Hey, don’t feel bad about the result of the war, that was a terrible situation, and it worked out for the best in the end, and now the two nations are friendly. It’s just one of those things that happens when a madman takes power
I don’t feel bad about the result as I said I am grateful about the result. I feel bad that the Germans were outclassed in the situation, that is totally different 😊
@@Chrisb.reacts Yeah, nobody likes to lose, even if it's not them personally, even if it's for the best. The thing is, I don't see it as the Germans getting outclassed, just the Nazis. They might have been running the country, but not everybody was on board with their bs. Germany as a whole is a formidable opponent, a valuable ally, and a good friend.
@@Chrisb.reacts If it makes you feel any better tons of Americans are German blood so you Germans might have been out classed by other Germanic and ethnic Germans lol.
Nothing is impossible. Mathematically improbable.... sure! Impossible??? You can't prove a negative quantity. It just means no one has done it..... Yet!
I really enjoyed The Fat Electrician's "Biggest Logistical Flex Of All Time - Berlin Airlift" It is a feel good story on how the West and the people of Germany came together to help the people of West Berlin after WWII.
To add to this, a number of years later (don’t remember the exact timeframe) the city of Chicago reached out to the company that had built the type 9-c sub to purchase parts and information on how to repair it as they wanted to open it to the public to see but it was quite banged up. The company that made it not only sold them the parts but they even sent their expert mechanics to assist in making the repairs because they couldn’t bear to see it being off in anything less then perfect fresh out of the factory condition.
@@raymurray3401 I'd heard of that but the first time I saw that, it had been worded to where people thought it was a joke. Something about the company not wanting any repairs to be 'sub' standard.
Basically as highly skilled engineers and mechanics it was a matter of pride in their craftsmanship and they couldn’t bare the thought of something they poured their blood sweat and tears into building to be displayed in anything less then perfect condition.
One story he didn't get into was about getting the sub ready for display. Due to the Navy testing and examining (or looting) the sub, a lot of parts were damaged or missing for one reason or another. In this state the museum wasn't comfortable presenting the sub, so they reached out to the original companies in Germany that built the sub and components and asked if they could help. Every single one of them donated all the parts they needed. To loosely paraphrase one letter they received from one of these companies: "We don't like that you have our u-boat, but we want it to be presentable."
That makes perfect sense. Professionals tend to take a lot of pride in their work, and I imagine many of the engineers in those companies would consider that sub the only remnant of their greatest project. At an individual level, it would have been incredibly important to make sure their work was presented as well as possible to future generations.
Well, that wouldn't fit into his meme-ified narrative in which he turns logical decisions during wartime into emotional back-and-forths usually associated with school children (or internet culture). He had to make it about effective humiliation, and that would fly in the face of that.
That's awesome! Thanks for adding that info. I imagine at that point, non-Nazi's were in charge of almost all of Germany, and you can't blame them for wanting to be recognized for making top notch stuff, and offering to make it all right.
@@Yutani_Crayven - two questions... How many of Nic's videos have you actually watched and actually STUDIED? How many American servicemembers do you know?
You should check out how many German POWs actually had to be forced to go home after the war. They had been earning money and privileges working on farms and local construction trades and reported back to the POW camp every evening. Two of my fave videos of his are "The Great Seabee Train Robbery" and "The Flying Ginsu - A Missile Full of Swords"
My grandmother was a Young girl during WWII, and her father, who was generally too old to enlist (he would have been in his late 30's) worked at a cannery, and there were German POWs working there with him, and on Sundays, he'd invite some of them to his house for dinner. My grandmother said that one of the Germans said that he didn't want to go back after the war, but they sent him back anyways.
@@DJ_Bonebraker Yes there are a whole series of Pows in America, as qell as a Germans diary and many liked it here. It was only the hard core nazis who didn't. POWS were paid equally for work, had canteens in camp with beer candy and other goods, daily showers and 3 meals a day plus the farmers fed them too. THE AVERAGE POW put on 20 pounds. Some were able to send back money to Germany from wages they saved at the end of the war. We had about 480,000 POWS here, most German, some Italian, some Japanese. They all had to go home after the war but were allowed to apply to come here and many came back.The best thing was many took back a passion for freedom of speech
Similar with the Italian POWs here in the USA. And the Americans gave them radios and newspapers whereas the Germans holding Allied POWs did not, they did everything to keep news away from those people.
I was in the US Navy from 1985 to 1995 as an Operations Specialist ( radarman) . Thinking outside the parameters is an asset during unconventional situations .
