Great interview George I'm an independent biker and a former Marine like you just from a younger generation. Was born in 1969 so your old enough to be my dad. Much respect to you and sharing all your insights it's absolutely fascinating look forward to part 2
Just audiobooked George’s book, ‘Exile on Front Street’. Great book, and also read Jay Dobyns book, ‘No Angel’. Never would have imagined I’d see this! Thanks for this!
Glad to see you on your own RU-vid channel. You were always a great story teller with a memory like an elephant. Glad that you're putting them on video for us all to see and hear for posterity.
Sorry George, but i have no respect for Jay Dobbyns, or the organization who he used to work for and wound up stabbing Jay in the back. I don't hate Jay Dobbyns, but i don't respect him, no more than i don't respect Anthony "Tony" Tait. I have no respect for law enforcement that targets outlaw bikers. If of a member of each was hanging on a cliff and i could only save one, I'm sorry, but I'm saving the Biker, not atf. I can't stand that organization.
I read jay dobbyns book years ago. What's funny is all the charges were dropped. I think 1or 2 stuck. All these hot shot govt. Marshall's got destroyed and wasted taxpayers $$
@j.d.865 that's why and one of the biggest reasons why not many people like them. When it comes court time, every person is pissed because we the people have to pay for it. The bonuses that these undercover douchebags get from convictions The money comes from us!
@MeLoNHeAd00 he was a cocky arrogant blue and yellow. Who couldn't nab George Christie whom I believe was never guilty of anything. Christie was too business savvy and smart intellectually to mess in illegal activities. And it showed.
George it’s not hard to see how you managed to garner so much respect from your club members, a no bs and respectful person that I could listen to all day. I hope you have a lot of success from telling your stories. This story was hilarious at times tbh hahaha, great story!
I read Jay's book and thought he was an arrogant not so great guy. For me a typical "fed" with a power trip. Now just 20 mins into this I see that he has been humbled and I have a new view of him. Good to see he has some integrity and takes responsibility for his actions back then.
This is great! :) And by the way, I picked up Sonny Barger's book and made it to chapter 5 where he says the HA should have chosen to ride Hondas. I knew then and there his mind was baked. I returned the book to Audible, and left a review saying Barger obviously wasn't worth the dirt underneath Christie's middle fingernail. Sorry if that offends anyone, but... Hondas? How in the hell could his mind go there?
Hondas where more reliable apparently... Sonny use to let my great uncle ride his BMW with the 81 Oakland.. My uncle was a musical figure and had good standing..
Sonny Barger was good friends with my dads side of the family. Otto hung out with my Grandfather in Fontana back in 1948/49/50. Otto was providing security for Lucky White and His Dude Ranch Playboys. The biggest country western swing jazz band in San Bernardino, Calif. from 1946 thru 1954. Sonny came around in the late 50s and was often at the home in Baldwin Park. Great people, Great men, Great honor. The Hells Angels MC was providing security for one of the greatest country western bands long before the Englishmen arrived from London. So I've got that goin' for me. 🤣🎸
Glad you are here. Please tell people one percenters don't exist nowadays. No biker should have a diamond patch if they have just one of the many documents you need to ride. They conformed to law and wear a diamond patch. It's crazy. They try to be what y'all used to be.
George is a STAND UP GUY!!! He PERSONALLY saved me a beating in the " Ban Dar " night club, in Ventura, Ca. Scumbag pool player, decided he was going to put a pool cue across my head, when his two Fellow Hells Angeles, took the Dude, outside, and taught him some manners. I bought his entire crew Beer for thanks.
I think it’s awesome you can sit down with him just like Micheal sat down Rudy Giuliani. I bet at the height of your outlaw days your wildest dreams would’ve never thought you would sit down with the guy wanting you locked up or the one locking you up.
Thought the room you were in looked awkward for a HA and an undercover cop to meet and talk. But then I realized thats actually why it’s perfect and works haha great meeting
As a 20 year old cop, brand new they put me undercover.. I had never bought drugs in my life but I was good at it. I did that 4 years and then finished my career out at 45 years old. Looking back I am ashamed I ever did that and had I been wiser and more mature I never would have. Fast forward I’m still friends with all the ones I had to arrest. I just wanted to make a point as a grown man I never could get trust to break it like that again and drug war is just the government wanting their cut.
Hopefully he asked Jay again and get a straight answer "Did you pick the wrong patch" I think hes asking do you wish you had been a real 81 and not ATF.
Grew up in Ventura in the 90s, and I have to say that it was a safe town. That was in part to George and the Ventura Chapter. I can't speak for how it is now, I avoid the commie state.
Great interview!! I have total respect for you both but I was half expecting George at some point to pop out a gun and cap Jay and then declare "okay boys, job done, I Took care of Business" 😉
I met Jay Dobbyns in Tucson at DMAFB. It was my job to dispose of unserviceable munitions which we took to EOD on a monthly basis. BATF would bring in confiscated guns to be destroyed 😢😢. That’s how I met him.
I have a friend..figured out he was a rat ( that didn't effect me or my crew) I am far removed from all and any illegal activities...I watch myself around him and think very lowly of him..... Not sure if George understands this feeling
Friend of mine retired a feared detective. He had 20yrs on me and called me in his last days. Explained how he was only doing his job to feed his family. He almost broke up (crying ), telling me that he WISHED he could have joined a club. Somewhere our nation has lost its soul. Sounds a lot like Jay.