I feel like the 2020 election and everything that happened after it will be studied in the future by people trying to understand how fascism came so quickly to america
@@Jessepbass a type of ultranationalist movement focused in reasserting the dominance of their group. It seeks to restore the former glory that was stolen from them by the insidious outsiders that undermined the country's traditional cultural values and promoted relativism and "degeneracy." It tends to be agressive and militaristic, taking orders from a strongman with a cult of personality. The exact way this manifests varies from context to context, but the general framework is consistent. For more you can read "Ur-fascism" by Umberto Eco. Do you have any other questions?
@@gemguy6812 You're missing the point. If 5 expensive recounts still have people convinced that there was a rigged election, Then no a month amount of money or counting that we spend or do will ever satisfy these people and it's not worth trying. They are choosing not to be satisfied and we could spend every dollar we have auditing the election but they won't be happy until it supports the bogus and fictional results that they have already chosen to believe. Looking at the Republican party in 2021 is like that episode of the Twilight Zone in which that guy couldn't stop putting money in the slot machine because he thought it was "ready to pay out" so he lost all of his money in his fixation. He simply refused to be convinced otherwise and wouldn't let his love ones stop him from digging his own grave. That is the Republican party in 2021.
@@SB-vl3ws I disagree, I think the vast majority would accept the audit results- how many democrats accepted the Mueller report on the Russia collusion accusation, and how much money was spent on that? Did the democrats accept the Trump acquittal on two impeachments? How much did that take from the peoples business. I think the democrats keep putting money in that slot machine you mention. The republicans want an audit to ensure a fair and honest election, one time, and they are the villains? The democrats are very nervous as they should be.
@@gemguy6812 You never accepted the Mueller report because the Mueller report concluded that trump DID obstruct justice but no one ever did anything about it because he was the president. Bill Barr just brushed it under the rug while you pretended it wasn't a big deal. Russia absolutely did interfere with our elections but they couldn't find a paper trail leading directly to the president, only his underlings. Do you live under a rock or something? When the audit comes out without any evidence and says that the results are inconclusive you will continue to believe in your fantasy of a stolen election because that's what you want to believe. This isn't about insuring a free infere election what you guys are trying to do is knowingly discredit a free and fair election. You have no evidence and yet you've convinced yourself that all of this happened because you want to believe in it. It's a sickening level of delusion and I hope you get help.
@@TheGoodfellas44 who are you talking to? "The same people" who? Honey you don't know me and America was screwed since the way these old generations (including you) were raised.
just remember all those people you see in the streets who are half coherent and barely functioning. That's these people, who had the fortune of being financially and medically subsidized.
@Damirius Mason I live in Georgia and it is a screwed-up system, they Purge the voting rolls every two years. .. people that died or moved to another state or removed, and sometimes that removal is incorrect and then the voter has to re-register again, it's a stupid system, but it has nothing to do with the presidential election or flipping Georgia Blue... Nice try though, but facts really do matter
@@oscarosullivan4513 yes, we’re you born yesterday? It’s common to make comparisons to break things down to simple concept. I’ll help you...if it’s very important to get it right in a sporting event, (which you seem to minimize when compared to politics), then it’s infinitely more important to get it right during an election. If a runner barely got first place in a race, but protested like a petulant child when an instant replay could solidify his win, you might get the sense that “something smells funny”.
the big problem is, the newer 'audits' are not really recounts, they are looking for 'patterns'... meaning they are noticing differences in printing lots and trying to draw a line from them to 'fake ballots'. that is why the AZ team is focusing on things like how ink smudges or how paper folds or the weight of the ballot. all things that can vary by print runs or even printing companies. They are using pseudoscience to try to 'prove' a bunch of ballots were fake, which means they can make pretty much any claim they like.
1. idk 2. why are we talking about race as if it was 1800’s. 3. if I need to show my ID to pick up my prescriptions, then I should show my ID, to vote. Don’t understand how showing a id is equal to discrimination?
There's no reason to believe that these audits aren't fraudulent. So audit these audits too. And then there's no reason to believe that those audits aren't going to be fraudulent either. So audit the audits of audits. And then there's no reason to believe ... ... I think you get the point. Who am I to stop you from pouring your taxes down the drain. All the best.
The same people who screamed to stop wasting tax payer money when it came to Trump and Russia sure want to waste tax payer money when it comes to placating the ego of a 70+ year old man-child.