My grandfather was born in germany in 1945 to a German mother and American father. I met oma twice as a child (long story with my grandfather disappearing for years and my mom finding him on Facebook) before she passed away. I need to get back together with my German blooded side I haven't talked to them in years.
Guten tag! I was in the US Army and lived in Oberspiesheim and Schweinfurt 1977-1980 with my wife and young son. The German people were wonderful, and Germany was beautiful! I enjoyed your reaction so very much. By the way, I met the owner of a gasthaus near Coburg and he was telling me about his service in the Heer during WWII. He was captured by the US in Africa and was shipped to a POW camp in Texas in the US. He said being a POW of the Americans was the greatest thing that happened to him. He was in charge of the POW kitchen and dining facility at the camp. When the war ended, he returned to Germany with the money he saved as a POW. In the village near Coburg he found and bought the damaged gasthaus, repaired it, and had learned as a POW the skills he needed to operate the gasthaus. We had a great time as two fellow soldaten, talking about the Afrika Korps and my Army unit. (My unit patrolled the border between East and West Germany along with our partners, the Bundesgrenzshutz. We were also prepared to fight the Soviet Army and defend our sector of West Germany if it came to that). He bought me a jaeger schnitzel dinner! Great people; great times!
I realize the Fat Electrician makes fun of the fact that there was a photographer on the team. But the photographer was THE most important member of the team doing THE most important work. The photographer was documenting everything about the sub. The team trying to prevent the sub from sinking was trying to buy time for the photographer to work. That they did their jobs so well supporting the photographer is why this is a crazy success story.
Exactly. Because they were able to salvage the sub, the Photographer seems unimportant. But you Sweet Summer Children fail to comprehend is that the MISSION was not to steal a sub. They were there to gather as much information as possible before the sub sank. It was only after they had accomplished their mission with time to spare and the Photographer with all his film cans were safely off the sub that they entertained the idea of "we could do this". It concerns me when heroism and quick thinking are portrayed as impulsive and reckless. I also loathe the Magical Thinking that has engulfed modern society. The belief that magically the boarding team all knew exactly what to do, not that they had been running drills for EVERY imaginable possibility they could encounter when they boarded, or that EVERY sailor not on the boarding team was doing bucket brigade drills in their sleep. It was the ridiculous amount of planning, preparation and practice that made the mission a success, . . . and adding a touch of American "I think we can, . . ." just took it to the next level.
anyone who's put in their service or have deployed or vet members in their family feels this on a cellular level. there's no time to think about "what YOU'RE gonna do". it's "this is what you have been drilled drilled drilled to do in such scenarios and you as a cog must work with the other cog sailors on your boat--think about whether or not you're a goner later."👍🏻💯
They were all equally important. Without every one of them, it would have been a failure, and they all would have died. None of them were more important than the other. So, although documentation is great, being able to bring said documentation back alive was the real challenge.
You are incorrect in your assumption that no one person was more important to the success of the mission. I realize you have been indoctrinated into the "participation award" foolishness, but you need to understand that the reason this mission was a ridiculous success is everyone involved knew The Photographer was the MOST important part of the team, . . . whoever happened to be holding the camera. Do you actually believe that EVERY member of each boarding team hadn't practiced with a camera? They KNEW that bad things could happen. The Photographer was not a person. The Photographer was a position on the team.
@@TheNewMode hey hey, we stole that sub fair and square. If anything they should be paying us a storage fee for housing it for them for this long 😂 Jkjk all love ❤❤
I knew a guy that was an Air Force officer stationed in Germany and they were invited to go on a intertube rafting day trip that went through the local city with their German counterparts. The two groups were issued with an equal number of intertubes that had a basket in the middle full of beers. The group who had the most unopened beers at the end if the river ride won (there was no prise for winning). The American Air Force guys paddled downstream and sent guys crawling up into the underside of road and pedestrian bridges to lay in wait for the German crews to drift underneath at which point the would drop from above, landing bext to the German's beer intertube and grab as many beers as possible and then bug out and regroup with his guys who had anchored themselves downstream. The side that won should now be obvious. Being an Army guy myself, I have to admit I was impressed.
America hates fascism, not Germans. It's important to distinguish between the two. The nazis were more similar to modern russia then modern Gemany. Ww2 was weird times. Enemies were allies, allies were enemies.
Fat E literally says this in a Podcast, the war only started when the Nazis and Soviets made a deal to split Poland and then they betrayed each other after.
Not really. Democrats are the ones who inspired much of what the Nazis did. Like how the Nazi racial laws were just copied from Democrat Jim Crow laws. The Germans just replace “Black” with “Jew”. However what you meant to say was: “Republicans hate fascism.” Since it’s Republicans who are the true heart, soul and spirit of America. Whereas Democrats are the evil people in America, most of whom shouldn’t be here in the first place and came illegally.
