German pilots handed British wings after training at RAF base 

Is it? Germany has not been a friend to Britain for many years.

Germany has been a close ally to Britain for many years. I was lucky to spend 10 years there in the Army and was made to feel very welcome. Ignore the trolls, they probably are still living at home with mummy.

@@alexanderbalcombe4207Yes. It is.

@@BBob1 being made to feel welcome when you were there years ago isn’t really an evidential point is it? Germany has jeopardised European security once again with its stance on Ukraine and failed to meet its NATO spending commitments for decades. They were content to let their British friends do the heavy lifting while they feathered their own nests. The former German chancellor is now a multi millionaire on the payroll of the Russian state energy firm. They have done their utmost to take control of the EU and replace London as Europe’s financial centre. Let’s keep to the facts instead of resorting to childish insults shall we?

@@alexanderbalcombe4207 Clown

My grandfather was a German WW I fighter ace and he immensely respected his British adversaries 🇬🇧🇩🇪

NATO working together to train each other.

Couldn't have put it better myself

absolutely! greetings from Munich

100% Apart from football. we must remain enemys on the pitch!

Hello Lennie, I think your grandfather would be amazed and could hardly believe it. But it's all the nicer to see that it's normal among friends. I have always considered Britain a friend and close partner. It was certainly different after the Second World War, which I understand, but over the decades another new generation has come. I was in the Bundeswehr in 1982-83 and we trained a lot with the British Army back then. And even then it was friendly. What I mean is you can no longer compare Germany today and 1945. By the way, it's wonderful to see that our British friends are getting excellent training.

I think it's great that we operate together, but I'm mystified how this help is not recognised at an EU level, where the UK is treated as a hostile antagonist that needs to be brought to heel.@@Toddel1234567

I very much doubt your grandfather would be happy; both of mine, (artillery and Liverpool Scottish regiments in WW1) and my parents (mum worked in the main telephone exchange in Liverpool and was blitzed many times, dad joined the RAF and became a bomber pilot) absolutely hated the Germans and said the only good German was a dead German. Thankfully times change and I myself joined the RAF and served in Germany and very much enjoyed being there. Two world wars and the Holocaust can't be forgiven or forgotten, but quite rightfully the sins of the father cannot be visited upon the son.

german military does not have a funding problem, also never had. germany did miss the 2% nato goal but still spend a good 60 billion annually on the bundeswehr ( and that prior to the ukraine war, besides the extra budget of 100 billion we also increased the regular annual budget) this is about as much as france payed for their army, however their capabilities are far from each other. The money is lost mostly in a overcomplicated buerocratic process but for sure also other places. The most important thing is not to just throw money at the bundeswehr but analyze whats happening with all this money and then start rebuilding.

@@fuubysomewhat disingenuous! Germany has missed its nato funding obligations for decades

@@robertpatrick3350 how i that disingenous? i literally wrote germany did miss the 2% nato goal myself. thinking the german army has less tanks than switzerland because of missing the 2% is mistaken though, bundeswehr still had a strong funding through the years, so simply beefing up the budget further wont do much to the bundeswehr. there needs to be a fundamental reform.

Because you portrayed that they missed but the levels were large and sufficient…. They have missed by circa 50% for decades. The funding level is not strong and has not been strong for decades.

i think you are missing my point. Germany needs to beef up their bundeswehr spending, we agree on that. looking at the state of the army though is not explainable, even with the pre ukraine war spending. The core of the problem does lie a lot deeper. @@robertpatrick3350

Why they harder ?

A joint training base with the RN, Army and RAF.

@@Ben-zs5vd wildcat navy not on the same level

There is zero difference at this point in training. OCU would be where they diverge.

DId you watch the video? This is just being able to fly a helicopter in general. It's the same for all branches.

Hmm not sure why that's relevant but ok..

Yeh hell of a difference between a Captain and Lt Col!!

I was under the impression that Oberleutnant was the SS equivalent rank?!!!

​@DavidJones-wx4im No. Most ranks with the SS had the word "fuhrer" in them.

No, it is the badge of the “Heeresflieger“ (army pilot). The sword looks bit similiar to the KSK. But it is different. Also the KSK has not a marron beret, but a sand one. And they never wear it in public.

KSK = Kommando Spezialkräfte (special forces command in english)

The KSK has marron berets as well. We do not have sand barets in the Bundeswehr.

Was that at a time when you were flying, Graham?

@@opel123 Back in the day I was always flying when possible! But not when I was at Shrewsbury.

In terms of aircrew training, things haven't been so great in recent years, since MFTS came in

@@Orbital_Inclination Sad to hear that. I'm not certain what MFTS means: multi functional training system perhaps?

