That's completely writing off what she was going through, and glorifying George in spite of his many,many missteps. No kid wants to run away from their parents unless they feel the world would be more receptive than there own household. If they didn't want Carmen seeing Zack, all they needed to do was have a single conversation where they didn't start yelling at her. They could have gotten to the bottom of what drove her to want to be with Zack. She's a teenager, of course she is going to double down when she feels attacked. And George has serious communication issues.
@@Mini-Toast_ so your saying that you wouldn’t run out of patience if you had to deal with a teenager like Carmen who keeps making the same mistakes over and over. Even to the point where even the show itself gave up on her in the last season.
I get why George didn’t want Carmen to see Zack because he was a jerk and all but he was fighting a battle he shouldn’t have started. He had no faith in Carmen when he should’ve trusted her to make the right final decision. It was important that she see Zack’s true colors herself. Yes she was wrong about him and George was right, but she had to experience that for herself. Sometimes the best thing to do for your child is to let them go and trust you’ve raised them to do the right thing. A parent who doesn’t trust their child, is one who doesn’t believe in their own parenting skills.
"I have a mother and a father who treat me like a baby and control everything I do!" Carmen, you're FIFTEEN!!! You are nowhere near grown, you're practically still a baby!
I gotta say, even though Carmen ruined the show a bit, Masiela Lusha did an outstanding job playing a very bratty teenager. You know the acting is great if you absolutely hate the character.
Honestly you know the only reason Carmen did not go back after Zack ditched her was because it meant admitting her parents were right all along about Zack
Unfortunately she had to see first hand at Zack's true colors. She needed to see for herself that Zack was a good for nothing thug who will end up in prison and a deadbeat dad who'll owe child support.
@@redips then it wouldn't have been worth it. Seriously they should've sent her spoiled selfish ungrateful ass to juvenile Boot camp for 6 months or 2 weeks stay at a Beyond scared straight program.
Max is understandably still angry that Carmen ruined his graduation by deciding to run away the same day of. And it wouldn't be the last time Carmen would ruin someone else's special day with her stupid drama. Last episode of season 4/first episode of season 5 she ruined George's birthday by dropping a bombshell that she plans to get pregnant, move to Georgia and then marry Jason.
You know what the saddest part is, more parents are becoming like that now. And then people wonder why we do many Karen’s and so many other bad people in the world
You know what the saddest part is, more parents are becoming like that now. And then people wonder why we do many Karen’s and so many other bad people in the world
If parents are becoming like this now, then the younger generation should be affected. Karen refers to older people. And no, if anything her softness is the reason that Carmen felt any guilt doing anything at all. If George had his way, Carmen would have turned out like Benny. If you think it's a bad thing to not put down your children and expect them to be well behaved, then grow up. Carmen's behavior is a direct result of George's parenting. They are both incredibly willful. George may have WANTED the best for her, but was constantly belittling, resenting and hostility the way to do that? No wonder she fell for these guys with honeyed words.
George isn't wrong here for wanting the best for Carmen. But she runs away from that for no good reason at all. Because the one that is being deceitful here is Carmen. Because Carmen should be the one to apologize for being deceitful to him.
It's a good lesson for the viewer though. And when Carmen treathens to run away again Angie ends up calling her bluff and Carmen knows she's fucked then.
Even after coming back to the house and being forgiven by her parents she has the audacity to talk back to her parents and thinks that she can just go out anytime she wants
Carmen was a self-entitled brat. She was given things that her parents wished they had; she took it for granted and wanted more. Life is unfair and cruel. George was trying to teach her to respect those in authority. Many kids that had less than her would’ve loved to have parents that cared about them. Angie was letting her getting with it until she reached her breaking point. George and Angie needed to have a plan for this and talked firmly about the situation; Angie was coddling Carmen. I agreed with George she wants to be treated like an adult then face the realities of life as an adult. Carmen contradicted herself by wanted to be seen and treated as an adult but reacted like a child.
He also ignored Carmen when she was a kid. In a flashback, it was shown that Carmen was trying to get George's attention when she was about 8 or so. George told her he was busy when he wasn't. He was reading a 🗞️.