@@user-wc8fp4cx6cDon’t worry President Trump will take care of that 😉. I can’t wait to watch him throw Obama, Clinton and Biden in jail for treason 🙏 .
The US has more than its share of flubs. However, Fat Electrician is right on the notion of don't mess with our boats. So much policy in the US with regard to war revolves around who hits our boats. Obviously this is different as it is 'the origin story' of the US as a world leader.
So many damn ass whups have started over US boats getting touched, its not even funny... The damn US Navy was formed over the premise of pirates touching our boats
You understand the nuance of history. That's incredibly important and seems to be often forgotten today. We were ready to fight Japan to the very bitter end, but 80 years later we've built and incredible alliance with them, and with Germany. Germany is in NATO, and joined in 1955.. only 10 years after the end of the war. I highly recommend you watch The Fat Electrician - The Berlin Airlift. It made me incredibly proud of not only The UK and The US, but of the people of Germany.
Glad you enjoy TFE (The Fat Electrician). I understand the double edged sword of history...we are the product of our forefathers, not the sinners. We learned from them and moved on.
@@scotthill1600 I totally hear you and respect that viewpoint. the slight difference to me, with being a white guy in America vs being a German learning about WWII is that you still have a systematic advantage that other people don't have and it's not your fault, but it is a very real remnant of history. As a Black woman I do not see you as a villain at all my friend. So long as we learn from our history and fight to be better that's all anyone can really ask. I'm sorry if you feel vilified because that's not right, you're not a villain just because you're white, same as I'm not a villain just because I'm Black. ❤️ We each have our own value and unique strengths we bring to the world as people. Nothing but love and respect for you my friend.
@@Lina_unchained slight difference is your comment didn’t get censored/ deleted by yt like hundreds or thousands of my comments at this point. RU-vid is so beat
Love your channel Chris. I have visited U-505 in Chicago, BTW. As a WWII submarine warfare buff since my childhood, it was a blast. We have a semi-professional and amateur racetrack here in my home town, Owosso, Michigan that was a German POW camp back in WWII. When the ware ended, many German POW's and local families whose farms they had worked on separated in tears and stayed in touch for the rest of their lives after the war. Several of the Germans moved to the U.S. later. The U.S. and Britain commands were actually quite upset about the capture. We had already cracked both the German and Japanese naval codes and they were fearful the Germans would be tipped off if they knew a U-boat had been recovered--so a massive cover up (as described in the video) was done. The crews involved had actually practiced ramming and boarding a U-boat as a cowboy-style effort, had been told not to do anything so stupid after a lot of practicing, and then went and did it anyway. As an olive leaf from an American, the German submarines and torpedoes were the best in the world. The maximum diving depth of the Type-9 was far beyond anything American or Japanese subs could pull off. By war's send, nearly every U-boat sent on patrol was sunk--some in as little as 45 minutes after departing France. From what I know, the VAST majority of submariners were not hard-core, Nazi party members and served (overall) with honor. Final note, my dad was a B-25 bomber pilot in the Pacific and strafed and bombed ships for a living at that time. Wie gehts!
@@thorkagemob1297No they were not our brothers or cousins or anything like that until much later. At the time they were the enemy and the goal was to teach them a lesson, as Churchill said: “that they and the world shall never forget.”
@@blake7587 You need to learn a bit of history. There was a MASSIVE number of German Americans in America at the time. People that had ties and family in Germany at the time. They were a large reason why America didn't want to be in the war at the time. But when Pearl Harbor happened and America went to war, they fought just as hard for America as any other American.
@@captin3149 Trust me I know my history wayyy better than you might think 😂. My ancestors were among those German immigrants and they stopped speaking German and were appalled by what was going on. They didn’t view them as cousins and brothers. Again that happened after WW2.
Chris I Love You My Friend ❤. I hope someday you will come to America 🇺🇸. I Love and Care about you My Friend. 👍🇺🇸😉❤️❤️❤️❤️.The past is the past I hope and pray everyone can live in Peace ❤️❤️❤️
If you're going to react to more of The Fat Electrician, you need to see his video about the US Navy destroying half of Iran's Navy in 8 hours. It is a crazy story.
