Here in Chile we have similar sirens and fire-trucks. Most fire-stations tend to use European-specs trucks (specially in smaller towns and cities), while in Santiago (the capital of Chile), more and more companies now use American-specs vehicles
Here in Germany, the big trucks are often different. They can used to firefighting, for technical things, or for chemical emergencys. The most of them are designed for firefighting and technical emergency insets as well. The have paramadic stuff on it too.
Cars stopping and getting out of the way, cars not trying to follow you through red lights, pedestrians stopping and staying out of the way until everyone has gone by! I am jealous!
The small ones aren´t for medics. The car that came out of the small garage door was an ELW (Einsatzleitwagen) or battallion chief truck as they are called in the US.
EmergencyManiac - Czech Emergency Responses Snorkel wäre, abgesehen davon dass es auch ein spezifischer Markenname ist, ein gelenkarm an dem nur die Löschvorrichtung angebracht ist, ohne Korb, ohne parallele Leite usw; Ein TMF kann man stattdessen als Aerial Platform oder Telescopic Platform bezeichnen
EmergencyManiac - Czech Emergency Responses teilweise gibts schon von Seiten der Hersteller Bezeichnungen, die ich sage mal seitens ihm selbst international genutzt werden, und die länderspezifischen bezeichnungen auch schon regional unterschiedlich sind; So gibts im gleichen Atemzug die Bezeichnungen Telescopic Ladder und Hydraulic Platform
Yes, this units were on the way to a reported "smoke in a structure". But in Germany it is quite normal, that many units respond for example to an automatic fire alarm. In Germany we have only a few but large fire houses, as for example in Nuremberg: 5 Stations for 500.000 inhabitants. So these big stations have more units stationed there than american fire houses (Denver with 600.000 inhabitants has about 38 fire stations) - and when it comes to a fire alarm, in denver maybe 4 stations respond with only one vehicle, at a german station this 4 vehicles are all stationed in one house and they're responding together.
I know I'm a bit late. At least in Nuremberg (and I know a few other cities where it's the same) as the normal response to an fire alarm a whole fire brigade ("Löschzug" in german, consisting of 1 Command vehicle, 2 fire fighting vehicles and 1 Special vehicle, mostly a ladder) are send to the emergency. So this is quite normal.
Also best construction equipment; Liebherr is my favorite brand (Especially their mobile cranes), but Caterpillar equipment is also very good. I live in the US, but I think it is interesting how we have special firefighting vehicles, but Europe's are just mostly regular trucks with a fire truck body on it.
Indeed! I'd also like it, if some US-Engines would have martin (air-)horns but also some german trucks with federal Q or Wail and Yelp... A bit more diversity!
Oh ja, das war eine knappe Angelegenheit... Ein Fahrzeug in München hatte ich mal gefilmt, das setzte mit der Haspel hinten wirklich auf... Passiert, wenns eilig ist und das Terrain nicht das beste... Danke :-)
Hat bei 1:43 in Münster die Ampelschaltung versagt, oder war das an dem Tag mehr als normaler Berufsverkehr? Normalerweise sind ja die beiden Ampeln auf dem Ring, jeweils die nächste von jeder Wachen-Ausfahrt, von der Wache steuerbar und mit weißem "F" als Lichtzeichen versehen. Würde mich mal interessieren, kenne ich so gar nicht :(
In USA the firefighters are fast responsive, obviously that most of them are running to the trucks half naked and with half hamburguer in one hand and one Coca Cola in the other. American fire truck are tough because here we don't have (almos in NewJersey) such beautiful roads, intead here the roads look like freshly bombed are plenty of huge potholes.
Guck dir mal die Münchner Fahrzeuge an... Alle einheitliches Design. Ottobrunn hat ihr eigenes und zudem ist diese FF für eine städtische Abteilung auch relativ groß geraten. Ottobrunn ist mit über 20.000 Einwohnern eine selbstständige Kommune, weshalb die Landeshauptstadt München dort als Behörde (also als Betreiber des Brandschutzes) nicht zuständig sein kann/darf. Kurzum: Ja, die FF Ottobrunn ist eine völlig normale, selbstständige Feuerwehr ;-)
+Alexander „RangerStorz“ van Storz In Germany we have "engines" only for fire response, "squads" or "rescue-engines" for technical and fire response and Rescue Units only for technical response...