Guess this is what happens when the parents prioritize their own missed opportunities on their kids rather than genuinely listening to them to avoid shit like this
@@fandomking8939 By keep complaining about how messed up his childhood was for example George and Angie only want Max to go to college just because they want to him to do better than they did and they think they can choose his future for him when they can’t they’re making it all about them not Carmen and Max another example Angie didn’t want Max to spend the rest of his life working at the factory
@@micahfranklin4560 by your logic, every parent in the world, at least the decent ones, are trying to live through their kids because wanting better for them is apparently trying to live them. Jesus, that is twisted logic.
@@fandomking8939 there is nothing wrong with wanting better things for your kids but you don't force them to achieve your goals for you and you do not try to relive your life through them sometimes U have to think about what your kids want George trying to protect Carmen was not the problem it's how he did it
@@sougotokiwa8439 and when he found out Carmen was only 15 he was smart enough to back off saying "I'm out," knowing he didn't want to do something that would get him arrested. Otherwise he'd have a new song/parody of Holiday Inn What u doing Nothing chillen in my jail cell (Who you with) prisoners making my life a living hell (What we gonna do) Save my money you can bail me out One thing lead to another get me out of this hell
Did anyone else besides wanted to slap some sense and reality into Angie? She's acting like everything is peaches and cream when a NORMAL parent would've been relieved to find their runaway child in one piece but at the same time been angry and pissed for running away in the first place.
And that's just it isn't it. We like to view kids as willful and bratty when they do things we don't like. Instead of seeing them as just people. And Carmen was never a cruel person. They don't think that these kids might be going through things of their own that lead them to make these decisions. You might be angry, but as a parent and adult, it's your responsibility to reign yourself. If you expect your kids not to act on every emotion they feel, you have to do the same. And sorry, but parents like George, no matter their intentions, always raise children like Carmen. And they wonder where it went wrong.
@@Mini-Toast_ While i agree with your point that parents need to be more emotional disciplined and rational, in this instance that does not apply. It doesn't work cause Angie is too soft. Carmen isn't cruel, but she is a brat. She once pretended to be pregnant so she could run off with Jason. Who wouldn't get pissed at their kid for pulling that stunt?
@@warmac88 doing the right thing in order to cause someone else to do the right thing is treating that person like robot. Carmen maybe a teen but she’s not a child anymore. Patents set the example to kids…but by the teens , you should know the difference between right and wrong
Seeing this entire scene alone makes realize that Angie is too soft on her kids, George is stubborn but makes good points, Max being kind of an idiot, and Carmen not wanting to listen to anyone because she thinks she isn't getting enough. She even forgot everything that Benny has told her about being pregnant at a young age. Yes she was talking about being pregnant at a young age, but Benny's entire conversation about it is about how much you lose focus about what's right and wrong about a guy you *think* is good for you
@@liam6170So you're saying Max acted the way he did saying Carmen should have his smaller room as punishment well he gets her room and demanding most of her stuff because he was the good one was because Carmen ruined his graduation they didn't celebrate more because they were too worried about Carmen after the ceremony was over I thought Max was being a brat and even thout people say he's better than Carmen he still had his bratty moments like when he didn't care Carmen was making a cake for homeless children and try to taste it and how he behaves like a typical annoying younger sibling most of the time listening in on our phone calls spying on her friend getting undressed and stealing her letter from jason
@tamyasaunders7689 I’m not saying max is a saint but think about it through max’s perspective as we saw he struggle a lot at school and had lots of trouble he put in so much hard work just to pass the 5th grade and it clearly meant a lot to him and in the end they couldn’t even celebrate it and be happy about it cause Carmen ran alway with a boy who clearly only cared about getting into her pants don’t you think max has some right to be mad at Carmen for that
@@liam6170 and even look at Carmen when Max said they wanted to talk about punishment. She has a dirty look of, "does this boy really think I'm about to take sh*t from him?"