I just want to say as an American with a brother who lives in Germany, I am a big fan of yours and I love your channel. You are intelligent, curious and interesting to watch. Keep up the AMAZING work! As a big fan of the Fat Electrician I think you should watch "World War Tree" and "America Obliterates Half of Iran's Navy in 8 Hours". These are also some really great videos from him that I think you might like to see. ❤ Can't wait to see more reactions ❤
@15:41 "Serious?" Yep. We used a lot of captured German and Japanese ships (along with a bunch of decommissioned American ones) to do nuclear tests on in the late '40s and early '50s. Fun fact, the Admiral Hipper-class heavy cruiser Prinz Eugen (which once escorted the battleship Bismarck during its final mission in 1941) was part of the nuclear test shown in the video. It survived the nuclear blast, but was heavily irradiated. When it sprung several leaks, including a major oil leak, the ship was abandoned rather than repaired due to the hazardous radiation. It capsized off the coast of a small South Pacific atoll, where it still rests to this day. As for the oil leak? The U.S. Navy made a note to come back to the wreck and drain its fuel bunkers, but then basically forgot about it for 70 years. It wasn't until 2018 that someone remembered that this was still an issue, and a mission was sent to drain the oil out of it. The wreck still remains, however, because the steel hull is still too heavily radioactive to be salvaged safely.
@@darryltarr7603 look I know people who live in Chicago. So I know how bad it can be there. I'm not saying "it's a bad place" but I read and see enough to know I wouldn't stop anywhere near Chicago even if i was low on gas. The only bright side about Chicago is at least you're not California. I know some on from there and that place is another on of the worse places to be too.
I was in in the U-505 many times. I grew up outside of Chicago and went to the Museum of Science and Industry at least once a year when young. In 1987 I moved to a lake in North Carolina and it turned out that one of my new neighbors had been in the U.S. Navy in WWII and was one of the U.S. Navy members that was attached to the U-505 for it's bond tour drive.
I think most of the kids in the area went at least once to see it. It has become quite the tradition. There is some decent historical footage of them moving it from Lake Michigan to the Museum of Science and Industry. It puts it into perspective how small it actually is. For the 50 people on there, they didn't have much space.
My neighbors had a membership or something like that with the museum, and I went with them via the Chicago and South Shore from New Buffalo to visit the museum. This was before the sub pen replica was made, and it sat in the courtyard and it was connected with a tunnel. It's amazing how tight the spaces were in it, and the periscope was set up in the hallway so spectators could look through it. Part of the attraction was the film about how it was captured and salvaged.
The reason Submarines in WWII didn't just dive deeper to avoid being seen is because, at most, they could barely get down to about 230m under the surface of the water before having to worry about water pressure cracking the haul open. Even diving down as far as 100m would start wearing out the haul faster than needed, and to use torpedoes, they usually had to be in the range of about 9-13m under the water to actually hit a ship, the smaller the target or the less the keel stuck out under the water, the higher the U-boat had to be, sometimes they had to partially surface to ensure a hit. They also had to stay above water to charge the batteries for the ship with the diesel engines because batteries from that time didn't last long
@@JustMe-dc6ks Technically, they can reach 300m according to unclassified sources, meaning they most likely can go deeper, but between advancements in modern technology, including stuff all the way down to the paint color, and the fact that these submarines can not only reach these depths in minutes, instead of the hours it would take the average WWII submarine to reach these depths, and how long they can stay submerged, there's a huge difference. WWII submarines had a very short battery life, and needed to come up to refuel the batteries after a couple days at most, while modern Nuclear submarines can stay under the water for upwards of 100 days before they need more supplies like food.
I love the Fat Electrician. He is great at telling stories about the military. I am glad we won the war. I am also glad we are now allies rather than enemies. My ancestors are from Germany and I would like to one day visit Germany.
A few miles from the U-505, at the bottom of Lake Michigan, is another German sub, this one from the FIRST World War. In 1918, the Germans surrendered their navy and the US took several U-boats to tour US port cities to sell bonds to help pay for the war. One of these subs toured the Great Lakes and after the bonds were sold, it was sunk off of Chicago by the US Navy.
The taking of enemy ships as prizes is a long standing naval tradition. Since at the time, a state of war existed between the U.S., and, Germany, U-505 was captured as a war prize. She is still on display at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry. She's actually fully indoors now.
They dug out an underground dry dock for the sub and built special movers and cranes to lower the sub into it and then put a roof over it. There is video or a documentary showing them doing it.