The lack of 1. Critical thinking abilities, and 2. General knowledge e.g. knowing what an audit is.. Well, it's just frightened. People blinded by cognitive bias, ideology, lack of insight, and ignorance.
Transparency is good. Problem is I don't think they'll stop counting and recounting until they somehow get the result they want. That's the way trump thinks, that he can never lose. It just can't happen in his mind, and he's convinced his followers that that's the way the world works. If he was a more reasonable person we might think they have a legitimate grievance instead of just doing this to keep his followers angry. Unfortunately, trump's never been known as a reasonable person.
I don't trust either. I am glad they are doing something to help me have some faith in the election system. Even if things do not turn out the way I want. I will still be grateful for a double check.
@@jackiehazlett7805 the only thing democraps notice is WHO is in power, not what they accomplish. For that they couldn’t care less which is what we are witnessing now
In case you haven’t noticed, none of that is happening. What IS happening are several extensive audits of counties where there were strange results. In Windham New Hampshire, a hand recount revealed that the machines miscounted the Republican candidates, and missed 300 votes for ALL of the Republicans on the ballot. In Fulton Co, GA, four poll workers have submitted affidavits that they saw 1000s of mail in ballots that appeared to be xerox copies. One of the poll workers, a 20 year veteran of Fulton County elections, raised a flag and was fired. Fulton County now ADMITS publicly, that they have “misplaced” the chain of custody documents for as many as 18,000 mail in ballots. Biden won GA by 12,000 votes. Several weeks ago, a state judge ordered Fulton County to guard the ballots 24/7 using Fulton County Deputies. 2 weeks ago, two deputies were stationed to guard all of the Fulton County ballots. Both deputies left their post for 2 hours. 30 minutes after they left, the back door of the facility was unlocked and the door left wide open, and the ballots were unguarded. Fulton County Ga has a long history of political corruption.
@@jonstefanandersen 81 million people seen Biden grope on Children and Women that even CNN did a segment on it and Pelosi told him to stop and you still said "I'm ok with this"
@@brapgabslab7336 lol. Yes. Because Trump asked for Russia's help. So investigations were done. This whole recount business is based on the losers opinion with zero facts or believable story to back up his claims. Plus, folks involved in those allegations actually were found to have broken various campaign laws. So...there is facts...and there is this trump moron lies.
@@plaidpanda "no one demanded recounts like the crying babies here" No instead there was a full 3 year investigation by the FBI that proved there was not evidence of anything being manipulated not to mention you tired to impeach the man.
I also remember a few Republicans and Trumpers in comments being all mad that it costed money for the investigationss like collusion and impeachment which they didn’t want to go through with. They don’t care about the price now especially after the recount of votes
@@danieltrejo6330 and the funny thing is some have been done 2 or 3 times and they still don't understand he lost...don't know about you but one a$$ kicking is one to many
@@fyourmoms1962 well shit's gonna get bad after our inflation bubble finally bursts. But he free gubberment money right and it's not like our kids will have to work in our destroyed economy.
@Mike Gainer another socialist's lefties who think sleepy Biden is so great and a powerful leader Look at all the failures Biden has accomplish in 40 years he has been in politics and look what he has done when vice president you democrat's are losing badly it actually becoming a comedy show to the world and republican's
No this is what happens when you have no education zero understanding of civics and just follow a wannabe dictator blindly. The right are taking facism to a new level , we see you
I just don't understand why Moscow Mitch keeps getting reelected in Kentucky South Carolina election results should be looked into considering what Flimsy Graham 🍘 tried pulling in Georgia who's to say that he didn't get away with what he wanted Georgia to do in South Carolina just saying MAGA Morons Ain't Got Anything
@@brapgabslab7336 but the official statement was that trump won. I know there are idiots, but at least the former president should be educated enough to participate in a civil process
@@brapgabslab7336 "You guys" who? Some Democrats thought it was stolen, but most acknowledged Trump won and called him 45, and consistently commented on him being president. Nobody dragged it on this long, not with these numbers. Nobody stormed the capitol. You are insane and justifying it by your imagined alternative history/"alternative facts".
