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German Precision: Präzipress 120mm Reloading Press Overview by Turban CNC 

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Here it is- perhaps the world's more precise reloading press! It's the Heavy Präzipress 120mm from Turban CNC! In this video I unbox this press, mount it using an Inline Fabrication Ultramount, and do some precision tests. The results are AMAZING!
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@angelzipp
@angelzipp 11 месяцев назад
When I bought a Prazipress 120 (given the price and awaiting time) I thought I've exaggerated. Owned a Lyman, until that moment. Few years later, I still believe it's one of the best investments I've ever made.
@fisher7897
@fisher7897 5 лет назад
I really appreciate the time you take to review and upload. Can't wait for the 14 press review!
@Evaed100
@Evaed100 5 лет назад
Definitely an awesome press indeed! Can't wait to see it in your lineup coming soon!
@guitarrocker0991
@guitarrocker0991 5 лет назад
This is the only high quality video I've been able to find on this press since you teased it in an earlier video.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
I wish I could show people this press in person- the video and pictures don't quite give you the full experience! :)
@guitarrocker0991
@guitarrocker0991 5 лет назад
@@Ultimatereloader I can imagine. It looks amazing. I feel like I don't even have a gun that would benefit from reloading with such precision.
@pieyed1302
@pieyed1302 5 лет назад
Wow! What a masterpiece of engineering. Thanks for showing it off.
@G5Hohn
@G5Hohn 4 года назад
Engineer, Machinist, and reloading freak-- Gavin is THE MAN.
@darrenmclaughlin8971
@darrenmclaughlin8971 3 года назад
I bought this press based on Gavin's review, agree with his assessment, very difficult to fault the Prazipress
@donaldmoser7732
@donaldmoser7732 2 года назад
Where did you buy it?
@mr.william1913
@mr.william1913 5 лет назад
I'm very excited about your head to head testing with all these presses. I'm actually waiting to watch it before I go and buy my first kit. Big thumbs up!!
@rodleger7132
@rodleger7132 9 месяцев назад
Impressive results to say the least! Looking forward to the other videos with this press.
@ozzelot1983
@ozzelot1983 8 месяцев назад
I would also look forward for more videos, but his one and only video is already 4 years old 😕
@orygun9mm761
@orygun9mm761 5 лет назад
So I told my wife it's cheaper than a Nightforrce scope and I'd be saving money.......it didn't go well.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Haha
@samsungtv4u
@samsungtv4u 5 лет назад
Lol that just made me tear up...
@bassin7503ify
@bassin7503ify 5 лет назад
hahaha!!!
@davidharrah3703
@davidharrah3703 5 лет назад
Worthy effort!
@tomharrell1954
@tomharrell1954 5 лет назад
Orygun9mm never tell wives what anything related to ballistics or arms costs. It’s is in areas they are able to comprehend.
@Don.E.63
@Don.E.63 4 года назад
Wow very nice press, German quality has always been great, nice demo on a super press.
@Welder6131
@Welder6131 5 лет назад
Interesting press....at this point i'll stick to my MEC as it produces similar results. I agree that quality dies are a must along with good prep etiquette. Thank you for sharing.
@ozzelot1983
@ozzelot1983 8 месяцев назад
just got my präzipress 150 today - veryyyyyyy nice
@trasco86
@trasco86 5 лет назад
Hi Gavin! Had the chance to inspect this press first hand. An absolute masterpiece of equipment! Im now the proud owner. As you say, its unlike anything else out there. Are you planning to get hands on with some high-end dies like the German Triebel dies anytime soon? Thanks for all the great work, keep em coming.
@Boon202
@Boon202 5 лет назад
G, I have the 140 heavy and love the results. I met the Turbans at the IWA last March, very nice guys. They also had a demo of their new progressive that uses Dillon parts. I just love their products, super high quality.
@ryc3rz
@ryc3rz 5 лет назад
Progressive? Wow... so that's probably that "top secret" thing Gavin was talking about. can't wait to see it.