It's the only surviving German U-Boat of its type because the terms of surrender was that Germany had to destroy or turn over all of its U-boat fleet to the allied nations. Since the USA had possession and ownership of U-505 it was not covered by the surrender documents. Allies had captured 5 other U boats by the end of the war (total of 6 captured) and all 6 were not covered by the surrender documents. There are currently 4 U-boats in museums and open for tours (including at least 1 in Germany) At least 2 of these had been sunk or scuttled during WW II and were raised and restored after the war. For many years the U-505 sat outside of the Museum of Science & Industry (I toured it several times there); and it only was about 25-30 years ago that they constructed its current indoor home and stopped the rusting and degradation. It's new home is very nice and I have toured it several times there. A slight correction: The USA Navy knew right away that they had captured an Enigma machine and current code books. Those were on the carrier quickly. The biggest scuttling issue was that there was a fairly large scuttling "flooding" cap on a pipe open to the sea (no valves) which had been removed to insure the submarine would flood and sink. Any explosive charges were secondary. Someone had to literally dive under water and find the cap and screw it on to stop the flooding. That was the main thing that stabilized the U-505. The Admiral had planned to capture a U boat for a while - which is why he had his boarding crews ready. He also took a huge gamble. His fleet was low on fuel - and he should have ignored the U-505 and headed to a port to refuel. By pursuing the U-505 he went below the amount of fuel the fleet needed to return to port. He would have been court-martialed if he had not captured the U-505 as the US Navy would have had to divert a refueling oilier to rescue his fleet. Once he had the U-505 in tow he messaged that he had captured the U-505 with critical intelligence information, had it in tow, and needed a refueling oilier to get it back to a US port. The US Navy promptly diverted an oilier for his fleet without question. After WWII most of the German Companies supplied spare parts and fittings to restore the U-505 as a number of things were removed for study by the US Military during the war. If anyone has a chance - visit the Chicago Museum of Science & Industry and tour the U-505. It's a great display and the historical film of the operation is amazing. Plan on spending at least most of a day in the rest of the museum. It is an amazing museum. One of the better ones I've ever been to related to Science and Industry (and manufactured goods). They also have a coal mine tour as well. In my youth the tour guides were all retired coal miners who could really tell you what it was like and the issues that occurred with the equipment and with underground mining. Nowadays is all people who likely have never seen a single working day in a real mine.
The Battle of the Atlantic was essentially won by the summer of 1943. When the U-505 was captured the Allies had enough surplus capacity that they could spare extra carriers to, instead escorting convoys, search out u-boats in the far reaches of the Atlantic.
If I recall correctly, often times hammocks for sleeping in Submarines - and this was common with German, American and just about anyone else before the larger nuclear subs came to exist (and I'm not talking about the first generation of Nuclear Subs, which were little bigger than their diesel/battery ancestors just a few years previous) - it was common practice to string up hammocks ANYWHERE there was room. Submariners sometimes even preferred sleeping in the torpedo rooms up forward because it was - outside of combat stations - the quietest part of the ship, far away from the diesel engines. Even Captains got little more than a dedicated bunkspace and a tiny office. They still don't. But there are dedicated bunk areas on the larger subs now. But often more than one crewman uses a single bunk. Hot-swapping between shifts. One guy finishes his sleep period, gets up to go back on station as the other guy is coming back for his sleep in the same bunk. Yeah - living on a sub is not exactly fun. But it is high prestige if you can hack it. I've been told it takes a certain type of mental discipline and self-control to do it.
@@logandarklighterI was lucky enough to talk to a US navy submariner recently at length, he wouldn’t give any definitive answers to some of the questions I was asking ab US capabilities but was basically nodding or shaking his head for a little bit, he answers a few questions w yes or no basically & that’s as specific as he’d get, which was nice. I was confident some of these stories I had heard were true but it’s nice to get them more or less confirmed to be easily possible & or done before / regularly. Honestly I won’t even get into specifics on that bc the info I had came from years of research & some was kinda hard to find & def not getting into what the US navy guy was saying, actually don’t wanna give any potential advantage to an adversary although if I Ik it, they probably already have known for a long time
I looked it up when he said it, yeah no... Here a few labels a sub might have (idk never served on one) power in german is leistung, off is aus, closed is geschlsse... open is offen, and on is an. The last 2 might be figured out without a translater but come on, closed and geschlsse have zero in common.
The Royal Navy had already captured U 570 on August 28, 1941, towed it to Iceland and commissioned it into the Royal Navy on September 19, 1941 as HMS Graph. U 570 was decommissioned in 1944 and scrapped in 1947. U 505 is now in the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago. This is why U 505 has the reputation of being the "only" submarine captured.
I turned 10 years old, just enough to understand the significance, when the U505 was hauled across Lake Shore Drive from Lake Michigan to my favorite museum, Science and Industry. This Museum was a short bus ride from my home on Chicago’s Southside. In fact, by the time I was 13, I and a couple of friends would visit the museum often, usually to pick up girls from other school’s field trips. Needless to say, the U505 was a huge draw of people from all over the country. For me and a few friends, it was a treasure trove playground, and we enjoyed the hell out of it.
