Great research. Good insight. I just did a video on African slavery before America, like how you mentioned people were forced into other places. It happened everywhere. Humans are wild.
Thank you Dr. Danielle Bainbridge after years of trying to put such pieces together I have come to the same conclusions on the ideas of European emigration to the US. However, I am very reluctant to call black folks immigrants - when so many of us were here long before the British and then later mixed with the indigenous peoples. Peace.
It really is incredible how you managed to turn a video about German and Irish immigration into a slavery talk 🥴 Fyi there were many other enslaved peoples in America before the 19th century. There were also a lot of people fleeing persecution (mostly by Britain) LONG before the 19th century. I should have known before I clicked on it...
I think you’re projecting what you want to get angry about onto what she’s actually saying. Most of this talk is about immigration, and it’s important to acknowledge that black people weren’t immigrants, they were taken here without their permission violently. “Should’ve known before I clicked on the video” why is that? Cause the speaker is black? I highly advise you rewatch the video. Especially the ending. Also, the way you mention that there were enslaved people here before colonization (actually you said the 1800s, which yes the first slaves in the states arrived in 1619???) arrived is peculiar to me, unless she stated that it had never happened here before that. If she didn’t say that, then it’s almost like you’re only saying that to deflect and not acknowledge the enslavement of black people in the states by saying that slavery happened here before😮 using the enslavement of one people to get angry at the descendants of another formerly enslaved group for literally just stating history is low.
@papercranes7230 you are the one who missed the point. What does black enslavement have to do with German and Irish immigration? Absolutely nothing but as usually someone found a way. The more relevant topic would have been to cover the enslavement of the Irish IF you felt the need to talk about slavery at all.. which is not necessary when covering a topic about German and Irish immigration. It is ridiculous that we can't acknowledge that many things existed and one does not diminish or discredit the other. Conflating them though is stupid and not helpful to anything. The only thing I am "angry" about is the loss of progress we are experiencing because people are incapable of critical thinking 🥴
The irish had been crossing the pond for over a millennium long before Columbus. The Irish were forced out of their homeland. Irish America along with other Irish in other places still hold their Irishness because of the their aspiration of one day returning to their homeland to a free Ireland. Many of the Irish had been forced out of Ireland as slaves back in the 15 and 1600s by the English sold to plantations in the Americas from Canada to Brazil and beyond. This would actually mean that the Irish had been enslaved long before the people's of Africa to the America's. Some of the Irish at a much later time were indentured along with full slaves of Irish people. So why is this not properly taught in the schools in America. The Irish were treated far worse than animals the African was actually treated better than the Irish mainly because of their wars against the English. Many of the Irish had died on route to the America's along with the Scottish who also rebelled against the English. The white slaves were forced to breed mate with African and other slaves in at making a much stronger and productive slave by the plantations owners and to yield more moneys from the slaves.