@ryc3rz
@ryc3rz 5 лет назад
Can you say a bit more about this progressive? Was it more like XL650 or more like 1050?
@Boon202
@Boon202 5 лет назад
@@ryc3rz I don't think it's top secret since they allowed me to take pics, make a short vid and even sent me updated info and pics of it to share with other US reloaders. maybe G is referring to something else.
@Boon202
@Boon202 5 лет назад
​@@ryc3rz here are some basic information: - 5 stations fully usable - quick change headplate system - quick change shellholder system - all gliding surfaces hardened and finely machined - all moving parts are supported by industrial-grade bearings - compatible with DillonXL650 conversion kits and accesories - 7/8 -14 UNF thread in all headplate stations - compatible to Mark7 Autodrive
@derstedi1481
@derstedi1481 Год назад
Great review! Thanks a lot and thumbs up!
@MotivatedMetalworks
@MotivatedMetalworks 5 лет назад
What the hell did you do to your drill chuck? That thing's got it's own orbit.
@cammo7014
@cammo7014 5 лет назад
I went straight to comments to see if someone else picked tht up😆 He needs to give it a good wack from the bottum upwards😮😮
@jinbyun7854
@jinbyun7854 3 года назад
I’d like to know too.
@rpap5322
@rpap5322 3 года назад
its a swivel chuck
@artdc6264
@artdc6264 2 года назад
Haha! Searched comments for "wobble." Should have used "orbit."
@shawn-stuff
@shawn-stuff 4 месяца назад
Thx for the effort on the review
@yuriys.6352
@yuriys.6352 5 лет назад
Very interesting! Thanks for the review!!
@betopatino5114
@betopatino5114 5 лет назад
Didn't know it was so complicated to set up. Good thing you had machining tools to set the press.
@leadbullets4life
@leadbullets4life 4 года назад
when you said 120mm reloading press i thought it would load 120mm shells.
@topgunjoeicdbko
@topgunjoeicdbko 5 лет назад
I love the enthusiasm!!!
@PulverizerA
@PulverizerA 5 лет назад
I'd like to see a comparative loading session with the low tech/low precision American "chevy" press using the same dies and giving runout results. Then a range session comparing the same loadings from both. Then we can see if the results/exclusive factor would be worth the price difference for ourselves. It'll never happen though.
@zunrue1
@zunrue1 4 года назад
Watch the 14 press shootout, should give you the information you were looking for.
@Dwayne7834
@Dwayne7834 5 лет назад
Great looking press. Good video
@haylspa
@haylspa 3 года назад
Wow that is impressive!!! I WANT ONE!!! Nice intro guy!!
@edd1e22
@edd1e22 5 лет назад
Were you able to resolve the flex issue with the inline fabrication mount? I use a Dillon 650 and this would be an issue on the upstroke when seating primers
@fabiosantos8591
@fabiosantos8591 5 лет назад
Mr. Peter Kolovos, you dont have to apologize lol. For rifle ammo i like to use MAC Marksman press. And MEC press cost only $ 200 . Thanks for the information.
@gdog4323
@gdog4323 5 лет назад
Is it more precise to measure the run out so close to the end of the cartridge on the concentricity tool?
@steverowe2943
@steverowe2943 5 лет назад
Nice review and looking forward to seeing more on this press. I doubt I will ever own one since I have been unable to wear out the Forster Coax. I was wondering about your thoughts on annealing. I have been eyeing the AMP unit but it also comes at a high price point that I can't currently justify for my use. Thanks.
@edd1e22
@edd1e22 5 лет назад
"Look how large the diameter of this thing....I like smooth knobs personally I find that they have the least amount of chaffing...."
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
haha
@g-mc4507
@g-mc4507 5 лет назад
Cam over on the next level.
@AlfJDale
@AlfJDale 4 года назад
Hi! You need to stiffen top plate or fundament(or both) on your bench. Can see the press dipping on bench👌
@zazkariafrady9152
@zazkariafrady9152 5 лет назад
Amazing press. I cant wait for your single stage shootout.