WWII submarines were very limited on how deep they could go. Panic does not lead to good decision making. These men were not submarine trained and would not have been familiar enough with the systems on board to take time to try to figure out the language similarities.
There was a COMPLETELY fictional movie "U-571" loosely inspired by this story as well as the Royal Navy's capture of U-110. To be clear... U-505 was NOT the first time the USA had captured an Enigma machine, nor the first time one was captured on a U-boat. Enigma matierials had been captured far more times by thr UK than by the USA. Still, like this story, it's a fun take on quasi-historical events.
10:30 I’ve been binge watching your channel, as an American I had to weigh in on this.. This guy is funny and is talking things up for entertainment value. I find most Americans respect the war as it was, and have no ill will towards anything German. We have the upmost respect for Germany politically and civilly and understand that that was seperate generations. Much like how Americans had slaves, that left a bruise on our history, that was a seperate generation and are in the healing process as a nation now. Which seems to shift forward and backwards. But in this context a lot of us have some German blood (like me) or influence anyways. Love your channel man. Keep up the great work!
Well, as a German, the Berlin Airlift would probably be of interest. There's another related one he did on Post War Germany about the Berlin Wall. But that's probably a topic you already know plenty about. The Berlin Airlift, though, it pretty nice because it features the US, UK, and Germany working together in the post war to keep the people of Berlin fed when the Russians tried to starve them into submission.
Chris, check out videos about the 700 camps throughout the US where 425,000 Germans prisioners from WW II were kept. They kept SS prisoners separated from the German Army prisoners because they didn't get along. Many remained here after the war and married. Others returned from Germany to live herr after the war. Camp Ruston in Louisiana was one. There's also a diary of prisoner who escaped from a camp and lived here secretly the rest of his life. Canada also had German camps.
Yes, here in Iowa many German POWs were sent to work on farms and everybody knows you eat the best on a farm. Many Iowa farmers had German heritage so they could speak some German and connect with the culture of these young men.
I saw another video of yours and wanted to say Germans taught us Americans how to slow cook meat, which turned into amazing BBQ from Texas, St. Louis, etc. In fact my real last name is also from Germanic decent, in fact close to Siegfried. I understand your frustration, nobody wants to hear how they were bested, in any area. Germans are among the smartest people in the world, period. And the American "Can do" or "Let's go!" attitude I believe is also well known. We are human and not always correct or course, but I think perhaps "Bravado" can turn the tides as it were, in many situations. In fact over half our population is armed, however the media lies constantly, and almost all the crimes with those weapons are from inner city gangs, etc. And of course some mentally ill. But what few ever think of, is that China has the largest army ever created that I know of, I think over 2 Million strong. But I am over 50 and traveled most of America, and almost everyone I encounter has arms. But those good humans don't commit the crimes the news perpetuate. We have never been in a situation besides fighting England, that all those armed hame come forward. I think about the stats sometimes. Say 100 Million armed Americans. Then say only 20% would fight if they ever got upset enough. That is still a 20 million person (our woman can shoot well!) army! It is actually insane to think about. Even at 10%. Still, 10 million trained, armed (over a Trillion rounds), humans ready to go. I actually hate the thoughts of war, or harming anyone. But I am over 50, I know stuff can happen. In a relatively short time, America has become crazy powerful. And that is not a brag, most of us realize it is Crazy as well. Even with an EMP, the 100's of millions of firearm's won't stop working. Yet I feel safe. The few crazies are usually in big cities, and I don't live in one. My state is in the top 5 of all biggest states, and just smaller than Germany by a few hundred square miles. Forget Alaska where I grew up, and Texas, even Montana is larger than Germany. Which makes it amazing Germany was very close to taking over the world. Not to go into that, I am just saying. From food to the space race, Germans have helped America immensely! It is just a crazy world, but I enjoy your honesty. The same way you do not like hearing you had a U-Boat (short for underwater boat) taken over, we also do not like that Germany sank over 2,700 ships! We were not there, but I know how those statistics still kind of hurt. Yu seem cool, I have subscribed and hope you have learned something from my novel of a post, lol, and I hope you rise quickly and to see more videos from you, brother! ~ Kevin Venture
When first put on display in Chicago, the submarine itself was as-is, with makeshift repairs. When the museum board undertook a repair and refit program, they started making inquiries to German manufacturers about replacement parts. The companies were not only happy to assist, they provided the parts and some repair technicians for _free._ It would reflect badly on the manufacturers, or so they felt, if their product was seen by the general public in anything less than original, pristine condition! It also probably let them clear out some inventory that would otherwise never be used again.
