You were two people visiting George in his own home. One could have easily distracted George while the other could have gone looking for the TWOW manuscript. So I see a lot of missed opportunity in this interview.
He does have a point. Canon is well, not useful as an idea. And GRRM is right about history. History is literally a Lie we tell ourselves. For example, Smedley Butler, Two Time MOH recipient, Major General, USMC is famous for being an two time MOH recipient, but what isn't well known is he wrote a book called "War is a Racket". He also stood up for "The Bonus Army" in the great depression. He was also asked to lead a coup against FDR but instead turned in the Coup leaders, one of which was DuPont, of the DuPont Corporation, and the other was Prescott Bush, Father of George Bush and Grandfather of George W. Bush.
Yes, but he still didn't answer the question.. The guy who asked it bothered to specify the question for the House of the Dragon series because of the specific story angles compared to the series (Mushroom/The Meisters)...
Which makes sense to an extent but canon is still relevant. You can't start a series of books by establishing that physics work exactly like they do in reality and then four books later say it doesn't.
Was anyone else shocked about how much lore George went into about Valyria?? I have watched so many interviews over the years and have never heard him say "I haven't really gone into this yet in the books but-" and then lore dump. Incredibly cool, even if it wasn't that much.
“Their version of Euron Greyjoy is day and night from my version of Euron Greyjoy…” understatement for the ages… him and Doran Martell are my two favorite characters in the books, that probably says everything that needs to be said about how I liked the show.
Book Euron: Lovecraftian Sauron with a flair of Evil Pirate (perhaps Blackbeard) mixed in him. Show Euron: A finger in the Bum! Book Doran: Melancholic Enigma who seems to have hundreds of schemes and plots underway. Always two step ahead of his family members, keeps the sand snakes in check. TV Doran: Who? That guy who was killed before his story could even begin? The one who was killed for cheap shock value? That too by his own family. The Doran who couldn't even predict the most basic stuff?
@@wittweirdo3066 Absolutely... the Young Griff story and the build up to his reveal through Jon Connington and Arianne, book Asha's story, Lady Stoneheart... It's on a completely different level.
Sure there was a dip in quality towards the end, and sure Euron especially is so far from what you expect.. I think the adaptation as a whole was great. I appreciate being with Robb a little more through the war (we don’t see the battles but readers should know what I mean here), and I really laughed everytime Jon’s “real name” was said.. Aegon, the name the former prince liked so much he used it twice lol.. like all I could think about is all those George Forman’s out there..
he seems like such a lovely man, he probably could talk for hours and hours if he was allowed. lovely interview, no one else could have done a better interview
Congratulations, I'm so proud of you guys, I don't know what could top this and I don't think of any other people in the fandom that deserves it the most.
@@coachmcguirk6297 I don't think Preston knows more than George, and sometimes his theories go far too much on the tinfoil hat territory. Also, his pessimistic vibes kill the mood to the point that sometimes I just can't hear him talk. One thing is to be critical, another is to be a cunt about every detail
Dudes, THANK YOU for caring about subtitles/CC! Those of us who are hard of hearing usually have to make do with auto-populated captions with this kind of content. They're not terrible, as first world problems go, but they really fall short during fantasy talk, when it comes to proper nouns and ye olden terms like "gorget" and "saltant" and "basilisk," etc. It means a lot that you care about getting things right for us, so we don't wonder why Gregor Clegane puts a "gorgeous" on his head! I was already subscribed, but now I'm going to ring the bell.
You were in very close proximity to TWOW!He seemed super relaxed in your company and I loved that you got him talking about things I’ve not heard him discuss before. Except the Scarlett O’Hara thing 😂
As an academic librarian, I loved George’s story about the building having different numbers of floors in different sources. All research is like this, that is why professors ask students (or used them) to use many sources with different points of view. Speaking as a former software engineer who took years of higher math, I wish that colleges would require learning library research / critical thinking skills over taking calculus to graduate.
Real mind-stumpers for me: -George doesn't intend for parallel lives -There's a powerful blood magic group that is distinct from (and rivals to?) dragon riders in Valyria -Valyrians were fooled by genetics and were cool with marrying dragonriders from other families Congrats!