@halfdollar86
@halfdollar86 5 лет назад
Do you have wear on your headspace gauge from turning it to settle the brass? I do and was just wondering if you worry about that. What all do you use your headspace gauges for?
@jensdavidsen4557
@jensdavidsen4557 5 лет назад
Can't wait to see the single stage lineup! So many people say that once you get a progressive press you'll never use single stage again...strongly disagree. I have both and 7yrs later I still love my Lee Classic Cast Breech Lock single stage...and I love my Lee Pro 1000. I just use the Pro 1000 for semi-auto pistol cartridges and single stage for rifle and large pistol (44mag and 45Colt).
@mattpie595
@mattpie595 5 лет назад
I tried to buy the140mm last night for bmg but could not decipher how to pay. It kept asking for my bank account number. How about visa?
@TXPhred1
@TXPhred1 3 года назад
Do you still,load with your PraziPress? Have you compared it to the Area 419 press? What is the accepted point of contact on the bullet for measuring concentricity? Close to the case neck or further away?
@halfdollar86
@halfdollar86 5 лет назад
Love learning new stuff. Always have respected German manufacturing.
@Sprachlos
@Sprachlos 5 лет назад
Richtig! Wir können nur Qualitativ hochwertig.
@halfdollar86
@halfdollar86 5 лет назад
I wish RU-vid had a translate button like Facebook has. It isn’t always perfect but it makes it where you can interact with foreign languages. I use it in a long range group I’m in.
@luzianwasescha6056
@luzianwasescha6056 5 лет назад
Jörg Reusch ja. Deswegen gibts ja so Viele pfusch am bau videos...
@ironbomb6753
@ironbomb6753 5 лет назад
@@halfdollar86 he said "Right on bro! This is a quality bitchin press, us Germans know about building cool stuff!!! "
@halfdollar86
@halfdollar86 5 лет назад
Ironbomb thanks
@albertthesecond210
@albertthesecond210 3 года назад
I did discover that the dust cover offered by Mec for their metallic reloader fits my 120 perfectly. The KMS^2 LED strip for the Forster Co-Ax fits too! Most my dies (Redding, Forster, Whidden, etc.) fit. I have discovered that my Redding 30-06 FL sizer would not screw in to the proper (i.e., useful) depth. This die was purchase 10-15 years ago. I purchased a new Redding die and it fits well. Last night I discovered my Redding 223 FL sizer could not be fitted "by hand" but with a modest amount of force from the Brownell's die tool I was in business. I am wondering about Thread Class mis-match
@austexhunting4755
@austexhunting4755 5 лет назад
My wife said, "you don't need that, and there's no way you'll win it anyway". We can't let her win.
@hollowpoint45acp
@hollowpoint45acp 3 года назад
Wives like that are easy to nail
@josh10mm
@josh10mm 5 лет назад
can't wait to see show down
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
[Clint Eastwood music in background]
@DimaProk
@DimaProk 5 лет назад
You had me at linear ball bearings!
@tobiastorsi
@tobiastorsi 5 лет назад
@gavintoobe how much total runout is acceptable in your opinion?
@heeroyuy4561
@heeroyuy4561 5 лет назад
You're right I want one!
@daviddale3624
@daviddale3624 5 лет назад
Absolutely amazing.
@junmadrid2010
@junmadrid2010 4 года назад
Does Prazi have a smaller press and with lower cost ? For pistol and decapping....
@danmacdonald1291
@danmacdonald1291 5 лет назад
Bad ass workshop you have there, maybe a short video on your gear and what you do with it would be sweet ;)
@charlesgiles4447
@charlesgiles4447 Год назад
Gavin which do you like better this press or the zero press from Area 419
@lovelandstorm8394
@lovelandstorm8394 4 года назад
Does anyone know if we can use the Hornady LNL bushing system with this press?