When I was a kid, I remember them bringing the U505 across Lake Short Drive in Chicago to the Museum! I was one of the few that first got to go thought it when it opened to the public! They were selling pieces of it back then and for years! I wish now, I would have bought something because I don't think they have anything left now!
Great reaction!! All of his content is fantastic. You can't go wrong with any of his videos. But in the future make sure to play his ad reads and after he says Quack bang out there's normally some sort of outro that you don't want to miss out on
I've been inside of that sub. When I was 11 years old my friend Joe's dad took us to Chicago to see it. Joe's dad was a gunner's mate in WWII. I don't remember what kind of ship he was on. But it was important to him that we saw that. It was very cool. And maybe even a little overwhelming. At least for an 11 year old.
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Another great video Chris!! Loved it and it was so much fun!! My great grandmother always said that the German people she knew and her father knew, we’re good people, and honorable. In fact I spoke to my aunt and she said my great grandfather spoke German. But the children never picked it up.
Don't despair, Chris. I know they're not allowed to teach y'all this stuff in Germany anymore, but even though we ultimately won the war through our superior numbers and manufacturing capacity, your country definitely outclassed us and made us look stupid plenty of times along the way too. To this day, in almost every US Army tank school, few generals are more revered and studied than your nation's Erwin Rommell and Heinz Gudederian. Their tactical brilliance was the inspiration for much of what constitutes present day US military doctrine among armored units. In fact, our esteemed and celebrated Gen. George S. Patton developed his own winning strategy from reading Rommel & Guderian's pre-war publications outlining their pioneering new philosophies on using armored units as modern day cavalry to break through enemy positions, and continually race further into enemy territory without waiting on the infantry to catch up. And when it comes to strategy, planning, and deception, Erich Manstein is widely considered one of the 20th century's masters by Allied/NATO high command all across the West. So don't take the Fat Electrician's descriptions too personal. Your nation's military commanders equally (if not more so) outwitted us too!
U-571 is based on the capture of U-110, which was captured by the British. It portrays the Americans as being the ones who first got their hands on an enigma machine despite the fact we captured U-110 a full year before the US even entered the war and more than three years before the US got their own Enigma machine from U-505.
Yes, yes. We stole a Nazi submarine and it's "docked" at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry. I know because I went through it as a little 7-year-old. I didn't quite understand exactly what WWII was, but it was cool how they built something that was just my size! Seriously, it is tiny inside, very cramped quarters. Needless to say, in the ensuing years I have learned what Nazi were and they were the bad guys, but Germany has become one of the "good guys". YaY! Try to explain Geo-politics to a little 7-year-old. It still was confusing, but they sure made cool submarines!
US Navy's Unluckiest Ship With An Untouchable Crew - USS William D. Porter Here is another great boat related video. This one always makes me laugh, I swear it's like a plot to a cartoon! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RM5CSMkTJI4.html
9:17 you immediately saw the same thing I did. Saving that boat during combat was a VERY different task from doing what they did. What they did was suicidaly brave but it was POSSIBLE.
6:20 You said " Americans don't care about our lives we just do it." It's not that we don't care about our lives. We care about everyone's freedom. We are willing to lay our lives down to make sure Americans, and the rest of the world, stays free. Most of Europe would be controlled by the Nazi party right now if it wasn't for America during World War II. Have some respect.
The reason they didn't just go deeper is because submarines while definitely not "new" technology by that point (you can see examples of them dating back at least as far as the American Revolution and I think a bit further) they were still not very advanced and couldn't go anywhere near as deep as modern submarines can without imploding from the pressure at what is called "crush depth" basically they wanted to avoid what happened to the titan sub.
I live in Chicago, that is one of the most popular exhibits in the city. Everybody loves it. Moreover German manufactures are routinely on site fixing and or updating what needs to be updated in order to keep the sub in the best shape it can be for public exhibition. And they do so graciously and willingly. In fact the first time they were asked, they sent everything over for free because they were so proud that German engineering was on display. Moreover, the museum itself is based on a museum from Germany.
The ww2 German uboats had a maximum dive depth of only 50 meters. At that depth any plane could see them during the day in clear water. Modern Submarines can dive way deeper, but even still scientists and engineers are working to program satellites to see them underwater today.
Capture German soldiers were lucky if they ended up in the US . Many of them worked on farms & were paid for it & could buy things that the people of Europe could only dream of .