@@brapgabslab7336Trump lost the popular vote then too. This time he got his ass kicked. You losers have to accept that. There's NO chance he'll ever be president again. By 2024 his dementia will be in full swing
@@SHENDOH "You losers have to accept that" something you couldn't do. "Trump lost the popular vote then too" the popular vote doesn't mean anything really. If Biden is so popular and so good how come he is sitting at a 46% approval rating? " 2024 his dementia will be in full swing" you are right Biden's dementia will be more evident then it is now.
it is actually a good example of their thought process and trust levels. the AZ team put out an initial document, which was debunked point by point and shown to simply be a case of their incompetence (for instance, they didn't know how to restore a RAID image they took, so they claimed the files were deleted).. but their followers don't care. you just have to CLAIM to have proven it, and the right simply accept that confidence.
How does vote counting work then? What is rank choice voting? Did you know that our machines have rank choice voting? You good with that? I didn't hear Trump say anything about that. I found it in THEIR MANUAL. Come on enlighten us.
This country is so divided its a miracle we became a country to begin with. Every state acts like its own mini country and hates the states theyre next to. Such a rodeo.
@@williamstewart7399 This makes me so angry. So we have to just keep paying over and over again for their lunacy. When are we going to get an overriding Federal Bill to stop this mess?
@@johnnytsunami3695 Right, dems and the left(w the help of neocons) are weaponizing the govt against not only Trump (who will walk easily), but good Americans. I hope they remember this when the power shifts and they're back on the sidelines. The investigative power will be pointed in their direction and of course they'll be whining that we're all fascists even when they set the precedent.
@@jondoe4828 Yep, it's funny the left used to be against the security state until they became it. It was never about the right things it was about them wanting that power.
You should be embarrassed that you voted for the senile old fool. You can’t possibly think he is competent or that someone is running the country in the background, but I guess that is ok with you. I prefer a president with a working brain. Call me crazy…
@Adam D Why are making this a race issue? "But at least we want to hold our leadership accountable rather than bend the knee to it." www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Report_FINAL.pdf
Arizona is the first forensic audit the US has ever had, these are not “recounts” these are forensic audits. And they are conducted legally by professionals.
CyberNinjas are not professionals. They are a two-bit partisan operation with NO AUDITING EXPERIENCE. Republicans live in bizarro world, for real. It’s fucking embarrassing.
@@TheGoodfellas44 Of course I’m a partisan. But I’m not a grifter owner of a shoddy “cyber security” company who has publicly pushed the Big Lie. That’s a massive conflict of interest, let alone the fact that this company is incompetent. Let alone that THERE HAVE ALREADY BEEN AUDITS! What don’t you understand about this? The 2020 election was declared, partially by REPUBLICAN security experts in RED STATES, the most secure election in modern history. Trumptards are deeply and truly deranged.
@@Tavat None of this would have happened without Trump. The republican party was bad, but not this bad. Trump was initially jealous of Obama. So he created the Birtherism conspiracy, and then during his presidency started a shitstorm of lies. It's just amazing how people don't see right through it all. he's such a phony.
Man Biden has helped so much from not being able to complete a sentence without a scrip, gas prices are awesome, and we are going back to oil Wars in the Middle East. Hell ya go USA
@@johnnytsunami3695 no both sides don't do it. one side go's thru normal recount and after election stuff and accepts the result. The other has decided they would and won't ever accept a result other than a win. It's def not a both sides. See you out there...
@@lanicontreras8954 can you give a timeline? Can you give any inkling? It’s kinda funny for so many allegations, for there not to be EVEN A SHRED- not even an iota - of proof that has stood up in court. I will say, you should really do your research 🔬
Russia hacked the election to put Trump in office and he was a sleeper cell by Putin because they have pee tapes and black mail on him so he works in their favor. lol you really think only republicans are crazy?
If Joe Biden won by such a landslide then why y’all worried about a recount anyway 🤣🤧 at this point I know he’s president so that’s not what matters. What matters is making sure our elections are solid in the future 🤷🏻♀️
@@XgiannettoX I showed one of my democrat friends senate hearing where jim jordan laid everything out with muller how Hillary actually paid for the Steele docier in an attempt to take the heat off of her for her email scandle, and tried to make it look like trump colluded with russia to steal the election... There response.. they'll probably find proof a few years from now trump did collude with russia....lol
I remember believing VICE was great and loved the material they presented. Now I have to question any previous material as this proves they either are dishonest or have no idea how to investigate the subject, possibly both dishonest and inept in investigative ability.
“We learned not to put any dates on anything” LMAOO!!! Yeah, because you’re never right about anything EVER. You’ve already been proved wrong over and over and over again, and it hurts your feelings, so you keep moving the goal post to make yourself feel better. People, listen: If you believe something that cannot be disproved in your eyes, that should be a huge red flag to you. Question any belief you have that could never be disproved, because chances are, it’s false.