@@samo4648 "-Valyrians were fooled by genetics and were cool with marrying dragonriders from other families" this sounds more like wishfull thinkin than what he said in the interview. Just seems like a silly way to legitimize modern wokeness of the tv show.
@SKG Anno lol that's not what woke means. That's not the slang meaning. It's not another way to say black 🙄. The word you're looking for is PC not woke. also It's a make believe world...lol.
Having a black Valyrians doesn’t invalidate his writing. Back in the 90’s when he wrote ASOIAF, biracial relationships were still seen as tricky in Hollywood. Hell making any of your main characters black was usually frowned upon. In Night Crawler, he wanted his main female protagonist to be black. The publisher said he’ll no because no one would buy his book. I know these things because I’m mixed and I care about my heritage. I was born in the 70’s and lived through it. I have no idea why some get so caught up on ethnic preference of actors. In theater and music, we don’t. We cast the best person for the role. There will always be people who bitch about it. Fuck them. Let ‘em hate while the rest f us enjoy the show! 🍻
I love how he comes so close to saying that he didn't like the show's ending without actually saying it. The fact that he had less and less of a control as the show went on was obvious but now it's confirmed and I think he didn't just give up creative influence to focus on TWOW but was actually pushed aside by the showrunners.
Good to hear that the book canon of GOT is going to be VERY different from the show canon, makes me look forward to Winds of Winter again... Great interview thanks for this!
Congratulations HoW on getting this interview and such access to the legend himself , GRRM. Really is amazing , extremely happy for you. This channel has contributed so much to the fandom in general , so this is very well deserved. Massive achievement and accomplishment. I have been eagerly waiting for the release of this interview ; so look forward to spending the next over an hour watching and listening to every detail. Congrats again.
I pray I'm half as sharp as this man when I'm 30, let alone 73. Bless him for all he's brought us. They say a reader lives a thousand lives, and I'd say GRRM accounts for at least half of the thousand I've lived!
Congratulations guys…. This is only the second time that I’ve actually seen a real George RR Martin interview and not just a Game of Thrones/Song of ice and fire interview. Not only that, but it’s so wonderful that you actually get into all 3 forms of the works…. Books, TV plus audio book and possible podcasts and radio plays, video games, board games, toys, even species names. I love hearing about all of George’s work…. and when I finish reading Fire and Blood (I’m still on page 500) I would love to read some of his sci-fi novels. Excelent work…. totally loved the interview!! 👍👍👍👍😎😎😎😎😎😎
@@allenbro9900 It was an interview at a conference in Chicago, monitored by one of his fellow female writers, where she paid very special attention of talking about George RR Martin the writer, including all of his book and not just about Song of Ice and Fire. If I find the link I promise to post here later.
I personally think Condal would be an amazing architect “Feige” type for the cinematic Thrones universe. He knows his stuff, is a LONG time fan & truly cares to get it right!
18:00 very little influence at the end of game of thrones 26:00 book canon very different from show 1:04:00 Valyrian bloodmages 1:05:40 George on hard magic systems like Brando Sandos 1:06:50 Doom was caused by mis-magic
I've been waiting for this! Good stuff guys and thanks for sharing this monumental moment with us. I hope it doesnt sound arrogant to say I feel like I'm a part of these accomplishments of yours, Teflon's and Ertaç..."i knew them when" 🤣
So much respect ❤ I hate that my hero’s triumph is soured by the nagging and dissing. One does Not harass a master about his own business. I’m so jealous, and proud, of you- thanks for this! All my best to this channel, the adult members of our community, and most of all, thank you Ser GRRM
I just found your channel and will be following closely because of this interview GRRM is the greatest author of our generation in the coming century his works will be viewed in the pantheon of fiction equal to any other mighty pen. Sub well earned
This was awesome! I’m so excited for you for getting this opportunity and thankful that you represent the fandom so well (and didn’t just beat him over the head with things he doesn’t want to answer, answered 30 times before, or things that make him feel bad about timing on TWOW like he gets so often). This was great! Thanks!