Love this and he is one of the few that tells the story really well. I used to tour the 505 every year on school trips to the Museum of Science and Industry in the 1970s. That was always a high point of the school year for me!
@2:25 the German sailors were taken as POWs, actually. Leaving them to die would have been considered cruel and unusual, and a violation of one of the few undisputed laws of the sea (render aid to folks lost at sea).
I suggest watching TFE's video on "The Last War Chief - Joe Medicine Crow". You'll learn some insight in not just the American military in WW2 but Native American culture too. This is absolutely a story deserving of a movie.
I was born and raised here in Chicago in 1960, and have lived here ever since. I've visited the Museum of Science and Industry (Chicago has the best museums in the country) many times, and have been on the tour of the U-505 each time. They even still have the enigma machine on display for viewing. I took my kids there several times to see it as well when they were growing up, and it is fantastic to be able to experience it. I strongly suggest you visit Chicago, have some great food and visit the sub (as well as the other great museums like the Art Institute). You'd have a great time!
I love any thing The Fat Electrician does, you might want to check out America's Secret underground cheese bunkers, or The Most Gangster Politician of all time, Cassius Clay.
Honestly as an American I'm really impressed with how great you are about this - there's a disproportionate amount of American bravado in this video, at the expense of Germany, and you're honest enough to point out that it's hard to listen to, but you're also honest about being glad that you don't live in a dictatorship. I'd just like to point out that virtually every American I know holds Germany in an extremely high regard, especially when it comes to things like engineering and food and culture. Nobody speaks ill of Germany in this country. Personally, I am so glad we're united now as freedom-loving democracies that stand up to autocratic bullies.
even if it's written in the same language these are not submarine sailors and even if they were US submariners all the controls, valves and what not are different and must be used in exact correct sequence.
The photographer is there for a real purpose. In case they can’t get things out, the Photographer is there to take pictures of as much actionable intelligence as possible.
One of my favorites by him is the one about Jake "McNasty" McNeal I'm glad you enjoyed this. I also think the one about Why the US Navy was founded is also fantastic. I can't remember the title but it was about the Barbary Pirates.
I love the germans they are a bunch of cool people. Sorry about that little spat we had 80 years ago but you know the deal Dont touch our boats and all that.
The photographer was there to get pictures of everything incase the sub couldn't be saved, so they'd at least have some record of how it was built. I've been through the U-505; it is unbelievably tiny and cramped inside. The sailors' bunks are only about 5 ft (1.5 m) long.
I’ve been in the U505 at least 6 times. I grew up in Chicagoland, and a frequent school field trip was to the Museum of Science and Industry. I remember back in the 60’s, when it was still outside. My Mom talked about seeing U505 arrive in Chicago. Huge crowds gathered to watch the sight.
We went and saw that sub when I was young, it was very cool and I hope at some point we'll visit family there and I can show it to my kids. I really enjoyed seeing the Deutsches Museum in Munchen in 1989 when we went to Europe. Sadly we could not go to Berlin as my father was still an USAF officer and not permitted to travel there or any of the Eastern Bloc countries at the time. But we really enjoyed Germany and I hope to return and show my kids someday. Tag!
Submarines can not submerge beyond tolerance. „Das Boot“ ansehen.. Es ist ein sehr guter Film. The Germans got outplayed by the GERMAN-Americans, Chris. Ich bin lutherisch erzogen worden. Ich ging mit den Kindern eines gefangenen Deutschen in die Kirche. Sie sind jetzt Amerikaner.
That was a war story without death and destruction...well, mostly...some damage and excitement anyway! Well done. For a war story it had sort-of a fairy tale ending.😄
Did he mention the composition of the American boarding party? One thing you have to remember is that many Americans are of German heritage and back in the 1940s a fair number still spoke German. I mean, if I were planning such an operation, I'd make sure at least some of my salvage crew knew German.
As far as I’ve heard, when the war ended and the US wanted to display 505 they also wanted to make repairs and bring it back up to as close to original condition as possible so straight up asked the manufacturers in Germany for help. Which the Germans provided what they needed and then some, cause if this Uboat was going to be shown off it was going to be in its best condition. So as much as this was a flex from us, it probably wouldn’t be displayed in such glory without aid from the Germans who were willing to help the US repair it :D (Also yes watch TFE’s video on the Berlin Airlift. Absolutely a feel good story as well as a massive flex from the combined forces of America, Britain and Germany)
I’m very thankful that after the second war America and Britain gave Germany and Japan the attention they deserved.. I love calling you all our allies. We may not always agree on everything but at the end of the day we’re all friends.
