Getting Good Recipe Data For Our 7/8 oz Lee Shotgun Slugs And Discussions 

Scott - Glad to help...Good shootin' to ya, Steve

I do a similar load but with a 12s3 and longshot. Very easy to get up to 1700 fps with that light slug

Kyle Fraga - Kyle, if you are casting the Lee slugs, they will give you 4-8" groups at 50 yards - average 5-6" groups. That is actually OK for deer and hog hunting if you stay inside 50 yards. But if you want to draw down and hit 'em just back of the eye or just at the back top of the shoulder or low shoulder (on hogs), you'll need 2-3" groups at 50 yards. The Russian or Italian slugs will give you that kind of accuracy. No slug that is to be put into standard trap wads will give you that reliable accuracy unless you have one of those isolated "magic barrels" out there. If you have a barrel that shoots that well with Lee slugs, never let that one go. I have shot the Lee slugs for many years - they are fun for 25 yard shooting, even target and recreational. But I've always told others that if you are hunting with slugs, just buy the factory slugs (they use factory only, bore riding slugs with mated proprietary wad systems designed to withstand the firing to yield accuracy and power). All the newer slug reloaders out there can bypass lesser performance and go directly to systems the rival the factory slugs - just get the Russian slug molds and collude with Russia..!! Happy Thanksgiving, Steve

FortuneCookie45LC do you think it’s ok to swap out the Cheddite hull/primer for Fiocchi hull/primer on the 7/8 slug 29 gr green dot load, with same lightning wad?

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I've seen a few! None were American made. but it usually needs to be a 3 if not a 4 piece mold to create the rifling without swaging. facebook.com/bulletmold/ or as-molds.com. They make the best molds ever. The New one is called the Foster but no rifling! I Still want to try it out with the Azot wads. MY A.S. Molds .729 Pellet Slug is awesome. I wish FC45LC would try it!!!! Most Factory Foster slugs I've miced are .729 also... hollow base expands to fill that extra millimeter in our .730 bores. Extremely accurate

@@Mav8887. - I have been shooting the Russian Paradox, Hydrant and I have the mold that AS calls the Sh-Sh slug - haven't cast it yet. The Russians make excellent shotgun slugs. The secret is the bore riding slugs. Sticking slugs into trap wads is a jerryrig at best, not really a consistent answer. The .729 bore riding pellet slug is intriguing as well, but my Paradox mold shoots into a big one hole group at 50 yards...it's everything I need in a slug, and I can do variants of it with the different pins. Continued good shootin' to ya, Steve

@@FortuneCookie45LC Hello FC, do you think a Russian slug (any brand, really) would fare well in a fully length rifled barrel? that's the only use I have left for my Lyman/Lee slugs: I can put them in a makeshift sabot to use the rifling in my 24" SX4.

@@FortuneCookie45LC where can I buy these Russian slug molds and integral wads?

I find the straight walled hulls work better with the Lee 7/8 Oz slug. Tapered holes tend to bulge when the slug is inserted.

Pauls Country - Yes, indeed...all these Russian and Italian designs have been around for decades. But here in America, all we shotgun reloaders had was smaller slugs designed to be put into trap wads (wads never designed for shooting slugs). The weakness of these systems were in the wads - the petals tend to strip off or the compression zones did not collapse reliably = causes slug deflection by gas blow by at the muzzle and therefore lesser accuracy. The US companies knew about the foreign designs, and produced bore riding designs for their factory loads including proprietary sabots so we had accurate and powerful factory ammo. But they never gave like designs for reloads, neither did they sell the factory components for reloaders to use. Now, we can get the molds from the Reloaders Network to do the accurate systems. Good shootin' to ya, Steve

@@FortuneCookie45LC great info you have on this topic, This may be of some interest , I noticed that the Lehigh Defender copper bullet in .355 65 grain is hollow somewhat like a foster slug design, I have been shooting these in my 226 in 357 sig in the Underwood factory round and have gotten great results, my question is do you think its hollow for stability or simply weight reduction or maybe to increase bearing surface? Have you any experience with these or the Penetrators?

Brent Parsons - I'm assuming that you are getting those 5-6" groups at 100 yds with the Lee slugs. If so, you have one of those "magic barrels". Never let that one go, Brent as most shotgun slug shooters are not getting that level of accuracy at 100 yds with the Lee slugs. Now with the Russian slugs though...we are getting that. Continued good shootin' to ya, Steve

Shawn C - The Reloaders Network is the source, but they are currently sold out of some of the Russian molds. Happy Thanksgiving, Steve

@Garden * I hope so also I have 8lb of powder ordered

Fudmottin - Actually, in the agricultural centers of the Central Valley of CA reside the conservative zones of the state. All the left are concentrated in the big urban cities of CA - LA, SF, Sacto, San Diego. Visalia is in the Valley - home of TAOFLEDERMAUS..!! Happy Thanksgiving, Steve

@@FortuneCookie45LC And to you too. I've seen a lot of States where the counties are like that with the "blue" ones being largely urban and the "red" ones being largely rural. I would say this is strong evidence for keeping the Electoral College. There is a movement out there to get rid of it so that every vote is "equal". The problem with that is the EC is one of the defining characteristics of a Republic.

@@Fudmottin I'm living in LA and as a gun owner it is never fun, i have to time myself taking my rifles to my truck so neighbors don't see and freak out, sucks

@@rammbostein I can only imagine. In PA we are fighting to keep what we have. This virus thing isn't helping. HR7517 is out there. It hasn't been killed yet. The lines are being blurred.

7/8 oz slug is equivalent to 7/8 oz shot…not 1 1/8.

@@jungleno. it's considered safe practice to swap slugs for shot so long as the slug is equal or lighter than the shot so as to not increase pressure. Using a 7/8 oz slug with 1 1/8th data reduces pressure.

Going to try that load.... longshot was the only powder available....how is the recoil at 30 grains???....I'm using a Remington 870 smooth bore barrel

bcm - no such luck...the 16 is just too little in demand. Custom mold might be the way to go...Best to ya, Steve

Put an over powder card to prevent the powder leak.

@@edg4980 Use a paper towel over powder wad, then push in the plastic wad.

8.3 gr Blue Dot

Especially the real Russian molds! .729 Pellet Slug!!! as-molds.com

Kenneth Bailey - Our factory Fosters aren't bad slugs. We can't buy those, neither can we cast them ourselves. All our home cast Fosters are intended to be put into trap wads= inconsistent jerryrigs - Factory Fosters are bore riders that have proprietary wad systems designed especially for their slugs = accuracy and power. The home cast Russian slugs are bore riders that have proprietary wads or we can screw attach the Russian slugs to wads = accuracy and power. Best to ya, Steve

FortuneCookie45LC I would suppose a rifled slug barrel might be the best way to go.

roland - The Reloaders Network - do a search on that and then go to the store. They are currently sold out on the Paradox and Hydrant slug molds, but they do have the Svarog mold and that is a good slug also...I have that one, but have not gotten around to casting it yet. Good castin' to ya, Steve