I forgot how much I LOVE you guys.. all because I got PISSED at how GOT ended and refused to even think about the Westeros.. until I decided to give HOTD a chance. So welcome back into my life, cause you two are my FAVORITE YT for all things Westeros.
This was awesome. Makes me really happy to see GRRM connecting with some of his strongest fan base. And that thing he said about there being 2 groups of Valyrians, dragon riders and practicers of blood magic… Was that new information!?!?!?
Thank you for this! Personally I remember reading the last Harry Potter book after it came out and being heart broken that it was officially over so while I'm eager to find out what happens next in ASOIAF, as long as it's still a WIP in some way, I kinda find a peace/happiness/excitement in that. Extra happy that there are other shows in development too!
I like this interview a lot. The atmosphere and the mood here are so nice, that I often put this record as a background while do my work. So I get necessary balance between relaxed and tensed state of mind. Thank you all who participated in creating this record!
Oh wow, congrats! What an achievement to be able to interview George R.R. Martin.... In person.. and on his own turf! So cool, I'm genuinely happy for you guys.
One thing Thst just came to me is like after watching ALL of his interviews is that George is one of the most engaging sci-fi writers in history lol like he LOVES geek-sci-Fi culture, to the point where there should be a TV show about HIM lolol and the dawn of “geek-culture/fantasy/TV/comic con etc” like a mad men but about the world that became what we know now, following a dude who is trying to just make it, all while working on the “next lord of the rings”
I read the series (so far) several times over but I finally listened to the Dotrice audiobooks and wow what a different experience but excellent nonetheless.
I am planning on listening to him, but i seen some comments saying he is not consistant with all the different voices sometimes confuses them, and it affects the flow to some extent, is that true? Or, they are nick picing? shall i not worry about about it?, i need some opinon from you guys.
I am itching to read this 1890s New York City murder mystery story that he mentioned. Super interesting concept. Given that he said that he did not want to attack fans while answering my question (thereby implying that he was kinda tempted to do it and was trying to refrain), I now get to say that GRRM personally attacked me! :D (Which absolutely is an honor. I am quite pleased). Thank you for including my question! He somehow managed to provide more and also less of an answer than I was hoping for, but it was fascinating all the same. I am extremely grateful to you for including it. I am sorry that I used up twenty-two minutes of this seventy-minute-long interview, though; I certainly was not expecting that and feel bad for having hogged so much of the time. I feel like I could just listen to him talk forever. He has such an incredible mind. Great recall it seems (I did not fact-check but he certainly seems to know his stuff), a lot of experience and random knowledge, a great appreciation for perspectives and the complexities of the world, and such brilliant creativity. He has enriched so many lives. P.S.: I am really curious about whether other Valyrian families had dragon dreams now. You asked (attempted twice, I believe), but he did not answer, so that unknown will be tickling at the back of my mind for the rest of its unanswered lifetime - or mine. :P
This was awesome and it looks like it was a lot of fun for you guys. I was really glad to hear you talking about some of the fan stuff bc it seems like for awhile GRRM was only getting the mean side of Fandom, so I'm glad that he knows this side of Fandom is out there as well.
I can't imagine anyone who deserved this interview more. Congratulations you guys. I'm so happy for you! I'll be in Santa Fe for a long weekend next month and the bookstore is definitely on my agenda. This was just an absolute pleasure to watch. 😘
This is brilliant! Thank you! How incredible. I always think it would be wonderful to have George as a grandad. Imagine the games and world he could create in just one game! A maestro indeed. Also I would want to play with the miniatures but I don't think would happen 😂😂children and collectibles don't often mix.
Wow! You guys did a fantastic job. George is amazing, incredibly well read and we never get to see him like this. I feel privileged to have watched this.
Love you guys...this is a great talk with George...n look at him a nerd just like us listening to talk radio...lol...thanks again for everything you do...congrats on getting so close to the legend...he's so comfortable with you
That was great! Always a treat listening to George talk, especially when the interviewers don't ask the same tired questions! Great job on the subtitles as well!