@@Pincer88 Military Flying Training System, a contracted flying training system meant to be far more cost effective than the previous military system, but in reality providing less hours over a longer training time.

@@Orbital_Inclination I see. Sounds like the ailment many PPP programs suffer from. Seen that a lot of that as a civil servant and MPA researcher. I'm guessing more focus has been on the use of simulators and less on actual flying. I cannot judge if that's a bad thing for delivering pilots. I can only relate from my own experience as a former infantry anti-tank gunner (M-47 Dragon ATGW), when I say that there was a tremendous difference between firing the simulator and the genuine missile. The sim was great in getting all the drills right after hours and days on end of repetition, but being exposed to the elements after intense PT and then trying to hit a moving target was very challenging. I guess that is similar for actual flying, where G-forces and the risk of crashing if one messes up are all too real. I hope that doesn't result in frontline squadrons having to pick up the effect and losing either pilots that cannot step up or priceless training hours that should have been spent on combat training. As for PPP - here in the Netherlands politicians get all enthused as soon as they hear the words "cost savings" and forget about value for money. Taxpayers and the people having to deliver the good or service usually end up on the short end of the straw. As do those who write a damning evaluation of that practice. Shareholders on the other hand... Ah well, that's what you get when not paying enough attention during economics class.

Obviously not for a 🛎 End like you they don't

Interesting comment, obviously you have an IQ in single figures. How many yrs did you serve in the British Army? I did 17.@@BBob1

@@johnallen7807 17 Years? What, did they kick you out for being useless. They do tend to get rid of the dead wood now.

Yep, the rotor goes round the opposite way.

Yes. In der Bundeswehr it is allowed.

Yes we really need to get more updates about that. I’m really worried.

We've already seen what happens when you fixate on quotas in the RAF.

Wot? No German black lesbian pilots?

The German forces use traditional ranks the same as we do, in fact they recently added two which were around in ww1 and before then, which the 1934-1945 Luftwaffe never used based on KORPORAL, as Gefreite are not Corporals but grades of Private. All the German ranks of the air force and army are basically the same, the navy having the same badges but different rank titles ie matrosengefreite

Because they can. It's called partner Programm. Sending soldiers into other countries to be trained is quite common in the military

@@Wojtek1003 Yes i understand that, but in the late 90/ early 2000s Germany couldnt get rid of us fast enough from our military bases there...And the debacle of brexit saw germany pushing from a stricter deal against us.....

@@catlee8064 well it is a different kind of story trying to get rid of the aftermath from the WW ll. They want to get rid of the Americans as well. And with Brexit, yes that's more political. They "wanted" the Brexit, now they have to dig themselfes out from this pile.

Echo Charlie 135

I doubt it.that’s what they fought for peace and reconciliation.

No, on the contrary, I think that they would all give a sigh of relief, that after all the warning the two nations find, not only peace, but comradeship.

@victorhodgson8767 dude. It was a joke. Im sure they will be happy about it but take the joke

My dad was a Spitfire pilot in WW2, I think he would have been interested rather than horrified!

@@sampurnell463 well, it was a joke in poor taste, ( I’m old enough to remember looking up at the wee black puffs of ack ack in the sky as the then enemy flew over) that was then, but now,I think we can be thankful that we in the European country’s can coexist in peace ✌️

Who? Gustav Klimt?

Did you know he would have been open for an alliance? He liked the brits.

Well they've been on our side for 80+ years now, so keep up.

I'm not sure what rank he was. A few Marines go on to be pilots, but I think he more likely was aircrew. I know in the first Gulf War the Navy had a few Marines as gunners on their helicopters.

He’s just quailed as a crewman and will go on to an RN Merlin Course.

@@stevebarlow3154only RM Officers can now be Pilots, the guys on Merlin are qualified crewmen

@@shaunmcmillan6791 I think in the past senior NCOs could train as pilots.

@@stevebarlow3154yes we could but in 1995 it was decided we should come under the FAA which meant no more NCO Pilots. At one point we actually had Cpl Pilots.

Why is it a bad look? We are helping to train our NATO allies, it’s a great indicator of future interoperability.

How so? There is British and German Eurofighter Typhoon Pilots side by side in the same camp in Estonia, on the border of Russia. They are eating, sleeping and if worse comes to worse fighting side by side. It's not like our British infantry have never had help from other nations. We are allies after all.

@@hithere3035 germans are not to be trusted. History has proven this and history will prove it again.

So long as we keep beating them on the football pitch, nobody cares anymore

@@matthewwalker5430 😂😂😂😂

A joint army with smaller countries might be possible. But Uk and France wouldnt even dream of giving the germans veto power over their adventures, who are notoriously fickle with allowing robust mission profiles.

You spelt NATO wrong