@CHIBA280CRV
@CHIBA280CRV Год назад
Hey Gavin , in your opinion if you had to choose one over the other would you pick the German unit or the area 419 zero unit ? Looking to purchase one , and respect your opinion.. Thanks let me know please 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@AvocaSingleTrack
@AvocaSingleTrack 4 года назад
I have the PM 935 TV . It's a great mill with a small footprint. What's up will your drill chuck ? Lotta runout there... or wasn't seated fully ???
@matthewwheeler9086
@matthewwheeler9086 5 лет назад
How does this compare to the Lenzi? I am noticing that a lot of this is very similar.
@junmadrid2010
@junmadrid2010 5 лет назад
How much does the press cost ? Is it better than the Hornady Iron Press or the RCBS Ammomaster ?
@o2wow
@o2wow 5 лет назад
Very interesting press, it would be interesting to see how the performance of the Präzipress press compares to arbor presses/dies.
@madman432000
@madman432000 5 лет назад
Anyone else notice the die moving when he sizes the case? What's with that? Is that flex in the base that he talked about? I checked out the Turban website and the standard 105mm press is a 2 column press, not 3 like this one, and will handle up to 338 Lapua. Essentially the same as an O frame press, Rockchucker etc.
@pvchatt
@pvchatt 5 лет назад
How does it compared to the new Franklin M-press? I thought it looked similar
@matoktm690
@matoktm690 4 года назад
Hi! can you measure me about the press? Thickness of all bars, height, width ... He wants to make it at home thank you!
@42TRGSako
@42TRGSako 5 лет назад
I've been waiting for this review! Can't wait to see more videos with this press. Also is that a Kennedy toolbox in the background?
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Yes! Multiple Kennedy toolboxes :)
@xAeschylusx
@xAeschylusx 3 года назад
What is the significance of bullet runout, and how exactly is that a function of the press and not the die? I’ve always done 3 presses while seating bullets, but that’s more to get consistent COL rather than for runout. Always chalked up inconsistencies in COL as being from the slop in the shell holder and how the bullet was sitting in it rather than the press
@jw3256
@jw3256 5 лет назад
WOW, simply amazing Gavin great quick review Go big or Go home some would say or buy once cry once. However, for me, I have a Forster Co-Ax, therefore, I don't see me kicking it off the reloading bench for this unit. I would be looking at the Annealing Made Perfect for $1000 as another piece of reloading equipment for before I slapped down that much cash for another press. Alternatively, I could use the funds toward another rifle as well and or scope. I am very interested in head to head comparison of the Co-Ax just for grins and giggles. Another point I see is that inserting and removing cases is weird since the position of the rods you are continuously moving your head up/down and over to see around the rods. My Forster is open to the front the German unit is open to the rear which seems odd. Anyway as always thanks for the info
@nosh1753
@nosh1753 2 года назад
finally something really great for the reloader... that we dont have to buy from overseas (which means wait for delivery, spare parts etc.) get some dies from TRIEBEL as well folks... they´re worth the money.. just like the präzipress ! ...greez from Austria !
@timclark5769
@timclark5769 4 года назад
Which Ultramount did you use for the 120mm?
@AF-O6
@AF-O6 5 лет назад
Do you expect Inline or anyone else to offer the custom fastening hardware you fabricated? Would you consider publishing a sketch of what you built? I’m also one who will pay more for the right “feel” of a fine tool. I don’t expect others to understand, but even if it did have no impact on the finished product, the feel makes it more enjoyable to me. To each his own.
@rodsaddler622
@rodsaddler622 2 года назад
Gavin, how does the Prazipress compare to the Talon?
@justinberwick2827
@justinberwick2827 5 лет назад
Really looking forward to the single stage review. It will be very informative. Perhaps there will also be a head to head comparison of some progressive presses in the near future.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Yes, I do plan to do the progressives as well, hopefully this year...
@justinberwick2827
@justinberwick2827 5 лет назад
That's great news. I would like to get one this year.
@iamsomebodynobody
@iamsomebodynobody 3 года назад
Not sure how easy to mount the turban press on the reloading bench directly instead of inline fabrication platform. Do the mounting holes at unusual location and in different size comparing to other mainstream brands like Hornady, RCBS, Lee etc.?