@@liam6170I agree I hope afterwards they went to celebrate Angie didn't consider this fact all she did was tell Max to go to bed and they kept focusing all their attention on Carmen
This wouldn’t have not happened at my house. My parents would have gotten me home, yelled at me for running away, then grounded for at least 3 months. She is no idea how easy she had it, let alone how generous her folks were. Her parents went a lot of debt, just to get her into a school. You could do a lot with $14,000 a year.
This brings back memories of my family. One of my aunts was kicked out at 16 and every Christmas she would get drunk and start a big fight about it with my grandparents.
I know that everyone is complaining about Carmen's character, but honestly how did you guys expect to her react? George's has insulted multiple people throughout the entire. Benny is disrespectful too, so she inherited that part from her. I'm not defending Carmen, but honestly when you're a bad parent except them to act like brats.
I get why George didn’t want Carmen to see Zack because he was a jerk and all but he was fighting a battle he shouldn’t have started. He had no faith in Carmen when he should’ve trusted her to make the right final decision. It was important that she see Zack’s true colors herself. Yes she was wrong about him and George was right, but she had to experience that for herself. Sometimes the best thing to do for your child is to let them go and trust you’ve raised them to do the right thing. A parent who doesn’t trust their child, is one who doesn’t believe in their own parenting skills.
exactly George always overreacts 2 anything Carmen does, no wonder he's so stubborn, naive and immature and favors Max more. Da only thing George Lopez is good for is making us laugh our asses off anytime he mistreats anyone in his family, sows off his naively grin, says Wapah, Ta Loco or I GOT THIS!!!!!!
Exactly which was why Carmen kept so many secrets from George because he is so scared of her growing up that he freaks out every time she tells him something
Everyone keep saying Angie is soft and kinda *stupid* which she definitely was but y’all gotta remember she was mostly just an emotional thinker. Lady thought she was like a psychologist. She always put feelings first. She was being soft on Carmen bc she was afraid throwing the hammer on her would cause her to run away again
Welp, most likely Angie did spoiled Carmen, cause in the other episode, she admitted that she allowed her wear a thong. Which hypocritical and sexist by the way.
The problem with her character is that she was an attention seeker with low self-esteem. George blamed himself for that because he neglected Carmen when she was younger.
@@leoroemer6085 Kid's behavior always reflect on their parents, so yes it was his & Angie's fault for Carmen's misbehavior. Teenagers are less likely to listen to their parents than children are. I know this because in my teen years I was rebellious in some of my teenage years, which I won't get into. Let's not forget that George was more lenient towards Max when he did bad stuff & Angie was the one tougher on him(Max).
He did a ton of mistakes as he reached his teenage years. He got it easy because George gave Max attention and doesn't understand girls (his daughter). Carmen didn't get her dad at young age because he was too busy with work to give her time as a parent. So yea, she may act out because she never got the attention as a child from her father. Max got it easy but if the show focused on his teenage years then he would also be just as problematic
Max misbehaved when he became a teenager & as a kid & George was extremely lenient towards him. 1. Drank alchohol behind George & Angie's back 2. Was failing in elementary school & had multiple tutors & it Carmen's ex Jason to finally get him to listen. Yes, Carmen was being unreasonable & yes, Jason mess up on a couple of occasions, but I'm going to get back on topic. 3. When he finally made friends, him & his friends ganged up on another kid. I forgot what the reason why , but he almost went to jail for it. 4. When he pulled a prank on a teacher George gave him a high 5. Angie was the one who tried to tell him, we give high 5 towards good things. 5. Max also invaded Carmen's privacy when reading her diary. This is only scratching the surface Yes, I acknowledge that Carmen did worse stuff, but Angie wasn't the only one playing favorites. George was too when it came to Max. Yes, Angie was lenient towards Carmen & tougher on Max, but with George it was the exact opposite. Edit Reminder Max was underage when drinking.