I believed the elections were safe, but now I should challenge my idea that they are so secure they are IMPOSSIBLE to infiltrate and manipulate. There is no one with any power who could ever manipulate election parameters and abuse the margins. It could never happen that someone could 'steal' an election. It sounds like you need a red flag and some information. The first two Arizona recounts, only counted 52k ballots, because it is claimed to be 'statistically significant'. Believe me, I wish people would stfu about it to! but the RIGHT WAY TO DO THAT IS TO PROVE THEM WRONG. Now we have to assume either you don't understand how 52k counted is not near the total million plus ballots or that you didn't actually keep up with specifics of the recounts because some public speaker said, tweeted, or videod the statement that the conclusion is 'statistically significant' amounts are okay, neglecting the check for all without even letting you know only 52k were counted. I suppose this is 'moving the goal post' but it is for certification of ALL the ballots being counted and accounted for. Simply count them all and then say it. So LMAO YEAH! You want to rebuke your opponents because it gives you identity as being morally correct, that is you sooooo great at analyzing yourself, enough so to put out a statement that, "Yeah, because you’re NEVER right about anything EVER." and then follow it with "Question any belief you have that could NEVER be disproved, because chances are, it’s false.". Your own belief is the imaginary otherside is 'never right' giving you the unspoken space that is 'right'. Your own belief is a certified 'never' belief, that should be your red flag girly. I never questioned elections until 2016, when it was publicly repeated that Russia stole our election through tainting the internet and influencing people, I questioned it more in 2020 when people talked about voting machines, I thought 'that could never happen, I trust my government to be accountable in that degree' sadly the evidence proved me wrong. I tell you this, EVIDENCE IS NOT PROOF. The evidence is valid and led the judges to allowing these comprehensive forensic audits not just 'statistically significant' ones. Even the statistically significant audits where instructed to choose the boxes to audit based on voting machine software. So that is to say, that the voting machines software, which knows what is in each box because it counted them and sorted them back into the box, tells the auditors which boxes to audit specifically. It challenged my thought. For all the years of gerrymandering in this country and other attempts at voter suppresion, you only denounce this theory because it comes from your 'enemy' and rebuking it gives you some sense of momentary fleeting self gratification, because your self importance is too shallow to know what you're talking about. Who's feelings get hurt, grow up and gain some EQ. Your grandiose self importance and blatant hypocrisy is normal online. So don't get hurt cause people want to ask questions. In fact there are no stupid questions, despite what limiting belief you might carry regarding that, such as "only stupid people" or "only stupid answers". Truth is the grandest 'voter suppression' is falsifying an election like they do in North Korea or Iran. I don't believe this but I'm not against questioning a process which in truth I priorly knew very little about, but I chose to learn and stay updated with it. You cannot conceive an election being stolen because it hasn't happened here yet? Whatever makes you feel good toots for the fleeting second of self gratification your assumptions get you. The less you know about this subject the more you assume you know. That is vaguely true for most subjects of learning. Just prove me wrong instead of being like Kim Jong-Un supporters insisting 100% of the country voted for him. Calling me names and assumptions hasn't affected me since I was 7, I am rubber you are glue, your words bounce off me and stick to you....
@@smplfi9859 wtf is this? I’ve never seen such an incoherent, rambling, triggered rant in my life. And you’ve said absolutely nothing of any substance whatsoever, despite going on and on. I’d ask you to take a deep breath and try again, but then I’d never get back the time I’d have to spend reading your reply. Btw, calling me “toots” really paints a weird picture of who you are. It’s creepy.
We have the right to audit ANY election. It should be honored, trusted, and done without bias or agendas from ALL sides to instill trust in the voting process. Why are Democrats and leftist media so against this? Asking for a friend.
Everything has been audited that's been asked to be audited. Stop acting like you're fucking oppressed. The audits show nothing 60 times and you still won't be happy. That's why this is stupid. No one is saying you can't audit. But if you audit and you find nothing, chances are you're going to find nothing the 10th time either. Stop.
It's even more sad, when you think about, that this is going to spread into other democracies. Here in germany some members of the AfD are already saying, that vote by mail isn't save.
“The state didn’t flip overnight. What happened were the votes were counted and Georgia turned blue for the first time in 28 years”…..So in other words, the state flipped overnight.