@Sagittariustoo
@Sagittariustoo 4 года назад
How does this press compare to the old but huge Rock Crusher press ?
@rpap5322
@rpap5322 3 года назад
How about priming the empty cases you will have to c-clamp the top plate down to seat the primer, or is there a hand prime tool that come with the Mercedes ......
@DWproductions07
@DWproductions07 5 лет назад
I can’t find my comment to reply on but I don’t think it’s the QC plate. I have an inline QC and it doesn’t move like that I’d be curious to see how it performed if the ultramount was lagged in to joists below the bench top.
@ThomasLundinTheHoppa
@ThomasLundinTheHoppa 5 лет назад
How does this compare to the Foster Co-Ax?
@tjarmand
@tjarmand 5 лет назад
damn man really nice press!!!!! love german stuff!!
@SABjork
@SABjork 5 лет назад
Freaking Awesome....I want one now.
@cs_yt
@cs_yt 5 лет назад
I can't wait for the single press combined test, since I'm about to add a single precision press. I'd love to spring "für die Präzipress", but I'm not sure the shooter/re-loader over here can rack the benefits to justify the cost.
@tomharrell1954
@tomharrell1954 5 лет назад
The numbers on the necks could be from the case thickness variations unless you turned the necks
@robertqueberg4612
@robertqueberg4612 2 года назад
Hello Gavin, A nice review of an obviously well designed tool. Your reservations about the Hornady Lock N Load bushings introducing an error are in my opinion, based on nearly twenty-five years of using them on several different calibers, is that they(your concerns) are unnecessary and misplaced. As I stated, these are my opinions, and no animals, other than woodchucks, coyotes, and prairie dogs were injured in this testing. I loaded around 3000 rounds of 22-250 for three rifles, that will all produce 1/4” or better five shot groups @ 100 yds. from Pac-Nor barrels. Another rifle in 25-06 AI will produce.3-.5” groups until the barrel needs to be set back. One of the miss placed concerns is any radial movement of the press ram, or dies. It is easier to allow some radial movement, to allow the case and bullet to find their common center axis. If you go to any sanctioned national best rest competition (talk about picky), and you will see a large percentage of top tier competitors using the arbor press type die set up in order to get the best case bullet alignment possible. During a conversation with Todd Kindler at one of the Super Shoots, he mentioned placing a thin o-ring under the die lock ring to achieve the same benefits.
@JeromeHernandezincali
@JeromeHernandezincali 4 года назад
Don't you think the run-out is mostly because of the Forster? I get same result with my old rock chucker.
@zoidelux
@zoidelux 5 лет назад
When you say +/- .001, do you also mean .002 total runout? Or are you saying .001 total runout?
@pacman10182
@pacman10182 5 лет назад
"I like smooth knobs" ~Gavin 2019
@pacman10182
@pacman10182 5 лет назад
"least amount of chafing" stop it, I'm dying!
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Haha! Keep your mind out of the gutter :)
@pacman10182
@pacman10182 5 лет назад
@@Ultimatereloader my mind is right where it belongs
@garyc5245
@garyc5245 2 года назад
I'm guessing the RCBS shell holders had no issue popping into place?
@tmalonso
@tmalonso 5 лет назад
any chance you'll do a head to head with this press and your forster co-ax? i'd love to see if the difference is truly enough to justify nearly tripling the price :)
@josephpepicelli4859
@josephpepicelli4859 3 года назад
What was the total cost with shipping and delivery in US dollars? I want one!
@hosseinhayati9820
@hosseinhayati9820 5 лет назад
Can make something like this for pressing ballbearing og shaft!
@aaronmcleanmclean2245
@aaronmcleanmclean2245 5 лет назад
This is way better than the forster co ax press. I am getting +or- 3-4 on my sizing or headspace. As for runout on Conictricaty I dont know , I dont have a Conictricaty gauge.