Carmen didn’t have self esteem!! she needed boys to give her self esteem and a sense of importance ,because of George n Angie favoring max as “THE GOLDEN CHILD” ! Those who know the episode “I only have eyes for you” will remember what I meant when Carmen says this lol
Carmen the only person in the room who has issues is YOU! 1st off you lied to your parents about Zach and had another boy Noah cover for you for over a month. 2nd You're totally in Denial about Zach's background yet you still wanted to be with him even though George and Angie both told you that he was gonna dump you right after sex and that he was just using you and he got another girl pregnant and didn't even respect her to be remotely safe. 3rd you lied and keep on disrespecting your family even though they love you and will do anything and everything to make sure you and Max have a great life and 4th. You ruined Max's graduation.
She was, but George kinda had it coming, because in the episode George knows Ex-Zackly what happened he told her to run away & said don't expect him to go looking for her. Carmen was wrong to go behind George & Angie's(They were right about Zack) to see Zack, but George contributed to this too as I explained in the 1st sentence.
Carmen has low self-esteem because: 1. George neglected her when she little. 2. Angie is soft on her at times. 3. George tends to be there for Max more than her. 4. Her ex-boyfriend Adam spread rumors and lies about sleeping her, causing Carmen to be harassed by a majority of the student body at public high school. 5. Her on-and-off boyfriend Jason cheated on her. 6. Zack dated her for sex and as a way to tick off George. 7. Carmen is a hopeless romantic.
@@freddy8479You have a point there. I mean Gloria tried to seduce George for her herself and Ray is a con artist who attempted to steal his own daughter’s inheritance.
1:35 George: i didn't have a dad. Carmen: There you go again, the same excuse!! I didn't have a dad, i didn't have a dad!!! I never made friends because i didn't have a dad. I can't go to baseball games because i didn't have a dad. I don't know how to eat a hamburger because i didn't have a dad!! lol
What are we supposed to do with kids now a days, let them roll over their parents like a steamroller, reinforcing bad behavior or lay down the law and discipline them.
@@QTcomicsPOP you want parents to be bullies?! Hitting your children didn't work then & it most definitely won't work now. You'll get arrested & have your children taken away by social services. Personally, I think parents should invest in sending their kids to Montessori school because it teaches kids to be independent & self sufficient. I did that w/ my 3 girls & they rarely act up or throw tantrums (almost never). I also put them in Martial arts, girl scouts & taught them the importance of eating healthy & how the healthiest food choices can affect our everyday lives. I give my girls their space/independence, build their characters through activity & give them a sense of responsibility at a very young age rather than be authoritative or the push over parent that gives their children what they want. It works for me.
@@QTcomicsPOP that's cool. I respect your opinion & beliefs. I just think beating your kids is toxic parenting. You're introducing & bringing in violence in the home. Thankfully, Martial Arts has helped me tremendously w/ parenting & also self discipline within myself. How can you discipline your kids if you yourself ain't disciplined? My opinion & belief though.
Yeah a beating isn't necessary. But you can scream and yell at them for doing something that they shouldn't be doing. For example running away just because things aren't going well at home doesn't mean that you should runaway. Because that's just an excuse to avoid getting into trouble. Because strict parents are good parents. Like enforcing rules on you and that's why.
No offense, I don't like how Angie thinks everything is going to be alright. Hell, if I did things like that I would be totally under house arrest until I need to appreciate what I have. George was raised in a tougher environment and Angie lived in a fantasy land since she got everything she wanted as daddy's little girl. They need to be tough on Carmen because she is fifteen now. She is not a baby anymore. She needs to grow up. George never said to get out. He gave Carmen a choice. If you don't like living with your parents then you can leave.
People in the comment section are ignoring George's words in the episode George Know Ex-Zackly what happened. George: If you don't like it then leave & see what it's like out there. Don't expect me to come looking for you. Carmen: I wish you weren't my dad & then walks upstairs
I wish the producers of the show made the Carmen character more mature, more wiser They just had to make the character a spoiled brat But then again, I wish the producers didn't made Angie a soft ass mother that get walked over
Angie was raised wayyyyyy differently than George. She was brought up in a world of privilege and everything was giving to her. She was mommy and daddy's little princess.
