev 11 лет назад

Admitted, Portage is based upon the ideas of BSD ports, but everything else you say is FUD.

@ClusterOfBlueRabbits 11 лет назад

What of it? At one point he was going to look at OS X which II believe is BSD under the hood?

@Kersich86 4 года назад

i will not show how to install gentoo because i needed a week to do it😊

@MaartenBlij 11 лет назад

That was infinitely to complicated for my brain.. Very interesting, but not for me..

@matejchys 4 года назад

I installed it on vm few times

@bmhyakiri 11 лет назад

Is this channel Linux only? (serious)

@Linuxgamer94 11 лет назад

BSD time yet? Maby start with the diffrences between Pure Darwin and Darwin.

@bierce21 11 лет назад

it shouldnt take to long to re render id imagine so yea id go ahead and do it.

@DARTHZANRUIT 11 лет назад

It's about time. I just installed this 2 days ago, only took about 4 hours.

@PavelSkollSuk 6 лет назад

Is there some Gentoo-based distro which does not update so often?

@serge5046 6 лет назад

Hello Pavel ! Calculate or Sabayon. Sabayon updates once a week, sometimes once over two weeks. Calculate updates twice a week but it is closer to a real Gentoo. If you wait a while there is also Redcore which has LXQt as DE. Best regards, Serge

@PavelSkollSuk 6 лет назад

Thanks Serge. I'll look at them.

@NikolaPetkanski31337 10 лет назад

If used in production environment, distcc will prove useful. Also, there is binary package support, so one can compile the software on one computer and distribute it to a whole bunch of servers, thus saving time.

@ShekharHandigol 8 лет назад

A revisited video...

@TheRealHelvetica 11 лет назад

What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

@lunedefroid8817 8 лет назад

Using su instead of an adding a user to sudoers :c

@Garbaz 8 лет назад

For demonstration purposes I'd guess. Tying sudo every time and typing in the PW would be quite time consuming / require more, in my opinion quite annoying, jump cuts.

@HigherPlanes 11 лет назад

I'm sure Arch and Gentoo nearly equal in terms of boot speeds and performance, but ultimately it will boil down to the software installed on your system. I have two Arch systems which I use, one uses awesome as a wm and boots into the userspace in 8.79s, and the other uses XFCE and boots into userspace in 14.5s. Other than that, they're identical.