Here in America, an Engine is a straight pumper, meaning it only has tools specifically designed to combat the fire, where as a 'Squad' depending on what city, it's an Ambulance, or a Combination Rescue/Pumper meaning it can do both vehicle extrications and fire attack.
Naja, alle hier zu sehenden Videos wurden von zwei Personen gemacht, und NRW liegt nun mal nicht in unserer Reichweite... Daher haben wir auch keine Videos aus diesen Städten...
In Germany and many other european countrys only blue lights are permitted for emergency vehicles responding. The reason for it arises in history... In my opinion blue light is also much better visible than red lights, cause the backlights and traffic lights are also red, but blue doesn't occur in traffic. Some police cars in the U.S. and for example the Portland FD also uses blue lights on their vehicles...
Blue is much more visible than red especially at night. I notice most USA Fire Dept's have red, amber & white lights, but so does every other vehicle on the road including tow trucks, if you are on a motorway at night, red, amber & white lights just blend in with all the hundreds of other vehicles whereas Blue can be seen from a long way off, Have a look at some of the Helsinki or Stockholm Fire Dept vehicles on You Tube
Historically blue light was choosen for its bad visibility before WWII (expecting air raids). This was a very dark cobalt blue and has not much to do with modern blue lights. Yet red light is better visible than blue and still better visible is orange. Blue light has the advantage, that it is used for nothing else in traffic than alarm vehicles.
Myls Menn In den USA haben die (wenns mal ganz hoch kommt) eine DL (Drehleiter) die ohne Korb ist), dann ein Löschfahrzeug mit geringfügiger Ausrüstung und an manchen Wachen eine Rüstgruppe, die einen Rüstwagen besetzt. Die Fahrzeuge da kommen größtenteils noch aus den 90ern. Zudem haben die keine NEF. Grundsätzlich haben die also: *LF, RW, DL und RTW und KdW (Kommandowagen)*. Wir haben unter anderem *LF, HLF, TLF, DLKs, TM, S-RTW, I-RTW, normale RTW, NEFs, NAW, ABC-Erkundungsfahrzeuge, ABC-Abrollbehälter, PA-Fahrzeuge, RW, ELW, hochmoderne RTH sowie ITH, diverse Abrollbehälter, etc...*
Yeah, maybe you're right in some points, but our system here in Germany is working very good, maybe better than in the U.S.. Wail, Rumbler and a rolling christmas tree is of course nice to have but also unnecessary.
Firescue112 Well, Im not saying a Christmas tree is needed, even though why its needed out here is because of distracted drivers, but having bold, clear, and sharp emergency led lights like the ones with the light blue is fine, but honestly, the dark blue isn't very eye catching.
Well yes, I agree - but you have to mention, that the new rigs mostly are equipped with those "light blue" LED-Lights. The older vehicles with the lights with the rotating mirror are gradually put out of service. For example: Look at this rig: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yjQK-ji67t4.html This is a newer one with great lighting...!
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2bfamKSCpqc.html In case of serious emergency we order all power our rescue and fire departements are available. Older vehicles are also in use as super modern features as fe the turbo extinguisher one and two, based on the fire brigade of BASF SE. There is no discussion about lights or sirenes. In Germany everyone knows: Seeing "blue lights" means: EMERGENCY! Leave the road as far as you can in order to make freeway to the rescues.
