Other videos will be more "very short", this one had a lot to cover! Hope you enjoy the different strategies I'll be offering. Again, not every single one will be viable for every single person, but I'll try my best to bring as many as possible so people have a good amount of choice going into future leagues!
I ran the retarded version of this strat. Bought bulk contracts from tft for 2c a piece and ran them regardless of the contract type with the main focus of doing them as fast as possible. The main upside to running lvl 69+ contracts is that u get reveals (which I personally didnt use) and have no issue with leveling. Also, you get more rogue markers which I sold week 1 for like 20-30K per 1ex. On avg it was like 1ex in markers every 30 contracts. I farmed HH week 1 with this strat. One caveat though... I LIKE heisting. It still drove me nearly insane just cause some of the NPCs (mainly Vinderi) are completely moronic. They get stuck, don't execute commands, keep fighting mobs, etc... Doin contracts over and over and over again for several days... Not advisable if you are not a super chill patient person and enjoy the mechanic. You might get burned out and start hating the game.
Just did one grand heist today got divergent vortex cast when damage taken and used the orb to change quality of determination to divergent. Not a bad for such a short time.
One thing I'm noticing is that a lot of your videos focus on League start. A lot of people, probably most, can't front load their time so need strats that work a week into or mid league. Seems streamers make bank at the beginning and never worry about farming again because snowballing their gains.
Haven't touched PoE this league, but your channel and your guides were my main source of improvement in the 2 previous leagues. Basically getting me from struggling for currency (
What i just never tought about is that: if i make a 2nd character only to do Heist, i can do the 4 labyrints and get into lvl95 only doing Heist... and never kill Kitava with that character?
You can as long as a character on that account has unlocked all the trials. Ive leveled to 95 on console never killing kitava just in heist and occasionally delve. The resistance bonus is really nice however apparently at higher levels you will still lose 10% exp for dying.
And none of them are saying where they got the idea from LMAO Edit: I'm the first to say there's no such thing as stealing builds really, it's ez for 2 content creators to have the same build idea... but this strategy... a year after Heist league... all of a sudden....
@@rubensfeitosa2202 i think the idea is to identify the new broken and use the heist money to buy everything cheap before prices exploded because of popularity
@@pathofmatth I think that if GGG hears about it they gonna take the delevel thing as an exploit and make the NPC not refresh the contracts if you use the book of regression.
@@mirek2845 we are already able to infinitely do quest contracts over and over, and that's still in the game after a few leagues and GGG seems fine with that. They are low lvl contracts, and like Matth said, you don't progress the atlas at all. It's something to do veeeery early in the league to maybe get a headstart on some of the meta-uniques, but after the first weekend you're behind everyone else in atlas progression and have to catch up, and just hope that you've made enough profit from doing all those contracts. Running these contracts for hours on end is also boring as hell...
@@Zookay m8, you're the second person that tells me that we are able to do quest contracts over and over, i knew that we couldn't but i went ingame anyway and tried, just to make sure, you can't do it, if you fail the quest contract it disappears, just like any other contract, it would be a huge exploit if we could just pick a lockpicking quest contract and print currency. also, u said that is only good in the beggining of the league but for people who farm heist having a way to get free reveal discounts is huge, u can have an alt and farm as many Gianna reveals as you want.
@@mirek2845 I thought that the idea behind being able to repeat quest contracts is that if you repeatedly fail one while completing all the others, eventually the only quest contract you will recieve from smugglers caches will be that one specific one, which you will recieve in addition to everything else you get from a cache every single time (as long as you fail it before opening another cache).
after many leagues of avoiding heist, i'm starting PC Pathfinder and i would feel remiss to not take advantage... here's to hoping I don't get burnt out after 2 contracts
Any pitfalls to using this strat with a second character in SSF, to farm reveals and markers for the first character? Thinking of using it to feed a replica farm. I imagine blueprints will end up being a bottle neck anyway but hopefully there's atlas passives for that...
Is blueprint farming strong for the duration of a league? I can’t start until day 2 and want to try and farm for a HH or mageblood over the first month.
How do i need to read the Cheatsheet? What does the white number mean between the Heist and NPC? Do i need to chose the lowest value or the highest value?
Due to the prophecy node changed into currency node, because prophecies are removed, would you change anything to this method? Like i think this method is even better now no?
I've not heisted since heist league and not much then. Is it worth doing heists as they come up in the campaign or just get to act 10 faster. Don't need to do green heists to unlock characters right?