@uMalice
@uMalice 5 лет назад
At the bottom of the stroke, it appears to move the die and head assembly down. I thought that maybe this is merely compression on the mount or bench but upon additional viewing the die is moving. Please let me know what you think of this.
@jp7233
@jp7233 5 лет назад
The flex is in the bench. At the bottom of the stroke the complete mount moves as the bench flexes. Check out Gavins other videos, you will see the bench flex with ALL of his presses. I changed my bench top to a 3/4 ply top with a 40mm solid oak kitcken worktop screwed to it. No movement under any pressure on any of my presses. I use a T-rail like Gavin's but the front rail is kept approx. 70mm back from the front edge of the bench. As solid as Thompsons Graving Dock. Regards. JP. Think I'm gonna have one of these.....
@Silverone858lol
@Silverone858lol 5 лет назад
Yes I've seen his bench flex a bit. I had to brace my LLM with a steel tube to the floor.
@madman432000
@madman432000 5 лет назад
@@jp7233 I had to look again and yes it seems the mount plate is flexing. I didn't think I liked that mounting system he was using and that confirms why. But I don't change to different presses so I don't need anything like that.
@jimbasler303
@jimbasler303 3 месяца назад
This is not for newbies like me. Very nice.
@savagereloader6699
@savagereloader6699 5 лет назад
Like L44 120mm reloading press?
@preacherbiggin
@preacherbiggin 5 лет назад
Insane quality! Great content as usual sir! Keep up the great work! #followingclosely
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Thanks man!
@godfreypay-yac8011
@godfreypay-yac8011 2 года назад
where can buy that
@robertswick7654
@robertswick7654 4 года назад
Where can I buy this press?
@icebmwpower
@icebmwpower 5 лет назад
New subscriber here. . Great review, thank you for doing all this to keep us informed. . JUST ONE QUESTION... Do you prefer the Heavy Präzipress 120mm over the Co-Ax and over the MEC? 🤔 IMO ... The “Heavy Präzipress 120mm” is one in a million one of a kind press and the price is not an exception. 😂
@harrri
@harrri 5 лет назад
I just wonder why upper parts bounces upward on 15:34 ?
@ENZORifleWorks
@ENZORifleWorks 3 года назад
Whats the price point for the press?
@mattpie595
@mattpie595 5 лет назад
approximately how much would shipping import taxes etc add to to the cost of the press? Gotta get one.
@rogerveth9658
@rogerveth9658 3 года назад
The 120 press goes for $996 that includes all shipping and handling costs to Colorado. I assume shipping will be close to other states.
@jasonb4350
@jasonb4350 5 лет назад
Question, I have been reloading for a long time and enjoy your videos but why does the run out matter so much being by the time you chamber that round it could have been bumped around and the run out could have changed and most likely has changed by the time you fired it.
@mattpie595
@mattpie595 5 лет назад
Jason B .004 runout is 1 moa in any direction it lands in the chamber.
@echosreloadingchamber7306
@echosreloadingchamber7306 5 лет назад
Where's the update? LOL I'm very interested my uncle owns a Mercedes-Benz repair shop in Winter Park Florida. I'm excited about the German linear bearings, Germans make the best bearings just ask a skateboarder LOL. How can I get my hands on one of these units, and how much do they cost Euro or American dollar? Thanks Gavin
@mechathanos5444
@mechathanos5444 4 года назад
After reloading. are they better than factory made
@hectorgonzalez7416
@hectorgonzalez7416 4 года назад
how can I order one
@halfdollar86
@halfdollar86 5 лет назад
I sometimes when I have runout over 2 thou I’ll run my ammo back through the seating die and turn the case and do it again and it really helps.
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Interesting...
@halfdollar86
@halfdollar86 5 лет назад
gavintoobe give it a try. It helps a lot.
@Klocaine237
@Klocaine237 5 лет назад
I like geeking out with you on your channel. 🤪👍👍👍👍👍
@Ultimatereloader
@Ultimatereloader 5 лет назад
Thanks, glad to have you as a subscriber!
@mikeadams3785
@mikeadams3785 5 лет назад
Great intro
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