Angie needed to shut up she was so spoiled she thought everything was sunshine and rainbows but George saw the world for what it really was and Carmen was so spoiled if that was my child I’ll give her the belt and military school
Carmen did have a point when she said her dad told her to leave "send us a postcard" that's why u gotta be careful with the words u chose cuz u never know what's gonna happen
Carmen better be lucky her mom wasn't Claire Huxtable or Roseanne Conner or Vivian Banks "from the 1st 2nd and third season" or Rochelle Rock or Lois Wilkerson.
Why does Angie act like everything’s okay? I mean she is not helping in that way, she is so naive and I would get mad too if my kid ran away because I would be worried about what could happen to my child. Although, I don’t have kids of my own, I just want someone’s opinion and understanding.
George literally told her to run away & don't expect him to look for her in the episode George knows Ex-Zackly what happened. Yes, George & Angie were right about Zack & yes, Angie is naive, but George contributed to this as well as I explained in the 1st sentence. P.S I wouldn't recommend telling to leave, because if they do it then you're getting what you asked for.
@Bruce Lee Carmen afterwards the next day apologized to George and told him that she was going to break off with Zach, until the graduation scene she ran away with Zach. She was completely selfish
@Bruce Lee Carmen afterwards the next day apologized to George and told him that she was going to break off with Zach, until the graduation scene she ran away with Zach. She was completely selfish
@@gerawallstar3487 Even so George admitted that he was a failure & George didn't look for Carmen right away. He originally called the police, which most parents would've done, but went looking for her, because he remembered that he neglected her as a child. George also grounded her 1 time for no reason. He grounded Carmen after Max invaded Taylor's privacy & earlier in the episode Max asked him what if her day goes great. Them 2 laughed afterwards.
@@marcosbenitez9629No. She got punished for spraying perfume in Max's eye in retaliation. All she had to do was tell her parents Max was spying and he would have got in trouble. Instead she took matters in her own hands and that was the result.
There’s something that I wanna point out in this video: George once again going back to the “growing up without a dad” argument as well as the “shitty alcoholic mom that abused me when I was growing up” clause to throw in as an added bonus. Parents who constantly beat that dead horse when it comes to how they raise their children annoy me to no end. Like you didn’t grow up with a parent in your life? Then great. The one who stayed turned out to be a toxic piece of work because of their beef? Kum-ba-fucking-ya. Honestly, who gives a shit? Some people literally grow up without BOTH of their parents in the home. It’s not an excuse to belittle and berate your own children into the monsters that you created out of your own negligence and disrespect. Granted yes, George even admitted he should’ve done better than what he did when Carmen was growing up. And yes, Carmen herself was an insecure, naive girl when it came to boys that only wanted to use her for sex. But seriously, there’s a limit as to how much of that one can use when settling an example for your kids.
Deep Down Angie is Mad at Carmen because the reason why because she acting like this because she doesn't wanted to be tough on Carmen she knows that she has the right to be mad at her angie she is just weak minded to be honest i don't like Angie in this episode. I hate that she trying to pretend that everything is Okay.
I think a part of the reason was also cause she was worried about being tough when she saw how it backfired on George when he told Carmen if she did not like his rules to go live somewhere else Angie means well but yeah she’s to soft sometimes
Agreed I don't blame George for telling Carmen to go live somewhere else because didn't Carmen learn how sex and how it to become 16 and pregnant and hooking up with the guy that who you think he is. And I also hate it how Carmen act to her parents by not giving a dam. Carmen should be happy that she has parents that cared for her but let say if she didn't her life would been miserable like George Childhood.
@@ozairdurrani9679 oh I know who she is. Most likely she'd spoil her. But if it was Benny's mom, oh damn! She'd have carmen in a fetal position crying and sucking her thumb in a corner.
Ok so I’m a guy and I have a young daughter and a baby boy . And it was my mother that layed into me when I was out doing stupid crap as a teen . My father who was never really there only beat my ass when I was a kid never had time for me from the time I was 12-17 at 17 he died so it was always my mom who did the bad guy thing but she also was the good guy as well so she was bot MJ mom and dad in our house so now as a father I’ll be damned if my little girl be doing the shit carman does