No, you unlock Heist characters by taking specific characters to Heist. As for Heists themselves, they're quite decent source of exp but other than that they give jackshit during leveling so probably wanna hit A9 or A10 asap and then get on the gravy train
Im litterally doing this right now in SSF on a alt character. hit 71. buy the contracts, delevel and rebuy. usually i get the scouring without even having to touch my currency contracts.
the scouring orb came from your chest, leaving early (as u mentioned) will run you dry on coins but outside of that .. amazing strat. would've loved to see how much time an actual heist would have taken .. they're sometimes a bit .. annoying
The videos can be shorter if you do short intros. You can just say “this is about heist and how to farm it early on in league” or something to that effect, and then just get to the main content. Iwe don’t require 5 min intros Just a thought. Thanks
Are you joking about prophercies? You wont get anything from there, thats waste of your contract, Its better to open 2 small boxes than1 prophercy for sure! This is as bad as talismans or abbys.
I wonder if offerings will still be dropping from these low level heists. Due to not needing map trials anymore, offerings will be in lower supply and will have much higher market demand. Especially since they will only start dropping in yellow maps as well, if we can get them early from heist I can see its value skyrocketing
Not too sure about that. Maybe on day one but afterwards they will be like 1 or 2c. Demand will probably be lower cause everybody will just run this one trial instead of trying to brute force the last trial with offerings in your map device. Overall after day 1 those who are willing to pay for an offering to get their points faster did their uber lab and no one will buy them besides a few people running harvest.
Magic and rare don't increase chest drops, it affects drops from the enemies, which are mediocre anyways and reduces alert level. You don't need to reduce alert level for heists. You can transmute them, but it does make them more dangerous. Alching them is a waste of resources, and makes the contract much more dangerous. You absolutely should alch the grand heists though.
1- Can you do a few early pob options for this strat? nothing fancy just some can't-go-wrong stuff 2- If they nerf it in a way that the shop doesnt reset when you go down a level, only when you level up, it would still probably work, right? just doing a few of the "bad" contracts? thx
Good day Matth! I did a quick search of "Heist" in the 3.17 patchnotes, and I didn't see any changes to this mechanic whatsoever. But that was just a quick search on my end so I just wanted to verify: So is this strategy still viable in 3.17 league start scenario? Also, if you think that this is not viable anymore, do you have any alternative farming method to suggest? Thanks and stay awesome! Just wanted you to know as well that this guide helped me a lot during league start in 3.16!
Thing is, you are restricting yourself from bigger strategies, you don't have a way to immediately jump into a higher "tier" ones. Since you still lvl sub 70, no atlas progression, not even kitava if you choose to not do it?. And why reveals are so important if you arent going to use them in this strat? I think its just far better to focus on lex alira after leap froggin a bit, and with the first 2 maven passives you spam maps and you are going to be flooded by heist cachés. Or just buy in bulks from tft if you want to spam heists contracts. Also, next league we are probably going to have heist in ZANA. So, mapping whites - 2c + heists > these 67 random contracts, and you can progress overall in the game.
It's entirely for refreshing the stock of contracts and reveals. If your group is able to feed you enough contracts, and your build is good enough to go above lv67, then go for it. Just remember that if you're doing each one in 2ish minutes then you need 30 contracts an hour, which isnt a small number
Chaos recipe = selling an entire character set of items to vendors at level 60 or higher. That is, 2x 1H weapons or 1x 2H weapon, 2x rings, 1x amulet, chest, boots, gloves, belt, helmet, all of which are rare. If you do it identified, you only get 1 chaos, but unidentified gets you 2 chaos.
Ggg: you already crossed the line boy, nerfed the ability to buy contracts when you delevel your characters. On top of that increasing the amount of coins depending on the times you have done the same contracts.
@Jordy Willaert yea... 0 arguments after u fcked up with ur comment and now u talking about names in the internet, get out of my face kid :3 PS can't expect more from guy who can't read, using this boomer stuff in his msges and named Jordy, stay strong bro
Just get the quest contract of your choice and never complete them then you can run it as much as you want for the cost of 1 inventory slot and rouge marker travel cost.
@@mirek2845 Unless they changed it when you do a green quest contract and dont grab the heist target at the end you got to keep the contract to try again. But I havent done much heist since heist league so they could have changed that.
2 things matth 1- you do get neg resistances by act 6 cuz you've already killed kitava once, your video says otherwise when is not. 2- that scour you counted as part of the loots was from you trying to show the de leveling orb
You get -30 all res pen for each time you kill Kitava, if you don't kill act 10, you don't get -60, you get -30 total. And who cares about the scouring dude lmao that's not the point
No! bad advice... Heist mobs: very tanking very deadly - and this is n all or nothing farm - die with with your spoils after the alarm all gone! even a mirror - for new players i would say do not touch this as most current build mechs cant handle proper heist farming
Just play a shield charge cold totem build, 0 risk and moves around fast, or something like a raider TR, also perfectly adequate for this, tons of dodge. Deff not "bad advice" lmao unless you're just afking in the packs of monsters, it's extremely easy
Its not really a noob strategy though, and there are easy tanky builds for heist, sst glad or even poison pathfinder can be build tanky by that level and can still move fast.