Stephen Grenoble it's not like that some departments didn't try to use wail and yelp sirens, but there's one aspect which is a bit diificult: NONE of the wail and yelp sirens, including special versions like the Rumbler or the Q, fullfill the acoustic requirements according to the German regulations. Of course, some still use them, but if they are involved in a traffic accident, they have absolutely no coverage from the insurance
Do you really believe, that a federal Q could solve this situation better? I don't. There are many videos from germany with ignorant drivers, but much more from the US. I like the Q but I also love our martin horn :)
Firescue112 oh I'm a firm believer in the power of the Q because of how the sound travels. I prefer an electronic siren in conjunction with it but on our engine the electronic one doesn't work. The airhorn works miracles too. Just about everyone last night moved over for the call we were responding to. Couple good winds on the Q and a good couple tugs on the airhorns and people move
Zach Novosad concerning the Q: at the same measuring distance, a FS Q is exactly as loud as a set of martin horn 2297 GM sirens. Relatively few fire departments over here have an airhorn at all, and most of the efw which do have one, have a version which is hardly any louder than the martin hron ... that makes sense, since the martin horn siren basicly is a constantly running, alternating airhorn
They are not that big because many german cities have very narrow streets. They also dont carry that much water because we have hydrants everywhere so its not necessary so carry huge amounts on the truck. Whats really bad are the sirens and the lighting
Maurice Reuter I know what you mean. But you notice the blue LEDs on german firetrucks very good. In videos it really seems a little lame, but if ya' see them in real life they are very contrasty and bright.
***** I am german ^_^ The blue LEDs are really good, but I live in a rather small town and the fire trucks in my area are mostly old and dont have LEDs. But most trucks have LEDs today, do you are right.
***** although the average truck is more compact than let's say an American fire truck, but that's due to some historic road and city layout which you simply don't have in the US. And apart from that, we have both the world's smallest as well as the world's largest Aeriall in service, so I guess we cover a pretty nice range of the size of the trucks ...
***** Yes, efficiency. Something the US of A still struggles with. Sorry mate, but we have a sense for our environment, we do not burn 25,000 gallons/100 miles and we also have higher costs for fuel.^^
MAN and Mercadies fire trucks look and sound weak as hell. No water capacity, small frames and engines, less equipped, and when it comes to emergency lights and siren just horrible. I'm sure the fire fighters are good but your apparatus is just embarrassing. American fire trucks are the envy of any fire fighter world wide.
Ted yellowstone 1. The US. Sirens & Lights look spastic and awful ( in MY opinion ) 2. Less equipped. WTF?! Shall they get a bazooka or maybe a nice fridge or a TV? They got all they need, I'm sure about that. 3. We can get water like every 50 Meters due to hydrants next to the road and even (public-) buildings are connected to the water system.
Ted yellowstone Be sure, we are as well equipped as we need, but yeah maybe our Trucks are a bit weaker ;-) But they are so small because the old Citys have narrow streets. Any questions? I think I could answer them :D Greetings from Saxony (Germany)
Ted yellowstone let me assure you: if we had to ride American fire trucks here in the city, we would be jealous upon those which have European apparatus and make it to the scene ... because there's no chance an American size fire truck gets to the scene in a 1000 to 2000 year old historic city center like it's the case in my city. it would be way more embarrassing to have big ass truck standing right in front of the historic city center and you can't get it inside, to the scene, just because it's too large, has a too large turning circle etc. No water capacity? No! They have their small water tank, as since we don't just operate with more flow, but with less flow and higher pressure, we get along with it very good Small frames? Yes, because that's exactly what you see in an ancient city center: a compact truck less equipped? In fact: no! Sounds odd to many Americans, but the average Engine here carries more equipment than one in the US does, simply due to a better space usage concept emergency lights and sirens - that's not sth Mercedes or MAN is to "blame"; but anyway, we get through traffic with this amount of lights. Apart from that, there are also plenty European fire trucks which can easily keep up with the American ones, both concerning lights setup (60+ LED lights) as well as the sirens (wail, yelp, Rumbler, Q, airhorn, whatever you can imagine, ...)
+Ted yellowstone we don't need big water tanks, we have a working water grid and electric grid. this is quiet normal in the developed word, but you couldn't know that little murrican :)
maybe the trucks are less equipped but there for you have two main - kinds of trucks. one kind for technical assistance and one for fire extinguishing fires. there are also trucks, that equipped with equipment for both parts and also every firedepartment has 'personalised' trucks for their needs.